Re: Progeny
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Macek wrote: Tak z ciekawości: używa ktoś progeny, jakie wrażenia? Moje próby zciągania progeny z sieci (adresy z www.progeny.com http://www.progeny.com ) nie powiodły się (zbyt wolny transfer). Może ktoś zna inne możliwości zdobycia tej dystrybucji. Uzywalem - IMHO na serwer nie ma sensu (bo potato w zupelnosci wystarczy), na stacji roboczej z kolei to ja uzywam tylko testing (i zrodel z unstable). No chyba ze potrzebujesz jakichs magicznych autokonfiguratorow... Tak czy inaczej - jesli jestes z Wroclawia to mam plytki i moge pozyczyc, jesli nie (ale masz dobry dostep do sieci NASK) to moge Ci to wystawic na jakims ftp. -- Bartek Golenko | Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ~/.signature to help me spread!
Re: Jaki mirror z chello
Piotr Bucki wrote: Jaki mirror debiana jest najlepiej dostepny z chello? Skoro nikt nie wie ta sam znalazlem np: ftp.de.debian.org (Niemcy) transfer okolo 15 wyniosl 37kB/s ftp.at.debian.org (Austria) transfer okolo 15 wynosil 41kB/s Kolejny trafilem przez przypadek, bo miala by Austria, a wyszla Australia ftp.au.debian.org (Australia) transfer okolo 15 wynosil 16kB/s Z Polski okolo godziny 24 transfery nie przekraczaly 6kB/s -- Piotr Bucki e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jaki mirror z chello
no ja np. nie wiem co to jest chello. a lista mirrorow jest dostepna na stronie www.debian.org/mirrors.html czy jakos tak. Artur Górniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IRCNET: ArchieI, Joshy, GJosh irc.openprojects.net: ArchieI [EMAIL PROTECTED] CHANS: #radosc, #debian-pl CHANS: #debian-pl INFO: http://grey.topnet.pl/ICQ: 13638761EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT:Relay de correo no autorizado.
El mar, 05/22/01 may 01, a las 10:20, Angel Vicente Perez decía: Hola a todos y perdon por el OT. Tengo instalado el sendmail para varios usuarios, pero configurado sin SMART_HOST, es decir que soy yo el que contacta con el servidor a entregar. Bueno pues hoy a un usuario, le ha retornado un mensaje por rechazo, con una referencia a esta URL : http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul/enduser.htm La he estado visitando, y segun entiendo, si la direccion IP de tu servidor no esta en sus listas, los mensajes seran rechazados, conclusion: hay que utilizar SMART_HOST. Pues me da a mí que esta es una de esas listas 'negras' de servidores de correo que autorizan relaying a cualquiera... Eso es lo que a mi me parece, porque se envian correos a otros servidores sin ningun problema. En este caso es un servidor en Belgica, pero con otros servidores tambien se han dado problemas, pero no con todos. Por de pronto, he configurado el sendmail con SMART_HOST. Saludos
RE: ttf de Linux a windows
Yo tamibén tenía ese problema ; no aparecian en la lista desplegable y en el peor de los casos aparecía la linea en blanco o en forma de cuadraditos. El problema era el fichero de métrica *.afm que se tiene que generar correctamente una vez que pasas la ttf a Type1. Tras la conversión a Type1 le tienes que arreglar la métrica con afmmakes.ps u otra utilidad similar. Las fuentes entiendo estan bien instaladas; el problema es que cuando llevo el archivo a windows este no reconoce la letra. -Mensaje original- De: Fco. Aguilar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: miércoles 23 de mayo de 2001 2:34 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: ttf de Linux a windows En Tue, May 22, 2001 at 03:49:37PM +0200, Raúl Miró escribió: Jose Fernando Carvajal Vion wrote: He conseguido hacer funcionar las true type en staroffice 5.2. Pero me ocurre que si llevo un fichero .rtf a MSword en NT no reconoce la fuente adecuadamente aunque también este instalada. Est... ¿seguro que desde StarWrite te salen en el menu desplegable de fuentes las fuentes true type que no son de StarOffice? Es que a mi se me da el hecho curioso de que tengo bien instaladas las fuentes true type en Debian (aprovechando las de windows e instaladas las freefont) y resulta que en StarWrite en el menu desplegable de fuentes no aparece ninguna de ellas (aunque si en el cuadradito de fuentes pongo por ejemplo Arial, de windows, la reconoce y aparece el formato en pantalla y la imprime bien) y lo más curioso: si estoy con StarCalc SI que me aparecen todas las fuentes true type del sistema en el menu desplegable... Si es posible. En el manual que viene en .pdf (o venía al menos con la versión anterior del StarOffice) se explica casi con total precision cómo hacerlo. Con eso y algo de info en un buscador puedes tener las fuentes en ese menú. Otra cosa es que funcionen todas bien. De algo más de quinientas fuentes me fallaban unas setenta. En el SOffice hacen esto porque un documento se supone que debe poder imprimirse, y solo salen las fuentes que estan seguros que lo harán. En el resto de aplicaciones, como el editor HTML, salen todas las fuentes que tengas en las X. Además de editar los archivos que te dice, (un autentico coñazo, hay en internet scripts que lo automatizan), de nada te servirá si no añades todas las ttf en el Fontmap (o /etc/gs.Fontmap, en debian). Te ayudaría más, pero desinstalé el StarOffice hace tiempo. Al final me decidí por un vmware con el MsOffice para las emergencias, total, me carga casi igual el sistema. De todas formas, te recomiendo instalar lyx. Francisco Aguilar de Soto Linux reg: 140.527 Debian User -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Qu paquetes .deb hay que instalar de kde 2.1?
Hola amigos. Vuelvo al ataque Tengo KDE 2.1 para Debian. Mi problema est en que son ms de 130 paquetes y no se cual hay que instalar para que funcione este escritorio en modo bsico. Me he econtrado con algn problema. He instalado varios paquetes y el gestor kdm (antes usaba gdm). El problema est en que, ahora este gestor no ve mi escritorio gnome. Adems, cuando arranco el kde2, me aparece una pantalla azul vaca y una sesin de terminal Xterminal, pero no aparece el escritorio. Seguramente es porque me faltan paquetes por instalar. - Me podeis echar una mano para decirme qu paquetes tengo que instalar de kde 2.1 para que funcione? - Que tengo que hacer, despus, para que kdm reconozca tambin mi gnome? Muchas gracias. --- Guillermo de la Hoz Ardiz http://www.protec.es mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bloqueo - donde puedo leer logs?
Tengo algunos bloqueos repentinos al mover el ratón en el Gimp. Sólo puedo hacer CTRL-ALT-SUPR (revuerda la solución mágica de windows) ¿DONDE PUEDO LEER LOGS PARA SABER LO QUE FALLA? Es un portátil HP, con Ximian Gnome 1.2, el gestor del ratón es el que viene por defecto, creo que gpm, y la versión de Gimp y Gimp-perl es la última que hay en Testing.
Re: Más sobre fetchmail
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Fco. Aguilar wrote: poll (pop3.tupadre3.es) with proto POP3 user (login3) there with password (abracadabra) is (user3) here warnings 3600 antispam 571 550 501 554 Me puedes explicar esta opción ? antispam 571 550 501 554 Parece que los códigos son codigos de error de SMTP: 501 Syntax error in parameters or arguments 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable 554 Transaction failed 571 Tenex FTP Problem Pero ni idea realmente de como funciona esto y para que sirve exactamente. Suena interesante porque tengo problema de spam pero necesitaría saber más sobre esto. Un saludo Antonio Castro +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informática (Tienda de Linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | . . . . . . . . . . | +()()()--()()()+ | *** 1.700 sitios clasificados por temas sobre Linux en ***Donde_Linux*** | | http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html | +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Problemas con 3dfx Voddo3 2000 PCI y Xfree 4.03
BUENOS DIAS!!! A ver si alguien me puede echar una mano: Estoy con woody, y tras darme cuenta de que llevaba una semana con Xfree4 instalado, me dispuse a migrar, cambien un par de enlaces, construi el XF86Config-4 y me arranco las X, pero tengo un par de problemas: 1º Cuando estoy en modo texto me sale una pequeña linea de muchos colores en alguna parte de la pantalla, cuando sale, cada poco se redibuja (si hago un clear desaparece y a los pocos segundos aparece) y no sale siempre en el mismo sitio (pero una vez que sale se queda en el mismo sitio hasta que cambio de consola a X y vuelvo). 2º No me funcionan las extensiones OpenGl ni el XVideo. instale el xlibmesa (que desintalo el libmesa3-glide2 ), cuando miro /var/log/Xfree.0.log todo esta bien, me carga las extensiones de video, me carga el GLX, el driver de Vodoo, me dice que tengo 10Mb de texturas, etc... pero si intento usar xine, me da un error de que no pudo iniciar xv y si utilizo glxinfo o cualquier programa opengl, me dice que el opengl no esta acelerado, y me lo ejecuta bajo software. concretamente cuando activo la opcion de debug export LIBGL_DEBUG=1 me dice que no puede abrir un fichero, creo que el problema puede venir por hay, ya que estoy utilizando devfs, y el fichero del DRI me lo crea como /dev/dri/card0 cuando cargo el modulo tdfx.o pero no se como se deberia llamar para hacer un alias (suponiendo que el problema fuese que buscaba el dispositivo por el metodo antiguo). Para terminar tengo xfree a 16bpp, por que a 24 se quejaba de que no iba a poder acelerar. Si alguno me puede echar una mano, se lo agradeceria. Gracias y lamento este pedazo de mensaje, pero no encuentro nada en la documentacion que tengo en el ordenador. A partir de aqui van trozos de los log que me salen: del /var/log/Xfree.0.log (solo lo que creo importante) - (II) LoadModule: GLcore (II) LoadModule: dri (II) LoadModule: drm (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension GLX (II) Loading sub module GLcore (II) LoadModule: tdfx (II) TDFX: Driver for 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3 chipsets: 3dfx Banshee, 3dfx Voodoo3, 3dfx Voodoo5 (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:09:0 (--) Chipset 3dfx Voodoo3 found (WW) System lacks support for changing MTRRs (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 10.99 MB (0): [drm] created tdfx driver at busid PCI:0:9:0 (0): [drm] added 4096 byte SAREA at 0xc21ef000 (0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xc21ef000 to 0x40017000 (0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xe200 (0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel (II) TDFX(0): [drm] Registers = 0xe000 (II) TDFX(0): visual configs initialized (II) TDFX(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) (0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (0): [DRI] installation complete (II) TDFX(0): direct rendering enabled -- La ultima linea dice direct rendering enabled, pero glxinfo dice que no: cuado ejecuto glxinfo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$glxinfo libGL error: dlopen failed: cannot open shared object file: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory libGL error: dlopen failed: cannot open shared object file: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory display: :0.0 screen:0 direct rendering: No server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 - Y cuando ejecuto xine -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$xine This is xine - a free video player v0.4.2 (c) 2000, 2001 by G. Bartsch and the xine project team Allocating 2000 buffers of 4096 bytes in one chunk (alignment = 2048) No extra demux plugins found in /usr/lib/xine/plugins xine_init: demuxer initialized !! no port attributes defined found yv12 format video_out_xv: using Xvideo port 74 for hw scaling *** Settings: * Using X Window System video extension for video output. set_image_format_xv(): width=720, height=405, ratio=3 scaled picture size : 720 x 405 (corr_factor: 0.999323) video_out_xv: reset_xv Hmph - XvShmCreateImage returned a zero size - probably best to try again without Xv - -- A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.WarGames Grettings of _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] REGISTER Lic. Piloto Saludos __ _| |___ __ _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiNUX ISPA #963210 de / _` | / -_) _` | http://pagina.de/alea USER EC-ALE \__,_|_\___\__,_| ICQ#40922797 #66734 Para obtener Llave Publica GnuPGP un mail con subject: enviar clave pub
Re: ¿Qué_paquetes_.deb_hay_que_instalar_de_kde_2.1?
