No puedo escribir acentos y eñes en consola
Aunque funcionaba bien en 2.2r2 potato, después de que se me ocurrió actualizar a woody ya no puedo usar eñes o acentos en la consola. En X funcionan bien, en less tampoco. De hecho hasta dselect se queja: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = es_ES, LANG=C are supported and installed on your system- perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C) ¿donde corrijo esto?. Gracias. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Fw: consulta
Erwin San Martín Lassalle wrote: Soy un usuario nuevo de debian, y al ingresar al sitio ftp a descargar las imagenes (.iso), hay 4 archivos... binary-i386-1.iso binary-i386-2.iso binary-i386-3.iso binary-i386-1_NONUS.iso mi consulta va: ¿es necesario descargar este archivo (binary-i386-1_NONUS.iso)? ¿si no lo descargo tendré problemas en la instalación? gracias de antemano Erwin San Martín L. No. solo si necesitas programas no permitidos en los EU (mas que nada de criptografia) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Dos monitores con Debian 2.1
Alvaro Alea wrote: BUENOS DIAS!!! Y entonces, va Jose Luis Trivino y dice ¿Re: Dos monitores con Debian 2.1? Ramiro Alba wrote: Hola a todos: La pregunta es si se pueden poner 2 monitores (con dos tarjetas gráficas) contra un mismo nodo y trabajar con dos sesiones independientes. Si esto es posible, ¿Alguien me puede dar información basada en su propia experiencia de como resulta esta solución (implementación, estabilidad, problemas, limitaciones, etc) en Debian 2.1 (slink). La única forma que conozco de hacer esto es usando una tarjeta gráfica normal (SVGA) y una hercules antigua (lo dificil será que encuentres una y su monitor adecuado). Con esta combinación hardware no deberías tener absolutamente ningún problema. Eso sí, preparate a cargar dos XServers. Yo tengo problemas con esa configuracion, ¿Tienes experiencia configurando eso? Personalmente no. Tengo la tarjeta Hercules, pero aún no he conseguido el monitor. Dije que no debería haber problemas porque lo he visto hacer en dos ocasiones y siempre me han dicho que era fácil. Yo mismo he cargado dos servidores X pero con el mismo monitor (no debe haber mucha diferencia, puesto quela salida del servidor X es indiferente de la gestión del teclado. Respecto al xdm, ahí si que no tengo ni idea. Lo que yo he visto hacer era cargar directamente los servidores. Algo así como llamar dos veces a startx. En cambio uno en modo texto y otro en modo grafico funciona sin muchos problemas, aunque como solo tengo un teclado, tampoco puedo hacer mucho. Pues lo que no se es como vas a conectar dos teclado al PC. Se supone que esta configuración lo que pretende es ver la salida de un programa por un monitor mientras lo controlas por el otro. Esto es lo que hacen muchos programadores de demos graficas (no se puede depurar una demo grafica que accede al vídeo a bajo nivel en el mismo monitor en que funciona). Saludos, -- - Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez Dept. Lenguajes y Ciencias de la Computación http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html - La medida de programar es programar sin medida
Re: borrar mail
Ramon Almeida wrote: buenas a todos. alguien me podria indicar como se pueden borrar de un servidor pop3,un rango completo de mail?.la opcion DELE,me los permite borrar uno a uno,pero son 9560 gracias de antemano -- | _ \ __ _ _ __ ___ ___ _ __ | |_) / _` | '_ ` _ \ / _ \| '_ \ | _ (_| | | | | | | (_) | | | | |_| \_\__,_|_| |_| |_|\___/|_| |_| -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null En la sección 'Java' de mi web: http://rgracia.n3.net/ puedes encontrar un sencillo ejemplo de aplicación escrita en java para conectar con servidores POP. Una de las opciones que tiene es la de borrar todos los mensajes del servidor mediante un bucle... Lo malo: al conectar te bajará automáticamente todos los mensajes ¡Uff! Lo bueno: puedes adaptar fácilmente el código para resolver tu problema (simplemente comentando algunas líneas) Un saludo, Ricardo --
Re: SE PUEDE ESCANEAR DESDE LINUX CON UNA HP OFFICEJET G95!!!
Hola Jaume, On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 10:56:51AM +0100, Jaume Sabater wrote: At 23:07 01/02/01 +0100, you wrote: Hola a todos, Hola Manel, como estás? Bien La G95 trae un Jetdirect para conectarla a la red. Este bicho es administrable via web (tiene un servidor web) desde Netscape. El Jetdirect ese es 10baseT o 100BaseT? Lleva un conector RJ45 y lo estoy usando en una red de 10 Mbits, el lunes te miro si soporta 100 Mbits LO MALO - El precio cien mil y pico De que pico estamos hablando? Comprada en tienda normal o en proveedores? Pricoinsa http://www.pricoinsa.es, activa el java es una página pesada (diseñada para el Explorer :-( La verdad, se agradece cuando la gente recomienda hardware... Porque si te fias de los vendedores o los fabricantes... cualquier cosilla es una maravilla, para ellos... Si, yo pienso lo mismo ;-) Ayer detecte problemas imprimiendo muchos megas desde NT, haciendole un ping -f SU_IP me pierde el 5% de los paquetes, no me parece normal... el lunes llamo a HP Saludos, -- - Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Powered (Debian 2.2 potato) kernel 2.2.17 GnuPG keyID: F9BC34B5 en certserver.pgp.com fingerprint: 2F60 43D5 A297 5458 9067 5A50 0029 9C8D F9BC 34B5 Mira mis chuletas de Linux en http://perso.wanadoo.es/manel3 - Mi petición de drivers para Linux es la nº 33126 (Pasate por http://www.libranet.com/petition.html ;-)
Re: SE PUEDE ESCANEAR DESDE LINUX CON UNA HP OFFICEJET G95!!!
Hola, On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:20:02PM -0600, Ing. Miguel Angel Ramirez F. wrote: Perdon... 100 mil y pico ¿QUÉ? Perdón, pesetas Saludos, -- - Manel Marin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Powered (Debian 2.2 potato) kernel 2.2.17 GnuPG keyID: F9BC34B5 en certserver.pgp.com fingerprint: 2F60 43D5 A297 5458 9067 5A50 0029 9C8D F9BC 34B5 Mira mis chuletas de Linux en http://perso.wanadoo.es/manel3 - Mi petición de drivers para Linux es la nº 33126 (Pasate por http://www.libranet.com/petition.html ;-)
setiathome
Nas. Hace tres días que no puedo conectar al server de SETI. Intenta conectar con shserver.ssl.berkeley.edu , hace una petición DNS y recibe un standard query response name error. Me saca el siguiente mensaje : Sending result - connecting to server. gethostbyname: No such file or directory //Esto me mosquea bastante. Can't connect to server; will retry in an hour. En la pagina de status dice que el server está up runnig Sabeis algo ? César.
Re: setiathome
Coordenadas temporales: Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 06:10:19PM + Sujeto: Cesar Comunicaba sobre: setiathome Hace tres días que no puedo conectar al server de SETI. Sending result - connecting to server. gethostbyname: No such file or directory //Esto me mosquea bastante. Can't connect to server; will retry in an hour. Sabeis algo ? Tienes que actualizar el software del 3.0 al 3.0.3 Una vez hagas esto, te borrará la unidad que ya habías procesado (es obsoleta para ellos) y te cogerá una nueva para procesarla. Coge el *.tar que te corresponda, descomprimero como root y copia los ejecutables nuevos en el lugar de los antiguos. (Yo los tengo en /usr/local/bin) Salu2 -- ---Llave pública vía E-mail. Asunto: Mandar clave PGP--- Debian 2.1 Slink + apt-get dist-upgrade = Debian 2.2 Potato This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. pgp8SaxVzSvtk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: No puedo escribir acentos y eñes en consola
Coordenadas temporales: Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 12:41:00AM -0600 Sujeto: Dr. Aldo Medina Comunicaba sobre: No puedo escribir acentos y eñes en consola Aunque funcionaba bien en 2.2r2 potato, después de que se me ocurrió actualizar a woody ya no puedo usar eñes o acentos en la consola. En X ¿donde corrijo esto?. Gracias. Descomenta de /etc/locale.gen los locales que quieras tener y luego haz locale-gen como root. Seguramente te solucione el problema... Salu2 -- ---Llave pública vía E-mail. Asunto: Mandar clave PGP--- Debian 2.1 Slink + apt-get dist-upgrade = Debian 2.2 Potato This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. pgpPPXNyvTQhs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Algo tipo getright y partitionmagic
El martes 30 de enero de 2001 a la(s) 09:18:25 +0100, Jaume Sabater contaba: En modo gráfico macuerdo de haber usado una cosa llamada nt, pero no se si está en debian... Está en un paquete llamado X downloader o Web downloader que yo personalmente encontré en Freshmeat. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Linux Registered User #87069 pgpHUJwKItzu3.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Despues de un pequeño susto me he downgradeado a stable, y quiero dejar el sistema limpio, presto y dispuesto para trabajar. Y ahora bienen las prisas... :-) Son varias cosas... El sistema es una 2.2.r0 upgradeada con apt, hata la r2 + security El sistema al arrancar me dice esto... PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio hda: ST38641A, ATA DISK drive hdb: CREATIVE CD5220, ATAPI CDROM drive hdc: ST32132A, ATA DISK drive hdd: SAMSUNG SCR-3232, ATAPI CDROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: ST38641A, 8207MB w/128kB Cache, CHS=1046/255/63 ***hdc: ST32132A, 2015MB w/120kB Cache, CHS=4095/16/63 ***hdb: ATAPI 52X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11 hdd: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 **scsi: fdomain Detection failed (no card) **NCR53c406a: no available ports found **sym53c416.c: Version 1.0.0 **Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card! **IBM MCA SCSI: No Microchannel-bus support present - Aborting. **megaraid: v107 (December 22, 1999) **aec671x_detect: **3w-: tw_findcards(): No cards found. **scsi : 0 hosts. **scsi : detected total. Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 hda10 hdc: [PTBL] [1023/64/63] hdc1 hdc5 En las dos primeras lineas comentadas, el 120kB no me cuadra, sabeis por que es??? Es mas lógico un 128, o a mi me parece... En las ultimas lineas conectadas el sistema parece que intenta localizar unos dispositivos SCSI que -lamentablemente- no tengo :-) ¿Cómo puedo quitar esta comprobacion?? No parece que mire por modulos scsi, sino que lo hace antes de cargar los modulos... Ya creo q para un sabado a esta hora es suficiente, pero volveré con mas _:-) El proximo día Exim y Glade, asin que prepararos... X-D Gracias por todo. Luisma
Re: No puedo escribir acentos y eñes en consola
Unikoke wrote: Coordenadas temporales: Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 12:41:00AM -0600 Sujeto: Dr. Aldo Medina Comunicaba sobre: No puedo escribir acentos y eñes en consola Aunque funcionaba bien en 2.2r2 potato, después de que se me ocurrió actualizar a woody ya no puedo usar eñes o acentos en la consola. En X ¿donde corrijo esto?. Gracias. Descomenta de /etc/locale.gen los locales que quieras tener y luego haz locale-gen como root. Seguramente te solucione el problema... Salu2 Gracias. Ya lo intenté pero no funcionó _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Upgrade de Potato
El vie, 02 de feb de 2001, a las 03:00:01 +0100, Jose C. García Sogo se expresó así: On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:30:22PM +0100, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote: On vie, feb 02, 2001 at 09:02:57 -0400, Valenzuela R, Victor wrote: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get clean También se puede hacer después del update, upgrade en vez de dist-upgrade (que es lo que he hecho yo). Lo que no he hecho es apt-get clean, me imagino que con eso borra los paquetes que te has bajado, verdad? Poniendo antes en /etc/apt/sources.list algo como: deb http://http.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debain.org/debian-non-US stable main contrib non-free # Esta solo si quieres que se te actualicen los últimos paquetes en los # que se han encontrado fallos. # Te dejaría algo así como una 2.2r2+ :-) deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free También podrías añadir líneas para que te actualize el GNOME de Helix Code, ahora Ximian: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main o el KDE2 para potato: deb http://ftp.eq.uc.pt/software/unix/Linux/debian-kde potato crypto main optional qt1apps Saludos. Pepe -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Upgrade de Potato
On dom, feb 04, 2001 at 02:27:01 +0100, José Pérez wrote: También se puede hacer después del update, upgrade en vez de dist-upgrade No es exáctamente lo mismo: upgrade actualiza a versiones más actuales, los paquetes que tienes ya instalados y eventualmente instalará otro nuevo que dependa de una acualización de uno que tengas o/y lo deinstalará del mismo modo; dist-upgrade hace lo anterior y además trata con un mayor cuidado dependencias cambiantes y los paquetes más importantes de la distribución. man apt-get lo aclara. (que es lo que he hecho yo). Lo que no he hecho es apt-get clean, me imagino que con eso borra los paquetes que te has bajado, verdad? Verdad. También podrías añadir líneas para que te actualize el GNOME de Helix Code, ahora Ximian: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main o el KDE2 para potato: deb http://ftp.eq.uc.pt/software/unix/Linux/debian-kde potato crypto main optional qt1apps También, también, ambas cosas las tengo yo en mi sources.list pero dado que se preguntó por actualización a Debian 2.2r2 indiqué las lineas necesarias para ello, Ximian GNOME y KDE no están en Potato. Saludos. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Encontro do Debian
Fernando Fraga e Silva - data Em relacaso a data, como o mes de Janeiro ja esta acabando, podemos marcar o encontro para o comeco de Marco. Por que so em Marco ?!?! Para que o pessola da lista se organize direito, para que nao fique tudo para a ultima hora e fique uma correria. Se por acaso vier alguem de fora da cidade de Sao Paulo tenha tempo para se organizar, tansporte e onde ficar. Segunda semana de Março de dia 5 (segunda) até o dia 11 (domingo). Eu voto por dia 10 (sábado). O que vcs. acham de um encontro diurno para começar ? 10 de Marco de 2001 !! Leiam o codigo fonte ! - Kevir repreende os colegas a quem deve dar assistencia tecnica Kevin Poulsen [ ]'s Cosmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackhour.com.br Hack Hour Inc.
