systemd: udev coldplug all devices question

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
Hello, There are some devices that when present will cause the "coldplug all devices" stage at boot to fail. On a normally installed system only an error is reported in the journal and logs during boot but the system boots normally and the device also functions normally. But on debian installer

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Jude DaShiell
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Wed, 14 Sep 2022, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Stefan wrote: > In article you > write: > >> the interest of the user. These "volunteers"

Usar llvmpipe en vez de amdgpu

2022-09-14 Thread Jefferson Smith Pizarro Gutierrez
Hola quiero saber com puedo calibrar el brillo de mi pantalla usando llvmpipe en vez de amdgpu. puesto que aunque me sale en la pantalla que bajo al maximo el brillo lo que sucede es que ni sube ni baja el brillo solo se mantiene al maimo .Deseo modificar el brillo de mi pantalla.xrandr:

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/14/2022 11:01 PM, Maude Summerside wrote: > > On 2022-09-14 21:45, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> I'll be brutally honest: being accused of "possibly malicious" > >> unwilligness is *not* a great way to convince overstretched

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-14 Thread gene heskett
On 9/14/22 19:50, David Christensen wrote: On 9/14/22 11:40, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Does anyone have experience with this controller card? https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 Specifically, whats my chances of moving an existing software raid10's 4 Samsung

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Maude Summerside
On 2022-09-14 21:45, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> I'll be brutally honest: being accused of "possibly malicious" >> unwilligness is *not* a great way to convince overstretched volunteers >> to spend their time on issues. > >

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/14/22 6:16 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Stefan wrote: > In article you > write: > >> the interest of the user. These "volunteers" obviously have other, > >> possibly malicious, interests if they prove themselves unwilling to > >> apply fixes to bugs that are reported to them. > > > >I think

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: I'll be brutally honest: being accused of "possibly malicious" unwilligness is *not* a great way to convince overstretched volunteers to spend their time on issues. Especially when it's an ongoing pattern of discourse.

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Maude Summerside
On 2022-09-14 17:06, Thiemo Kellner wrote: > Am 14.09.22 um 18:39 schrieb Maude Summerside: >> This is where intellectual shortcut starts... >> Free/OSS doesn't mean GPL. >> There's plenty of Free/OSS software that the copyright owner retains >> right to commercial licensing. Just look at

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-14 Thread David Christensen
On 9/14/22 11:40, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Does anyone have experience with this controller card? https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 Specifically, whats my chances of moving an existing software raid10's 4 Samsung 1T's to it, and then attaching 4 more 2T

Re: Should a serious bug have made in into bullseye 11.5?

2022-09-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
Michael Stone wrote: >On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 10:10:33AM -0500, David Wright wrote: >>Well, my focus would be on two things: (a) the change in compatibility >>level in debhelper in the middle of stable's lifetime > >That would not have ordinarily happened, and probably shouldn't have >happened

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
Stefan wrote: In article you write: >> the interest of the user. These "volunteers" obviously have other, >> possibly malicious, interests if they prove themselves unwilling to >> apply fixes to bugs that are reported to them. > >I think there's a confusion here: these volunteers will also have

Re: Getting PHP to work with Apache on other directories

2022-09-14 Thread paulf
On Wed, 14 Sep 2022 08:51:56 -0700 Paul Scott wrote: > On 9/14/22 06:49, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > > Folks: > > > > I just installed Debian testing. I do PHP development. I host live > > websites at /var/www/html and development sites at > > /home/paulf/public_html. I have Apache

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Thiemo Kellner
Am 14.09.22 um 18:39 schrieb Maude Summerside: This is where intellectual shortcut starts... Free/OSS doesn't mean GPL. There's plenty of Free/OSS software that the copyright owner retains right to commercial licensing. Just look at libraries, some of them will be in such a licensing term that

Re: Copier 300GB d'un disque dur a un autre

2022-09-14 Thread hamster
Le 14/09/2022 à 22:19, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : Tout semble ok, sauf la taille du bloc logique comme le signale Hamster: Taille de secteur (logique / physique) : 512 octets / 4096 octets J'ai beau chercher dans les man (mkfs, fdisk) et sur le net, je ne trouve pas comment faire pour

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-14 Thread gene heskett
On 9/14/22 16:03, Dan Ritter wrote: gene heskett wrote: On 9/14/22 14:55, Dan Ritter wrote: gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Does anyone have experience with this controller card? https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 Specifically, whats my chances of moving an