--- Guillermo de la Hoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hola amigos. Vuelvo al ataque Tengo KDE 2.1 para Debian. Mi problema está en que son más de 130 paquetes y no se cual hay que instalar para que funcione este escritorio en modo básico. Me he econtrado con algún problema. He instalado varios paquetes y el gestor kdm (antes usaba gdm). El problema está en que, ahora este gestor no ve mi escritorio gnome. Además, cuando arranco el kde2, me aparece una pantalla azul vacía y una sesión de terminal Xterminal, pero no aparece el escritorio. Seguramente es porque me faltan paquetes por instalar. - ¿Me podeis echar una mano para decirme qué paquetes tengo que instalar de kde 2.1 para que funcione? - ¿Que tengo que hacer, después, para que kdm reconozca también mi gnome? Muchas gracias. --- Guillermo de la Hoz Ardiz http://www.protec.es mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null apt-get install task-kde = ___ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es
automatización ftp
Buenas. Ya sé que es un tema ya comentado por aquí, pero creo que, a lo mejor, puedo introducir una pequeña variación... Ahora mismo, tengo una tarea automatizada con el programa lftp que, con la opción -f archivo, hace lo que pone en ése archivo de manera desatendida. El caso es que quisiera poder pasar a ése archivo algunos parámetros desde un programilla en bash; si en lugar de poner en el archivo que haga un mkdir directorio, pondría un mkdir $var_crea_dir (no sé si me pillais). Ya lo he probado, y no hay manera de que pueda coger variables del entorno (bash). ¿Sabeis si existe algún modo de que pueda hacerlo (ya he probado tmb todo tipo de comillas XD)? También estaría muy interesado en que, en vez de conectar y desconectar cada x segundos, pueda quedar abierto el ftp, y no cerrar la sesión hasta que se termine, tanto si se acaba a los 15 minutos, como si es a la hora. Se muy bien que tengo el expect a mano, pero no lo he tocado nunca, y me gustaría que todo quedara (a ser posible) bajo los auspicios del shell. La cosa podría quedar tal que así... lftp -f archivo donde archivo == open ftp.loquesea.com user mengano mi_passwd mientras que se/no se cumpla la condición X cd directorio/ mkdir directorio1 - esto estaría interesado en que fuera variable cd directorio1 mkdir directorio2 - idem cd directorio2 mput loquesea done Espero haberme explicado mínimamente bien y lo hayais entendido... Muchas gracias por todo. Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets
Re: automatización ftp
El wget tambien hace ftp por comando. Puede que te sirva. Saludos Manuel Trujillo escribió: Buenas. Ya sé que es un tema ya comentado por aquí, pero creo que, a lo mejor, puedo introducir una pequeña variación... Ahora mismo, tengo una tarea automatizada con el programa lftp que, con la opción -f archivo, hace lo que pone en ése archivo de manera desatendida. El caso es que quisiera poder pasar a ése archivo algunos parámetros desde un programilla en bash; si en lugar de poner en el archivo que haga un mkdir directorio, pondría un mkdir $var_crea_dir (no sé si me pillais). Ya lo he probado, y no hay manera de que pueda coger variables del entorno (bash). ¿Sabeis si existe algún modo de que pueda hacerlo (ya he probado tmb todo tipo de comillas XD)? También estaría muy interesado en que, en vez de conectar y desconectar cada x segundos, pueda quedar abierto el ftp, y no cerrar la sesión hasta que se termine, tanto si se acaba a los 15 minutos, como si es a la hora. Se muy bien que tengo el expect a mano, pero no lo he tocado nunca, y me gustaría que todo quedara (a ser posible) bajo los auspicios del shell. La cosa podría quedar tal que así... lftp -f archivo donde archivo == open ftp.loquesea.com user mengano mi_passwd mientras que se/no se cumpla la condición X cd directorio/ mkdir directorio1 - esto estaría interesado en que fuera variable cd directorio1 mkdir directorio2 - idem cd directorio2 mput loquesea done Espero haberme explicado mínimamente bien y lo hayais entendido... Muchas gracias por todo. Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: apt-get -f install
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 07:08:32PM -0300, esteban agulera wrote: hola mi problema es que tengo instalado libqt2.2-mt pero debian no me lo reconoce. trato de instalar avifile y me dice que libqt no esta instalado, pero el mismo. esta. bueno lo descargo el avi lo instalo con dpkg -i y me dice que falta libqt como hago para arreglar esto, porque ademas no puedo usar mas el apt-get porque me da como resultado unmet En realidad puede que te falten sólo las libqt2-mt-dev (aunque tb puede ser que use las libqt2 a secas, sin el mt, y las libqt2-dev), prueba primero con las libqt2-mt-dev. -- ¿Y saben aquel que diu?...el windows 2000 no se me ha colgado nunca. - Debian GNU/Linux Sid Linux User #162799 - - PGP Pub Key en pgp.rediris.es ID:0x64438485 - - marmolejo at able.es ICQ: 65833679 - pgp7kfI8Rgt0P.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problemas al compilar 2.4.4 en woody
No lo entiendo... con ese mismo hardware trabajo normalmete, y he compilado otras veces sin problemas... Si os sirv, es una placa Soltek con un AMD K6-II/500 y 512 de ram... On Wednesday 23 May 2001 15:48, Binarius Z wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 huy eso es grave. la signal 11 durante la compilacion del kernel esta asociada a errores de hardware. da algo mas de informacion =8) binarius -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOwu/RlzMPLGRvEDBEQLyZgCeKAVfIqWmNFEvbxO3b9TgnvcwkpwAoPTT zzMK3/gAYhC+BJE146Vc/MZO =cYED -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Problemas al compilar 2.4.4 en woody
El Mié 23 May 2001 16:30, Jaume Sabater escribió: enas. Toy intentando compilar el 2.4.4, y me da un error del gcc, donde sea de la compilacion... El error es ese: gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 Huelga decir que he reinstalado el gcc, pero sigue igual... Alguna idea? --- Jaume Sabater Como no mandes mas información, no sé que puede ocurrir
No funciona apache + php
Hola, he instalado php4 y quiero hacerlo funcionar sobre apache. El problema es que el navegador (he probado con varios) no abre las páginas .php, en lugar de eso me pregunta si quiero salvarlas a disco, y si lo hago, no me guarda la página interpretada, sino la original con el código php. Sé que es un problema local porque puedo abrir perfectamente las páginas .php de otros servidores. He seguido las instrucciones de instalación que da PHP y en httpd.conf tengo las líneas: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so AddType application/x-httpd-php4 .php y el error.log de apache dice: [Wed May 23 14:14:29 2001] [notice] Apache/1.3.19 (Unix) Debian/GNU PHP/4.0.5 configured -- resuming normal operations lo que me hace suponer que carga el módulo correctamente. La única diferencia (que no es poca :) entre los pasos que he seguido y los indicados en la documentación de PHP es que yo no he compilado las fuentes del software, he instalado los binarios. Uso sid, con apache 1.3.19 y php 4.0.5. ¿Qué estoy haciendo mal? Gracias anticipadas. Un Saludo Cesar ___ Consigue tu e-mail gratuito TERRA.ES Haz clic en http://www.terra.es/correo/ httpd.conf Description: Binary data
Re: problemas con un ratón ps2
El Tue, May 22, 2001 at 07:51:31PM +0200, José Pelegrín garabateó: El 22 May 2001 18:22:11 +, Diego Martínez Castañeda escribió: Este es el mío y me funciona atado al puerto serie con un ratón con ruedecilla e inalámbrico: no nos hemos entendido :). Yo quiero que funcione en el puerto ps2 y no lo hace... saludos diego -- Diego Martínez Castañeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Responsable Técnico CDSAT Valnalón - C e n t r o S A T V a l n a l ó n Ciudad Tecnológica Valnalón C/ Hornos Altos, s/n 33930 La Felguera - Langreo Asturias - España Tel. +34 985 69 22 27 (ext 413) Fax. +34 985 68 31 93 Videoconferencia +34 985 67 87 58 Web: http://www.astursat.net E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No funciona apache + php
El Mié 23 May 2001 17:22, C_AMADOR escribió: Hola, he instalado php4 y quiero hacerlo funcionar sobre apache. El problema es que el navegador (he probado con varios) no abre las páginas .php, en lugar de eso me pregunta si quiero salvarlas a disco, y si lo hago, no me guarda la página interpretada, sino la original con el código php. Me imagino que el servidor apache está corriendo en tu áquina por que sino vamos listos. Sé que es un problema local porque puedo abrir perfectamente las páginas .php de otros servidores. He seguido las instrucciones de instalación que da PHP y en httpd.conf tengo las líneas: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so AddType application/x-httpd-php4 .php La linea AddType application/x-httpd-php4 .php deberia estar en srm.conf aunque yo no la tengo, lo que hago es declara en mime.types la linea application/x-httpd-php4 .php que te deberia meter por defecto. Otra cosa, y sin ofender, ¿tienes el codigo puesto con la etiqueta ? codigo..? ?
Re: Problemas al compilar 2.4.4 en woody
* [20010523 12:29] Jaume Sabater ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) decia: enas. Toy intentando compilar el 2.4.4, y me da un error del gcc, donde sea de la compilacion... El error es ese: gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 Huelga decir que he reinstalado el gcc, pero sigue igual... Alguna idea? DOH! El famoso signal 11. Como esta tu hard? tu micro calienta? las memorias podrian llegar a estar jodidas. En fin fijate aca: http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ Espero que te ayude. Saludos -- Daniel H. Perez a veces Tango [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fui lo que crei, soy lo que esta pasando (Charly Garcia) Debian GNU/Linux Sid (2.4.2) Usuario Reg. N. 85920 GnuPG Public Key 0x98ECB388
Re: problemas con un ratón ps2
El Mié 23 May 2001 19:41, Diego Martínez Castañeda escribió: El Tue, May 22, 2001 at 07:51:31PM +0200, José Pelegrín garabateó: El 22 May 2001 18:22:11 +, Diego Martínez Castañeda escribió: Este es el mío y me funciona atado al puerto serie con un ratón con ruedecilla e inalámbrico: no nos hemos entendido :). Yo quiero que funcione en el puerto ps2 y no lo hace... saludos diego El dispositivo para un puerto ps2 es el /dev/psaux Configurando las X para que el ratón funcione con ese dispositivo vale. Si tienes el gpm instalado el ratón en las X se te va a colgar. tienes que poner este caso el dispositivo /dev/gpmdata, y asi te funcionará en ambos (consola y X) sin problema.