Re: Mais uma da Info (v)Exame
Obrigado pelo seu ponto de vista. Gosto do Linux e não são pequenos probleminhas que irão me fazer desistir dele. []'s Eduardo Moraes -Mensagem original- De: Alexandre Pereira da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Data: Sábado, 3 de Fevereiro de 2001 01:08 Assunto: Re: Mais uma da Info (v)Exame Nao me considero um genio mas a minha primeira experiencia com linux foi logo no comeco na minha vida com informatica. Nao tive problemas. Levei meses para fazer tudo funcionar mas nao foi na facilidade de hoje em dia. Usei um slackware que peguei na internet com meu modem 14.4. Da para ver que a documentacao foi bastante centralizada para ate um ignorante em computadores conseguir instalar de primeira um slack escolhendo os pacotes corretos e tudo mais. Configurei todo o sistema na unha. A unica coisa que penei para fazer funcionar foi meu modem pnp. Na epoca o kernel nao tinha suporte a pnp como hoje em dia e tive que usar o isapnp. Sou programador (Dos/Ruindows) e estou tentando utilizar o Linux (montar um servidor SAMBA) porém esbarrei em alguns problemas que infelizmente barram o Linux frente a outros sistemas. A documentação é muito espalhada. Não existe um local onde posso tirar todas as dúvidas que tenho (nem prá Ruindows). As listas de discussao sao especializadas... Mas geralmente alguem ja fez o que voce fez. E claro que voce nao vai achar HOWTO de tudo. As duvidas precisam ser globais para isto. Tenho que concordar quando algumas pessoas dizem que o Linux AINDA não é para leigos. E desculpe quem vier me dizer que RPM -qualquer coisa é fácil, pois é só pegar a informação no man ou no raio que o parta, pois ainda falta união e uma padronização no Linux. Ninguem diz que isto é facil mas no caso do debian capt, dselect ou gnome-apt é... Para que vocês possam ter idéia, aprendí programação Clipper e Delphi sozinho (autodidata), assim como Xenix, Unix (fui usuário) e agora estou tentando aprender Linux (acho que não sou tão simplório assim), por isso me considero um usuário um pouco acima da média, porém tenho problemas com o Linux que me deixam de cabelo em pé. Comprei o Conectiva 4.2 e o 5.0 Server c/a documentação impressa, pois acho um porre ter que utilizar o computador para ler documentação (sou meio antiquado...), comprei também um livro de comandos dos Linux (man impresso), 1 só de configuração de servidores e um ainda do RH 5,0 (diga-se de passagem o melhor LIVRO de todos os que consegui) e ainda acho tremendamente difícil configurar todas as máquinas de minha rede (temos 3 rede, sendo 1 c/4 máquinas entre 586, Pentium 166MMX, K6 e K6II, outra rede c/13 máquinas que nem tento descrever... e outra c/4 máquinas). Para instalar o Ruindows, eu simplesmente coloco os disquetes que são necessários, porém não tenho que informar taxa de refresh do monitor, sincronismo vertical e etc. Não estou dizendo que é um mar de rosas (até seria, mas só tem espinhos), porém a facilidade com que fazemos as coisas no Ruindows está a anos-luz do Linux (até a versão que tenho Conectiva 5,0). Voce pode simplesmente colocar o monitor padrao mais parecido com o seu. Mas seu monitor veio com manual nao? Nao vejo dificuldade para encontrar o valor no manual... E voce nao instalou uma placa que o windows nao conhece? E quando voce nao tem o driver? No linux quase todos os drivers ja vem com ele. Quando nao vem, dificilmente seu hardware e suportado... Quanto ao fato da interface (tanto caracter quando gráfica) é o sonho de qualquer programador (sonhava em poder usar vários consoles no DOS 5.0, tentei até usar Dosshell p/alternar entre tarefas); a interface gráfica (estou usando o KDE) é muito agradável e tenho certeza que existem outros sabores de X que são também muito agradáveis, porém, devido ao poder e complexidade do Linux, os arquivos de configurações estão espalhados pelos quatro cantos do mundo /etc/x/y/conf.conf e etc. A maioria das configuracoes pode ser feita pelo proprio nao? O que voce mudaria nestes arquivos podem ser coisas mais complexas como qual seu window manager esta rodando... Os arquivos sempre tem uma versao local tb. .gnome* .kde* etc... Devemos ainda considerar que o Linux está se desenvolvendo muito, porém, ainda está anos-luz atrás do Ruindows (culpa dos fabricantes e distribuidores) quando se fala em suporte a Hardware. Desejo muito que o Linux amadureça e que as pessoas que desenvolvem para Linux (drivers, instaladores e etc) comecem a pensar nos usuários leigos (e nos não leigos também), pois uma barreira que existe é que o Linux faz TUDO o que você quiser, porém não é nem fácil nem intuitivo fazer isto. As tarefas mais simples nao sao complexas de executar. Um usuario depois de instalar seu sistema vai querer mexer no /etc depois do programa de instalacao ter configurado toda sua maquina? Agora se voce quiser algo mais avancado como um firewall ou um
Re: ALSA????
Eh para configurar praticamente qualquer placa de som. Funciona, tanto que eu so consegui fazer funcionar meu som on board (CMI8338) no linux qdo utilizei os drivers ALSA. Vah ao site alsa-project.org e baixe os drivers. Leia com atençao as instruçoes, não eh dificil, comigo funcionou de primeira. So nao esqueca que v. precisa compilar o kernel APENAS com o suporte a som compilado (nada de selecionar algum tipo de placa). Estou utilizando o 2.2.18pre21. Qualquer duvida, eh soh postar msg aqui na lista. Vinicius Fernando wrote: Alguem ai sabe do que se trata direito? Acho que e para configurar som, mas nao sei se e para sound blaster... Valeu!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Info (v)Exame x Usuario final
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 01:40:03AM -0200, Fernando wrote: Usuarios finais nao estao interessados em compilar nada ( e com razao), pois esse nao e o objetivo do computador para eles. Eles precisam de algo a unica coisa que eu compilo saum os meus proprios pacotes, que eu desenvolvo, eu tenho interesse em compila-los pq ninguem mais ira compilar pra mim, mas fora isso nao compilo nada, nenhum usuario final nunca vai nem saber o que eh compilar, soh vai ter um botaozinho com um simbolo legalzinho (o do debian no meu caso) onde ele clica e tem uma porcao de opcoes Resumindo : Usuarios nao querem compilar! Na verdade futuramente acredito que computadores serao coisa so de programadores, os aparelhos dos usuarios tomarao forma de apliences (aparelhos, como uma torradeira), onde nao se faz a menor ideia do que ocorre dentro, mas funciona, mas isso e outra estoria... eu discordo muito disso que eh uma ideia q tem sido publicada em muitas revistas ha anos, diziam, quando surgiram os palmtops que o pc ia morrer e etc etc... bobagem ;) Resumindo de novo: Linux nao e para usuarios finais, e qualque tentativa de transforma-lo nisso somente ira descaracterizar o sistema e talvez depois disso nao sera o mesmo, e talvez nem tao bom. naum soh eh, como eh uma alternativa extremamente melhor que windows, ou vc acha q eh qualquer usuario q sabe lidar com telas azuis? ontem fui colocar minha namorada pra brincar de irc na maquina windows da minha irma... sabe o que eu tive que fazer? configurar dns na mao! e o windows teve de reiniciar pra isso! ela conseguiria sozinha? aproveitando a oportunidade perguntei pra ela em qual computador ela preferia conversar no irc, ela disse que preferia milhoes de vezes o XChat, que era bem mais simples e intuitivo (eu naum preguei nada do xchat pra ela!) minha namorada naum sabe nada de computador mas pra vc ter uma ideia do nivel de envolvimento dela com o Linux, ela sabe logar, entrar no diretorio dos mp3 e usar o mpg123 pra toca-los... eh tudo uma questao de costume! aprender a usar windows naum eh trivial assim como aprender a mexer com GNOME tb naum vai ser... coloquemos o cd de instalacao de windows e de Debian na mao de 2 pessoas, cada um com um... ambos leigos vc acha q um deles vai conseguir instalar algum?? traduzindo, o GNU/Linux eh para end-user tanto quanto qualquer outro sistema e eh uma alternativa melhor, pq naum vao haver casos como o de ontem: - Amor, vem cá! Parou tudo aqui... não tá acontecendo mais nada! Mas para alegrar a galera, esta vindo por ai o Debian/HURB da GNU, que por caracteristicas proprias esta mais propicio ao sucesso na casa das pessoas. Se vai colar (e decolar)eu nao sei, mas quem sabe o futuro GNU HURD, eu naum acho que ele seja uma alternativa taum rapida ao linux, anyway, a base dele eh a unica coisa que muda, pq o GNOME vai rodar nele do mesmo jeito e etc etc... a unica mudanca eh o kernel, a filosofia GNU que eh a de dar liberdade a *todas* as pessoas e naum soh aos hackers continua a mesma, mas eh claro q naum havera descaracterizacao no sistema pq isso eh muito importante para todos q trabalham com ele... Abracos a todos e por favor, nao se transtornem, ao inves disso, deem forca ao movimento de liberdade que e o que realmente importa, mais do que qualquer distribuicao Linux eu naum me transtorno, pelo contrario, fico feliz de ver o avanco dessa liberdade invadindo os lares e o dia a dia de pessoas que acham que o computador sempre trava e naum sabem que podem se ver livres disso com total liberdade ;) []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov /*** .''`. * http://www.metainfo.org/kov * : :' : * GPG Key: http://www.metainfo.org/kov/html/pgp.html * `. `'` * http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=2448987 * `- ***/ Debian pgpn3fWhv9M4n.pgp Description: PGP signature
ALSA
hau! alsa eh pra som e diz-se que substituira o OSS no kernel 2.5, esperar pra ver... www.alsa-project.org eu uso pra minha cmipci, q o driver do kernel eh um coco []s! On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 12:55:34AM -0200, Fernando wrote: Alguem ai sabe do que se trata direito? Acho que e para configurar som, mas nao sei se e para sound blaster... =20 =20 Valeu!! =20 =20 -- =20 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] .org =20 =20 --=20 Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov /*** .''`. * http://www.metainfo.org/kov * : :' : * GPG Key: http://www.metainfo.org/kov/html/pgp.html * `. `'` * http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=3D2448987 * `- ***/ Debian pgpsW924bwpyj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A resposta do GNU/Linux contra o FUD
Parabéns pela velocidade ! (mania do linux!) Ainda bem que v. publicou a letra, o portunhol tah bravo! Valeu Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: Os maus artigos contra a popularização da informática chegaram até a periferia , de onde MC festvox e DJ pinguim lançaram sua resposta, um rap contra a hipocrisia e a burrice de se tentar democratizar a informática através de ciclos viciosos de upgrades e pagamentos de software proprietário para uma população que em sua esmagadora maioria ganha o equivalente em um mes a 1/4 do preço mais barato de uma licença de um sistema operacional proprietário. (ou até mesmo menos quando ganha). Contra esse paradoxo, MC FestVox e DJ pinguim lançaram seu protesto. A música pode ser baixada de www.metainfo.org/macan/musica por favor não a redistribuam sem o arquivo que a acompanha com a ficha técnica e alguma informação. Esta musica foi feita em menos de 2 horas, de uma paulada só... letra, música mixagem e scratches... tudo virtualmente no Debian GNU/Linux. Portanto peço alguma compreensão nos scratches desleixados :) Segue a Letra e a ficha técnica... eu usei um sintetizador de voz em espanhol e adaptei a pronúnica das palavras... o sotaque é horrivel :) O FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) by MC Festvox DJ pinguim Yo! aqui eh MC festvox mandando ver, falando a verdade doa a quem doer Eu e o DJ pinguim vamos falar agora de algo que acontece a toda hora na imprensa irresponsavel e vendida que so fala mal e atrapalha nossa vida. o FUD é a duvida incerteza e o medo asssustando o usuario ainda muito cedo para que ele nao experimente a liberdade e o prazer de usar um sistema de verdade GNU/Linux pros mano e pras mina GNU/Linux pros mano e pras mina O FUD é uma doença e nós somos a vacina MC festvox e DJ pinguim, cantando a liberdade pra voce e pra mim. Querem que entreguemos nossa dignidade para quem apenas nos explora sem piedade nos fazendo pagar e pagar de novo por programas que nao servem nem educam nosso povo porque aqui mesmo nao se desenvolve nada nós desembolsamos e os gringos dao risada geramos emprego e tecnologia nestes lugares enquanto no Brasil nao há luz em muitos lares e a populacao nunca viu um computador, sobram desempregados, e empregos no setor Entaao vamos nos unir pela democracia desprezar o gnu linux eh hipocrisia porque todos sabemos que não há dinheiro para pagar pela outra solução. E para terminar com tudo o que eu disse desprezar o GNU/linux é mesmo burrice desprezar o GNU/linux é mesmo burrice desprezar o GNU/linux é muita burrice -- Créditos/Ficha técnica. Letra: Eduardo Maçan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Scratches: DJ pinguim (powered by www.TerminatorX.cx) Vocais: MC festvox (festival speech synthesizer) Codificação mp3: gogo Orgulhoso de ser 100% livre da Microsoft. Sistema operacional usado Debian GNU/Linux 2.3/testing Computador: Celeron 466 96Mb RAM. E mouse. Motivado pelas besteiras da imprensa sobre a inviabilidade do GNU/Linux para a popularização da informática. Santa burrice editorial, batman! Por favor, não distribuia a música sem este arquivo. FUD ou medo incerteza e dúvida é o método pelo qual se tenta criar uma predisposição contrária na audiência através de mentiras, meias verdades e interpretações unilaterais da verdade por parte do autor da matéria. Muito comum na imprensa especializada de informática. -- Vinicius A. De Mario email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usuario linux #152103
Re: RES: Problemas com o XF86Setup