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-14 Thread gene heskett
On 9/14/22 15:23, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2022 14:40:10 -0400 gene heskett wrote: Does anyone have experience with this controller card? https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 Gene, I don't know why you think you need 16 SATA ports. Also, this card ships

Re: Copier 300GB d'un disque dur a un autre

2022-09-14 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Salut Oui, je l'ai fait un peu à la "va vite" en utilisant l'interface graphique... Je viens de reprendre tout ca proprement D'abord avec un fdisk /dev/sdc pour creer sdc1 Puis pour formater # mkfs.ext4 -b 4096 /dev/sdc1 mke2fs 1.43.4 (31-Jan-2017) En train de créer un système de fichiers avec

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-14 Thread Dan Ritter
gene heskett wrote: > On 9/14/22 14:55, Dan Ritter wrote: > > gene heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > Does anyone have experience with this controller card? > > > > > > https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 > > > > > > Specifically, whats my chances of moving

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 03:43:16PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 9/14/22 14:55, Dan Ritter wrote: > > gene heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > Does anyone have experience with this controller card? > > > > > > https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 > > > > > >

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-14 Thread gene heskett
On 9/14/22 14:55, Dan Ritter wrote: gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Does anyone have experience with this controller card? https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 Specifically, whats my chances of moving an existing software raid10's 4 Samsung 1T's to it, and then

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 14 Sep 2022 14:40:10 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > Does anyone have experience with this controller card? > > https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 Gene, I don't know why you think you need 16 SATA ports. Also, this card ships from China, and 3 to 31 days shipping

Re: drive controller Q?

2022-09-14 Thread Dan Ritter
gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Does anyone have experience with this controller card? > > https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 > > Specifically, whats my chances of moving an existing software raid10's 4 > Samsung 1T's to it, > and then attaching 4 more 2T

drive controller Q?

2022-09-14 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; Does anyone have experience with this controller card? https://www.newegg.com/p/14G-04YB-3?Item=9SIB2XHHUE3880 Specifically, whats my chances of moving an existing software raid10's 4 Samsung 1T's to it, and then attaching 4 more 2T drives to it too, to create a separate 4T

Re: Flatpak: Espai ocupat al /var/lib/flatpak

2022-09-14 Thread Joan
Ja he trobat el sospitós: $ flatpak list Name Application ID Version BranchInstallation Mindustrycom.github.Anuken.Mindustry 126.2 stablesystem Freedesktop Platform

Re: Success stories - Number one

2022-09-14 Thread Dan Ritter
DdB wrote: > 3. The simplistic approach: > To get to that goal, i did create a directory purely to hold the > status of my changes in the following form. For every modification > to the system, i considered being worth keeping, i stored 3 files. > 1. the original file as Ubuntu

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Maude Summerside
On 2022-09-14 08:31, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: >>> For example, most web >>> browsers are based on chromium, a free oss project that comes in large part >>> from >>> Google, but some of the most-used browsers in the world based on chromium >>> are proprietary, such as chrome and edge. >> I am

Re: Getting PHP to work with Apache on other directories

2022-09-14 Thread Paul Scott
On 9/14/22 06:49, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Folks: I just installed Debian testing. I do PHP development. I host live websites at /var/www/html and development sites at /home/paulf/public_html. I have Apache configured so that localhost/~paulf/ gets me to the sites at

Re: GenesysLogic USB microscope + uvcvideo interferes with all input

2022-09-14 Thread Maude Summerside
On 2022-09-14 11:31, Roger Price wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2022, Roger Price wrote: > >> I'm trying to use a USB microscope with Debian 11.  When I plug it in >> dmesg reports: >> >>  usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: GenesysLogic Technology Co., Ltd. >>  uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0 UVC PC

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
People of debian-user :) This thread does seem to be degenerating slightly into accusations and name-calling, justified or not. Without prejudice to anyone: please may I remind you that debian-user and all Debian lists and IRC channels are subject to the Debian Code of Conduct. It would be very

Success stories - Number one

2022-09-14 Thread DdB
1. Introduction: As many other users, i usually ask for help on this list, naming problems, i am facing and hoping to find help. Not this time. Last night, i rectivated an old script of mine, that was still hanging around in my repo since my Ubuntu days. I found it to be so

