Re: gnome no acaba d'arrencar i el xfce tampoc

2014-05-18 Thread jors
On 17/05/14 19:20, Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura wrote: Hola, fa pocs dies vaif fer un apt-get dist-upgrade i la dia següent no em va arrencar l'entorn gràfic gnome, es queda el cursor a dalt a l'esquerra i el ratolí en mode gràfic. Sembla com si no acabés el procés. si faig un stop del gdm3 i

Re: Plugin weather de gnome-shell trop imprécis ...

2014-05-18 Thread Fabien R
On 16/05/2014 12:30, moi-meme wrote: pour une extension vocale j'utilise http://cunimb.net/decodemet.php?station=LFPB LFPB pour le Bourget. un petit awk pour extraire les infos du METAR ensuite. pour moi les infos sont correctes. Tu as également le package metar. Les données sont

Re: Plugin weather de gnome-shell trop imprécis ...

2014-05-18 Thread François Boisson
Le Fri, 16 May 2014 10:49:23 +0200 Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr a écrit: Une solution pour toi, ce serait de trouver une station plus proche de chez soi. Malheureusement, il semble qu’il n’y en ai pas à Montpellier : si tu vas sur http://openweathermap.org/Maps et que tu

Re: les dev Gnome 3 sont vraiment des lourds dingues

2014-05-18 Thread maderios
On 05/17/2014 09:27 PM, Jérôme wrote: Le samedi 17 mai 2014 à 15:21 +0200, maderios a écrit : Les packageurs de Debian portent une *ÉNORME* responsabilité concernant cette intox contre E17. Il serait soit-disant nul, etc... Il me semble surtout que e17 souffre justement d'un manque de

gvenwiew et okular ne trouvent pas mes imprimantes

2014-05-18 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Bonjour, Sur une testing i386 l' application gvenwiew ne trouve pas mes imprimantes configurée, même sanction pour okular, ces applications sont à jour. La bizarrerie c'est qu'elle me propose une imprimante qui a disparu depuis longtemps de mon univers. Dans le panneau de configuration kde mes

Re: Plugin weather de gnome-shell trop imprécis ...

2014-05-18 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le dimanche 18 mai 2014, 17:30:39 François Boisson a écrit : […] PS: Cette carte est iindiquée «beta» Y a-t-il encore quelque chose quelque part (surtout sur le web) qui ne soit ni en « bêta » ni en « -pre » ? -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question :

Re: [Firmware Bug]: AMD-Vi: IOAPIC[0] not in IVRS table

2014-05-18 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Le 17 mai 2014, Jean-Christophe Saint-Marc a écrit : Auriez-vous des suggestions à ce problème ? Linux 3.14.4 est disponible dans les backports Je viens d'essayer à l'instant. Échec total. J'ai les mêmes messages avant la création de /dev. Puis juste après le montage des partitions, le

Re: Plugin weather de gnome-shell trop imprécis ...

2014-05-18 Thread Bzzz
On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:31:46 +0200 Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr wrote: Le dimanche 18 mai 2014, 17:30:39 François Boisson a écrit : […] PS: Cette carte est iindiquée «beta» Y a-t-il encore quelque chose quelque part (surtout sur le web) qui ne soit ni en « bêta » ni en

Re: gvenwiew et okular ne trouvent pas mes imprimantes

2014-05-18 Thread Bzzz
On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:27:02 +0200 MERLIN Philippe phil-deb1.mer...@laposte.net wrote: applications sont à jour. La bizarrerie c'est qu'elle me propose une imprimante qui a disparu depuis longtemps de mon univers. Vérifie le contenu de /etc/cups/client.conf, il y a des chances que les applis

Re: gvenwiew et okular ne trouvent pas mes imprimantes

2014-05-18 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le dimanche 18 mai 2014, 19:27:02 MERLIN Philippe a écrit : Bonjour, ’soir, […] propose une imprimante qui a disparu depuis longtemps de mon univers. Dans le panneau de configuration kde mes imprimantes sont bien reconnues. Certaines applications comme gimp ou acroread reconnaissent aussi