Experimenta correr o XF86Setup e, quando ele perguntar se e' uma reconfiguracao e se queres usar o file de configuracao antigo como ponto de partida (e' das primeiras coisas, ou mesmo a primeira coisa que ele pergunta), responde nao (nao queres usar o antigo, queres descarta-lo, nao queres mais ouvir falar dele! :-) ). Quem sabe isso resulta... Boa sorte. Sebrosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://artenumerica.com/ Ronaldo Santos wrote: Pessoal, como recebo e-mail da lista aqui no trampo e (graças a Deus) excepcionalmente(heheheh) esse final de semana não trabalharei, agradeceria se quem for me responder quebrasse o super-galho de mandar com cópia para [EMAIL PROTECTED] Um abraço a todos e ótimo fim-de-semana!!! ROnaldo. -Mensagem original- De: Ronaldo Santos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: sexta-feira, 2 de fevereiro de 2001 19:35 Para: Debian Portuguese Assunto: Problemas com o XF86Setup Olá pessoal!!! Bom, tenho o Debian 2.2 em casa, instalei td belezinha, apenas por um único problema. Ao executar o XF86Setup dá a impressão de q vai cair na parte gráfica, a tela fica branca com linhas pretas finas verticais, após alguns segundos a tela fica toda branca(sem as linhas) e após mais alguns segundos surge uma faixa vertical preta do lado direito da tela, a a partir daí eu creio q trava, pq por mais q esperei não ví sair daí, então dou CTRL + ALT + BKSPC, e volto ao modo caractere. Ele diz q não pode encontrar o arquivo XF86Config, eu tentei abrir o mesmo no emacs e ele disse q não pode ler o HEADER, no vi abre em branco. Creio q o problema seja este, mas não tenho a mínima idéia de como resolver, alguém poderia me ajudar? Em tempo: PIII 650 64MB 10 GB SIS620 Marca ACER. Obrigado antecipadamente e um abraço a todos. ROnaldo. _ Reconheço que o Linux é mais estável que o Windows - NT - Bill Gates -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Info (v)Exame x Usuario final
- Original Message - From: Gustavo Noronha Silva (KoV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Info (v)Exame x Usuario final On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 01:40:03AM -0200, Fernando wrote: Usuarios finais nao estao interessados em compilar nada ( e com razao), pois esse nao e o objetivo do computador para eles. Eles precisam de algo a unica coisa que eu compilo saum os meus proprios pacotes, que eu desenvolvo, eu tenho interesse em compila-los pq ninguem mais ira compilar pra mim, mas fora isso nao compilo nada, nenhum usuario final nunca vai nem saber o que eh compilar, soh vai ter um botaozinho com um simbolo legalzinho (o do debian no meu caso) onde ele clica e tem uma porcao de opcoes concordo 100%! Resumindo : Usuarios nao querem compilar! Na verdade futuramente acredito que computadores serao coisa so de programadores, os aparelhos dos usuarios tomarao forma de apliences (aparelhos, como uma torradeira), onde nao se faz a menor ideia do que ocorre dentro, mas funciona, mas isso e outra estoria... eu discordo muito disso que eh uma ideia q tem sido publicada em muitas revistas ha anos, diziam, quando surgiram os palmtops que o pc ia morrer e etc etc... bobagem ;) Não quis dizer que o PC vai morrer... é mais uma ideia mais ligada ao conceito do que ao hardware. Talvez as pessoas usem Pcs sem nem sequer saber que estão usando ( ja viu o Indrema?), o que quis dizer é que, acho que um conjunto de padrões pré-estabelecidos com regras simples e intuitivas levará o Pc de hoje ao status de um aparelho voltado para certas funções onde a interface, instalação e etc serão coisas extremamente simples. Resumindo de novo: Linux nao e para usuarios finais, e qualque tentativa de transforma-lo nisso somente ira descaracterizar o sistema e talvez depois disso nao sera o mesmo, e talvez nem tao bom. naum soh eh, como eh uma alternativa extremamente melhor que windows, ou vc acha q eh qualquer usuario q sabe lidar com telas azuis? ontem fui colocar minha namorada pra brincar de irc na maquina windows da minha irma... sabe o que eu tive que fazer? configurar dns na mao! e o windows teve de reiniciar pra isso! ela conseguiria sozinha? aproveitando a oportunidade perguntei pra ela em qual computador ela preferia conversar no irc, ela disse que preferia milhoes de vezes o XChat, que era bem mais simples e intuitivo (eu naum preguei nada do xchat pra ela!) minha namorada naum sabe nada de computador mas pra vc ter uma ideia do nivel de envolvimento dela com o Linux, ela sabe logar, entrar no diretorio dos mp3 e usar o mpg123 pra toca-los... eh tudo uma questao de costume! aprender a usar windows naum eh trivial assim como aprender a mexer com GNOME tb naum vai ser... coloquemos o cd de instalacao de windows e de Debian na mao de 2 pessoas, cada um com um... ambos leigos vc acha q um deles vai conseguir instalar algum?? traduzindo, o GNU/Linux eh para end-user tanto quanto qualquer outro sistema e eh uma alternativa melhor, pq naum vao haver casos como o de ontem: - Amor, vem cá! Parou tudo aqui... não tá acontecendo mais nada! Não concordo. Pois não quis dizer que o Windows é a solução , na verdade bem ao contrario! Eh uma empresa monopolista e de ma qualidade, que so sabe fazer bacalhau no OS deles! Comparar Linux com Windows esta longe da resposta para a democratização total da informatica, Pois um é muito bom onde foi criado para ser, e nasceu de uma forma meio que academica, o outro e baseado em furtos e motivos financeiros( ja viu piratas do silicio?). São conceitos muito diferentes para serem comparados, Concordo com o fato de existir o velho habito, se talves as pessoas nos meados dos anos 80 tivessem começado a usar um FreeBSD da vida, hoje em todo Brasil , os micreiros caseiros teriam problemas de adaptação com qualquer DOS da vida, mas mesmo assim isso não resolve o problema de que : pessoas usam e aprendem a usar o computador de acordo com a necessidade ferramental, assim um geologo nunca ira usar algo que nao seja simples. E vc se esqueceu do que eu disse no comeco: Sua namorada pode ter problemas com win agora, mas no entanto, com alguns meses ela ja vai poder instalar programas ela mesma (lembra do kernel monolitico e como se instala um driver nele?), pois nisso o tio Bill foi muito esperto, e mesmo com telas azuis, como a maioria, ela apenas vai apertar o Reset, e se perder o trabalho, fara de novo, mas ainda assim sera dificil de escolher outro sistema pelo custo dele , no caso do linux: tempo, tempo de que muitas pessoas de outra area nao dispoe. Mas para alegrar a galera, esta vindo por ai o Debian/HURB (Corrigindo Hurd) da GNU, que por caracteristicas proprias esta mais propicio ao sucesso na casa das pessoas. Se vai colar (e decolar)eu nao sei, mas quem sabe o futuro GNU HURD, eu naum acho que ele seja uma alternativa taum rapida ao linux, anyway, a base dele eh a unica coisa que
Re: Info (v)Exame x Usuario final
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 05:39:37PM -0200, Fernando wrote: Não quis dizer que o PC vai morrer... é mais uma ideia mais ligada ao conceito do que ao hardware. Talvez as pessoas usem Pcs sem nem sequer saber que estão usando ( ja viu o Indrema?), o que quis dizer é que, acho que um conjunto de padrões pré-estabelecidos com regras simples e intuitivas levará o Pc de hoje ao status de um aparelho voltado para certas funções onde a interface, instalação e etc serão coisas extremamente simples. sim, nisso vc tem razao, btw, vcs viram o robo caseiro que roda linux? ele pode ateh subir escadas ;) E vc se esqueceu do que eu disse no comeco: Sua namorada pode ter problemas com win agora, mas no entanto, com alguns meses ela ja vai poder instalar programas ela mesma (lembra do kernel monolitico e como se instala um driver nele?), pois nisso o tio Bill foi muito esperto, e mesmo com telas azuis, como a maioria, ela apenas vai apertar o Reset, e se perder o trabalho, fara de novo, mas ainda assim sera dificil de escolher outro sistema pelo custo dele , no caso do linux: tempo, tempo de que muitas pessoas de outra area nao dispoe. naum, eu naum concordo, eu acredito, que ninguem va instalar um novo hardware sozinho a naum ser que entenda disso, mesmo pq, instalar um driver no windows naum eh assim essa facilidade naum, citei minha placa de video por exemplo, ela chega a 16 milhoes de cores, mas pela primeira vez vi windows em preto e branco ao instalar o windows de novo... quanto ao kernel, portanto, minha namorada nunca precisarah fazer algo do tipo se naum quiser (e garanto que naum vai). Sobre as telas azuis eh que eu digo, o computador tem hoje fama de atrasar a vida (vcs viram no jo soares aquele escritor que odeia computadores por causa das telas azuis?) as telas azuis naum saum simples como vc citou naum, sem contar que um computador que rode windows tem bem mais chance de sofrer um ataque DoS ou uma invasao, ou vc vai explicar pra sua amiguinha de colegio que ela naum deve rodar aquele screensaver pq eh um backdoor? Naum me diga que o usuario de linux pode fazer isso tb, pq ele estara protegido pelos privilegios do sistema... Essa unica diferenca e a mais importante que podia acontecer, nao se esqueca que microkernel tem caracteristicas e conceitos que cabem mais a automação de processos. naum entendi nada que c disse aqui ;), a estrutura do Hurd eh muito interessante, mas naum acho q o mundo esteja preparado pra duas revolucoes rapidas assim, daqui uns 5 anos quem sabe... []s! ps: lembro de ter visto ha alguns meses uma dessas correntes pregando para que naum se usasse os '' no email ao dar reply, mas eu gostaria de pedir que fosse usado pq eu mesmo naum tava achando o que que eu tinha falado e o que que vc tinha falado, imagina quem naum escreveu? -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov /*** .''`. * http://www.metainfo.org/kov * : :' : * GPG Key: http://www.metainfo.org/kov/html/pgp.html * `. `'` * http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=2448987 * `- ***/ Debian pgpGzOHch7YMy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Trident 9680 e XFree 4.0
Caros todos, Instalei hoje o XFree 4.0 e estou com algumas dificuldades. Para começar, achei estranho o script em debconf do xserver-xfree86, apesar de todas as perguntas, não ter gerado o /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Acabei criando-o via xf86config, o que não foi difícil, e apontando o link /etc/X11/X para o novo servidor. Seja como for, minha placa de vídeo é uma daquelas genéricas com chipset Trident 9680 e 1MB RAM, e o monitor é um SyncMaster 3 com suporte a DPMS. Essa combinação estava funcionando bem com o antigo XF86_SVGA (ainda está, se eu apontar o link para ele), mas parece que o 4.0 está totalmente confuso. Quando entro no modo gráfico, o cursor do mouse aparece perfeito, com o tamanho que costuma ter em 1024x768 (uso 8bpp), mas as janelas não. O texto e as janelas aparecem gigantescos, como se a resolução estivesse em 320x240, e quebradas, i.e., com pedaços trocados ou duplicados (creiam, é difícil explicar). O mais estranho, porém, é que o X-Windows pensa que as janelas estão no lugar, pq se eu clico onde o botão *deveria* estar, os pedaços dele na tela aparecem clicados, e a função é executada. Mudando a profundidade para 16bpp (o que me faz cair para 800x600) no XF86Config-4, o resultado é o mesmo: o tamanho do cursor aumenta, tudo parece estar em 320x240 etc. Se mudá-la para 24bpp (640x480), porém, o servidor não entra, e retorna uma mensagem de erro informando que não há nenhum Screen disponível. Desnecessário dizer que ambos os modos rodam sem problemas no servidor antigo. Experimentei alterar os parâmetro do driver no XF86Config-4 seguindo as orientações do man trident, mas sem sucesso, e comparar as seções deste novo arquivo de configuração com suas contrapartes parecidas no arquivo antigo, para ver se havia alguma diferença substâncial (não havia). Resultado: por enquanto continuo com o servidor 3.3.6. Mas eu bem que gostaria de alguma sugestão para poder usar o 4.0.2. :-) []'s Alexander Gieg Alexander Gieg Nada estimo mais, entre todas as coisas [EMAIL PROTECTED] que não estão em meu poder, do que contrair Nick: AlexG uma aliança de amizade com homens que amem ICQ: 2200285 sinceramente a verdade. São Paulo - SP (Baruch de Espinoza)
Re: Info (v)Exame x Usuario final
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 05:39:37PM -0200, Fernando wrote: Não quis dizer que o PC vai morrer... é mais uma ideia mais ligada ao conceito do que ao hardware. Talvez as pessoas usem Pcs sem nem sequer saber que estão usando ( ja viu o Indrema?), o que quis dizer é que, acho que um conjunto de padrões pré-estabelecidos com regras simples e intuitivas levará o Pc de hoje ao status de um aparelho voltado para certas funções onde a interface, instalação e etc serão coisas extremamente simples. sim, nisso vc tem razao, btw, vcs viram o robo caseiro que roda linux? ele pode ateh subir escadas ;) E vc se esqueceu do que eu disse no comeco: Sua namorada pode ter problemas com win agora, mas no entanto, com alguns meses ela ja vai poder instalar programas ela mesma (lembra do kernel monolitico e como se instala um driver nele?), pois nisso o tio Bill foi muito esperto, e mesmo com telas azuis, como a maioria, ela apenas vai apertar o Reset, e se perder o trabalho, fara de novo, mas ainda assim sera dificil de escolher outro sistema pelo custo dele , no caso do linux: tempo, tempo de que muitas pessoas de outra area nao dispoe. naum, eu naum concordo, eu acredito, que ninguem va instalar um novo hardware sozinho a naum ser que entenda disso, mesmo pq, instalar um driver no windows naum eh assim essa facilidade naum, citei minha placa de video por exemplo, ela chega a 16 milhoes de cores, mas pela primeira vez vi windows em preto e branco ao instalar o windows de novo... quanto ao kernel, portanto, minha namorada nunca precisarah fazer algo do tipo se naum quiser (e garanto que naum vai). Sobre as telas azuis eh que eu digo, o computador tem hoje fama de atrasar a vida (vcs viram no jo soares aquele escritor que odeia computadores por causa das telas azuis?) as telas azuis naum saum simples como vc citou naum, sem contar que um computador que rode windows tem bem mais chance de sofrer um ataque DoS ou uma invasao, ou vc vai explicar pra sua amiguinha de colegio que ela naum deve rodar aquele screensaver pq eh um backdoor? Naum me diga que o usuario de linux pode fazer isso tb, pq ele estara protegido pelos privilegios do sistema... Mais ou menos, as pessoas mais xenófobas podem não instalar, mas te sempre aquele vizinho que mexe com computadores e certamente ira ajuda-las, ai começa a confusao! O que quero dizer e que, bem ou mal, ocomputador nao esta realmente ajudando a vida das pessoas, a velocidade de producao que o computador gerou na historia, apenas fez com que as pessoas tivessem que acompanhar essa mesma velocidade, e nao utiliazar da rapidez para ter mais qualidade de vida! Antes um desenhista faria 2 desenhos por dia, agora com o computador e a competitividade do mercado, ele tem que fazer 10!O seu tempo para aprender outras coisas nao aumentou, e as vezes ate acho que diminuiu. Dai a falta de vontade das pessoas em se adaptarem a coisas muito diferentes( pelo menos referentes a informatica). Qunato ao saber que um screensaver e ou nao um backdoor, isso tb nao interessa e nem deveria aos usuarios, para isso existem os profissionais da area. Essa unica diferenca e a mais importante que podia acontecer, nao se esqueca que microkernel tem caracteristicas e conceitos que cabem mais a automação de processos. naum entendi nada que c disse aqui ;), a estrutura do Hurd eh muito interessante, mas naum acho q o mundo esteja preparado pra duas revolucoes rapidas assim, daqui uns 5 anos quem sabe... Vou tentar me explicar melhor... A estrutura do microkernel e mais facil para manutencao e criacao de modulos ou drivers, e mesmo a inclusao dos mesmos. Na minha opiniao uma das coisas mais terriveis contra o Linux e a falta dos fabricantes de hardware em providenciar drivers para outros OSs, mesmo pq isso da mais trabalho. Com o hurd, talvez os fabricantes se sintam mais a vontade ( ate pq poderiam fornecer drivers fechados), e talvez contribuissem mais... Acho que e isso... []s! ps: lembro de ter visto ha alguns meses uma dessas correntes pregando para que naum se usasse os '' no email ao dar reply, mas eu gostaria de pedir que fosse usado pq eu mesmo naum tava achando o que que eu tinha falado e o que que vc tinha falado, imagina quem naum escreveu? -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov /*** .''