Re: problemas con un ratón ps2
Creo que tienes que instalar con dselect el paquete gpm (si no lo tienes instalado ya) Despues ejecutas: gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -Rms3 - Original Message - From: Diego Martínez Castañeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lista de correo de debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:41 PM Subject: Re: problemas con un ratón ps2 El Tue, May 22, 2001 at 07:51:31PM +0200, José Pelegrín garabateó: El 22 May 2001 18:22:11 +, Diego Martínez Castañeda escribió: Este es el mío y me funciona atado al puerto serie con un ratón con ruedecilla e inalámbrico: no nos hemos entendido :). Yo quiero que funcione en el puerto ps2 y no lo hace... saludos diego -- Diego Martínez Castañeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Responsable Técnico CDSAT Valnalón - C e n t r o S A T V a l n a l ó n Ciudad Tecnológica Valnalón C/ Hornos Altos, s/n 33930 La Felguera - Langreo Asturias - España Tel. +34 985 69 22 27 (ext 413) Fax. +34 985 68 31 93 Videoconferencia +34 985 67 87 58 Web: http://www.astursat.net E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: No funciona apache + php
He seguido las instrucciones de instalación que da PHP y en httpd.conf tengo las líneas: LoadModule php4_module /usr/li AddType application/x-httpd-php4 .php La linea AddType application/x-httpd-php4 .php deberia estar en srm.conf aunque yo no la tengo, lo que hago es declara en mime.types la linea application/x-httpd-php4 .php que te deberia meter por defecto. En principio la tenia en srm.conf, como dices. Pero he leido que es igual meterla en httpd.conf, incluso en algunos casos se aconseja eliminar srm.conf totalmente y pasar todo su contenido a httpd.conf. De cualquier forma también he probado a meter esa linea que dices en /etc/mime.types con el mismo resultado. Otra cosa, y sin ofender, ¿tienes el codigo puesto con la etiqueta ? codigo..? ? No ofendes por preguntar ;) En realidad uso ?php ... ?, pero incluso aunque no meta código php en el fichero.php el navegador actua igual. Un .php si código php deberia funcionar igualmente. Muchas gracias :) Un Saludo Cesar ___ Consigue tu e-mail gratuito TERRA.ES Haz clic en http://www.terra.es/correo/
ayuda por favor (TCL)
Buenas. He encontrado lo que parece la panacea; el expect (para realizar el tema de los ftp's desatendidos y además, realizar tareas que haría a golpe de selescrí). El problema reside en que, lo único que me queda por averiguar, es cómo daemons puedo leer la entrada de teclado (ala read del shell, o scanf del C), para asignar el valor a una variable y tirar millas... ¿Podría alguien ayudarme y decírmelo, plis? Me estoy pateando documentación por Inet, pero en ningún sitio lo pone (o yo no lo veo ¡!). Sólo me queda ésto para dejar hecho un trabajillo de esos guapos, que siendo tontos como yo pispo, te quitan un peso de encima que ya quisiera el Atlas ése, ya... :))) Gracias por todo. Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets
Re: lilo sobre un ata100 en una asus a7v
No seria append=ide2=0x8400, 0x8002 On Wednesday 23 May 2001 18:22, roger wrote: hola, llevo dias intentando configurar el lilo para que funcione cuando pinxo el hdd en uno de los sockets ata100 que lleva la placamadre a7v. si arranco con el comando: rescue root=/dev/hde8 linux ide2=8400, 8002 puedo arracar perfectamente i usar el disco duro sin problemas, pero si meto un append en el lilo.conf como el que sigue append=ide2=8400, 8002 i lanzo el lilo no recibo ningun msg de error o de warning, pero al rebotar la maquina me aparece en pantalla algo tal que asi: L 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 (si desconecto un ata33 que tengo en los ides normales el 02 passa a 01) alguna idea? alguien que haya solucionado el problema? estoy con el kernel 2.2.19 gracias por adelantado
Re: No funciona apache + php
El Mié 23 May 2001 18:27, C_AMADOR escribió: He seguido las instrucciones de instalación que da PHP y en httpd.conf tengo las líneas: LoadModule php4_module /usr/li AddType application/x-httpd-php4 .php SORRy aquí no hay . delante de php es más deberías de tenerla definida por defecto si has instalado los paque tes que te vienen con la distribución. que me imagino por la versión que has comentado es la sid. A mí me funciono a la primera y sin problemas. Es decir application/x-httpd-php4php Si estas compilando andaté con mucho ojo con las opciones. Compilar el php4 para que funcionase me trajo dolores de cabeza. Procura compilar todo como módulos separados, yo no consequí que me funcinase a lo bruto. Me acuerdo que toqué algo en el php.ini, pero eso me parece que viene en el FAQ de la página de php (http://www.php.net). Si lo tienes insalado con los paquetes de la distribución correspondiente la solución drástica que tienes es desistalar apache y php con apt remove paquete primero y luego con dpkg --purge paquete Luego los vuelves a instalar y comentas la linea Loadmodule, y rearrancas el apache en /etc/init.d/./apache restart. A mí siempre me ha funcionado a la primera y sin problemas, lo tengo funcionando en slink (esto ya no), potato, woody y sid. Lo de compilar fue porque una vez lo instalé en una Slack. No se si te ayudaré, pero lo he intentado :)
Re: Más sobre fetchmail
Solucionado. Sólo he tenido que definir a qué usuario de Linux ( o sea a mí.. :-))) le coresponden esos mensajes en el .fetchmailrc. Gracias de nuevo. -- __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ Nº 31089968 No es oro todo lo que reluce ni toda la gente errante anda perdida... J.R.R. Tolkien El Señor de los Anillos __
sources.list para kde en woody
enas cuales son los sources.list para bajarse con el apt el kde2 en el woody? He encontrado los de potato, pero no los de woody... Algun cablecillo?
Re: sources.list para kde en woody
El Mié 23 May 2001 20:30, Jaume Sabater escribió: enas cuales son los sources.list para bajarse con el apt el kde2 en el woody? He encontrado los de potato, pero no los de woody... Algun cablecillo? Que yo sepa el KDE2 está incluido en woody
Re: No funciona apache + php
application/x-httpd-php4 .php SORRy aquí no hay . delante de php es más deberías de tenerla definida por defecto si has instalado los paque tes que te vienen con la distribución. que me imagino por la versión que has comentado es la sid. A mí me funciono a la primera y sin problemas. Es decir application/x-httpd-php4 php Ya está arreglado. El problema era precisamente ese, que ponia application/x-httpd-php4 y el CUATRO es precisamente lo que no hay que poner :) Y efectivamete, en mime.types esta definida por defecto, pero yo la modifique añadiendo el dichoso 4. Muchas gracias ;-) Un saludo César ___ Consigue tu e-mail gratuito TERRA.ES Haz clic en http://www.terra.es/correo/
Re: ssh no me acepta conexiones
marmolejo, lunes 21 de mayo de 2001 a la(s) 12:28:18 +0200: Te mando mi sshd_config que funciona, cambia algo en cuanto al syslogfacility y no tengo tanta cosa de group allows y tal: No fulula, mismos síntomas. -- David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Linux Registered User #87069 pgpuf91H3wtMs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problemas con un ratn ps2
Eugenio Muoz Doyague, miércoles 23 de mayo de 2001 a la(s) 18:10:57 +0200: Si tienes el gpm instalado el ratón en las X se te va a colgar. tienes que poner este caso el dispositivo /dev/gpmdata, y asi te funcionará en ambos (consola y X) sin problema. $ ls -l /dev/gpmdata ls: /dev/gpmdata: No existe el fichero o el directorio Me funciona bien... -- David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Linux Registered User #87069 pgpp9LuUhhAGo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ssh no me acepta conexiones
digo yo... no hay que abrirlo en el /etc/hosts.allow? eso si, lo instale en un proliant, de la misma potato que las demas maquinas, y tampoco fonaba... misterio... por lo menos no era imprescindible On Wednesday 23 May 2001 20:21, Hue-Bond wrote: marmolejo, lunes 21 de mayo de 2001 a la(s) 12:28:18 +0200: Te mando mi sshd_config que funciona, cambia algo en cuanto al syslogfacility y no tengo tanta cosa de group allows y tal: No fulula, mismos síntomas. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; charset=iso-8859-15; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description:
man, whatis, apropos...(listado de entradas disponibles)
Hola: ¿Hay alguna forma de obtener un listado de todas las entradas que tienen una página man asociada? De momento había pensado en emplear la base de datos del comando whatis, pero no se ajusta exactamente a lo que busco (pues no está garantizado que me proporcione la lista completa en cualquier sistema). ¿Donde puedo conseguir el código fuente del comando man? Muchas gracias y un saludo. Quique
Preguntas varias ...
Hola a todos, tengo varios problemas que no se como solucionar: 1) El gpm no se lleva bien con las X4 ¿alguna solucion? 2) Tengo un script que quiero que se ejecute como usuario cuando me conecte a internet, para lo que lo pongo en /etc/ppp/ip-up pero se me ejecuta como usuario, incluso poniendo al principio su user, que no sé si servirá de algo. ¿Cómo lo puedo hacer? GRACIAS -- · .--. _ · · |o_o | Daniel Pecos Martínez / \· · |:_/ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | () | · ·// \ \ Web: http://www.dpecosm.f2s.com| \_/· · (| | )\· · /'\_ _/`\Nº Usuario Linux: #175518\ · · \___)=(___/ICQ# 27218745 debian · · · · GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/5B75E56F · · Key fingerprint = 8ED7 C3E0 7737 A5C0 8321 7F95 2DE4 86BE 5B75 E56F · pgpm09duET7Mn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ha dejado de funcionar el servidor de kde?
El Mié 23 May 2001 23:27, Lluis Vilanova escribió: Hola, tengo en el sources las dos lineas soguientes para kde: deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto optional deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional y desde ya hace un tiempo han dejado de funcionar (contesta siempre con un timeout), es que ya no hay que utilizar esas lineas? que lineas teneis puestas? no es que utilize mucho kde (uso xfce como wm), pero ya que tengo paquetes instalados, al menos tenerlos actualizados, pues me gusta curiosear... Gracias por adelantado Prueba este mirror. Además es bastante rápido: deb ftp://ftp.linux.ee/pub/kde.tdyc.com/debian/ potato main crypto optional
Re: ssh no me acepta conexiones
* [20010523 21:09] Hue-Bond ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) decia: Jaume Sabater, miércoles 23 de mayo de 2001 a la(s) 21:41:16 +0200: digo yo... no hay que abrirlo en el /etc/hosts.allow? sshd recibe la conexión, así que el problema no es de hosts.allow ni nada de eso. En el syslog me sale: May 23 23:51:13 genus sshd[20256]: refused connect from 195.55.160.33 Hola Me parece que el tcp wrapper se puede usar desde tu programa con una libreria con lo cual que el programa reciba la conexion no quiere decir nada. Por las dudas proba. Saludos -- Daniel H. Perez a veces Tango [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fui lo que crei, soy lo que esta pasando (Charly Garcia) Debian GNU/Linux Sid (2.4.4) Usuario Reg. N. 85920 GnuPG Public Key 0x98ECB388
Re: Más sobre fetchmail
En Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:25:07AM +0200, Antonio Castro escribió: Me puedes explicar esta opción ? antispam 571 550 501 554 Parece que los códigos son codigos de error de SMTP: 501 Syntax error in parameters or arguments 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable 554 Transaction failed 571 Tenex FTP Problem Pero ni idea realmente de como funciona esto y para que sirve exactamente. Suena interesante porque tengo problema de spam pero necesitaría saber más sobre esto. En realidad esa opción creo que solo funciona con servidores IMAP, para bajar solo las cabeceras de mensajes marcados como defectuosos por cualquier razón en el servidor al que accedes. (man fetchmail sección spam filtering). De todas formas, podrías probar el animail de Juanjo Alvarez, que permite el uso de filtros muy cómodamente, e incluso puedes encontrar filterfiles ya hechos. http://www.clickeas.com/linux/animail.html Como él dice, es un fetchmail con featuritis. Creo que hay filtros en la web de escomposlinux. Francisco Aguilar de Soto Linux reg: 140.527 Debian User
Re: En undran
debian-consultants@lists.debian.org vore nog en lämpligare plats att diskutera detta på, fast då på engelska. Grunden för ett sådant samarbete är att man fungerar och trivs tillsammans. Att man liknande behov som man vill diskutera eller lösa. Exempel på samarbe kunde vara gemensamma annonser, gemensammt deltagande på mässor, dela på större jobb, studera varandras svagheter/styrkor och se till att man inte onödigtvis konkurrerar med varandra, rekommondera varandra, mm. Hälsningar, /Karl --- Karl HammarAspö Data [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lilla Aspö 2340 0173 140 57 Nätverk S-742 94 Östhammar 010 270 26 67 PC/Sun datorer SwedenLinux/Unix konsulting --- From: Tomas Sanchez Romani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: En undran Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:23:51 +0200 Hej Debianer! Ursäkta meddelandets utanför-ämnet-karaktär. En eventuell eldkastning räcker, tack. Jag och en kompis har funderingar på att starta en samarbetsring (eller något mer beständigt) för egna företagare. Vi är främst intresserade av att hitta personer som håller på med fri programvara (ni) och som är anarkister (ni?). Idén befinner sig fortfarande på just idéstadiet, tag kontakt med mig om du känner för att se vad vi kan göra tillsammans. anarkikärlek, tomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Är potato kompatibel med ATA-100 diskar ?