Re: [Firmware Bug]: AMD-Vi: IOAPIC[0] not in IVRS table

2014-05-18 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le dimanche 18 mai 2014, 19:42:40 Alain Rpnpif a écrit : Le 17 mai 2014, Jean-Christophe Saint-Marc a écrit : Auriez-vous des suggestions à ce problème ? Linux 3.14.4 est disponible dans les backports Je viens d'essayer à l'instant. Échec total. J'ai les mêmes messages avant la

Re: Plugin weather de gnome-shell trop imprécis ...

2014-05-18 Thread Frédéric Micout
Le 18/05/2014 19:43, Bzzz a écrit : On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:31:46 +0200 Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr wrote: Le dimanche 18 mai 2014, 17:30:39 François Boisson a écrit : […] PS: Cette carte est iindiquée «beta» Y a-t-il encore quelque chose quelque part (surtout sur le web)

Re: Plugin weather de gnome-shell trop imprécis ...

2014-05-18 Thread Bzzz
On Sun, 18 May 2014 21:46:45 +0200 Frédéric Micout debian-...@sujets-libres.fr wrote: Comment un projet peut-il devenir mature sans passer avant par une phase de Bêta ? Avec la meilleure volonté du monde, il y restera toujours des bugs que les développeurs n'auront pas identifiés. Pour sortir

Re: Plugin weather de gnome-shell trop imprécis ...

2014-05-18 Thread maderios
On 05/18/2014 10:08 PM, Bzzz wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2014 21:46:45 +0200 Frédéric Micout debian-...@sujets-libres.fr wrote: Comment un projet peut-il devenir mature sans passer avant par une phase de Bêta ? Avec la meilleure volonté du monde, il y restera toujours des bugs que les développeurs

Re: Plugin weather de gnome-shell trop imprécis ...

2014-05-18 Thread Bzzz
On Sun, 18 May 2014 23:06:25 +0200 maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: As tu oublié tes gènes ? La culture Linux, c'était, c'est toujours, et heureusement encore pour longtemps, le bazar. Si on casse le bazar, le moteur s'arrête. Que ceux qui râlent Non, ce que je conteste, au même titre que

Re: Plugin weather de gnome-shell trop imprécis ...

2014-05-18 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le dimanche 18 mai 2014, 21:46:45 Frédéric Micout a écrit : […] Comment un projet peut-il devenir mature sans passer avant par une phase de Bêta ? […] Évidemment, j’exagérais. Il y a plein d’applications mûres. D’un autre côté, il y a aussi tous les sites et toutes les applications Google

Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread José Antonio Podadera Moya
El Sábado, 17 de mayo de 2014 17:24:46 Ulises Ruz Puga escribió: usa norton ghost O su alternativa libre, Clonezilla (http://clonezilla.org). En cualquier caso, Norton Ghost sólo es compatible con GPT a partir de la versión 11.5 Yo al final, profesionalmente, acabé clonando con dd, tal y como

Re: Bloqueo del apagado con una carpeta NFS montada

2014-05-18 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 17 May 2014 21:11:39 +0200, Gerardo Diez García escribió: cuando monto manualmente una carpeta compartida con NFS y trato de apagar el equipo, el apagado se detiene y nunca finaliza. ¿Queda registrado algún error? ¿Este es el comportamiento que se considera correcto? Yo esperaba que

Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 17 May 2014 16:05:27 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: les escribo con la finalidad de conseguir opiniones sobre como es la mejor forma o opcion para clonar un hdd con windows 7 Yo he usado Clonezilla con Windows XP y sin problemas. le explico mi inutil pero gran problema

Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread Debian GMail
El 18/05/14 11:23, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 17 May 2014 16:05:27 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: les escribo con la finalidad de conseguir opiniones sobre como es la mejor forma o opcion para clonar un hdd con windows 7 Yo he usado Clonezilla con Windows XP y sin problemas. le

Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
buenas entonces puedo montar los 2 disco en una pc! un livecd y ejecuto dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=10M el origen es de 750gb el destino es de 1tb debo darle formato al destino primero! Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd El día 18 de mayo de 2014, 10:45, Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com

Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 18 May 2014 12:15:15 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: El 18/05/14 11:23, Camaleón escribió: (...) Si el disco está fallando físicamente es mejor que no lo clones ni lo copies al disco nuevo sino que instales de nuevo de lo contrario podrías estar copiando/clonando sectores de datos

OffTopic: reemplazo a Evolution

2014-05-18 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
Holas, realmente me gusta mucho este cliente de correo pero... ... pero a veces funciona en formas misteriosas (por no decir que hace cosas raras, o anda como el ). A esto se suma -comentado varias veces en esta lista- que la gente de gnome/gtk últimamente está fumando paco de muy mala

Re: OffTopic: reemplazo a Evolution

2014-05-18 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 18 May 2014 13:01:24 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: realmente me gusta mucho este cliente de correo pero... ... pero a veces funciona en formas misteriosas (por no decir que hace cosas raras, o anda como el ). A esto se suma -comentado varias veces en esta lista- que la gente de

Re: OffTopic: reemplazo a Evolution

2014-05-18 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El dom, 18-05-2014 a las 16:32 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sun, 18 May 2014 13:01:24 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: realmente me gusta mucho este cliente de correo pero... ... pero a veces funciona en formas misteriosas (por no decir que hace cosas raras, o anda como el ). A esto

Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread Debian GMail
El 18/05/14 12:23, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: El día 18 de mayo de 2014, 10:45, Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com escribió: El 18/05/14 11:23, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 17 May 2014 16:05:27 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: les escribo con la finalidad de conseguir

Re: OffTopic: reemplazo a Evolution

2014-05-18 Thread Debian GMail
El 18/05/14 13:01, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: Entonces aquí estoy, ¿quien me recomienda un cliente, preferentemente no-gtk, que soporte pop, imap, las libretas de direcciones¹ y agenda calendario² de google, y como frutilla del postre, sirva para rss? IceDove. Te sirve para todo debido a la

RE: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread William Romero
Yo optaria por usar GHOST  que es un execelente clonar de disco para windows. saludos William Romero les escribo con la finalidad de conseguir opiniones sobre como es la mejor forma o opcion para clonar un hdd con windows 7 Yo he usado Clonezilla con Windows XP y sin problemas. le

Re: OffTopic: reemplazo a Evolution

2014-05-18 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 18 May 2014 13:45:19 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: El dom, 18-05-2014 a las 16:32 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) por ejemplo esto pasó en la última actualización que hice ayer: http://s141.photobucket.com/user/pescauAvatars/media/

Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread Debian GMail
El 18/05/14 14:09, William Romero escribió: Yo optaria por usar GHOST que es un execelente clonar de disco para windows. saludos William Romero Amén del top-posting, supongo que vos le vas a dar a Edward los u$s 48,22 que cuesta el Symantec Ghost Solution Suite, ¿o le estás indicando

Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread Pablo
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com wrote: Amén del top-posting, supongo que vos le vas a dar a Edward los u$s 48,22 que cuesta el Symantec Ghost Solution Suite, ¿o le estás indicando viole la ley y use un programa pirata? CREO que esta es una lista

RE: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread William Romero
Pirata o no  funciona , sin descartar que Clonezilla funciona muy bien. lo propuesto es una alternativa mas no una exigencia al cual uno debe acatar , el precio es algo que no se requiere tener para probar algo. saludos william Romero Amén del top-posting, supongo que vos le vas a dar a

SET TROLL ON (ERA: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7)