`. * http://www.metainfo.org/kov * : :' : * GPG Key: http://www.metainfo.org/kov/html/pgp.html * `. `'` * http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=2448987 * `- ***/ Debian - Original Message - From: Gustavo Noronha Silva (KoV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: Re: Info (v)Exame x Usuario final
Re: Info (v)Exame x Usuario final
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 09:52:54PM -0200, Fernando wrote: On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 05:39:37PM -0200, Fernando wrote: Mais ou menos, as pessoas mais xenófobas podem não instalar, mas te sempre aquele vizinho que mexe com computadores e certamente ira ajuda-las, ai começa a confusao! O que quero dizer e que, bem ou mal, ocomputador nao esta realmente ajudando a vida das pessoas, a velocidade de producao que o computador gerou na historia, apenas fez com que as pessoas tivessem que acompanhar essa mesma velocidade, e nao utiliazar da rapidez para ter mais qualidade de vida! Antes um desenhista faria 2 desenhos por dia, agora com o computador e a competitividade do mercado, ele tem que fazer 10!O seu tempo para aprender outras coisas nao aumentou, e as vezes ate acho que diminuiu. Dai a falta de vontade das pessoas em se adaptarem a coisas muito diferentes( pelo menos referentes a informatica). Qunato ao saber que um screensaver e ou nao um backdoor, isso tb nao interessa e nem deveria aos usuarios, para isso existem os profissionais da area. c tah batendo na mesma tecla que eu, mas vc saiu do escopo, vc agora tah falando da entidade 'computador' e naum da qualidade do GNU/Linux como Desktop, quanto a instalar uma placa, definitivamente naum eh trabalho pra um vizinho e sim pra um profissional da area =) Vou tentar me explicar melhor... A estrutura do microkernel e mais facil para manutencao e criacao de modulos ou drivers, e mesmo a inclusao dos mesmos. Na minha opiniao uma das coisas mais terriveis contra o Linux e a falta dos fabricantes de hardware em providenciar drivers para outros OSs, mesmo pq isso da mais trabalho. Com o hurd, talvez os fabricantes se sintam mais a vontade ( ate pq poderiam fornecer drivers fechados), e talvez contribuissem mais... nah, naum concordo com vc naum, eu acho que o grande trunfo do microkernel eh vc poder ter um kernel pra cada usuario hehehe, parece meio bobo mas eh isso mesmo, mais coisas rodando em nivel de usuario e menos em nivel de kernel, isso naum torna as coisas mais simples pra os criadores de drivers... a criacao de um driver para linux naum eh esse terror todo que vc disse, as empresas simplesmente naum querem perder tempo com um sistema pouco utilizado e tb naum liberam informacoes para que pessoas interessadas facam os drivers pq? isso eh dificil responder... por exemplo, pctel... o modem, na verdade, eh o driver, a parte de hardware naum eh nada mais que uma placa de som pra fazer os pulsozinhos... quem modula/demodula tudo eh o driver, entaum o segredo do hardware estah no software, eh um bom motivo pra esconder o codigo neh? []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov /*** .''`. * http://www.metainfo.org/kov * : :' : * GPG Key: http://www.metainfo.org/kov/html/pgp.html * `. `'` * http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=2448987 * `- ***/ Debian pgpTtLWdmqvTX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RES: Problemas com o XF86Setup
Olá pessoal!!! Bom, tenho o Debian 2.2 em casa, instalei td belezinha, apenas por um único problema. Ao executar o XF86Setup dá a impressão de q vai cair na parte gráfica, a tela fica branca com linhas pretas finas verticais, após alguns segundos a tela fica toda branca(sem as linhas) e após mais alguns segundos surge uma faixa vertical preta do lado direito da tela, a a partir daí eu creio q trava, pq por mais q esperei não ví sair daí, então dou CTRL + ALT + BKSPC, e volto ao modo caractere. Ele diz q não pode encontrar o arquivo XF86Config, eu tentei abrir o mesmo no emacs e ele disse q não pode ler o HEADER, no vi abre em branco. Creio q o problema seja este, mas não tenho a mínima idéia de como resolver, alguém poderia me ajudar? Em tempo: PIII 650 64MB 10 GB SIS620 Marca ACER. -- O problema estah na sua placa de Video. Isso mesmo, a placa SIS eh a mais problematica de todas, principalmente porque vem onboard na maioria dos micros. No meu caso utilizo uma placa S3, e desabilitei a onboard. Consegui uma vez configurar uma SIS herdando a configuracao. Configurei em um outro micro e copiei a configuracao, mas sem XF86Setup porque o acesso a bios ou driver da SIS tem bugs, muitas vezes nao roda nem como SVGA, VGA16 ou ACCEL. Infelizmente, os fabricantes nao liberam certas informacoes sobre o hardware, e isso dificulta para que os desenvolvedores criem drivers mais eficientes. Eh bem provavel que voce consiga roda-la no XFree 4.0.x porque a arquitetura nao e baseada em varios servidores, mas em varios drivers pro unico servidor X, e o driver pode estar em melhor situacao. Outra alternativa eh tentar configurar pelo xf86config colocando o modo de video pra 16 ou 24 bits. Esse mesmo problema aconteceu com varios amigos meus, com qualquer distribuicao e todos com placas SIS620 onboard. Alguns apresentam problemas ateh mesmo no Windows. Opcoes nos setups das maquinas podem progredir pra isso, dependendo de fabricante de placa-mae e bios. Se quizer evitar dor de cabeca coloque uma placa de video nova.
Re: RES: Problemas com o XF86Setup
Esse mesmo problema aconteceu com varios amigos meus, com qualquer distribuicao e todos com placas SIS620 onboard. Alguns apresentam problemas ateh mesmo no Windows. Opcoes nos setups das maquinas podem progredir pra isso, dependendo de fabricante de placa-mae e bios. Se quizer evitar dor de cabeca coloque uma placa de video nova. Nao sei se precisa ser tao radial assim. Esta placa funciona muito bem no X3. E so configurar usando o xf86config. E por texto mas funciona bem e e tao simples quanto o grafico(a dificuldade e a mesma). Eu tenho uma SiS530 e nao tenho este tipo de problema. A 620 é muito parecida com ela e se nao me engano o X nem as distingue internamente. -- Alexandre Pereira da Silva http://aletes.net ICQ#: 22163948 Tel: (11) 93830810
xfree86-4 depth question (s3virge)
My system configuration: debian running unstable, xfree86 version 4, s3virge chipset.. the FAQ in xfree86 docs say that my chipset (s3virge) is fully supported in xfree86-4 in color depths of 1,4,5,8,16,24. I am currently running at 8 bit mode. I want to run at 16 or 24 bit but when I do that my screen looks like there is static or something...kind of hazy and flickering... I tried adjusting my horizontal/vertical refresh rates thinking that the problem might lie with my monitor..no good...even trying to run at the minimum horizontal/vertical refresh rates doesn't work when I try to run at 16 or 24 bit color depth. My question is what's going on here? -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: mutt + seperate folder for lists
There doesnt seem to be any harm in declaring both 'lists' and 'subscribe' in your muttrc. I reccomend you see Tom Gilbert's .muttrc (lots of which I use) at http://linuxbrit.co.uk for a real nice setup. * will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:28:00PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:12:55PM -0600, will trillich wrote: to reply PUBLICLY to a list, use mutt's L key. it looks for 'x-mailing-list' headers and uses that as the reply-to, but only *IF* you've set up your ~/.muttrc to recognize the list name: # ~/.muttrc lists debian-user debian-www debian-doc magick-user ^ Actually, if you want the Mail-Followup-To: header set so you don't get cc:ed, you should use subscribe instead of list. You are getting a Cc: of this message since your m-f-t is set accordingly (that is, you used list). i get two copies when that happens. one to me, one to the list (of which i'm a subscriber). i'll go nose around the docs to see what 'subscribe' does... -- See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something. But the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs. -- Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newbieDoc -- next week's newbie needs your brain: document your experience today! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Charlie Yao [EMAIL PROTECTED] The greener grass on the other side is probably artificial turf. - Unknown
Re: xfree86-4 depth question (s3virge)
alephtnull debian running unstable, xfree86 version 4, s3virge chipset.. the FAQ in alephtnull xfree86 docs say that my chipset (s3virge) is fully supported in xfree86-4 in alephtnull color depths of 1,4,5,8,16,24. I am currently running at 8 bit mode. I want to alephtnull run at 16 or 24 bit but when I do that my screen looks like there is static alephtnull or something...kind of hazy and flickering... I tried adjusting my alephtnull horizontal/vertical refresh rates thinking that the problem might lie with my alephtnull monitor..no good...even trying to run at the minimum horizontal/vertical refresh rates alephtnull doesn't work when I try to run at 16 or 24 bit color depth. alephtnull alephtnull My question is what's going on here? I guess the memory of your video card is not enough. Would you please tell me the memory size of it and the resolution you selected? Regards, --Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help needed on first install
This is my first ever Debian install. Previous experience limited to RH 4/5 years ago and recently Mandrake 7.1, so I am not a heavy Linux type at this point. Hardware: Old AT style mainboard with 233Mhz Cyrix 8x86 80Mb Ram Microsoft mouse (also Kensington trackball) ATI Expert98 graphics card Software: Debian 2.2r2 (potato) Problem: I managed to muddle my way into getting the system to boot into the GUI mode and display at 1024x768, but the mouse doesn't work. I have tried both the Microsoft mouse and Kensington trackball. Since it's an older AT style mainboard the mouse goes on COM1 (using WinSpeak). I figured this would be /dev/tty0. Have tried all the different baud rates. NADA A couple of questions (1) any hints? (2) I have managed to log into root in the GUI but can't seem to bring up an xterm with no mouse available. What would be the key strokes to do that (if at all possible). Thanks, -rick attachment: winmail.dat
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xfree86-4 conflicts (ATI Mach64 GX)
I have been having problem upgrading to XFREE86-4. I use ATI Mach64 GX(PCI) on my system. X fail to start anything beyond 15bpp. X starts below 8bpp but screen has very noisy color assignment (looks like color assignment table is corrupted.) I can see icons though. XFree86.0.log has suspicious message for 1bpp, 4bpp, 8bpp mode. (--) PCI:*(0:11:0) ATI Mach64 GX rev 3, Mem @ 0xfe00/24 ... (II) Loading sub module atimisc (II) LoadModule: atimisc (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o (II) Module ati: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 6.2.3 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3 (WW) Registering the following despite conflicts with estimated resources: [0] 0 0x01ce - 0xf3fe IS[S] Does anyone have same problem? Anyway to avoid it? In higher color resolution (15bpp), it has same kind of suspicous message and fails with: (EE) ATI(0): Depth 15 is not supported through this adapter. (II) UnloadModule: ati (II) UnloadModule: atimisc (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found --- Regards, Osamu -- + Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + Fingerprint: 814E BD64 3288 40E7 E88E 3D92 C3F8 EA94 D5DE 453D + + === http://www.aokiconsulting.com === Cupertino, CA USA === +
Re: Managing many Debian machines
One thing we haven't fully decided yet is that whether we should keep network-wide configuration files in /usr/local and replace original files with symlinks, or should we use rsync or similar to keep every system in sync. The former has the advantage of making the change instantaneous while the latter reduces hosts' dependency on the server. Though they'll still be dependant on /home being NFS shared anyway, that's why haven't decided it yet. i love dpkg-repack! you can setup a box, then recreate the .deb with your settings, and install it anywhere. (ok, my debian network is four machines, so this approach may be worth just 0.02$...)