Är potato kompatibel med ATA-100 diskar (kernel 2.2pre18)? -- MVH Andreas Berglund Företagsdata i Åhus AB Tel:044-289465 Fax:044-242550 http://www.fdab.se http://www.torget.fdab.se
configuracao xf86free
Oi pessoal, Ao configurar o xf86config conforme instrucao do Gustavo, percebi que o problema era no configurar o mouse pois sempre coloquei /dev/mouse , mas guando coloquei /dev/ttys01 consequi fazer funcionar, soh ocorreu o seguinte ao entrar em modo grafico ele pede senha e password, depois fica um"x" no meio da tela e trava nao aceita mas nada , jah resetei . creio que coloquei o mouse em uma COM errada, mas como faco para mudar, pois o teclado ao que parece nao responde. terei que instalar novamente o Debian 2.2.17 por favor me ajude sds Carlucio
Re: configuracao xf86free
Em Wed, 23 May 2001 09:05:54 -0300
tropical colchoes ltda [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
Oi pessoal,
Olá =)
era no configurar o mouse pois sempre coloquei /dev/mouse , mas guando
coloquei
/dev/ttys01 consequi fazer funcionar, soh ocorreu o seguinte ao entrar em modo
grafico
ele pede senha e password, depois fica um x no meio da tela e trava nao
aceita
mas
nada , jah resetei . creio que coloquei o mouse em uma COM errada, mas como
faco
para mudar, pois o teclado ao que parece nao responde.
isso aconteceu comigo ontem quando meu mouse PS/2 foi pro saco subitamente,
coloquei meu velho serial e não desconectei o ps/2, só deu pau... a tty
que você tá usando parece estar errada, que tipo de mouse é o seu?
seu mouse deve estar na /dev/ttyS0 igual o meu se for serial...
terei que instalar novamente o Debian 2.2.17
2.2.17 é a versão do kernel, não do Debian, o Debian está na 2.2r3,
provavelmente você está usando a 2.2r0 que veio na arquivo linux...
NUNCA reinstale sem necessidade =), dê boot no CD, tire o gdm (ou
o xdm se for o caso) da inicialização (remova o link de /etc/rc2.d),
dê boot no Debian, mude a configuração do mouse e use 'startx' para
testar... quando estiver bom reabilite o {g,x}dm linkando
/etc/init.d/gdm em /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm...
[]s!
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Deletar partição ext2--fat16
Olá pessoal. Há algum tempo atrás precisei intalar em minha máquina o Red Hat. Já tinha instalado o Debin/Gnu e o Rwindows. Meu HD é de 3.2G e estava meio a meio. Então utilizei o fips para fazer uma nova partição, minha tabela de partição está assim: Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 847 cylinders Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 280 1128928+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda2 408 409 8064 83 Linux /dev/hda3 410 847 17660165 Extended /dev/hda4 281 407512064 83 Linux /dev/hda5 410 426 68512+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 427 847 1697440+ 83 Linux Agora não estou precisando do Red Hat, descobri a Debian/GNU e mais que suficiente para mim depois que vi KDE2 E Ximian-GNOME rodando nela, e estou precisando de espaço em disco para meu Rwindows. Quero tirar a partição /dev/hda4 e colocar o sistema de arquivos fat16 nela. Alguém pode me ajudar? Agradeço desde já. Fabiano. -- //|||\\///|||//|||\\ || /\ || Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r2|| _ || || /@@\|| Linux lottar 2.2.18pre21 || () || ||/(__)\ ||Pentium 200 MMX 40Mb||/(_)\|| || ^ ^|| Fabiano Manoel de Andrade ||_/ \_|| || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || \\|||//\\\|||\\|||//
Re: Deletar partição ext2--fat16
#mkfs.fat16 /dev/hda4 caso nao possua este utilitario, use o apt-get (!!DEBIAN Rlz!!!) ei, boa escolha!! [ ]'s -- Eduardo Gonçalves V. da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] Prolan Soluções Integradas S/A -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Debian GNU/Linux Distro when code matters more than comercials - Original Message - From: Fabiano Manoel de Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: Deletar partição ext2--fat16 Olá pessoal. Há algum tempo atrás precisei intalar em minha máquina o Red Hat. Já tinha instalado o Debin/Gnu e o Rwindows. Meu HD é de 3.2G e estava meio a meio. Então utilizei o fips para fazer uma nova partição, minha tabela de partição está assim: Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 847 cylinders Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 280 1128928+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda2 408 409 8064 83 Linux /dev/hda3 410 847 17660165 Extended /dev/hda4 281 407512064 83 Linux /dev/hda5 410 426 68512+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 427 847 1697440+ 83 Linux Agora não estou precisando do Red Hat, descobri a Debian/GNU e mais que suficiente para mim depois que vi KDE2 E Ximian-GNOME rodando nela, e estou precisando de espaço em disco para meu Rwindows. Quero tirar a partição /dev/hda4 e colocar o sistema de arquivos fat16 nela. Alguém pode me ajudar? Agradeço desde já. Fabiano. -- //|||\\///|||//|||\\ || /\ || Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r2|| _ || || /@@\|| Linux lottar 2.2.18pre21 || () || ||/(__)\ ||Pentium 200 MMX 40Mb||/(_)\|| || ^ ^|| Fabiano Manoel de Andrade ||_/ \_|| || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || \\|||//\\\|||\\|||//
libXaw.so.7
All Estou procurando essa biblioteca para poder executar um software e ate agora nao encontrei. Fui no site do debian em procurei por algum pacote de nome libXaw e nao encontrei nenhum. Fui no site da freshmeat e tambem nao encontrei. Alguem teria ideia de onde eh que eu poderia encontrar ?!?!? [ ]'s *** .''`. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * : :' : * www.hackhour.com.br * `. `'` * Hack Hour Inc. * `- *** Debian
Re: Deletar partição ext2--fat16
On Wed, 23 May 2001 16:13:01 -0300 Eduardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #mkfs.fat16 /dev/hda4 Funcionou, obrigado. Mas alguém sabe como fazer o Rwindows enchergar novamente este espaço no meu HD? Sei que esta é uma lista da Debian/GNU linux mas estou precisando. Fabiano. caso nao possua este utilitario, use o apt-get (!!DEBIAN Rlz!!!) ei, boa escolha!! [ ]'s -- Eduardo Gonçalves V. da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] Prolan Soluções Integradas S/A -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Debian GNU/Linux Distro when code matters more than comercials - Original Message - From: Fabiano Manoel de Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: Deletar partição ext2--fat16 Olá pessoal. Há algum tempo atrás precisei intalar em minha máquina o Red Hat. Já tinha instalado o Debin/Gnu e o Rwindows. Meu HD é de 3.2G e estava meio a meio. Então utilizei o fips para fazer uma nova partição, minha tabela de partição está assim: Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 847 cylinders Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 280 1128928+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda2 408 409 8064 83 Linux /dev/hda3 410 847 17660165 Extended /dev/hda4 281 407512064 83 Linux /dev/hda5 410 426 68512+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 427 847 1697440+ 83 Linux Agora não estou precisando do Red Hat, descobri a Debian/GNU e mais que suficiente para mim depois que vi KDE2 E Ximian-GNOME rodando nela, e estou precisando de espaço em disco para meu Rwindows. Quero tirar a partição /dev/hda4 e colocar o sistema de arquivos fat16 nela. Alguém pode me ajudar? Agradeço desde já. Fabiano. -- //|||\\///|||//|||\\ || /\ || Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r2|| _ || || /@@\|| Linux lottar 2.2.18pre21 || () || ||/(__)\ ||Pentium 200 MMX 40Mb||/(_)\|| || ^ ^|| Fabiano Manoel de Andrade ||_/ \_|| || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || \\|||//\\\|||\\|||// -- //|||\\///|||//|||\\ || /\ || Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r2|| _ || || /@@\|| Linux lottar 2.2.18pre21 || () || ||/(__)\ ||Pentium 200 MMX 40Mb||/(_)\|| || ^ ^|| Fabiano Manoel de Andrade ||_/ \_|| || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || \\|||//\\\|||\\|||//
Re: libXaw.so.7
On Wed, 23 May 2001 17:36:40 -0300 cosmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All Estou procurando essa biblioteca para poder executar um software e ate agora nao encontrei. Fui no site do debian em procurei por algum pacote de nome libXaw e nao encontrei nenhum. Fui no site da freshmeat e tambem nao encontrei. Alguem teria ideia de onde eh que eu poderia encontrar ?!?!? Cosmo, Verifiquei esse resultado em uma das maquinas q rodam debian por aqui, eh stable. maryjane:~# apt-cache search libxaw xaw3d - cute 3D replacement for the X Athena widget set [libc5 compat.] xaw3dg-dev - Xaw3d widget set development package xaw3dg - cute 3D replacement for the X Athena widget set bom acredito q para vc, por ai um: apt-get update apt-get install xaw3dg deve resolver... no maximo, pegar tb o xaw3dg-dev.Atente q o xaw3d somente (sem o g ao lado) eh libc5 compativel! -- _| _| _| _| _|_|_|_|_| Gustavo R. Franco_|_|_|_|_| _| _| a.k.a _Stratus [EMAIL PROTECTED]_| _| _|_|_|_|_| (See Debian GNU/Linux at: www.debian.org) _|_|_|_|_| _| _| _| _| pgpOu3MTvtPXF.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: libXaw.so.7
Olas, From: Gustavo Franco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 23 May 2001 17:36:40 -0300 cosmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Estou procurando essa biblioteca para poder executar um software e ate agora nao encontrei. Fui no site do debian em procurei por algum pacote de nome libXaw e nao encontrei nenhum. Fui no site da freshmeat e tambem nao encontrei. Alguem teria ideia de onde eh que eu poderia encontrar ?!?!? Verifiquei esse resultado em uma das maquinas q rodam debian por aqui, eh stable. maryjane:~# apt-cache search libxaw xaw3d - cute 3D replacement for the X Athena widget set [libc5 compat.] xaw3dg-dev - Xaw3d widget set development package xaw3dg - cute 3D replacement for the X Athena widget set bom acredito q para vc, por ai um: apt-get update apt-get install xaw3dg deve resolver... no maximo, pegar tb o xaw3dg-dev.Atente q o xaw3d somente (sem o g ao lado) eh libc5 compativel! a libXaw.so.7 e a libXaw que vem dentro do proprio XFree86 4.0.x. AFAIK, a xaw3dg e um substituto para a libXaw.so.6 (que vinha com o XFree86 3.x) Para usar a libXaw.so.7, certifique-se que tenhas o XFree86 4.0.x instalado na tua maquina. []'s -- Rodrigo
Processos.
Olá pessoal.. Alguém sabe se tem meios de "esconder" um processo dos usuários de uma shell, quem não apareça no 'ps'? Se alguém souber por favor ajude-me! []s Jeandre Uchoa.
Re: Processos.
On Wed, 23 May 2001 19:39:13 -0300 Jeandre Uchoa Sidon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olá pessoal.. Alguém sabe se tem meios de esconder um processo dos usuários de uma shell, quem não apareça no 'ps'? Se alguém souber por favor ajude-me! []s Jeandre Uchoa. Oi, qualquer usuario pode listar todos os processos com um ps devido ao 'livre acesso' ao /proc, pode-se restringir o acesso ao /proc patcheando o kernel (e habilitando tal opcao) com o openwall(www.openwall.org). A minha informacao pode ser confirmada utilizando-se: strace ps O David Spreen fez um add do lids e de outros e criou um harden semelhante ao que existe na distribuicao SuSE, no seu caso vale a pena se vc utiliza a serie 2.2 da kernel do contrario pegue o src da kernel que vc esta utilizando de outra serie e va em openwall.org e verifique se existe patch para a kernel em questao. no /etc/apt/sources.lists adicione: deb http://netzwurm.cc/debian/ unstable main deb-src http://netzwurm.cc/debian/ unstable main apt-cache search harden # de uma olhada apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19-harden apt-get install lisadm-2-2.19 Se alguem tiver alguma ideia melhor do q patchear o kernel gostaria de saber tb! Acredito que via modulo tb possa ser feito, mas nao tenho tempo para verificar o que teria que ser feito a nivel de syscalls para isso! -- _| _| _| _| _|_|_|_|_| Gustavo R. Franco_|_|_|_|_| _| _| a.k.a _Stratus [EMAIL PROTECTED]_| _| _|_|_|_|_| (See Debian GNU/Linux at: www.debian.org) _|_|_|_|_| _| _| _| _| pgp9WcZd06vd8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Processos.