2014-05-18 Thread Debian GMail
El 18/05/14 15:48, William Romero escribió: Pirata o no funciona , sin descartar que Clonezilla funciona muy bien. lo propuesto es una alternativa mas no una exigencia al cual uno debe acatar , el precio es algo que no se requiere tener para probar algo. saludos william Romero En mi país

RE: SET TROLL ON (ERA: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7)

2014-05-18 Thread William Romero
? El 18/05/14 15:48, William Romero escribió: Pirata o no funciona , sin descartar que Clonezilla funciona muy bien. lo propuesto es una alternativa mas no una exigencia al cual uno debe acatar , el precio es algo que no se requiere tener para probar algo. saludos william Romero En

Re: OffTopic: reemplazo a Evolution

2014-05-18 Thread Rolo Navarta
El 05/18/2014 01:52 PM, Debian GMail escribió: El 18/05/14 13:01, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: Entonces aquí estoy, ¿quien me recomienda un cliente, preferentemente no-gtk, que soporte pop, imap, las libretas de direcciones¹ y agenda calendario² de google, y como frutilla del postre, sirva para

RE: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread Dulasoft
div Mensaje original /divdivDe: William Romero wromer...@hotmail.com /divdivFecha:18/05/2014 20:48 (GMT+01:00) /divdivPara: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org /divdivAsunto: RE: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7 /divdiv /divPirata o no funciona ,

Re: Sin acceso a servidor de pruebas

2014-05-18 Thread Miguel Matos
El día 13 de mayo de 2014, 21:51, Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com escribió: Hola a la lista. Recientemente, tengo problemas para acceder a mi servidor casero. Primero, porque mi laptop tomó la misma dirección IP que mi server (tardé mucho en saberlo porque, quien sabe qué embrujo le

Re: Sin acceso a servidor de pruebas

2014-05-18 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:38:12 -0430 Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com wrote: debe ser proftpd ¿? En vsftpd en un minuto con mi config anda. Saludos -- Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/plus MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina

Re: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
¿Aja que es mejor G4L o G4U? Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd El día 18 de mayo de 2014, 17:20, Dulasoft i...@dulasoft.com escribió: Mensaje original De: William Romero Fecha:18/05/2014 20:48 (GMT+01:00) Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: RE: OT clonar un

Re: Sin acceso a servidor de pruebas

2014-05-18 Thread Miguel Matos
El día 18 de mayo de 2014, 19:53, Fabián Bonetti mama21m...@riseup.net escribió: On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:38:12 -0430 Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com wrote: debe ser proftpd ¿? En vsftpd en un minuto con mi config anda. Saludos -- Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/plus MamaLibre,

RE: OT clonar un hdd con windows7OT clonar un hdd con windows7

2014-05-18 Thread William Romero
Hboot , lo tiene a G4L 0.34 como unos de sus herramientas usadas. y libre sobre todo http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd una mas a la opciones de uso. http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ salu2. ¿Aja que es mejor G4L o G4U? Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd El día 18 de mayo de 2014,

OT router

2014-05-18 Thread jan
Hej alla! Jag har under många år använt en Linksys WRT54GL router. Bortåt tio år tror jag. Häromdagen bestämde jag mig för att lyssna på rekommendationer från en bekant och köpte en Asus router. Igår konfigurerade jag den och fick mycket bättre prestanda än med min WRT54GL. Lysande! Alla glada

Re: OT router

2014-05-18 Thread Staffan Melin (Oscillator)
2014-05-18 12:41 GMT-04:00 j...@lillahusetiskogen.se: Hej alla! Jag har under många år använt en Linksys WRT54GL router. Bortåt tio år tror jag. Häromdagen bestämde jag mig för att lyssna på rekommendationer från en bekant och köpte en Asus router. Igår konfigurerade jag den och fick