Re: mutt + seperate folder for lists
will trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/02/2001 (10:12) : if he's using mutt, no munging of the reply-to field is necessary: to reply to the sender, use mutt's r key. that'll reply off-list to the sender, and nobody else will be the wiser. to reply PUBLICLY to a list, use mutt's L key. it looks for 'x-mailing-list' headers and uses that as the reply-to, but only *IF* you've set up your ~/.muttrc to recognize the list name: Or you can use the g key which will send to both the list and the sender. -- Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ -- iMy favorite editor is Emacs!ESCbcwVimESC -- vim best-editor.txt
Re: full and halfduplex mode
Hi, does Realtek not has a DOS setup disk? I am sure of that. Download the disk (or program), boot it and set the card's defaults to half-duplex, save it and boot Linux again. This should work. Greetz, Sebastiaan On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Peter Quiel wrote: hiho .. i just wanna know how to force the ethernet kart in halfduplex mode .. its a rlt8139. thx for reply. ciaoi Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console-tools installation error
Martin == Martin Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin On Fri, 02 Feb 2001, Michael Abraham Shulman wrote: Trying to switch from kbd to console-tools (testing distribution), I get this error when configuring console-tools: /var/lib/debconf/config.53881: null: command not found console-tools failed to configure, with exit code 127 Any ideas what's wrong? Martin Deinstall (dpkg -P kbd) kbd first. Now when configuring I encounter bug #53091 (a prompt that hangs the installation script). I fixed this by installing the version of console-tools in unstable, rather than testing. Isn't testing supposed to be *more* stable than unstable? \\// | R | T R | L B | //\\ ~ Michael Abraham Shulman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ jabber://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kurukshetra.cjb.net/ ~ GnuPG Public Key #21A279E5 MILLIHELEN, n. The amount of beauty required to launch one ship. pgpkhrtp55V6z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help needed on first install
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Rick Commo wrote: This is my first ever Debian install. Previous experience limited to RH 4/5 years ago and recently Mandrake 7.1, so I am not a heavy Linux type at this point. Hardware: Old AT style mainboard with 233Mhz Cyrix 8x86 80Mb Ram Microsoft mouse (also Kensington trackball) ATI Expert98 graphics card Software: Debian 2.2r2 (potato) Problem: I managed to muddle my way into getting the system to boot into the GUI mode and display at 1024x768, but the mouse doesn't work. I have tried both the Microsoft mouse and Kensington trackball. Since it's an older AT style mainboard the mouse goes on COM1 (using WinSpeak). I figured this would be /dev/tty0. Have tried all the different baud rates. NADA A couple of questions (1) any hints? Assuming the mouse does work, did you make a symbolic link mouse to ttyS0 (NOT tty0: this is a console). Try first: # cd /dev # ln -s ttyS0 mouse and try to start X win now. If not, how did you configure your X windows? There is a setup program called 'anXious'. You can also edit the configuration file /etc/X11/XF86Config. Greetz, Sebastiaan (2) I have managed to log into root in the GUI but can't seem to bring up an xterm with no mouse available. What would be the key strokes to do that (if at all possible). Thanks, -rick
OT: fvwm95 configuration
Hello, I want to configure fvwm95 window manager to my own needs. Does anyone know a tool with which I can configure Fvwm95-Buttons and put a background image? I have read some docs about it, but they were not very clear. I know how to adjust the Buttons by editing the config file, but I found nothing about putting an image on the background. Greetz, Sebastiaan
Re: problem with print server
I posted earlier but I didn't include a copy of /etc/printcap - so here is a copy of my /etc/printacp - maybe that helps... I'm not very familiar with setting up printers - so if anybody can give me a hint I'd appreciate it! Thanks! hpcolor|hp business inkjet 2250PS\ :lp=:\ :rm=printserv:\ :rp=L2:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/hpcolor:\ :af=/var/log/hpcolor-errs:\ :lf=/var/log/hpcolor-acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:sf: brother|brother hl-10v\ :lp=:\ :rm=printserv:\ :rp=L1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/brother:\ :df=/etc/filter.ps:\ :tf=/etc/filter.pcl:\ :af=/var/log/brother-acct:\ :lf=/var/log/brother-errs:\ :pl#66:\ :pw#80:\ :pc#150:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:sf:
apache with php4-imap support
when I try to enable php4-imap support in php.ini... apache will not run.. but when I run it without imap.so ... apache works fine. but If i run apache without imap.so... and reconfigure php.ini and reload(not restart) apache.. it runs fine with imap support. errmsg in /var/log/apache/error.log [Sat Jan 27 12:26:35 2001] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down apache: dl-close.c:123: _dl_close: Assertion `new_opencount[0] == 0' failed.
Re: Managing many Debian machines
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 09:42:47AM +0100, Pietro Cagnoni wrote: i love dpkg-repack! you can setup a box, then recreate the .deb with your settings, and install it anywhere. (ok, my debian network is four machines, so this approach may be worth just 0.02$...) Ahh, thanks for the tip, I had never heard of such thing before. My plan was to make a task-custom-setup package to do the actual modifications in postinst. Hmm, it would seem to me that you would need to dpkg-repack packages every time¹ they get upgraded. Unless you do that before an initial installation, the customized changes won't be included. Once installed, either way, the changes persist thanks to the way conffiles are handled. Anyway, thanks, it's always good to know the alternatives. And you have to start saving that $1M somewhere... :-) ¹ We will be using sid on some boxes, this is not a real problem with potato. -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533 09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6 pgpg2ohq80Ao0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Truetype fonts
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:37:17PM -0500, David B. Harris wrote: [snip] I'd like to warn you that there are two 'ttmkfdir' programs around that people mix up; 'ttmkfdir', and 'mkttfdir'. One is good, the other isn't quite so good. A while ago in #debian on irc.openprojects.net, there was a debate about which was better. I got the tarball of the one I used and sent it around to people and had them run in. For the six people that did it, there was a 150-230% gain in the number of fonts and font encodings that were recognized. The one which recognized the most encodings was 'ttmkfdir'. While it is true that ttmkfdir identifies more fonts and encodings than mkttfdir, I have not been able to make xfs (4.0.2 from testing) work with its fonts.dir files. The only difference I can find is that ttmkfdir does not capitalize foudries but that should not make a difference, should it? /regards Anton -- Sex is like snow. You never know how many inches you're going to get or how long it will last.
Re: debian and applix and postgresql
Hi, On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Bill Barnes wrote: Is anyone able to offer some help in this connection. Perhaps you specify your problems in more detail? I've got Applix running on my machine. The install-script worked fine for Debian, while it did not for RedHat 5.2 (which was installed before). Under RedHat I had to install the packages one by one starting the rpm manually. Regards, Kerstin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Managing many Debian machines
Hmm, it would seem to me that you would need to dpkg-repack packages every time¹ they get upgraded. Unless you do that before an initial installation, the customized changes won't be included. Once installed, either way, the changes persist thanks to the way conffiles are handled. ok, now all we need to build a bulletproof system is a detailed dpkg log to know exactly what appened with every apt-get upgrade. this way you can keep a reference box with all the needed .deb for your network, and you know which .deb you need to repack from the dpkg log. ... is there any developer listening? (even to yell there IS a log, go RTFM :-) )
Crash?!?
Hello everyone Last night something weird happened. I was locally on my Debian GNU/Linux machine, doing some chatting, whilst suddenly the whole system seemed to get into an unusable state. I could still switch VTs, but could not login on any of them. Funnily was I able to login remotely, though. Today, I noticed the following (rather long) dump in /var/log/syslog. It doesn't look like a usual Oops, so I am unsure what caused this. Does anyone have a clue what was going on?? Thanks. Okay, here follows the dump: Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: freesibling Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: task PCstack pid father child younger older Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: init 1 S C17F9EF8 5136 1 0 4438 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: kflushd2 S C17B5FA4 5656 2 1 3 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: kupdate3 S C17B3FB8 5868 3 1 4 2 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 fffd : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: kpiod 4 S 0F00 6976 4 1 5 3 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: kswapd 5 S C17AFFC4 5436 5 1 129 4 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: syslogd 10 S 7FFF 5252 129 1 131 5 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: klogd 12 R C145C000 0 131 1 220 129 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: dhcpcd 8 S C151FF78 4 220 1 224 131 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: named 9 S C14D7EF8 376 224 1 229 220 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: inetd 7 S 7FFF 4932 229 1 235 224 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: nmbd 14 S C0325EF8 5988 235 1 237 229 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 1080 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: smbd 15 S 7FFF 6272 237 1 4005 244 235 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 1080 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: sshd 16 S 7FFF 5252 244 1 4483 249 237 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: atd 17 S C0F13F78 5732 249 1 253 244 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: cron 19 S C0CA7F78 3120 253 1 261 249 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: apache22 S C0B1BEF8 5508 261 1 1521 267 253 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: getty 21 S 7FFF 5448 267 1 268 261 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: getty 23 S 7FFF 0 268 1 269 267 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: getty 24 S 7FFF 2720 269 1 270 268 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: getty 25 S 7FFF20 270 1 4185 269 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: apache26 S C0A9BE74 5316 271 261 272 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: apache27 S C0A93E74 6064 272 261 273 271 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: apache28 S C0A87E74 6016 273 261 274 272 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: apache29 S C0A7DE74 6016 274 261 275 273 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: apache30 S C0A73E74 5936 275 261 1517 274 Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel:sig: 0 : X Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: apache41 S C0C5DE74
Installing xlibs wants to remove xdm and other stuff
This is what apt-get -s gives:- monkey:/home/neil# apt-get -s dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: intlfonts-japanese intlfonts-japanese-big xbase-clients xdm xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-cjk xfonts-scalable 2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Remv intlfonts-japanese Remv intlfonts-japanese-big Remv xfonts-scalable Remv xfonts-cjk Remv xfonts-100dpi Remv xdm Remv xfonts-base Remv xfonts-75dpi Remv xbase-clients Inst xlibs [shellutils on hurd] Inst xlibs-dev [shellutils on hurd] Conf xlibs Conf xlibs-dev monkey:/home/neil Why does it want to remove this stuff, including xdm? I need to keep the various fonts; how can I resolve this? Thanks, Neil.
display flickering, mouse side to side locking up
when playing quake 3, or any other time with heavy video stuff going on, x has a tendancy to start flicking, and in quake's case to cause the mouse to only go up and down, and it doesn't allow side to side. the display will go black until there is some mouse or keyboard input, and even then it will flicker sporadicaly, and the only way it can be fixed is by a reboot. here's what i'm using. XFree 4.02 2.4.0 nvidia .96 drivers abit ka7 athlon slot a geforce sdr has anyone else had any problems like this? and any possible solutions? -- Forrest English http://truffula.net I don't like this air, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop breathing. -Doug Martsch
solutions to d-link 650 net adapter
Hi I post this msg for two thing: for thanking the answers and leaving it in the archives for others. I had a problem with the d-link net adpater (pcmcia) on my notebook, i was a potato r2. The solution was to install the kernel 2.2.18, which comes with a pcmcia-modules version that corrects problems for the driver I needed. Well, once the net adapter works, the rest of the update is quite easy. PS: I've been using linux for a couple of years, and somewhat got sick of the updating methods of suse and RH (RH is somewhat cool with RHN, but is pay service), and this ease of administration really pays learing distr-specific things.
Re: Help needed on first install
Hi Rick, COM1: maps to ttyS0 not tty0. To tell X where to look for your mouse: Make sure your 'Device' in the 'Pointer' section of /etc/X11/XF86Config is set to /dev/ttyS0 If you still have problems try checking for gpm running as this can cause problems with X. If it is stop it (as root use: /etc/init.d/gpm stop ) then try starting X. gpm is there to provide support for a mouse when you are in console mode, so you may not need it. If X works without gpm try starting gpm with the -R option (see man page). 'ps ax | grep gpm' gives the following for me (Logitech 3-button using IntelliMouse protocol): /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -Rms3 Jim Rick Commo wrote: This is my first ever Debian install. Previous experience limited to RH 4/5 years ago and recently Mandrake 7.1, so I am not a heavy Linux type at this point. Hardware: Old AT style mainboard with 233Mhz Cyrix 8x86 80Mb Ram Microsoft mouse (also Kensington trackball) ATI Expert98 graphics card Software: Debian 2.2r2 (potato) Problem: I managed to muddle my way into getting the system to boot into the GUI mode and display at 1024x768, but the mouse doesn't work. I have tried both the Microsoft mouse and Kensington trackball. Since it's an older AT style mainboard the mouse goes on COM1 (using WinSpeak). I figured this would be /dev/tty0. Have tried all the different baud rates. NADA A couple of questions (1) any hints? (2) I have managed to log into root in the GUI but can't seem to bring up an xterm with no mouse available. What would be the key strokes to do that (if at all possible). Thanks, -rick winmail.dat Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Encoding: base64
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Re: SysV Init
Hi, The scripts are stored in /etc/init.d Each runlevel has its own directory e.g. /etc/rc0.d, /etc/rc1.d etc. In the runlevel dirs there are a load of symlinks to the scripts in /etc/init.d. The format of the filename is: Sxxscriptname to run a script with the start argument when entering the level Kxxscriptnameto run a script with the stop argument when entering leaving the level xx is a number which tells init which order to run the links, lowest first, scriptname is the name of the script in /etc/init.d, I don't believe that matching the name is a requirement as I think that init only cares about the first three chars, just common sense for administration. Jim p.s. Please cc me in on a reply as well as the list Stephen Robertson wrote: I'm fairly new to Debian and still learning the system. What is the accepted method of configuring which services are stopped and started in each run level, and how can I add my own commands to the Init scripts. RedHat provided a file called rc.local for adding user commands. Is there a similar method in Debian?