Olah! A solucao que apresento eh horrivel, mas quebra o galho. Alem disso, a maioria dos usuarios naum vai checar o ps mesmo. Consiste na criacao de um wrapper para o ps que exclui ativamente com o grep -v o processo em questao. Aih vai: ---8888 # mv /bin/ps /bin/ps.bin # echo #!/bin/bash /bin/ps # echo /bin/ps.bin | grep -v processo_escondido_1 /bin/ps repita o comando anterior para tantos processos quantos desejado # chmod a+x /bin/ps ---8888 Eh claro... isso naum funciona para o /proc. Eh um quebra galho. Usuarios avancados naum se contentarao com a saida do ps. Para o usuario medio, nem vai se importar. []s Pablo Em Qua 23 Mai 2001 21:01, Gustavo Franco escreveu: | On Wed, 23 May 2001 19:39:13 -0300 | | Jeandre Uchoa Sidon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Olá pessoal.. | | | Alguém sabe se tem meios de esconder um | processo dos usuários de uma shell, quem não apareça no 'ps'? Se | alguém souber por favor ajude-me! | | []s | | Jeandre Uchoa. | | Oi, | | qualquer usuario pode listar todos os processos com um ps devido ao | 'livre acesso' ao /proc, pode-se restringir o acesso ao /proc | patcheando o kernel (e habilitando tal opcao) com o | openwall(www.openwall.org). | | A minha informacao pode ser confirmada utilizando-se: | strace ps | | O David Spreen fez um add do lids e de outros e criou um harden | semelhante ao que existe na distribuicao SuSE, no seu caso vale a | pena se vc utiliza a serie 2.2 da kernel do contrario pegue o src | da kernel que vc esta utilizando de outra serie e va em | openwall.org e verifique se existe patch para a kernel em questao. | | no /etc/apt/sources.lists adicione: | deb http://netzwurm.cc/debian/ unstable main | deb-src http://netzwurm.cc/debian/ unstable main | | apt-cache search harden # de uma olhada | apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19-harden | apt-get install lisadm-2-2.19 | | Se alguem tiver alguma ideia melhor do q patchear o kernel gostaria | de saber tb! Acredito que via modulo tb possa ser feito, mas nao | tenho tempo para verificar o que teria que ser feito a nivel de | syscalls para isso! Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; charset=iso-8859-1; name=Anexo: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: -- Pablo Lorenzzoni (Spectra) [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can get my public GnuPG key at search.keyserver.net (Key ID: 268A084D) Albert Einstein: Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
Re: Deletar partição ext2--fat16
Fabiano, Tive este problema uma vez e infelizmente foi devido a uma limitação no DOS, me parece que ele tem problemas ao reconhecer a última partição primária caso esteja particionada após todas as lógicas. O problema (infelizmente) só foi resolvido reparticionando o disco e jogando a partição DOS para hda2 :-( Provavelmente este bug nunca será corrigido pela M$, até hoje o suporte a criação de mais de 1 partição primária é inexistente no fdisk... provavelmente tem a ver com este limite Fabiano Manoel de Andrade wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2001 16:13:01 -0300 Eduardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #mkfs.fat16 /dev/hda4 Funcionou, obrigado. Mas alguém sabe como fazer o Rwindows enchergar novamente este espaço no meu HD? Sei que esta é uma lista da Debian/GNU linux mas estou precisando. Fabiano. caso nao possua este utilitario, use o apt-get (!!DEBIAN Rlz!!!) ei, boa escolha!! [ ]'s -- Eduardo Gonçalves V. da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] Prolan Soluções Integradas S/A -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Debian GNU/Linux Distro when code matters more than comercials - Original Message - From: Fabiano Manoel de Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: Deletar partição ext2--fat16 Olá pessoal. Há algum tempo atrás precisei intalar em minha máquina o Red Hat. Já tinha instalado o Debin/Gnu e o Rwindows. Meu HD é de 3.2G e estava meio a meio. Então utilizei o fips para fazer uma nova partição, minha tabela de partição está assim: Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 847 cylinders Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 280 1128928+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda2 408 409 8064 83 Linux /dev/hda3 410 847 17660165 Extended /dev/hda4 281 407512064 83 Linux /dev/hda5 410 426 68512+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 427 847 1697440+ 83 Linux Agora não estou precisando do Red Hat, descobri a Debian/GNU e mais que suficiente para mim depois que vi KDE2 E Ximian-GNOME rodando nela, e estou precisando de espaço em disco para meu Rwindows. Quero tirar a partição /dev/hda4 e colocar o sistema de arquivos fat16 nela. Alguém pode me ajudar? Agradeço desde já. Fabiano. -- //|||\\///|||//|||\\ || /\ || Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r2|| _ || || /@@\|| Linux lottar 2.2.18pre21 || () || ||/(__)\ ||Pentium 200 MMX 40Mb||/(_)\|| || ^ ^|| Fabiano Manoel de Andrade ||_/ \_|| || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || \\|||//\\\|||\\|||// -- //|||\\///|||//|||\\ || /\ || Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r2|| _ || || /@@\|| Linux lottar 2.2.18pre21 || () || ||/(__)\ ||Pentium 200 MMX 40Mb||/(_)\|| || ^ ^|| Fabiano Manoel de Andrade ||_/ \_|| || || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || \\|||//\\\|||\\|||// -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Gleydson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows 98: Agora também para Atari 2600.
Re: moving partitions to another hard drive
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:07:10PM +1000, Renai LeMay wrote: ok, I have asked this question before, in a slightly different form, but I couldn't find it in the archives, say I had two IDE hdd's, hda and hdb. say that hda was composed of a swap partition and /. how would I create a situation where all my data and my swap partition was on hdb instead of hda? ie - so I could take hda out and throw it away? There was just a huge string on this, search for the subject - Copying one hard drive to another I did this recently with no problems. Here is the bare bones of it - Put both drives in and create your partitions on hdb with fdisk or cfdisk. Create your file systems with mkfs.ext2 -c and mkswap -c Mount /dev/hdb1 and copy / on hda over with cp -ax Swap the drives and replace. See the howto at - http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of The Panther - R. M. Rilke
Re: Unkillable process
on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:31:26PM -0500, Andrei Ivanov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 'm running a 2.4.3 kernel with 2.2.1 glibc. Every now and then unkillable processes popup on my system (usually something that didnt shut down properly). It was xemacs once (and a ton of different processes that it runs), which prevented me running xemacs again as that user. Now it's mozilla .9. I have 2 processes sitting there doing nothing but preventing me starting netscape as a user. ps aux shows: scorpio 7314 0.0 3.8 2 4876 tty1 DMay10 0:00 /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin The process is in an uninterruptible sleep state. This is almost the same thing as a zombie state. Likely it's communicating (or trying to communicate) with a parent or child. I usually try to track down process relationships with 'pstree', then try killing related process with 15, 1, 2, and, if all else fails, 9. True unkillable zombies are rather rare. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgpr17h4GgD55.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: modutils
Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: What version of modutils are you using? ii modutils 2.3.11-13.1Linux module utilities. Running on stable Debian. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux bdg 2.4.4 #6 Fri May 4 11:53:01 JAVT 2001 i686 unknown Oki
Problems installing postfix
Does the default installation of postfix work out of the box? I tried apt-get install postfix and then apt-get install mutt. I run mutt and it says: /var/spool/mail/user: No such file or directory (errno = 2) Is this normal? I tried installing exim and sendmail instead, but the same thing results. Do I have to do something special to get the spool files created? Do I have to do something special to get the postfix (or whatever) to write to the spool files? Thanks! Jen
Re: modutils
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Oki DZ said: Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: What version of modutils are you using? ii modutils 2.3.11-13.1Linux module utilities. ,[ /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes ] | Current Minimal Requirements | | | Upgrade to at *least* these software revisions before thinking you've | encountered a bug! If you're unsure what version you're currently | running, the suggested command should tell you. | | [...] | | o modutils 2.4.2 # insmod -V `
Re: Problems installing postfix
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:21:10PM -0700, jennyw wrote: Does the default installation of postfix work out of the box? I tried apt-get install postfix and then apt-get install mutt. I run mutt and it says: /var/spool/mail/user: No such file or directory (errno = 2) This is a mutt thing. Create a file in /var/spool/mail/ with your user name. Here are the permissions mine has - scab:/var/spool/mail# ll kent -rw-rw1 kent mail0 May 22 22:01 kent Is this normal? I tried installing exim and sendmail instead, but the same thing results. Do I have to do something special to get the spool files created? Do I have to do something special to get the postfix (or whatever) to write to the spool files? Setting up postfix, exim, sendmail really depends on your needs. I found the following links helpful in setting up postfix - http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/howto/RH-postfix-HOWTO/book1.html http://postfix.linux.it/start.html kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of The Panther - R. M. Rilke
Re: Unkillable process
Karsten M. Self wrote: I usually try to track down process relationships with 'pstree', then try killing related process with 15, 1, 2, and, if all else fails, 9. killall -9 program name would be much more efficient, right? True unkillable zombies are rather rare. Usually, it's pretty difficult; even though they are already half-dead. BTW, speaking about killing processes... Once I had a daemon that couldn't be killed because the client program that once connected to it didn't close the ports properly. So the daemon was just there sitting, waiting for a time-out. But it didn't happen. Magically, kill -9 didn't work; the daemon materialized as a zombie, yet it was a strong one. It was pretty amusing... how long would a TCP connection time out given that any other side doesn't close the connection (and none is reading the ports)? Or, it just simply wouldn't time out? Oki
Re: Unkillable process
on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:33:45AM +0700, Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Karsten M. Self wrote: I usually try to track down process relationships with 'pstree', then try killing related process with 15, 1, 2, and, if all else fails, 9. killall -9 program name would be much more efficient, right? Using kill -9 on a process means you may have to clean up the pieces. Signals 15, 1, and 2 (TERM, HUP, and INT), are generally considered to be polite requests to jobs to get the hell over it already, but to clean up on the way out. SIGKILL is nonmaskable, and a process *can't* perform cleanup or garbage collection even if it wants to. True unkillable zombies are rather rare. Usually, it's pretty difficult; even though they are already half-dead. Most zombies are waiting for a resource to close. Hitting the other end of the resource (parent or child) generally does same. BTW, speaking about killing processes... Once I had a daemon that couldn't be killed because the client program that once connected to it didn't close the ports properly. So the daemon was just there sitting, waiting for a time-out. But it didn't happen. Magically, kill -9 didn't work; the daemon materialized as a zombie, yet it was a strong one. This is a case where you may have to shut down. Sometimes you can get the buggers if you shoot at 'em enough ways though. It was pretty amusing... how long would a TCP connection time out given that any other side doesn't close the connection (and none is reading the ports)? Or, it just simply wouldn't time out? Oki -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgpV4hC7xoflV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems installing postfix
jennyw wrote: Is this normal? I tried installing exim and sendmail instead, but the same thing results. Do I have to do something special to get the spool files created? Do I have to do something special to get the postfix (or whatever) to write to the spool files? Postfix probably creates them when you receive mail. Matthew
Re: heads-up (and a chance to object) on expect packages
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 07:33:25AM +0100, Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake forth: I'm planning to drop the two separate expect packages (expect5.24 and expect5.31) and create a single expect package with the current version. An automated upgrade path will be provided. [...] How compatible are the two? i.e. why was the split done in the first place? Maybe it's worth uploading the new one (and getting rid of expect5.31), but leaving 5.24 around for a couple of weeks in case there is a compatibility problem? The split predates my maintainership, though I'm planning to ask the previous maintainer... I may keep 5.24 around for a bit, but my main motivations are that: a) with all the issues of tcl breakage between versions, I have enough of the several versions of the same software packages to deal with b) expect5.24 5.30.1-7 is getting into the area of ugly and confusing, and updating the name of the package w/each release sounds as fun as needles in my eyeballs :) Basically, I don't really feel like maintaining two expects along with three (possibly soon four) tcls and tks, a couple of itcls, etc... so unless someone actually finds utility from the old one that they can't get from the new one, I'd like to get rid of it. -- Mike Markley [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 0x3B047084 7FC7 0DC0 EF31 DF83 7313 FE2B 77A8 F36A 3B04 7084 You! What PLANET is this! - McCoy, The City on the Edge of Forever, stardate 3134.0