Re: OT router

2014-05-18 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2014-05-18 at 18:41 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote: Hej alla! Jag har under många år använt en Linksys WRT54GL router. Bortåt tio år tror jag. Häromdagen bestämde jag mig för att lyssna på rekommendationer från en bekant och köpte en Asus router. Igår konfigurerade jag den

Re: Re: compra de notebook

2014-05-18 Thread Marcelo Laia
já consegui 4 devoluções de Windows, Dell e Lenovo, e 2 acabei desistindo, da Asus e Itautec se não me engano. Junior, Como você conseguiu devolver as licenças? Eles deram um desconto? -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: compra de notebook

2014-05-18 Thread Listeiro 037
Itautec não existe mais? A empresa OKI comprou a divisão de informática e a produção de notebooks foi encerrada. http://convergenciadigital.uol.com.br/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?infoid=35744sid=5 A unidade de computação será paulatinamente desativada.

Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:36:19PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: snip This looks like a request for tech help, so for the life of me, I can't imagine why the gender and age of the recipient of the help are relevant. And then father figure? And in another post, She

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-05-18 07:09 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 18 mai 14, 12:49:08, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order of 5 seconds (which seems like an eternity). ... Any

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:54:52AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 5/18/14, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/17/2014 07:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Nobody forces you to install the add-on, certainly not Mozilla or Debian. And that is the part I don't get. Anyone is free to

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-18 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/18/14, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2014-05-18 07:09 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 18 mai 14, 12:49:08, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order of 5 seconds

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-18 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order of 5 seconds (which seems like an eternity). Additionally, this slow tty/session

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 09:17:46PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: - Original Message - From: Martin Vegter Sent: 05/18/14 01:58 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: systemd situation in Jesssie Hello, I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-18 Thread Filip
On Sun, 18 May 2014 02:34:35 -0400 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order of 5 seconds

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-18 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/18/14, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order of 5 seconds (which seems like an

Re: [totally OT] experience with Seagate Barracuda and NAS drives

2014-05-18 Thread Joe
On Sat, 17 May 2014 21:11:13 -0400 Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Eike Lantzsch Sent: 05/17/14 07:52 PM To: Debian-user Subject: [totally OT] experience with Seagate Barracuda and NAS drives On the contacts for the heads and also

Re: Where to get older versions of pkgs

2014-05-18 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2014-05-17 at 21:48 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm having plenty of trouble with the newest version of sendmail on a brand new install. I have the version numbers obtained by running: aptitude search -F sendmail '%p %v' On a machine with it installed. I understand the command

Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:31PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote: Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally. Far from be being a Thought Policeman, I felt uneasy reading the OP and some of the replies. Back OT, someone please tell to the investigative journalist that using Tails or

Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Weaver
On Sun, May 18, 2014 2:05 am, Francesco Ariis wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:31PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote: Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally. snip Back OT, someone please tell to the investigative journalist that using Tails or any other OS on a compromised

Re: reboot required after linux-image upgrade?

2014-05-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 14 May 2014 12:44:36 The Wanderer wrote: They do appear to, but in my experience, not uncommonly when running a dist-upgrade that includes a linux-image* upgrade something will get messed up about the order of events; the script will get run at the wrong time, and then not get

Re: DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 18 May 2014 06:16:28 c. marlow wrote: Thank you so much TOM you made me SO HAPPY So why did he have to tell you twice before you took any notice? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Where to get older versions of pkgs

2014-05-18 Thread José Antonio Podadera Moya
El Sábado, 17 de mayo de 2014 21:48:03 Harry Putnam escribió: I'm having plenty of trouble with the newest version of sendmail on a brand new install. I have the version numbers obtained by running: aptitude search -F sendmail '%p %v' On a machine with it installed. I understand the

Re: reboot required after linux-image upgrade?