Re: Faxes are not delivered by mgetty
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:27:30AM +0100, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: Hallo Brian! Am Don, 01 Feb 2001, schrieb Brian Potkin: In /etc/mgetty/new_fax I have the line USER=postmaster I have no USER in new_fax. Maybe I am using another new_fax-script. I have an ADMIN set to POSTMASTER. Postmasters mail is sent to root, and roots mail is sent to me. Debian's default new_fax is written by Ed Doolittle but which one you are using shouldn't matter provided it is executable and the permissions are correct. In the DIRECTORS CONFIGURATION section of /etc/exim.conf I have system_aliases: driver = aliasfile file_transport = address_file pipe_transport = address_pipe file = /etc/aliases search_type = lsearch* ^ I do not have an asterix there. What does it mean? From /usr/share/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz: If '*' is added to a single-key lookup type (for example, lsearch*), then if the initial lookup fails, the key '*' is looked up in the file to provide a default value. So an entry such as `*: jan' in /etc/aliases would deliver mail not addressed to postmaster or root to user jan. It's not needed and leaving it out shouldn't affect your fax delivery. Brian.
Re: Crash?!?
Sven Burgener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Today, I noticed the following (rather long) dump in /var/log/syslog. It doesn't look like a usual Oops, so I am unsure what caused this. [...] Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: freesibling Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: task PCstack pid father child younger older Feb 3 02:08:12 host kernel: init 1 S C17F9EF8 5136 1 0 4438 [...] I suggest posting this to linux-kernel (http://www.tux.org/lkml). moritz -- Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.chaosdorf.de/moritz/ Debian/GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org/ http://www.gnu.org/ GPG fingerprint = 3A14 3923 15BE FD57 FC06 B501 0841 2D7B 6F98 4199
TIFF format???
I am using hylafaz server with some Windows clients. I have whfc as client program. And I have test some picture viewer programs as iview .. but all tell me that don't understand thi file format. Of course Xv, imagemagic, etc works.. but amy sugestion for windows? Than you for all Angel
Re: Vids ?
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Brandeil macleod wrote: hi ! I have been trying to install some packages to run MPEG/AVI etc but with no luck. Tried xmms plugins and xanim put nothing want to insatll. Try avifile for watching Divx ;) avi (and other codecs). You can download it at http://divx.euro.ru/ Don't use 0.6, take 0.56.3, the latest stable release. It compiles fine on my sid-box (haven't been dist-upgrading lately though) For mpeg: apt-cache search mpeg will show you a lot of choices :-) Good luck. -- You know the great thing about TV? If something important happens anywhere at all in the world, no matter what time of the day or night, you can always change the channel. -- Jim Ignatowski
Tekram DC-395U SCSI and Installation of Debian 2.2r2
I want to install Debian 2.2r2 on my computer but I've ran into problems that I can't solve. I have two SCSI disks [1.2 and 2.7 GB] on Tekram DC-395U SCSI controller [bootable]. Debian CD doesn't support my controller so I've found some boot disks [Rescue and Root]. When I boot from floppies, everything works perfect. Controller is recognized, disks and CD also and I'm able to partition and initialize disks. When I try to install Kernel and Modules from floppies, it asks for the Rescue disk, installs it, than asks for the Drivers disk. I don't have that one so the only thing left is to install Kernel and Base System from CD. Later, when I reboot, boot process is started and works untill time comes to mount disks. Offcourse, The controller is not recognized, so there are no disks. The question is: How can I make Debian recognize my SCSI? or How can I make Drivers disk when I don't have a running system? or Help!? Also I have a Diamond Monster Fusion Voodoo Banshee [what a big name] Which X-Server should I use and how can I find out all the details about it which are necesarry for installation of X? Here are the links for the Boot disks for Tekram DC-395U and Debian 2.2: http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/dc395/ http://www.tekram.com.tw/Storageftp/SCSI/PCI/DC-395X/DC-395U/Driver%26AP/Lin ux/Debian/Debian22/
Re: debian@home
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Casey Webster wrote: I use dhcp over cable and pump (the default dhcp client) does not fetch an address properly for me. It just sits there for 2 minutes and tells me Operation Failed. I downloaded and installed dhcpcd and tell it dhcpcd -R eth1 and it gets me an address in less than a second. You might try that if you are having problems and are using pump. Great this was exactly my problem, and I switched to dhcpcd and everything works great. However I also gsetup the default configuration of dhcpcd to grab no port and had the configuration happen the 'debian way'. I just put int the following into my /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth1 inet dhcp hostname @home-host did an ifup eth1 and w/ dhcpcd it workd great. -- Till Later, Jake
tcp/ip network for dos connection
Hi I have a 486 notepc on dos. I'd like to use it to connect to my debian through telnet. I have 3com 3CXE589ET. But I have no idea to setup this card to connect to debian. I have card driver for dos ipx. But I guess I need tcp/ip driver. I guess I have to do these to solve that problem, 1. need lan card driver for dos I think I already have lan card driver for dos. But I'm not sure. Because, all of those files only said about ipx netware. They don't say about tcp/ip 2. need something files for tcp/ip I looked for tcp/ip files for dos supported from 3com, but nothing. Is there other solutions? 3. programs like ftp, telnet for dos All I want is connect to my debian through that lan card from notepc for backup and telnet. Any solutions willbe appricated, thanx, Geengun ** Next Community ½Åºñ·Î www.shinbiro.com ¹«·á ¸ÞÀÏ, ¹«·á ȨÆäÀÌÁö **
Poor Performance with X 4.00
HI I'm using X 4.00 and Kde2.0 as the Windowmanager with my Geforce256 grafics card. I used the nv-driver from S.u.S.E 7.0 for X 4.0 at 1280*960 Everything works fine until I try Gl-Applications, like the Tuxedo game, which runs at maybe 1-2 fps. Before upgrading to X 4.0, it ran smooth. There are no errors reported by X so far, that could indicate that there's anything wrong. Thank you for your help, Till Sawala
Poor Performance with X 4.00
HI I'm using X 4.00 and Kde2.0 as the Windowmanager with my Geforce256 grafics card. I used the nv-driver from S.u.S.E 7.0 for X 4.0 at 1280*960 Everything works fine until I try Gl-Applications, like the Tuxedo game, which runs at maybe 1-2 fps. Before upgrading to X 4.0, it ran smooth. There are no errors reported by X so far, that could indicate that there's anything wrong. Thank you for your help, Till Sawala
Re: Now Stormix is no more . . .
On 01-02-02 Phillip Deackes wrote: apps they developed? I am thinking particularly of the superb installation routine; SAS, the GUI administration modules and Storm Package Manager, the front-end to apt. Storm Package Manager is available in Debian Unstable (+ Testing?) already. Just a short note here. stormpkg and SAS will be further developed via sourceforge, where already some people created the nessecary projetcs and will maintain the code. Ciao Christian -- Debian Developer and Quality Assurance Team Member 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 pgpXmBwz2edTv.pgp Description: PGP signature
reiserfs annoyances
Hi folks, I'm running a woody (as of 2-weeks ago) machine with a 2.4.1-ac2 kernel on it. I've got reiserfs compiled in, and all of my file systems (except boot) are now running on reiserfs. I'm running ii reiserfsprogs 3.x.0a-1 *PRE-RELEASE* Tools for ReiserFS filesystems compiled from the sid sources. Overally, I'm very happy with reiserfs, but there are a few annoyances. The first is that, presumably resiserfsck doesn't understand some option passed to it by /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh, as when it gets to that stage it stops and waits until you confirm to do an fsck. Does anyone know a way around this, short of commenting out the offending line in checkroot.sh (as is doing this a Bad Thing?)? The other thing that may or may not be a problem is that every time the system boots, it seems to replay the transaction logs of all of the filesystems. This suggests to me that it's not umounting them correctly. Or is this the expected behaviour of reiserfs? Another thing is it complains when you have the following in your /etc/fstab: /dev/hda2 / reiserfs defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 If you take out the `errors=remount-ro' it seems to work fine. Again, I'm not sure if removing this line is going to have disasterous consequences, or if it's something that reiserfs doesn't need. If anyone has any suggestions I'd be very interested. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
php4_4.0.3pl1-0potato1.deb install problem
I've tried to install: php4_4.0.3pl1-0potato1.deb and I get this error: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of php4: php4 depends on apache-common ( 1.3.9.1); however: Version of apache-common on system is 1.3.12-1. dpkg: error processing php4 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: php4 Now this webpage http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/php4.html says apache-common (= 1.3.9) Support files for all Apache webservers apache-common ( 1.3.9.1) Support files for all Apache webservers Is'nt this a contradiction? How should I proceed?
Re: apache/php + apxs?
Well, apxs is just a tool for building and installing extensions modules in apache. It is supplied with apache-dev, so once you install it, you do have an apxs-enabled server. HTH, Andrei
Which computer to buy ?
Hello ! I will buy a new computer and would like to know your sugestions. Here, in Brazil, I have U$ 700 to buy it. I will use-it to make small C programs, to navegate in the internet, to make laboratory works (in the graduate school).
Re: tcp/ip network for dos connection
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 10:24:14PM +0900, ±èÁø±Ù wrote: First when writing to this list turn the html crap off. Second I have not networked with dos but if you want to use IPX you can compile your kernel and add that protocol. kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: php4_4.0.3pl1-0potato1.deb install problem
Haisam K. Ido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried to install: php4_4.0.3pl1-0potato1.deb and I get this error: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of php4: php4 depends on apache-common ( 1.3.9.1); however: Version of apache-common on system is 1.3.12-1. dpkg: error processing php4 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: php4 Evidently you've upgraded to a newer version of apache than the one in stable (1.3.9-13.1), so you'll need to find a comparable version of php4 to go with it. If you're upgrading apache to unstable (which incidentally now has 1.3.14-2.1), then why not get php4 from there as well? Now this webpage http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/php4.html says apache-common (= 1.3.9) Support files for all Apache webservers apache-common ( 1.3.9.1) Support files for all Apache webservers Is'nt this a contradiction? No, it means it depends on some version of apache-common between 1.3.9 (inclusive) and 1.3.9.1, such as 1.3.9-13.1. (Debian policy describes how version numbers are compared.) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LILO failure
Hi, I'm having trouble getting lilo to dualboot with Redmondware. When lilo comes up it just says LILO without the colon and I can't type anything, then it loads Linux after the timeout. My lilo.conf looks like this, did I miss anything? lba32 boot=/dev/hda install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map delay=60 vga=normal default=linux image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 label=linux read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda Henrik Enberg -- Television -- teacher, mother, secret lover! - Homer J. Simpson
Re: LILO failure
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 05:50:47PM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble getting lilo to dualboot with Redmondware. When lilo comes up it just says LILO without the colon and I can't type anything, then it loads Linux after the timeout. My lilo.conf looks like this, did I miss anything? lba32 boot=/dev/hda install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map delay=60 vga=normal default=linux image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 label=linux read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda Couple things you have delay=n I have timeout=n also in the other section I have no table=/dev/hda remove that rerun /sbin/lilo. If there are any errors spit out when you run /sbin/lilo post them to the list. hth, kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: reiserfs annoyances
Damon Muller wrote: The first is that, presumably resiserfsck doesn't understand some option passed to it by /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh, as when it gets to that stage it stops and waits until you confirm to do an fsck. Does anyone know a way around this, short of commenting out the offending line in checkroot.sh (as is doing this a Bad Thing?)? I don know the answer for that. The other thing that may or may not be a problem is that every time the system boots, it seems to replay the transaction logs of all of the filesystems. This suggests to me that it's not umounting them correctly. Or is this the expected behaviour of reiserfs? As far as I know it is normal, just to check the log, and make sure everything went fine with unmount. Thus, once it is done with the check, the file system should be without errors. Otherwise a journaled file system does not make sense. /dev/hda2 / reiserfs defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 Because the filesystem will be in good shape, the error-statement does not make sense. It is just a ext2 issue. (when fsck tells, the file system is corrupt it just mounts it read only. Added my rambling :-) Ciao, mattHias -- __ _ __ * /\_/\ \ \_/ \_/ / * Matthias Wieser * / \ \ /* ICQ#: 12597522 * / /\_/\ \ \_/^\_/ *[EMAIL PROTECTED] * WW WW *
Re: LILO failure
On Saturday 03 February 2001 17:01, ktb wrote: On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 05:50:47PM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble getting lilo to dualboot with Redmondware. When lilo comes up it just says LILO without the colon and I can't type anything, then it loads Linux after the timeout. My lilo.conf looks like this, did I miss anything? lba32 boot=/dev/hda install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map delay=60 vga=normal default=linux image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 label=linux read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda Couple things you have delay=n I have timeout=n also in the other section I have no table=/dev/hda remove that rerun /sbin/lilo. If there are any errors spit out when you run /sbin/lilo post them to the list. hth, kent and.. add the word prompt at the top ;)
Re: Window Manager trouble/Thanks
Hi, Excuse my continuing X density. :-) When I run plain X from root, I get a grey screen and X cursor -- which moves fine -- but nothing else. Either a) I just don't know how to pop up a console window from this bare display, or b) I should be getting more than this, and this is a clue to whatever's wrong. I have included an X.err file below ... it records me starting plain X up from root, then CTRL-ALT-BKSPing to down it. Second, of the WMs I have installed, here is a breakdown of what works and what doesn't -- thought there might be some common gnd between the members of each set that would provide a clue: Works: Enlightenment, icewm, blackbox, twm, AfterStep Classic Doesn't Work: wmaker, fvwm, sawmill I'm most interested in this phenom as a sign of something larger wrong with my system. How can a bloated beast like Enlightenment run flawlessly when those others don't? WMaker is my favorite WM but I suppose I can learn to live w/o it ... but what is happening here? And why *should* I live w/o WMaker ... if I don't want to? :-) G Here is the X.err file: XFree86 Version 4.0.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) Release Date: 18 December 2000 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.2.18 i686 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sat Feb 3 06:56:34 2001 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout Simple Layout (**) |--Screen Screen 1 (0) (**) | |--Monitor NEC (**) | |--Device Voodoo3 (generic) (**) |--Input Device Mouse1 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard1 (**) XKB: rules: xfree86 (**) XKB: model: pc101 (**) XKB: layout: us (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ (**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (--) using VT number 7 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0 (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (--) PCI:*(0:14:0) 3Dfx Interactive Voodoo3 rev 1, Mem @ 0xf400/25, 0xfc00/25, I/O @ 0x1000/8 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a (II) Module freetype: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.1.8 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o (II) Module tdfx: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 (II) TDFX: Driver for 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3 chipsets: 3dfx Banshee, 3dfx Voodoo3, 3dfx Voodoo5 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset 3dfx Voodoo3 found (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) Module vgahw: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 (II) TDFX(0): Softbooting the board (through the int10 interface). (II) TDFX(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (II) TDFX(0): Softbooting the board succeeded. (**) TDFX(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (==) TDFX(0): RGB weight 565 (==) TDFX(0): Default visual is TrueColor (--) TDFX(0): Chipset: 3dfx Voodoo3 (--) TDFX(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xFC00 (--) TDFX(0): MMIO registers at addr 0xF400 (--) TDFX(0): PIO registers at addr 0x1000 (--) TDFX(0): VideoRAM: 16384 kByte Mapping 32768 kByte (==) TDFX(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) TDFX(0): NEC: Using hsync
Build Packages-file
Hello,
I'm wondering if it is possible to build the Packages-file that tells apt
about packages in a directory-tree, on my own. What I mean is: you have
some unofficial .deps and want to use apt-get install one_package so
dependencies are solved by apt. I think it is necessary that there is an
Packages and Packages.gz so apt can create cache entries for this
unofficial packages, like the Packages/Packages.gz contained in the
distribution tree, e.g.