Re: logitech mouseManPlus and fourth button: how to make it work?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On (15/05/01 21:46), Erik Steffl wrote: is there any way to get the fourth button (on the side of the logitech mouseMan with wheel) working? It does not work at all - not even with xev. I had a similar problem getting my new-fangled optical wheel mouse to work (it has two extra buttons on the sides). The solution, in my case, was the ExplorerPS/2 protocol and swapping the buttons round still no reaction to sidebutton (when using xev). what settings do you use in XF86Config? with xmodmap when starting X. Anyway, there are instructions for getting the wheel and extra buttons to work for various mice at the following web page:- http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ that's were I started, I also read README.mouse that comes with xfree86 which says: MouseMan+ has two buttons on top, one side button and a roller. FirstMouse+ has two buttons and a roller. The roller movement is recognized as the Z axis motion. The roller also acts as the third button. The side button is recognized as the fourth button. it does not work though (tried it with xev, no events are generated by fourth button (when z axis is mapped to buttons 3 and 4, it might be a problem because it say sidebutton is 4)), however when I set the wheel buttons to 5 and 6 (unlike usual 4 and 5) I get the very funny behaviour: whenever I get event from button 5 (when rotating wheel forward) I get the button 4 event, even if I don't click button 4 (which I thought might be button 4), look at the relevant parts of xev output: turn wheel (button 5), then hit button 3 (I would expect two event from 5, two from 3 but there is one event from button 4 inbetween): ButtonPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752043250, (76,134), root:(581,158), state 0x800, button 5, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752043250, (76,134), root:(581,158), state 0x1800, button 5, same_screen YES ButtonPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752048373, (76,134), root:(581,158), state 0x800, button 3, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752048373, (76,134), root:(581,158), state 0xc00, button 4, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752048554, (76,134), root:(581,158), state 0x400, button 3, same_screen YES turn wheel (button 5), then press side button (button 4): ButtonPress event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752170858, (50,174), root:(555,198), state 0x800, button 5, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752170858, (50,174), root:(555,198), state 0x1800, button 5, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752173334, (50,174), root:(555,198), state 0x800, button 4, same_screen YES I use: debian unstable kernel 2.4.3 xfree86 4.0.3 cordless mouseManWheel (by logitech) here's the relavant part of XF86Config: Section InputDevice Identifier Logitech Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device/dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons false Option Buttons 6 Option ZAxisMapping 5 6 EndSection when I set Protocol to IMPS/2, there is no 'button 4' extra event, other than that it works exactly the same (buttons are 1 - 3, wheel generates 5 and 6) anybody has more insight into mouse mysteries of X? TIA erik
Re: Unkillable process
Petr == Petr Dvorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Petr netscape is known doing this, 'kill -9 PID' should get rid Petr of them, signal 9 is not maskable. My experience, there are only two ways of killing netscape: 1. from netscape or the window manager close function. 2. kill -9. Last I tried, if I pressed Ctrl+C at the console running netscape in the foreground, or if I try to kill it with -9, then it crashed and can only be killed with -9. So it seems that the cleanup routine that intercepts the signal is buggy, and never returns. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modutils
Thomas Weinbrenner wrote: ,[ /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes ] | Current Minimal Requirements | | | Upgrade to at *least* these software revisions before thinking you've | encountered a bug! If you're unsure what version you're currently | running, the suggested command should tell you. | | [...] | | o modutils 2.4.2 # insmod -V ` It means that the package has to be reinstalled from unstable, right? I have updated my sources.list so that it points to unstable too. bdg:~# apt-get install modutils Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libc6 libc6-dev libdb2 libdb2-util 5 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 210 not upgraded. Need to get 177kB/5996kB of archives. After unpacking 8225kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] It seems that libc6 has to be upgraded too; what are the consequences of having unstable libs on a stable machine? Well, actually, my question is: what unstable packages do you have to install on a stable machine in order to have the machine having 2.4.4 kernel and be able to run it smoothly? I'd like to do apt-get dist-upgrade, but having read those horror stories Is there any way to upgrade piecemeally so that if some libraries create some error then it would be easy to step back a bit (and having be able to boot the machine, of course). TIA, Oki
Re: modutils
On Wed, 23 May 2001 12:33:12 +0700, Oki DZ writes: It seems that libc6 has to be upgraded too; what are the consequences of having unstable libs on a stable machine? Well, actually, my question is: what unstable packages do you have to install on a stable machine in order to have the machine having 2.4.4 kernel and be able to run it smoothly? There´s a FAQ on www.debian.org about that, see http://www.debian.org/News/2001/20010415 cheers, rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ \ Xsoft GmbH | T: +43 1 796 36 36 692 /
Re: modutils
Oki DZ wrote: It seems that libc6 has to be upgraded too; what are the consequences of having unstable libs on a stable machine? Why not compile your own modutils package from the sources in unstable? You don't need to upgrade glibc then. Well, actually, my question is: what unstable packages do you have to install on a stable machine in order to have the machine having 2.4.4 kernel and be able to run it smoothly? Modutils if you use modules (and who doesn't), the Reiserfs utils if you use that, probably others (devfs, iptables come to mind). Depends what features you use, but modutils is probably the bare minimum. Matthew
Re: Unkillable process
Karsten M. Self wrote: Using kill -9 on a process means you may have to clean up the pieces. Signals 15, 1, and 2 (TERM, HUP, and INT), are generally considered to be polite requests to jobs to get the hell over it already, but to clean I think Unix designers were having mixed feelings about kill; kill -15, killing me softly... ha, just like a song, ...killing me softly with his words ...killing me softly with his songs... up on the way out. SIGKILL is nonmaskable, and a process *can't* perform cleanup or garbage collection even if it wants to. I see; so the memory that once was used, wouldn't be returned back to the OS, right? Most zombies are waiting for a resource to close. Hitting the other end of the resource (parent or child) generally does same. So basically, if that happened, it just means that the other side was not yet exiting. (?) Really mean... This is a case where you may have to shut down. Sometimes you can get the buggers if you shoot at 'em enough ways though. Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 progname, to no avail. BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the machine, rebooting was the only option. Oki
Re: modutils
Robert Waldner wrote: There´s a FAQ on www.debian.org about that, see http://www.debian.org/News/2001/20010415 I see, it's already on the homepage... Well, I think it's time to have a new feature on apt-get; it has to print something like: Hi, wanna hear some news before continuing? [Y/n] and then cache the response so that next time apt-get run, the question wouldn't be asked. Oki
Re: modutils
Matthew Dalton wrote: Oki DZ wrote: It seems that libc6 has to be upgraded too; what are the consequences of having unstable libs on a stable machine? Why not compile your own modutils package from the sources in unstable? You don't need to upgrade glibc then. Instructions for this are here: http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=160mode=threadorder=0 Matthew
Re: Unkillable process
on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:11:48PM +0700, Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Karsten M. Self wrote: Using kill -9 on a process means you may have to clean up the pieces. Signals 15, 1, and 2 (TERM, HUP, and INT), are generally considered to be polite requests to jobs to get the hell over it already, but to clean I think Unix designers were having mixed feelings about kill; kill -15, killing me softly... ha, just like a song, ...killing me softly with his words ...killing me softly with his songs... Reminds me of what she said whennevermind. up on the way out. SIGKILL is nonmaskable, and a process *can't* perform cleanup or garbage collection even if it wants to. I see; so the memory that once was used, wouldn't be returned back to the OS, right? No. Your memory's going to be released. But your files might be scrambled. I would *not* 'kill -9' my mysqld server. Most zombies are waiting for a resource to close. Hitting the other end of the resource (parent or child) generally does same. So basically, if that happened, it just means that the other side was not yet exiting. (?) Really mean... Something like. This is a case where you may have to shut down. Sometimes you can get the buggers if you shoot at 'em enough ways though. Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 progname, to no avail. Look for parents/children. The zombies themselves won't hurt anything unless they fill your process table. BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the machine, rebooting was the only option. Maybe. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgp0Mzy4UZqba.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unkillable process
On Tuesday 22 May 2001 11:29 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: No. Your memory's going to be released. But your files might be scrambled. I would *not* 'kill -9' my mysqld server. I second this one from personal experience! Very bad... lucky I did it before I actually started working with the thing, because it led to a reinstall. Twice! -- - David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unkillable process
Oki DZ wrote: Karsten M. Self wrote: Using kill -9 on a process means you may have to clean up the pieces. Signals 15, 1, and 2 (TERM, HUP, and INT), are generally considered to be polite requests to jobs to get the hell over it already, but to clean I think Unix designers were having mixed feelings about kill; kill -15, killing me softly... ha, just like a song, ...killing me softly with his words ...killing me softly with his songs... up on the way out. SIGKILL is nonmaskable, and a process *can't* perform cleanup or garbage collection even if it wants to. actually kill is not really kill, it just send signals, some of them ask or force process to die... I see; so the memory that once was used, wouldn't be returned back to the OS, right? AFAIK the OS takes care of all/most of the resources - file are closed (but not saved), memory is released etc... if you see frozen netscape, before killing it check the free memory and check the memory after you killed -9 netscape, lot of memory is freed (not sure if all) This is a case where you may have to shut down. Sometimes you can get the buggers if you shoot at 'em enough ways though. Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 progname, to no avail. BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the machine, rebooting was the only option. check if it's a zombie - if it's a zombie it was already killed, just waits for something to be really unloaded from memory (usually it doesn't take long). IIRC one reason an application is zombie is that its parent waits for return value (which is sort of held by zombie, waitin for parent to process the info or something like that). generally, if you see a zombie, just wait. sooner or later they should go away... erik
Re: Unkillable process
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:11:48PM +0700, Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ... BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the machine, rebooting was the only option. you cannot unload the driver as long as it is used... erik
Re: moving partitions to another hard drive
On Tue, 22 May 2001 23:04:49 -0500 ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put both drives in and create your partitions on hdb with fdisk or cfdisk. Create your file systems with mkfs.ext2 -c and mkswap -c Mount /dev/hdb1 and copy / on hda over with cp -ax Swap the drives and replace. See the howto at - http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html The Hard-Disk-Upgrade is indeed a very useful document. I would add something to what Renai has written - remember that when you come to reboot your system with the new drive there will be nothing in the master boot record so you will need a floppy boot disk. I have a dos-formatted bootable floppy containing loadlin and an autoexec.bat which reads: loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro I like loadlin for bootable floppies because it is so easy to simply change the /dev/hda2 bit to point to any partition. If you don't have DOS on your machine you can even boot with another DOS floppy (like disk one of a DOS install set), run Edit and change the partition reference. There is no messing with LILO. All you need to do is create a bootable DOS floppy, copy loadlin and your current kernel onto it and create autoexec.bat as above. That's it. Once you have managed to boot your new Linux partition you can, of course, re-run LILO and you are back in business. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
RE: [users] Maildir protocaol spec?
I want to use a maildir as a sort of queue for processing incoming emails with structered data which needs to be processed and written to a db. Now, once I've decided to read a message, I move it to ./cur, but how do I let any other process like a POP3 server know that I'm currently reading this message and could be delieting it from under its nose? Also how do I know whether another process might be reading messages I left for processing in ./cur ? Basically what are the rules for reading deleting. Writing seems to be only dependent on the naming scheme, right? Thanks, Eugene van Zyl -Original Message- From: MaD dUCK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian-User Subject: Re: [users] Maildir protocaol spec? also sprach Eugene van Zyl (on Tue, 22 May 2001 12:50:47PM +0200): Where can I get a document describing the maildir format? The short page on Dan Bernstein's site is informative but I doubt complete, I can figure out how to read and mark messages to ./cur from ./new but nought is said about ./tmp and mention is made of the maildir writing algorythm? what do you need to know precisely? i have taken maildir apart in many senses and can probably answer you. for instance, marking messages as read is done by moving the file from new to cur, and *then* to rename it to *:2,S martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- you step in the stream, but the water has moved on. this page is not here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
root owner (or group) of lot of files in ~erik?