Re: Flatpak: Espai ocupat al /var/lib/flatpak

2022-09-14 Thread Narcis Garcia
__ I'm using this dedicated address because personal addresses aren't masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator should fix this against automated addresses collectors. El 14/9/22 a les 17:16, Eduard Selma ha escrit: El 14/9/22 a les 11:26, Joan ha

Re: GenesysLogic USB microscope + uvcvideo interferes with all input

2022-09-14 Thread Roger Price
On Wed, 14 Sep 2022, Roger Price wrote: I'm trying to use a USB microscope with Debian 11. When I plug it in dmesg reports: usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: GenesysLogic Technology Co., Ltd. uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0 UVC PC Camera (a16f:0304) but when I run vlc v412:///dev/video0 , I

Re: Flatpak: Espai ocupat al /var/lib/flatpak

2022-09-14 Thread Eduard Selma
El 14/9/22 a les 11:26, Joan ha escrit: Hola, Estic fent neteja de la partició arrel, i veig que el /var/lib/flatpak ocupa 2,7Gb (és molt, en el meu sistema). No tinc consciència d'haver instal·lat cap aplicació via flatpak, tot i que igual em falla la memòria (probable) o potser vaig

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/14/2022 9:06 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-09-14 at 08:51, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > On 9/14/2022 1:03 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 03:41:11PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>> Actually, someone already has shown us how to do it

GenesysLogic USB microscope + uvcvideo interferes with all input

2022-09-14 Thread Roger Price
I'm trying to use a USB microscope with Debian 11. When I plug it in dmesg reports: usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: GenesysLogic Technology Co., Ltd. uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0 UVC PC Camera (a16f:0304) but when I run vlc v412:///dev/video0 , I see a black window flash every 10

Getting PHP to work with Apache on other directories

2022-09-14 Thread paulf
Folks: I just installed Debian testing. I do PHP development. I host live websites at /var/www/html and development sites at /home/paulf/public_html. I have Apache configured so that localhost/~paulf/ gets me to the sites at /home/paulf/public_html. I have an index.html and a script to test PHP

Re: Printer pauses a few seconds between each page

2022-09-14 Thread Yvan Masson
Hi, For those interested, I solved this by using PCL driver instead of Postscript (which was the default when setting up the printer), based on suggestions on the cups mailing list: https://lists.cups.org/pipermail/cups/2022-September/075164.html Regards, Yvan Le 11/09/2022 à 22:24, Yvan

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 7:11 PM, Thiemo Kellner wrote: > Am 13.09.22 um 23:55 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: > > > > > I am fairly sure I was a victim of > > the breach of Yahoo that affected hundreds of millions of its users. > I am sorry for you. I do not know this case, so I cannot tell whether > OSS or CSS

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-09-14 at 08:51, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 9/14/2022 1:03 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 03:41:11PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> Actually, someone already has shown us how to do it better. His name is >>> Linus Torvalds [...] >> >> I don't

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/14/2022 1:03 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 03:41:11PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > [...] > > > Actually, someone already has shown us how to do it better. His name is > > Linus Torvalds [...] > > I don't know what your aim is. > > I have the impression that it's

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/14/2022 7:08 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > On 9/13/2022 3:59 PM, err...@free.fr wrote: > > > Please STOP! > > > > > > you are annoying, and if you want improve free softwares, is not > > > like this. you will better contribute with your code or with your > > > translations than by

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 7:11 PM, Thiemo Kellner wrote: > Am 13.09.22 um 23:55 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: > > On 9/13/2022 4:14 PM, Thiemo Kellner wrote: > > I think Megha is emphasizing, and possibly over-emphasizing, the fact > > that the persons > > who actually commit the code in free software projects

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 6:47 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > If free/oss projects like Debian want to provide software with those > > positive characteristics to their users, those projects must have in > > place some level of oversight over what the persons who actually write > > the software actually do, or

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 4:38 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > The users. They stop using software or any product that does not work > > well or is more trouble than it is worth. Then the entity, whether > > a free/oss or proprietary provider ends up shutting down > > the enterprise. > > But, being Free

Re: Copier 300GB d'un disque dur a un autre

2022-09-14 Thread hamster
Le 14/09/2022 à 12:59, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : Disque /dev/sdc : 931,5 GiB, 1000204886016 octets, 1953525168 secteurs Unités : secteur de 1 × 512 = 512 octets Taille de secteur (logique / physique) : 512 octets / 4096 octets taille d'E/S (minimale / optimale) : 4096 octets / 4096 octets