/ftp/pub/debian/2.2r0/bin_1/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages{.gz}.
The content of these files is similar to output of dpkg -f a_dep_pkg.dep,
but there are some entries missing.
Thanks, Frank Grimm.
--
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Re: LILO failure
Please add prompt. kirneh74 boot=/dev/hda kirneh74 install=/boot/boot.b kirneh74 map=/boot/map kirneh74 delay=60 kirneh74 vga=normal kirneh74 default=linux kirneh74 kirneh74 image=/vmlinuz kirneh74 root=/dev/hda5 kirneh74 label=linux kirneh74 read-only kirneh74 kirneh74 other=/dev/hda1 kirneh74 label=windows kirneh74 table=/dev/hda Regards, --Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unstable broken upgrade
Hi, I have an unstable debian box at home. When doing the last apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade, I get the following errors: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done The following packages will be upgraded ae ark console-data debconf kab karm kcalc kcharselect kdepasswd kedit kfind kfloppy khexedit kjots knotes kpm ktimemon libgconf11 libgnome-vfs0 libmedusa0 20 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/3209kB of archives. After unpacking 433kB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Preconfiguring packages .. No default for console-data/keymap/qwerty/ukrainian/standard/keymap - picking one No default for console-data/keymap/qwerty/lithuanian/standard/keymap - picking one No default for console-data/keymap/qwerty/russian/standard/keymap - picking one No default for console-data/keymap/qwerty/macedonian/standard/keymap - picking one No default for console-data/keymap/qwerty/canadian/variant - picking one No default for console-data/keymap/qwerty/turkish/standard/keymap - picking one No default for console-data/keymap/qwerty/latvian/standard/keymap - picking one No default for console-data/keymap/fggiod/layout - picking one No default for console-data/keymap/fggiod/turkish/standard/keymap - picking one No default for console-data/keymap/dvorak/layout - picking one No default for console-data/keymap/qwertz/swiss/variant - picking one If you have information about what choice should be the default for the above questions which gave warnings, please mail me this at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your help. (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ae_962-28_i386.deb (--unpack): files list file for package `bonobo' is missing final newline Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/ae_962-28_i386.deb Processing was halted because there were too many errors. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ How do I get around these errors so that I can continue to upgrade my box regularily? Thanks, Anthony
GRUB - LILO
I am interested how I can make GRUB my favorite boot loader. Right now make-kpkg wants to run Lilo. I just need to get the files in place and GRUB will do the rest, i can change the menu, if necesary by hand. By the way, why are many using Lilo. In my opinion, GRUB does not break as easy. Once running, it is good for starting. The reason, you can already explore at boottime the whole file system. Thus if your kernel-build goes wrong, you just start an other kernel.(even if it is NOT in the boot-menu) (think about broken lilo, it won't start ... and if some lines are missing, there is no old kernel to boot) Or do I miss an issue about the GRUB? Thank, mattHias Wieser -- __ _ __ * /\_/\ \ \_/ \_/ / * Matthias Wieser * / \ \ /* ICQ#: 12597522 * / /\_/\ \ \_/^\_/ *[EMAIL PROTECTED] * WW WW *
Re: unstable broken upgrade
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 06:15:23AM -0500, Anthony Fox wrote: Hi, I have an unstable debian box at home. When doing the last apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade, I get the following errors: [lots of cruft clipped] (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ae_962-28_i386.deb (--unpack): files list file for package `bonobo' is missing final newline And here we have the actual error. You might have experienced minor file corruption, similar things have happened to me too. Quick fix is to edit a file in /var/lib/dpkg/info/, in this case bonobo.list and to make sure that the last line ends with a newline. How do I get around these errors so that I can continue to upgrade my box regularily? After fixing the file you should be able to continue the upgrade. Just to be on the safe side, you should reinstall bonobo to get the dpkg database properly consistent. -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533 09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6 pgpggLt1rfK6q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Advice on HD partitioning
Goal: Gain experience with two different distros yet maintain a usable machine under both of these distros. Plan: Install a 20GB hard disk and partition it as shown below: +---+---+ | swap | 512MB | +---+---+ | /home | 3GB | +---+---+ | / for stable Debian | 4GB | +---+---| | / for stable Mandrake | 4GB | +---+---+ | / for play Debian | 4GB | +---+---+ | / for play Mandrake | 4GB | +---+---+ My plan was based on the assumptions that (1) all distros use the same file system, so /home can always be mounted (2) the swap space gets reinitialize on every reboot (3) LILO can be used to select which partition to boot from and can be set up correctly from any of the OS versions This should not be rocket science, but I've been bit enough before while playing with simple, obvious things that I'd like to know ahead of time if there are there flies lurking in the ointment here and fix them up front. Cheers and thanks -rick attachment: winmail.dat
Re: GRUB - LILO
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 05:28:02PM +0100, Matthias Wieser wrote: I am interested how I can make GRUB my favorite boot loader. # cp -a /usr/share/grub/i386-pc /boot/grub # grub setup (hd0,0) That's about it. Use at your own risk and please do read the docs first! Creating /boot/grub/menu.lst would make the booting less painful. Right now make-kpkg wants to run Lilo. I just need to get the files in place and GRUB will do the rest, i can change the menu, if necesary by hand. You can disable running lilo on kernel install. See man kernel-img.conf, the parameters you might find interesting are do_boot_enable and do_bootloader. I haven't bothered using these just yet, I still keep lilo around for failsafe :) By the way, why are many using Lilo. In my opinion, GRUB does not break as easy. Once running, it is good for starting. Well, generally If it ain't broke, don't fix it applies. People already have LILO installed and they can boot their system with it, so why bother messing with a brand new bootloader and possibly making the system unbootable by accident. At least I studied the documentation quite carefully before installing grub. Oh, and since grub 0.5.96.1 fails to install when you use devfs, I even had to patch it first :-P Or do I miss an issue about the GRUB? Well, I can't think of any. It's superior propably in every way, but it's just too new to be as widely accepted as LILO. -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533 09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6 pgprpJ2sGcno6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Advice on HD partitioning
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 08:51:41AM -0800, Rick Commo wrote: Goal: Gain experience with two different distros yet maintain a usable machine under both of these distros. Plan: Install a 20GB hard disk and partition it as shown below: +---+---+ | swap | 512MB | +---+---+ | /home | 3GB | +---+---+ | / for stable Debian | 4GB | +---+---| | / for stable Mandrake | 4GB | +---+---+ | / for play Debian | 4GB | +---+---+ | / for play Mandrake | 4GB | +---+---+ My plan was based on the assumptions that (1) all distros use the same file system, so /home can always be mounted (2) the swap space gets reinitialize on every reboot (3) LILO can be used to select which partition to boot from and can be set up correctly from any of the OS versions This should not be rocket science, but I've been bit enough before while playing with simple, obvious things that I'd like to know ahead of time if there are there flies lurking in the ointment here and fix them up front. (1) Yes you can mount /home whether debian or mandrake and can share that partition. (2) Yes you can share the swap partition, it is reinitialized. (3) You can set up lilo from any of the distros and boot to whichever setup you want but just to be clear you setup lilo on *one* of the OS versions. hth, kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: Build Packages-file
Frank Grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering if it is possible to build the Packages-file that tells apt about packages in a directory-tree, on my own. man dpkg-scanpackages (dpkg-scanpackages is in the dpkg-dev package) Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9
Re: Which computer to buy ?
My advice, were you in the US, follows. However, I have no idea if similar used-computer prices exist where you are. So you'll have to judge for yourself. 1: get a cheap 88, 86, 286, or 386 system (say, $20-40) (stay away from IBM, though, due to hardware incompatibilities later). 2. Buy a big hard disk (say 4 Gigabytes, $30 used, just avoid Maxtor and Samsung according to others on this debian-user listserver). Repartition, reformat your hard disk to meet the new standards. Note that you can get another hard disk and use it as a slave later, if you want. Also buy a cheap, working CD drive (say, $20). 3. Determine if you have a motherboard or mainboard on your computer. Mainboards have the disk controllers tied to the board, while motherboards have the disk controllers tied to a card. Whichever kind your 386 uses, your new computer should use too. 4. Find a new motherboard/mainboard with CPU already installed, that uses DIMM memory. Note that if you pick a PCI motherboard, you may have to take everything out and drill new, properly matching holes in your steel case. Or you'll have to find some other way to mount the board. That's not a problem, but you should be aware of this. Get the fastest one you want. 5. Transfer the motherboard, transfer all the cards, replacing any equipment that is WIN- equipment, because Linux will not recognize it. It's junk anyways. Also, you may well want to consider an HP-IB card, if you are wanting to run lab equipment. As I understand it, this card is a standard. 6. and then load it with as much DIMM memory as you can afford. (I say DIMM, because that kind of memory is the cheapest right now in Lithuania, and the situation might be the same where you are.)Don't forget to also buy cache RAM if you lack it, though. 7. Install your system. My guess is that for $700 you should be able to get an 800-1200 MHz system this way, loaded with a ton of RAM. One thing to consider, though: My brother tried to run the serial ports under Windows-95 DOS, and found that either Windows or the PCI bus system pretty much messes up the timing of the whole thing. He ended up going with an old 386 for that purpose. So if you are thinking of running your lab equipment through the serial ports, you might reconsider and instead keep the 88/86/286/386, and plow the extra money into a good second system. But if you are going to do it through the HPIB board or through Linux, I suspect that things might come out a bit better. -Original Message- From: Antonio A. Lobato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:35 AM Subject: Which computer to buy ? Hello ! I will buy a new computer and would like to know your sugestions. Here, in Brazil, I have U$ 700 to buy it. I will use-it to make small C programs, to navegate in the internet, to make laboratory works (in the graduate school). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GRUB - LILO
On Sat, 03 Feb 2001, Matthias Wieser wrote: I am interested how I can make GRUB my favorite boot loader. Right now make-kpkg wants to run Lilo. I just need to get the files in place and GRUB will do the rest, i can change the menu, if necesary by hand. $ cd /usr/share/doc/kernel-package; zless README.gz Then see that it mentions grub and a script in the directory that you're in. Have a look at that script. Edit the script to your liking. By the way, why are many using Lilo. In my opinion, GRUB does not break as easy. Once running, it is good for starting. The reason, you can already explore at boottime the whole file system. Thus if your kernel-build goes wrong, you just start an other kernel.(even if it is NOT in the boot-menu) (think about broken lilo, it won't start ... and if some lines are missing, there is no old kernel to boot) Or do I miss an issue about the GRUB? For one thing, it does not appear to support RAID at all. Also, it is the traditional boot loader for linux on i386. This goes a long way. But grub is better if you're not using RAID. Cheers, Chris -- Got jag? http://www.tribsoft.com
re CD-RW
I've studied recent postings, the relative HOWTO and the Kenel help text documentation and now feel that I understand what I need to do. Unfortunately, I am faced with a problem to which I can find no specific reference. I shall recompile the Kernel (have the tarballs for both 2.2.18 and 2.4.0 -- shall use the former initially). On this machine (the only one above 300 MHz), I always boot from floppies which I make (using 'make bzdisk') when compiling kernels. Booting is very fast after the bios boot - no pause or invitation to add parameters. I'll need to give 'hdd=ide-scsi' after bios boot and can't find how to pause the automatic 'loading .'. When everything is set up satisfactorily, I would like to add the parameter to the boot floppy - again I've no idea how. I'm proposing to configure the CD-RW in Potato 2.2r0 and the machine is a PC stand-alone with an AMD 500MHz and no real scsi devices. Can someone explain how I can solve my immediate problems. I feel sure I understand the correct kernel configuration requirements - there will be no modules to load. Grateful for help. John.