2014-05-18 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/14/14, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 ... three months, but I dist-upgrade to testing at least once every two or three weeks.) - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. Ahhh .. so .. like, who are you? I know

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-18 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2014-05-17 21:54 keltezéssel, Tom H írta: I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install systemd instead (and make my servers unbootable) ? On unstable, these

Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 02:33:21AM -0700, Weaver wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2014 2:05 am, Francesco Ariis wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:31PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote: Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally. snip Back OT, someone please tell to the investigative

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-18 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:37:38PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 05/17/2014 02:57 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so,

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-18 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 09:17:46PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: - Original Message - From: Martin Vegter Sent: 05/18/14 01:58 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: systemd situation in Jesssie Hello, I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading

Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Richard Owlett
My general question is How to search for a particular particle of information that you've seen SOMEWHERE in the reams of information available as formal documentation, web pages, mailing lists, etc. My current instance is attempting to modify the max number of loop devices. One pellet of

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-18 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:21 AM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 5/18/14, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with sysvinit, additional tty sessions are

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-18 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Nemeth Gyorgy fri...@freemail.hu wrote: 2014-05-17 21:54 keltezéssel, Tom H írta: I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without having to worry that one of these updates will uninstall half of my system and install

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: My general question is How to search for a particular particle of information that you've seen SOMEWHERE in the reams of information available as formal documentation, web pages, mailing lists, etc. My current

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Tom H a écrit : My current instance is attempting to modify the max number of loop devices. One pellet of Google buckshot reminded me that it can be reset for the next re-boot under /etc/modprobe.d . But I want to reset it on the fly. If you have loop compiled in to the kernel, as I do

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Gary Dale
On 15/05/14 04:43 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Free Software Foundation statement may clear some confusion expressed on this list. https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-condemns-partnership-between-mozilla-and-adobe-to-support-digital-restrictions-management

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/18/2014 09:52 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Tom H a écrit : If you have loop compiled in to the kernel, as I do below, you can only change the number of loop devices at boot by using max_loop=number_of_loop_devices on the kernel cmdline.

Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Doug
On 05/18/2014 05:05 AM, Francesco Ariis wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:31PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote: Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally. Far from be being a Thought Policeman, I felt uneasy reading the OP and some of the replies. Back OT, someone please tell to

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: Just as no one forced Americans to own slaves, the fact that slavery was allowed was an insult to notion of freedom. Arguing that the freedom to choose whether to own slaves or not made Americans freer would be called

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:20 AM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 05/18/2014 09:52 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Tom H a écrit : If you have loop compiled in to the kernel, as I do below, you can only change the number of loop devices at boot by using max_loop=number_of_loop_devices

Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
- Original Message - From: Doug Sent: 05/18/14 10:36 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Tails Is it possible to remotely install some kind of software onto the BIOS chip? That's what it would seem to require, short of having physical access to the machine. Yes, the

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Brian
On Sun 18 May 2014 at 09:40:29 -0400, Tom H wrote: If you have loop compiled in to the kernel, as I do below, you can only change the number of loop devices at boot by using max_loop=number_of_loop_devices on the kernel cmdline. # grep BLK_DEV_LOOP /boot/config-3.15-rc5

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-18, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: My current instance is attempting to modify the max number of loop devices. One pellet of Google buckshot reminded me that it can be reset for the next re-boot under /etc/modprobe.d . But I want to reset it on the fly. I'm reading

Re: DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-18 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:16:28AM -0500, c. marlow wrote: Thank you so much TOM you made me SO HAPPY... I found the one I wanted... I just LOVE this background it reminds me of WIN 2000 which was my fav windows os Here is the desktop on Xubuntu 12.04 my current OS for now. I'm glad you

Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:36:43AM -0400, Doug wrote: BIOS chip? That's what it would seem to require, short of having physical access to the machine. --doug Indeed physical access to the machine is what I was thinking about (simple hypothetical threat: hardware key-logger in work

Re: Security updates for hold package

2014-05-18 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
- Original Message - From: Andrei POPESCU Sent: 05/17/14 05:06 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Security updates for hold package You haven't yet stated why you need the backports kernel, but if you want to keep using it install the backports meta-package. I HAD