Re: Copier 300GB d'un disque dur a un autre

2022-09-14 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Salut Oui ça doit être ça, merci Cela peut il poser un problème de ne pas créer sdc1? Cordialement Hugues Le mer. 14 sept. 2022 à 13:15, Jérémy Prego a écrit : > bonjour, > > Peut être parce que tu as créé directement le système de fichier sur sdc ? > et pas sur sdc1 ? > > Si sdc1 n'existe

Re: Copier 300GB d'un disque dur a un autre

2022-09-14 Thread Jérémy Prego
bonjour, Peut être parce que tu as créé directement le système de fichier sur sdc ? et pas sur sdc1 ? Si sdc1 n'existe pas, il faut le créer avec fdisk ou gparted, et ajouter une nouvelle partition ... pour créer ton système de fichier, quel commande as tu effectué ? mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc ou

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread debian-user
> On 9/13/2022 3:59 PM, err...@free.fr wrote: > > Please STOP! > > > > you are annoying, and if you want improve free softwares, is not > > like this. you will better contribute with your code or with your > > translations than by writing to this mailing-list I agree with the sentiments of

Re: Copier 300GB d'un disque dur a un autre

2022-09-14 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Bonjour Ca y est le nouveau disque est installé et formaté en ext4 Par contre un truc me parait bizarre, fdisk -l ne me fait pas apparaître la partition sdc1 a l'instar des autres disques. Est ce normal? # smartctl -H /dev/sdcsmartctl 6.6 2016-05-31 r4324 [x86_64-linux-4.9.0-19-amd64] (local

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-14 Thread Curt
On 2022-09-13, DdB wrote: > Am 13.09.2022 um 21:47 schrieb Juan R.D. Silva: >> Oh, I did recreated it. And I even think is very close to original. :-) > > This is good news! Thanks for sharing it. :-) > DdB > I thought he was going to say the rewrite was an *improvement*. I think it was

Re: Menu - configuración Grub

2022-09-14 Thread Josu Zaloña
Eso es, perfecto, ¡Muchas gracias! On 22/9/14 01:00, JavierDebian wrote: El 13/9/22 a las 15:34, Josu Zaloña escribió: Buenas tardes, Al actualizar los repositorios con apt-get update y upgrade en un momento dado me ha solicitado que actualice la configuración de grub-pc. Creo que ha sido

Flatpak: Espai ocupat al /var/lib/flatpak

2022-09-14 Thread Joan
Hola, Estic fent neteja de la partició arrel, i veig que el /var/lib/flatpak ocupa 2,7Gb (és molt, en el meu sistema). No tinc consciència d'haver instal·lat cap aplicació via flatpak, tot i que igual em falla la memòria (probable) o potser vaig instal·lar algo amb la GUI d'Aplicacions del

Aw: Re: systemd automount unit: run only when server is reachable

2022-09-14 Thread Jürgen Bausa
Hi David, if I understood you correctly you propose to run a script in the background to check for the condition I am interested in (is the nfs server available?) and do the changes accordingly. In fact I am doing this at the moment. But I think its an ugly hack and thought a better solution

Fwd: Dia de la Llibertat del Programari 2022

2022-09-14 Thread Àlex
Dissabte, a partir de les 16:30, celebrem el Dia de la Llibertat del Programari a Barcelona. Lloc: Espai Jove BocaNord Agudells, 37-45 08032 – Barcelona Metro Línia 5 El Carmel (accessos adaptats) Autobús: V21, 39, 19, 86, 87 Nocturn: N4 https://www.caliu.cat/post/dlp2022/

Re: LibreOffice - any way to recover not saved changes to the file?

2022-09-14 Thread local10
Sep 13, 2022, 19:47 by juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com: > I was pissed off to find out that autosave is desabled by default. I used not > to care. Looks like now I want to enable it. :-) > I actually have it disabled on purpose. The reason is I don't always want changes to be autosaved because

Re: Menu - configuración Grub

2022-09-14 Thread Camaleón
El 2022-09-13 a las 20:34 +0200, Josu Zaloña escribió: (...) > Necesito ayuda con una "pequeñez"... no soy capaz de acertar con la tecla o > combinación de ellas para seleccionar una de las opciones... ¿Seleccionar una de las opciones del menú de GRUB? Con las teclas de dirección para