I have just found out that ~erik/.Xauthority is owned by root and I cannot access my X server (I couldn't run any X applications). I have no idea how that happened, I have started additional X server as root (startx -- :1), just like many times before, doing some testing of mouse settings. and now I checked more and I see that huge number of files in my home directory (10813out of 122342 (that includes ., .. and directories) have group set to root. Some files have group set to users. Most of them have group set to erik. jojda:~groups erik disk audio dip www-data video jojda:~grep erik /etc/passwd erik:x:1000:1000:Erik Steffl,,,:/home/erik:/usr/bin/tcsh examples of files: -rw-r--r--1 erik users 1910784 May 1 23:08 Chaos_Uk_-_Skate_Song.3. mp3 ... -rw-r--r--1 erik root 143 Nov 3 2000 Miro Zbirka - Dr.Jackyl Mr.Hyde.mp3 ... -rw-r--r--1 erik users 4390912 Nov 3 2000 Miro_Zbirka_-_C'est_La_V ie.mp3 note the same date on the last two of them - it was probably same gnapster session... most (all?) of the fiels with groups = users was downloaded by napster, but I don't see any pattern to the files where group is set to root. and the most puzzling is the .Xauthority - how could the permission be changed? any ideas? TIA erik
Re: Unkillable process
on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:35:37PM -0700, Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Oki DZ wrote: ... Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 progname, to no avail. BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the machine, rebooting was the only option. check if it's a zombie - if it's a zombie it was already killed, just waits for something to be really unloaded from memory (usually it doesn't take long). IIRC one reason an application is zombie is that its parent waits for return value (which is sort of held by zombie, waitin for parent to process the info or something like that). From _UNIX Power Tools_ (O'Reilly Associates): You cannot kill zombies; they are already dead. What is a zombie? I hear you ask. Why should a dead process stay around? Dead processes stick around for two principal reasons. The lesser of these is that they provide a sort of context for closing open file descriptors, and shuting down other resources (memory, swap space, and so forth). This generally happens immediately, and the process remails only for its major purpose: to hold onto its name and exit status. So, it's sort of an inheritance/probate process for Unix processes, except that the body doesn't go away until the will has been properly executed the entire estate distributed. It's dead, it's not doing anything, it just wants its final bequests fulfilled. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgplKUjfCZAxk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: modutils
Robert Waldner wrote: There´s a FAQ on www.debian.org about that, see http://www.debian.org/News/2001/20010415 OK, I've upgraded all the necessary packages; now depmod works fine. Thanks a lot. BTW, I see some conflicting programs; those on net-tools and netbase. debsums net-tools would return the following: bin/netstatOK sbin/ifconfig OK sbin/nameifOK sbin/plipconfig OK sbin/rarp OK sbin/route OK sbin/slattach OK sbin/ipmaddrOK sbin/iptunnel OK sbin/mii-tool OK usr/sbin/arpOK debsums | grep FAIL would return: usr/share/doc/mailman/images/mailman.jpg FAILED usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/installed-chrome.txt FAILED bin/netstatFAILED sbin/ifconfig FAILED sbin/rarp FAILED sbin/route FAILED sbin/slattach FAILED sbin/plipconfig FAILED sbin/ipmaddrFAILED sbin/iptunnel FAILED But since I mainly use the program that come from net-tool, I think this would be fine. Oki
Re: root owner (or group) of lot of files in ~erik?
on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:54:42PM -0700, Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have just found out that ~erik/.Xauthority is owned by root and I cannot access my X server (I couldn't run any X applications). You every symlink or hardlink this to your root .Xauthority file, by any chance? I have no idea how that happened, I have started additional X server as root (startx -- :1), just like many times before, doing some testing of mouse settings. and now I checked more and I see that huge number of files in my home directory (10813out of 122342 (that includes ., .. and directories) have group set to root. Some files have group set to users. Most of them have group set to erik. How'd you start as root? Did you 'su' or 'su -'? jojda:~groups erik disk audio dip www-data video jojda:~grep erik /etc/passwd erik:x:1000:1000:Erik Steffl,,,:/home/erik:/usr/bin/tcsh examples of files: -rw-r--r--1 erik users 1910784 May 1 23:08 Chaos_Uk_-_Skate_Song.3. mp3 ... -rw-r--r--1 erik root 143 Nov 3 2000 Miro Zbirka - Dr.Jackyl Mr.Hyde.mp3 ... -rw-r--r--1 erik users 4390912 Nov 3 2000 Miro_Zbirka_-_C'est_La_V ie.mp3 note the same date on the last two of them - it was probably same gnapster session... Running gnapster as root? You play Russian roulette when you're bored as well? most (all?) of the fiels with groups = users was downloaded by napster, but I don't see any pattern to the files where group is set to root. $ find ~ -user root -print0 | xargs -0 ls -ld ...and explore for patterns. and the most puzzling is the .Xauthority - how could the permission be changed? I have my suspicions. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgpL3EKJRMsdv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Karsten's browser reviews (updated)
Last time I've checked, this deb-url contained galeon and ximian packages of mozilla. They use a strange numbering scheme for the libnspr4 package and are never uptodate. Take the deb of galeon and install it with dpkg -i galeon.deb. NB: galeon won't work with mozilla0.9 from kitame. You need to keep your old 0.8.1 or you need to download the deb source add the attached patch in the sub-directory pstream/patches/ and rebuild it. If you are under unstable (aka sid), you can download the resulting package at http://christophe.barbe.online.fr/download/ Christophe On Tue, 22 May 2001 21:10:57 Kai Weber wrote: + Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com: Where did you get your .deb's from? The links on the website seem to be dead! Craig Mozilla I'm getting through the standard Debian packages. Galeon I downloaded from ftp.sourceforge.net: ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/galeon/ ...currently looks like: galeon_0.10.5-1.mozilla.0.8.1_i386.deb Are there any experiences with the moziall builds from http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla/? When I use the apt-line from above (ftp://ftp.sourceforge...) I get the following: $ apt-get dist-upgrade -u -d Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: galeon mozilla nautilus-mozilla The following packages will be upgraded libnspr4 libpgsql2.1 2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded. There will be the nautilus-moziall package be deinstalled. That is not what I want! But my current Galeon version from http://people.debian.org/~btb/src/galeon has some problems. Nobody is planing an official and BTS-able debian package? Kai. -- k a i w e b e r | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] w w w | http://www.glorybox.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com
Re: weird routing problem??
ezekiel:/home/thoover# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.110.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 There's your problem. Your gateway should be 192.168.1.10, not 192.168.1.11. -- Kevin
Re: need help with ALSA / soundcard
Hi all, Vester, did you use the alsa modules debain package or you take it from www.alsa-project.org source. I got the same problem : I've tried several thing and everything load fine but I hear no sound (after unmuting my card) or the alsamixer said me thing like lsamixer: failed to open mixer #0/#0: No ... . Christophe ... PS: Who is Cameron Matheson ? He doesn't start the thread and suddenly claims that an advice fixed the problem. On Wed, 23 May 2001 02:22:45 Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:36:12AM +0200, vester wrote: modprobe snd-seq-oss says: /lib/modules/2.4.4/misc/snd-seq-oss.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmor errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters alsamixer says: alsamixer: failed to open mixer #0/#0: No such file or directory Run the snddevices script that's included with the alsa-driver package. I believe that is mentioned in the INSTALL file. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com
Re: Unkillable process
IIRC this is a know issue with kernel 2.4.3. D process can't be killed : D mean UNinterruptible sleep and kill send a signal which wake-up target process if they are in an interruptible state.. Upgrade to 2.4.4 even if there is some drawbacks with it (there's a fork issue), or wait for 2.4.5 which should be better. Christophe On Wed, 23 May 2001 09:06:40 Karsten M. Self wrote: on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:35:37PM -0700, Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Oki DZ wrote: ... Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 progname, to no avail. BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the machine, rebooting was the only option. check if it's a zombie - if it's a zombie it was already killed, just waits for something to be really unloaded from memory (usually it doesn't take long). IIRC one reason an application is zombie is that its parent waits for return value (which is sort of held by zombie, waitin for parent to process the info or something like that). From _UNIX Power Tools_ (O'Reilly Associates): You cannot kill zombies; they are already dead. What is a zombie? I hear you ask. Why should a dead process stay around? Dead processes stick around for two principal reasons. The lesser of these is that they provide a sort of context for closing open file descriptors, and shuting down other resources (memory, swap space, and so forth). This generally happens immediately, and the process remails only for its major purpose: to hold onto its name and exit status. So, it's sort of an inheritance/probate process for Unix processes, except that the body doesn't go away until the will has been properly executed the entire estate distributed. It's dead, it's not doing anything, it just wants its final bequests fulfilled. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com
memstat shows many /lib/ld-2.1.3.so processes
Hi, there is an odd phenomenon on one of my potato systems. memstat shows many ld replicas eating up the available memory. It seems that each process running is accompanied by such a loader replica resident in memory. Any hints? Thanks, Thomas # memstat 40k: PID 1 (/lib/libc-2.1.3.so) 60k: PID77 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 108k: PID 133 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 428k: PID 135 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 120k: PID 148 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 120k: PID 149 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 120k: PID 150 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 120k: PID 151 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 186 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 244 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 252 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 263 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 272 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 281 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 290 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 299 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 28k: PID 308 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 268k: PID 348 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 284k: PID 356 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 2404k: PID 359 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 148k: PID 364 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 40k: PID 368 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 68k: PID 371 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 244k: PID 374 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 12412k: PID 381 (/dev/mem) 36k: PID 384 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 36k: PID 385 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 36k: PID 386 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 36k: PID 387 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 36k: PID 388 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 36k: PID 389 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 588k: PID 391 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 436k: PID 406 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 244k: PID 408 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 68k: PID 411 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 20k: /usr/sbin/inetd 308 248k: /usr/sbin/ntpd 364 308k: /usr/sbin/sendmail 348 16k: /usr/sbin/atd 368 36k: /usr/sbin/ypbind 148 149 150 151 24k: /usr/sbin/cron 371 200k: /usr/sbin/sshd 356 406 20k: /usr/sbin/automount 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 4021632k: /dev/mem 381 1456k: /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 381 8k: /usr/lib/autofs/lookup_file.so 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 12k: /usr/lib/autofs/parse_sun.so 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 8k: /usr/lib/autofs/mount_nfs.so 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 408k: /usr/X11R6/bin/xfs 359 8k: /usr/bin/memstat 411 76k: /usr/bin/kdm 374 391 76k: /lib/ld-2.1.3.so 1 77 133 135 148 149 150 151 186 244 252 263 272 ... 864k: /lib/libc-2.1.3.so 1 77 133 135 148 149 150 151 186 244 252 263 27... 20k: /lib/libcrypt-2.1.3.so 356 374 391 406 232k: /lib/libdb-2.1.3.so 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 308 348 406 12k: /lib/libdl-2.1.3.so 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 356 374 381 39... 112k: /lib/libm-2.1.3.so 359 364 381 391 40k: /lib/libnss_compat-2.1.3.so 406 76k: /lib/libnsl-2.1.3.so 77 133 148 149 150 151 348 356 371 406 408 68k: /lib/libpthread-0.8.so 148 149 150 151 364 228k: /lib/libncurses.so.5.0 408 444k: /bin/bash 408 28k: /lib/libpam.so.0.72 356 374 391 406 12k: /lib/security/pam_env.so 406 8k: /lib/security/pam_mail.so 406 4k: /lib/security/pam_warn.so 406 ...
Re: Unkillable process
Oki DZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karsten M. Self wrote: I usually try to track down process relationships with 'pstree', then try killing related process with 15, 1, 2, and, if all else fails, 9. killall -9 program name would be much more efficient, right? 'killall' is a very dangerous command to get used to using. If you ever find yourself on a Solaris machine, killall really does mean that; it ignores the argument and kills all processes (possibly apart from init). Since you're probably root at the time you're doing this sort of thing, you'll find yourself with an unusable system. For that reason, I always advise people to forget that killall exists, even if it's a handy short cut on Linux. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
newbie problem
Hi all, I've treid everything i know or i've learned from this list and i couldnt manage to make x server work... I have an i810 board ann 2.2 potato. as a newbie i'm stuck... sometimes i say myself just give it up and install mandrake or something (because i've heard its easier) but i dont want to give up. So my question is is there anybody/anywhere or anything that i can get some help or information ? I've written to list twice and i couldnt just search google and find answers... :(( Thanks in advance...
Re: weird routing problem??