devfsd error
Hi, I decided to try actually using the devfs I compiled into my kernel (2.4.1), rather than just mounting it out of the way and poking around, but: First it complained about no /dev/.devfsd file, couldn't find what to put in it (though I found some mention of it), so i just touched the file. then: [EMAIL PROTECTED] devfsd]$ sudo /etc/init.d/devfsd start Setting up symlinks in /dev...done. Setting up extra devices in /dev...done. Starting devfsd...Error getting protocol revision Inappropriate ioctl for device What's that about? -Jon
Re: Build Packages-file
On 3 Feb 2001, Bob Hilliard wrote: Frank Grimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering if it is possible to build the Packages-file that tells apt about packages in a directory-tree, on my own. man dpkg-scanpackages (dpkg-scanpackages is in the dpkg-dev package) Bob Thanks, Frank. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Managing many Debian machines
i love dpkg-repack! you can setup a box, then recreate the .deb with your settings, and install it anywhere. (ok, my debian network is four machines, so this approach may be worth just 0.02$...) Nice solution...I was looking into creating a dummy package of just the config files we needed to install a configuration specific to our setup, but this might work as well. Question: apt-get is a noticebly interactive program...what kind of problems does one run into when running it from a cronjob or the like? This is the major issue in applications involving many machines, as I want to keep the machines up to date (or at least up to what I say is the up to date version at the moment), yet I don't have the resources to ssh into each box and do an apt-get. Hiring college students to do this isn't an option, either. =) Daniel
Re: Window Manager trouble/Thanks
Glenn Becker wrote: Hi, Excuse my continuing X density. :-) When I run plain X from root, I get a grey screen and X cursor -- which moves fine -- but nothing else. Either a) I just don't know how to pop up a console window from this bare display, or b) I should be getting more than this, and this is a clue to whatever's wrong. I have included an X.err file below ... it records me starting plain X up from root, then CTRL-ALT-BKSPing to down it. Second, of the WMs I have installed, here is a breakdown of what works and what doesn't -- thought there might be some common gnd between the members of each set that would provide a clue: Works: Enlightenment, icewm, blackbox, twm, AfterStep Classic Doesn't Work: wmaker, fvwm, sawmill I'm most interested in this phenom as a sign of something larger wrong with my system. How can a bloated beast like Enlightenment run flawlessly when those others don't? WMaker is my favorite WM but I suppose I can learn to live w/o it ... but what is happening here? And why *should* I live w/o WMaker ... if I don't want to? :-) What do you get when you run : $ update-alternatives --config x-window-manager -- ~~~
Re: Advice on HD partitioning
Rick Commo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goal: Gain experience with two different distros yet maintain a usable machine under both of these distros. Plan: Install a 20GB hard disk and partition it as shown below: -- Detailed partition layout snipped -- You should have no problem with this setup. I have a similar setup, except it is spread over three hard drives, and the partition sizes are quite different. I have a Woody partition, a Potato partition, backup partitions for each, a /local partition that is symlinked to my home directory, and a large /usr/local partition, primarily for building my packages. I also have a DOS 6.22 partition and an WIN95 partition. I can boot into any of these partitions using GRUB, and my home and /usr/local are mounted in any of the Linux partitions. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9
Re: Managing many Debian machines
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 01:23:07PM -0500, Daniel Whelan wrote: Nice solution...I was looking into creating a dummy package of just the config files we needed to install a configuration specific to our setup, but this might work as well. FYI, you can't install two different packages containing the same file(s). The packages would conflict and apt/dpkg would refuse to install them. Question: apt-get is a noticebly interactive program...what kind of problems does one run into when running it from a cronjob or the like? Running apt-get with --assume-yes or --trivial-only parameter should prevent any questions apt might have. Configuring debconf to use some non-interactive frontend should avoid any configuration related questions. I haven't yet tried those in practice though :-/ -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533 09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6 pgpzCn4hYp6Tx.pgp Description: PGP signature
attempting to set correct options for my sound card for Soundblaster 16 PCI W
I have what was advertised as a Soundblaster 16 PCI The main chip says CT5880-DCQ, Model CT4810 I include some output. My suspcision is that es1370 or es1371 or the sb modules is what I want. As this is a PCI pnp card, isapnp is presumably irrelevant? Would appreciate if someone has an idea which module should be used and with what options. === output of various commands # lsmod Module Size Used by af_packet 5884 1 (autoclean) serial 18036 1 (autoclean) sound 55480 0 soundlow 348 0 [sound] soundcore 2372 3 [sound] tulip 30232 1 # uname -a Linux cr325385-a 2.2.18pre21 #1 Sat Feb 3 12:19:35 EST 2001 i586 unknown # lspci -n 00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:122d (rev 01) 00:07.0 Class 0601: 8086:122e (rev 02) 00:07.1 Class 0101: 8086:1230 (rev 02) 00:12.0 Class 0401: 1274:5880 (rev 02) 00:13.0 Class 0300: 1002:4758 (rev 01) 00:14.0 Class 0200: 1011:0014 (rev 21) # lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 430FX - 82437FX TSC [Triton I] (rev 01) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371FB PIIX ISA [Triton I] (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371FB PIIX IDE [Triton I] (rev 02) 00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq: Unknown device 5880 (rev 02) 00:13.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX [Mach64 GX] (rev 01) 00:14.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21041 [Tulip Pass 3] (rev 21) # grep '^CONFIG_SOUND' /boot/config-2.2.18pre21 CONFIG_SOUND=m CONFIG_SOUND_CS4281=m CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION=m CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1=m CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370=m CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371=m CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO=m CONFIG_SOUND_ESSSOLO1=m CONFIG_SOUND_ICH=m CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES=m CONFIG_SOUND_TRIDENT=m CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=m CONFIG_SOUND_PAS=m CONFIG_SOUND_SB=m CONFIG_SOUND_GUS=m CONFIG_SOUND_SSCAPE=m CONFIG_SOUND_CS4232=m CONFIG_SOUND_OPL3SA1=m CONFIG_SOUND_SOFTOSS=m CONFIG_SOUND_YM3812=m CONFIG_SOUND_VMIDI=m CONFIG_SOUND_UART6850=m 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 430FX - 82437FX TSC [Triton I] (rev 01) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371FB PIIX ISA [Triton I] (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371FB PIIX IDE [Triton I] (rev 02) (prog-if 80 [Master]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 I/O ports at 8000 00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq: Unknown device 5880 (rev 02) Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 2003 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10 I/O ports at ff00 Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 00:13.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX [Mach64 GX] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Flags: stepping, medium devsel Memory at ff00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Expansion ROM at 000a [disabled] 00:14.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21041 [Tulip Pass 3] (rev 21) Subsystem: Standard Microsystems Corp [SMC]: Unknown device 2007 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 I/O ports at fc80 Memory at ffbeff80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Expansion ROM at ffb8 [disabled]
Re: attempting to set correct options for my sound card for Soundblaster 16 PCI W
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Walter Tautz wrote: I have what was advertised as a Soundblaster 16 PCI The main chip says CT5880-DCQ, Model CT4810 I should point out that I am trying to use the existing modules in the 2.2.18pre21 kernel rather than the alsa stuff. -walter I include some output. My suspcision is that es1370 or es1371 or the sb modules is what I want. As this is a PCI pnp card, isapnp is presumably irrelevant? Would appreciate if someone has an idea which module should be used and with what options. === output of various commands # lsmod Module Size Used by af_packet 5884 1 (autoclean) serial 18036 1 (autoclean) sound 55480 0 soundlow 348 0 [sound] soundcore 2372 3 [sound] tulip 30232 1 # uname -a Linux cr325385-a 2.2.18pre21 #1 Sat Feb 3 12:19:35 EST 2001 i586 unknown # lspci -n 00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:122d (rev 01) 00:07.0 Class 0601: 8086:122e (rev 02) 00:07.1 Class 0101: 8086:1230 (rev 02) 00:12.0 Class 0401: 1274:5880 (rev 02) 00:13.0 Class 0300: 1002:4758 (rev 01) 00:14.0 Class 0200: 1011:0014 (rev 21) # lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 430FX - 82437FX TSC [Triton I] (rev 01) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371FB PIIX ISA [Triton I] (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371FB PIIX IDE [Triton I] (rev 02) 00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq: Unknown device 5880 (rev 02) 00:13.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX [Mach64 GX] (rev 01) 00:14.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21041 [Tulip Pass 3] (rev 21) # grep '^CONFIG_SOUND' /boot/config-2.2.18pre21 CONFIG_SOUND=m CONFIG_SOUND_CS4281=m CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION=m CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1=m CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370=m CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371=m CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO=m CONFIG_SOUND_ESSSOLO1=m CONFIG_SOUND_ICH=m CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES=m CONFIG_SOUND_TRIDENT=m CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=m CONFIG_SOUND_PAS=m CONFIG_SOUND_SB=m CONFIG_SOUND_GUS=m CONFIG_SOUND_SSCAPE=m CONFIG_SOUND_CS4232=m CONFIG_SOUND_OPL3SA1=m CONFIG_SOUND_SOFTOSS=m CONFIG_SOUND_YM3812=m CONFIG_SOUND_VMIDI=m CONFIG_SOUND_UART6850=m 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 430FX - 82437FX TSC [Triton I] (rev 01) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371FB PIIX ISA [Triton I] (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371FB PIIX IDE [Triton I] (rev 02) (prog-if 80 [Master]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 I/O ports at 8000 00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq: Unknown device 5880 (rev 02) Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 2003 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10 I/O ports at ff00 Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1 00:13.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX [Mach64 GX] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Flags: stepping, medium devsel Memory at ff00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Expansion ROM at 000a [disabled] 00:14.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21041 [Tulip Pass 3] (rev 21) Subsystem: Standard Microsystems Corp [SMC]: Unknown device 2007 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 I/O ports at fc80 Memory at ffbeff80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Expansion ROM at ffb8 [disabled] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which MLM?
On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 12:09:58 EST, MaD dUCK writes: running postfix, which is my best bet on a mailing list manager? ezmlm seems out of reach (qmail dependend), so i am left with a choice between majordomo, listproc, and smartlist... any others? listar http://www.listar.org/ can you guys give me some hints, advantages and disadvantages regarding the above packages? which ones are you using (with postfix), what are the experiences? listar is MTA-independent, it doesn´t make a difference if you´re running sendmail, qmail, postfix, exim, smail, whatever. It also comes with a handy web-interface and makes it easy for dummies to manage delegated lists. And, unless majordomo, it´s GPL. My favourites from the feature-list are: - unmime mails - convert html-mails to plain text - can put attachments automatically on the web and include proper URL - virtualhost support You can see it running on listar.org itself and on my server http://gfrastsackl.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi hth, rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
Re: which MLM?
also sprach Andreas Jellinghaus (on Sat, 03 Feb 2001 11:57:09AM +0100): look at listar. it's very, very neat. the documentation isn't that good, but the software is very, very good. but it has only limited virtual hosts capabilities. i ended up using mailman from www.list.org. it's quite nice! [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- You step in the stream, but the water has moved on. This page is not here.
Re: Potato with USB support
Il Friday 02 February 2001 15:05, ktb ha scritto: On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 02:31:48PM +, Vittorio De Martino wrote: I have a USB Epson scanner (supported under Red Hat 7.0) and I've just got the CDs of Debian 2.2r2 that I want to install. My question is as simple as that: needing the scanner, what flavor of kernel (as I read in the installation instruction) should I install in order to have USB devices supported by default? Vanilla is that the right flavor ? If not ,what should I do? First off this is your third post regarding this subject. One is sufficient. kent Sorry Kent, but I actually posted this very message twice in the newsgroup linux.debian.user but it looked as though there were no effect at all, none answered. Therefore I thought that to partecipate to the list it was compulsory being subscribed to this mailing list (and being flooded by mail). So I posted my third message on the same subject in this mailing list. A Debian's Newbie Vittorio
Re: re CD-RW
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 05:33:07PM +, john gennard wrote: I've studied recent postings, the relative HOWTO and the Kenel help text documentation and now feel that I understand what I need to do. Unfortunately, I am faced with a problem to which I can find no specific reference. I shall recompile the Kernel (have the tarballs for both 2.2.18 and 2.4.0 -- shall use the former initially). On this machine (the only one above 300 MHz), I always boot from floppies which I make (using 'make bzdisk') when compiling kernels. Booting is very fast after the bios boot - no pause or invitation to add parameters. I'll need to give 'hdd=ide-scsi' after bios boot and can't find how to pause the automatic 'loading .'. When everything is set up satisfactorily, I would like to add the parameter to the boot floppy - again I've no idea how. I'm proposing to configure the CD-RW in Potato 2.2r0 and the machine is a PC stand-alone with an AMD 500MHz and no real scsi devices. Can someone explain how I can solve my immediate problems. I feel sure I understand the correct kernel configuration requirements - there will be no modules to load. Grateful for help. John. I'm a little confused here. If you need to boot with lilo why don't you just set the machine to boot off the HD with lilo? If you must use a boot floppy and need a prompt what I would do is create a boot floppy with lilo installed. If you need to know how to do that post back and ask. I've never messed with scsi stuff so maybe that is why I'm looking at this and feeling dense. kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: OT: fvwm95 configuration
Sebastiaan wrote: Hello, I want to configure fvwm95 window manager to my own needs. Does anyone know a tool with which I can configure Fvwm95-Buttons and put a background image? I have read some docs about it, but they were not very clear. I know how to adjust the Buttons by editing the config file, but I found nothing about putting an image on the background. IMO it's best if you have separate program to do that, there is number of them, I use chbg (in package of same name). just stick in in the X startup scripts somewhere, I use xdm so I added a line (or three) into /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup: # erik: chbg - begin /usr/bin/chbg -scenario /home/erik/.chbgrc # erik: chbg - end of course, you'd better put the config file (.chbgrc) into some system wide directory not into some user's dir... probably into some /usr/local or /opt subdir. btw fvwm can do everything (AFAIK) that fvwm95 can and is actively developed... you _might_ want to check it out. erik