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Mon, 19 May 2014 00:46:57 +1000 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com napísal: On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: Just as no one forced Americans to own slaves, the fact that slavery was allowed was an insult to notion of freedom. Arguing that the

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Pascal Hambourg
The Wanderer a écrit : What does 'modprobe -r loop' do to any active loop devices? Nothing. I would expect it to either error out without removing the module if any loop devices are in use, As usual when the module is in use. or automatically shut the loop devices down. That would be

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 18 May 2014 at 09:40:29 -0400, Tom H wrote: If you have loop compiled in to the kernel, as I do below, you can only change the number of loop devices at boot by using max_loop=number_of_loop_devices on the kernel

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 17 May 2014 21:00:48 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com napísal: What Mozilla is doing is providing a framework for keeping the companies that want into your computer out, by providing them tools to get only what the law allows them and no more. I am not lawyer, then i will

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Tom H
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-05-18, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: My current instance is attempting to modify the max number of loop devices. One pellet of Google buckshot reminded me that it can be reset for the next re-boot under

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: The Samba doesn't allow to use of proprietary software. Samba only uses the SMB protocol (i can be wrong, but it is standardized), which Windows uses (as primary) too. But you can connect two Samba between themselves, then no

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Filip
On Sun, 18 May 2014 15:15:34 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-05-18, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: My current instance is attempting to modify the max number of loop devices. One pellet of Google buckshot reminded me that it can be reset for the next re-boot

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: Dňa Sat, 17 May 2014 21:00:48 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com napísal: What Mozilla is doing is providing a framework for keeping the companies that want into your computer out, by providing them tools to get only what the

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-18, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm reading you can *add* another loop device on the fly with the mknod command: mknod -m 660 /dev/loop8 b 7 8 You'll have to run chown root:disk /dev/loop8 too. Nobody mentioned that in my reading! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Brian
On Sun 18 May 2014 at 11:23:56 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 18 May 2014 at 09:40:29 -0400, Tom H wrote: If you have loop compiled in to the kernel, as I do below, you can only change the number of loop devices at boot by

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-18 Thread David Dušanić
  17.05.2014, 22:29, "Erwan David" er...@rail.eu.org:Le 17/05/2014 22:02, Tom H a écrit : On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: Le 17/05/2014 20:57, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: I am wondering whether systemd will be

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-18 Thread Erwan David
Le 18/05/2014 08:34, Tom H a écrit : On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order of 5 seconds (which seems like an eternity).

Re: Where to get older versions of pkgs

2014-05-18 Thread Harry Putnam
José Antonio Podadera Moya j...@rodypo.es writes: [...] You can try to install old package versions from the snapshot archive (http://snapshot.debian.org). As the page itself says: The snapshot archive is a wayback machine that allows access to old packages based on dates and version

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Lee Winter
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: A lot of people responding to this post don't seem to understand that freedom applies to more than just personal choice. The United States was not a free nation while it accepted slavery and Firefox is not free software

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-18, Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: mknod -m 660 /dev/loop8 b 7 8 But I guess that covers only half of the word modify. You can create devices nodes with that in the filesystem, but they will not work unless they also exist in the kernel. Yes, but work was not part of the problem

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Brian
On Sun 18 May 2014 at 16:01:08 +, Curt wrote: But all seriousness aside it appears that the max number of loop devices cannot be altered on the fly and requires a reboot, if I'm understanding correctly. You really should try Tom H's advice. Two minutes out of your life. :) -- To

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Lee Winter
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 17 May 2014 21:00:48 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com napísal: What Mozilla is doing is providing a framework for keeping the companies that want into your computer out, by providing them tools to get

Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-18 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-18, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: You really should try Tom H's advice. Two minutes out of your life. :) So if loop is compiled as a module (as it is here) you can change the max number of devices without rebooting (but this requires removing the module from the running kernel,

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