Internet | | (external NIC) | ariel | | (192.168.1.10) | | (192.168.247.10) --- (two internal NICs) | | | |___ || || || wiredSubnet wirelessSubnet - --- taz (192.168.1.2) paltiel (192.168.247.6) woody (192.168.1.3) ezekiel (192.168.1.4) noah (192.168.1.5) ezekiel:/home/thoover# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.110.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 ^^ This should be 10. With the current setting Ezekiel can indeed connect to Ariel (that's on the same subnet), but it doesn't know how to reach other networks. Iwan.
gnumeric
I have a stable (2.2r3) system and this is the wrong time for me to think of upgrading to testing. It would be very useful, though, to have a more up-to-date version of gnumeric than the one available in stable (stable has 0.47; testing has 0.64). I don't use the whole gnome beast, but I do use two parts of it---gnumeric and panel, so I have (at least) as much of the gnome setup as is required to run them. I thought to try to compile the version of gnumeric that's in testing and tried: apt-get --compile source gnumeric (after adding the needed line to sources.list and updating). The configuration script, however, exits early on with this message: configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install make: *** [build-stamp] Error 1 Build command 'cd gnumeric-0.64 dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. E: Child process failed I'm not sure which of the gnome libraries causes the creation of gnomeConf.sh on installation. Guessing, I tried installing libgnome-dev from stable, but apt offered to install a total of 13 packages to satisfy dependencies. And that seemed like too much overhead for an upgrade of one program, especially when I wasn't sure that installing all that stuff would actually solve the problem. Is there anyone who has successfully compiled more recent versions of gnumeric on a potato system? Or is there anyone who could offer advice on how to get further with this? Thanks very much, Jim
Re: newbie problem
on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:28:34AM +0300, Derya PALANCI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi all, I've treid everything i know or i've learned from this list and i couldnt manage to make x server work... I have an i810 board ann 2.2 potato. as a newbie i'm stuck... sometimes i say myself just give it up and install mandrake or something (because i've heard its easier) but i dont want to give up. So my question is is there anybody/anywhere or anything that i can get some help or information ? I've written to list twice and i couldnt just search google and find answers... :(( First, read: How to Report Bugs Effectively http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html ... In a nutshell, the aim of a bug report is to enable the programmer to see the program failing in front of them. You can either show them in person, or give them careful and detailed instructions on how to make it fail. If they can make it fail, they will try to gather extra information until they know the cause. If they can't make it fail, they will have to ask you to gather that information for them. Provide specific details on what's failing, specifying: - Names and versions of software/hardware involved. - What you're doing (command input, with arguments if possible). - Error or diagnostic output. This can be terminal output, system logs, dmesg, various /proc resources, or physical descriptions of the problem, e.g.: smoking mouse. Note that GNU/Linux, and GNU/Linux distros, aren't monolithic affairs, they're sets of systems and subsystems. If something doesn't work, you have to track it down to the appropriate root cause. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgpGwuyyrrdVK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: need help with ALSA / soundcard
Hi Vester, To use alsa-sound you don't need to configure the oss either as module or build-in while you build your kernel image. It was documented in the alsa-driver-0.5.10b.tar.bz2 package. Just configure the sound support in module or build-in, then compile your kernel as usual. If oss was build as module there will be a soundcore.o file in your /lib/modules/... directory. I don't know whether this helps or not. I am scared to provide infos', since I am still a newbie. yours, Sherab i'm using a vaio notebook with a yamaha ymf-754 soundcard on debian/testing. i compiled the kernel with CONFIG_SOUND CONFIG_SOUND_OSS and CONFIG_SOUND_YMFPCI as modules (i know that the last one is the correct module for my soundcard, because it worked with my old suse system) and succesfully loaded the modules -- however i didn't hear sound with xmms since i used alsa drivers in my old suse configuration i apt-get installed alsaconf...but alsa doesn't detect my soundcard automatically, so i selected it myself which didn't work either. the alsa script gives me the following output: Starting ALSA sound driver (version none):modprobe: Can't locate module snd no driver installed what can i do to make sound work? i don't particularly need to use alsa -- i just want to have the soundcard working anyway i can! thanks! vester -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Advertise with ZFREE - to find out more click below http://www.zfree.co.nz/about-us/advert.html
Re: XDM or GNOME???
On Wed, 23 May 2001 01:57:09 +0200, spider wrote: ** 1. did i do the right thing??? i mean is it the right file? ** 2. there is this GNOME panel and icons on the desktop, but i dont have an 1. My .xsession file: sawfish exec gnome-session 2. This is cause you have no windowmanager loaded! If you have the newest gnome, version 1.4.x, you should use sawfish to have the best support of windowmananger for gnome. If you use the gnome version of potato you can use sawmill. You can use most other windowmanagers. But sawmill or sawfish are the best i mean. Timo
Re: Netscape and Flash problem
On Tue, 22 May 2001 13:30:08 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: ** My suggestion is to get a different browser (galeon, konqueror, or ** mozilla are strongly recommended), disable flash in it, and get a ** freestanding Flash viewer for the rare time when Flash is useful. One ** was mentioned here in the past day or so that's licensed under GPL. Thanx for your suggestions! I have installed konquerror but i thougt netscape is the only way to use flash for the moment. I downloaded flash from www.macromedia.com. It's the newest version for netscape and there was no other flashplayers for linux, then this one for netscape. Do you have any idea where i can get a flashplayer for konqueror? And what do you mean whith a freestanding flash viewer? Timo
Re: modutils
On Wed, 23 May 2001 09:29:05 +0700, Oki DZ wrote: ** Hi, ** ** If I did depmod -a then /lib/modules/2.4.4/modules.dep would become 0 ** in size. ** ** Pretty interesting... if modules.dep's size is 0, then no module could ** be loaded. ** What could be the cause? ** I have reinstalled modutils two times (yes, I'm desperate), but the same ** thing happens. you have to use modutils 2.4.x for work with kernel 2.4! Timo
ALSA / sound
@ noah: hi...sorry, didn't read the INSTALL file carefully enough, sorry! =) anyway, it's all working now...except snd-seq-oss still won't load. but i hear sound -- that is what i wanted. thanks! @ christophe: i followed noah's suggestion and got the alsa package directly from www.alsa-project.org best, -vester
Re: need help with ALSA / soundcard
ooops, i forgot: use ./snddevices after you have compiled the drivers, and alsamixer will work! i think cameron just had the same problem and noah's advice fixed it for him -- good thing =) cheers, vester On Wed, 23 May 2001, [ISO-8859-1] christophe barbé wrote: Hi all, Vester, did you use the alsa modules debain package or you take it from www.alsa-project.org source. I got the same problem : I've tried several thing and everything load fine but I hear no sound (after unmuting my card) or the alsamixer said me thing like lsamixer: failed to open mixer #0/#0: No ... . Christophe ... PS: Who is Cameron Matheson ? He doesn't start the thread and suddenly claims that an advice fixed the problem. On Wed, 23 May 2001 02:22:45 Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:36:12AM +0200, vester wrote: modprobe snd-seq-oss says: /lib/modules/2.4.4/misc/snd-seq-oss.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmor errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters alsamixer says: alsamixer: failed to open mixer #0/#0: No such file or directory Run the snddevices script that's included with the alsa-driver package. I believe that is mentioned in the INSTALL file. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnumeric
Jim McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a stable (2.2r3) system and this is the wrong time for me to think of upgrading to testing. It would be very useful, though, to have a more up-to-date version of gnumeric than the one available in stable (stable has 0.47; testing has 0.64). I don't use the whole gnome beast, but I do use two parts of it---gnumeric and panel, so I have (at least) as much of the gnome setup as is required to run them. I thought to try to compile the version of gnumeric that's in testing and tried: apt-get --compile source gnumeric (after adding the needed line to sources.list and updating). The configuration script, however, exits early on with this message: configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install You certainly have whatever's required to run gnumeric, but that's not the same as what's required to compile it. Try this (lines wrapped for clarity): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ apt-cache showsrc gnumeric Package: gnumeric Binary: gnumeric Version: 0.64-1.1 Priority: optional Section: math Maintainer: Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Build-Depends: libgnome-dev (= 1.2.12-1), libxml-dev (= 1.8.11-1), libglade-gnome0-dev (= 0.16-2), libgal-dev (= 0.7-2), libole2-dev (= 0.1.7-0.1), python-dev, cygnus-stylesheets, gettext, autoconf, debhelper (= 3.0) Architecture: any Standards-Version: 2.4.0.0 Format: 1.0 Directory: pool/main/g/gnumeric Files: 63aefa5c2080d0eea3927fa21c7955fc 1101 gnumeric_0.64-1.1.dsc 49673e41e314dacc54ea5aa74c0792ea 7133532 gnumeric_0.64.orig.tar.gz 0a2bdd73cb0ed338e605629f15be633b 5730 gnumeric_0.64-1.1.diff.gz The Build-Depends: line means that, in addition to the stuff that the build-essential package depends on, you also need that list of packages with the appropriate versions in order to build the package. The stable release doesn't have new enough versions of many of these packages, and doesn't have some of the others at all, so you may have problems getting the recent package to build. If you're lucky, it might be possible anyway, if you install as many of the build dependencies as you can. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie problem
On Wed, 23 May 2001 11:28:34 +0300, Derya PALANCI wrote: ** Hi all, ** ** I've treid everything i know or i've learned from this list and i couldnt ** manage to make x server work... I have an i810 board ann 2.2 potato. as a ** newbie i'm stuck... sometimes i say myself just give it up and install ** mandrake or something (because i've heard its easier) but i dont want to give ** up. So my question is is there anybody/anywhere or anything that i can get ** some help or information ? I've written to list twice and i couldnt just ** search google and find answers... :(( ** ** Thanks in advance... ** Hi! It's very useful for us readers, if you tell us which version of xfree you try to make running on your machine! If you like to use xfree3.x on potato you should install xviddetect (Opt X). Then you can use #anXious on console! A great configuration tool. And you can view the .xsession-errors file in your homedirectory, to find out why #startx makes trouble. If you copy your .xsession-errors file into this newsgroup and write about the version of xfree and whether you use potato or woody, the others have a better chance to give you useful suggestions for fixing your trouble! Timo
Re: First step with Mutt
Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:17:22PM +, Victor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Could someone show me how I could configure e.g. exim to reach my ISP and my smtp and pop3 servers ? Have you installed exim? Walking through the postinst configuration should set it up properly for you. If you need to reconfigure later: $ dpkg-reconfigure exim Since exim isn't configured with debconf, dpkg-reconfigure won't do anything. You need /usr/sbin/eximconfig instead. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape and Flash problem
On 23 May 2001 11:18:59 +, Timeboy wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2001 13:30:08 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: ** My suggestion is to get a different browser (galeon, konqueror, or ** mozilla are strongly recommended), disable flash in it, and get a ** freestanding Flash viewer for the rare time when Flash is useful. One ** was mentioned here in the past day or so that's licensed under GPL. Thanx for your suggestions! I have installed konquerror but i thougt netscape is the only way to use flash for the moment. I downloaded flash from www.macromedia.com. It's the newest version for netscape and there was no other flashplayers for linux, then this one for netscape. Do you have any idea where i can get a flashplayer for konqueror? And what do you mean whith a freestanding flash viewer? Konquerer (Mozilla too, I don't know about Opera) are plugin-compatible with netscape plugins. So you simply use the netscape plugin. I have no idea about freestanding players, but I guess a search on freshmeat would help. -- I did not vote for the Austrian government
Re: dif version of debian ??
Dan Christensen wrote: Hi All Im thinking about changen to debian from SuSE, so i started to get this list, but now im more in dubt about the way debian works and who many dif version ther are, i seen versions like 2.2.r2 2.2.r3 woody and the list go on. is ther a place to get the info on the versions and what the dif is from version to wersion, so i can finde the version best for me. Sorry if this Q has been up before, but im fearly new to Linux. TIA Hi Dan, Suse has the same system. They constantly bring security-updates in their distri and from time to time they change from 7.1-0 to 7.1-1 (you'll only see this in YAST). 2.2r3 is the latest stable Debian and if you can get this go for it. If your vendor has only the 2.2r2 its easy to update with apt-get. As far as I have noticed no won this list woody is quite stable (I guess it is as stable as the actual Suse/RH). So if you want a distri with kernel 2.4.x and XFree86 4.0.x get woody. I have changed from Suse to Debian a few weeks ago and I am very happy. There are a few thing I'll have to figure out yet cause it is very different from Suse, but at least everything is working (not like Suse 7.1). Hope this will hep you a bit, Frank
