Re: Meeting with the Development Team

[Andy Smith]

Hi,

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 08:40:32AM +, Ray Galt wrote:
> I would like to reach out to the decision-maker in the IT
> environment within your company.

I will be surprised if Ray is subscribed and reading this as Ray's
message was basically spam (a cold contact with very little research
behind it).

It may be worth generally noting that the Debian project is not a
company and cannot buy any services itself. Other legal entities
such as SPI inc enter into contracts on behalf of Debian where
necessary.

And of course, Debian is probably pretty comfortable managing its
own IT functions and anyone who has any ideas about how they can be
improved will be expected to join in — as a volunteer — not pitch a
commercial solution.

> May I present what we can do for you?

Ask not what Debian can buy from you, Ray, but what you can freely
contribute to Debian. 

Thanks,
Andy

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Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

[Andy Smith]

Hi,

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:19:16AM +0100, Ralph Aichinger wrote:
> I know this is a loaded topic. I really don't want to discuss the
> political aspects of the "why", but just want to know the facts, i.e.
> how far this has been progressed in Debian.

As Debian is not itself upstream for most of the software it
distributes, it is going to rely on upstream projects to make these
changes. I am not aware of any coordinated effort in Debian to find
instances of this terminology and propose changes upstream.

That sort of project-wide consensus is hard to achieve in Debian
(even on non-controversial topics) so I wouldn't be surprised if
Debian Developers who are interested in this would not get further
by just proposing the changes to upstream projects themselves as
individuals.

So then, if you spot such terminology in use somewhere there is
nothing stopping you from having a look at their issue tracker to
see if there is already an issue in place about that and possibly
propose changes yourself.

> Is there anything planned to get "master/slave" terminology out of
> network bonding/LACP in Debian (or Linux kernel or whoever decides
> this terminology)?

The Ethernet bonding driver is a kernel module. It is quite old
(decades) and hasn't seen much development recently, I think because
it is generally considered complete.

There has been a replacement/successor for the Ethernet bonding
driver for some time — the teaming driver — which does away with the
older terminology as well as providing a few other improvements:

https://libteam.org/

However I must confess that despite having bonded Ethernets on all
my works servers (with ifenslave for userland control) I personally
have never spent the time to convert to libteam and I rarely see
other examples of people having done so.

I think possibly a reason for this is that the Ethernet bonding
driver was considered complete a long time ago and the purely
technical improvements of the teaming driver are quite small or
niche, so few people see the need to change. I have used the bonding
driver since before the teaming driver existed, so there's been some
inertia against me learning a new thing.

It would be good to see more use and examples for libteam to help
people like me¹ feel more confident in switching.

If you proceed with it, how about making a page on the Debian
wiki?

Thanks,
Andy

¹ Although in my specific case we are actually in the middle of
  switching to a BGP architecture where each server BGP peers and
  all traffic is routed at layer 3, not switched at layer 2. Each
  server's individual Ethernet interfaces are being broken out and
  bonding will not be used at all any more. The redundancy of
  network will come from BGP.

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Re: sshd Match regel

[Richard Lucassen]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 16:21:35 +0100
Roland Clobus  wrote:

> On 21/02/2024 16:08, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> > Wie heeft een tip
> 
> Ik heb nog een (zeer) oude Linksys WRT staan, die kan ik benaderen
> met:
> 
> ssh -oKexAlgorithms=+diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 
> -oHostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa username@mylocalip
> 
> Ik heb met ssh -v username@mylocalip de waarde voor -oKexAlgorithms 
> gevonden.

Even ter info: onder Debian heb je een package dat openssh-client-ssh1
heet. Enige nadeel is dat-ie de /etc/ssh/ssh_config uitleest en niet
bijvoorbeeld een /etc/ssh/ssh1_config. Even scripten dus met een eigen
config file. Er is ook een scp1 in dat package.

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Re: qemu et lancer un system " reel "

[Étienne Mollier]

Bonjour kaliderus,

kaliderus, on 2024-02-22:
> J'ai bien accès au Grub, mais une fois passé cette étape le grub de "
> ancien système " me dit :
> Loading Linux...blabla
> et tout de suite
> erreur : mémoire épuisée
> Loading initial ramdisk ...
> erreur : le noyau doit d'abord être chargé
> 
> La ligne de commande de j'utilise actuellement :
> 
> qemu-system-x86_64 \
>-enable-kvm \
>-bios /usr/share/ovmf/OVMF.fd \
>-rtc base=localtime \
>-m 128 \
 ^^
Sans précision sur l'unité utilisée, ce devraient être des
megaoctets.

>-name jessie-base \
>-boot menu=on \
>-drive format=raw,file=/dev/sdb
> 
> Si vous avez une idée pour avancer je vous remercie par avance.

L'initramfs doit être décompressé en mémoire lors du démarrage
du système.  Chez moi, il excède les 128Mio décompressé :

$ unmkinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-6.6.15-amd64 initramfs
$ du -sh initramfs
168Minitramfs

Il faut également compter l'occupation du noyau en mémoire.  En
allouant 256M ou plus, la séquence de démarrage devrait pouvoir
passer à la suite.

En espérant que ça clarifie effectivment la situation,
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Re: 'sensors -j' and "ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature in0_input: Can't read"

[Emanuel Berg]

Dan Ritter wrote:

> In general, the first thing you should try is running
> sensors-detect again, as root.

Okay, I did that ('sudo sensors-detect') and answered with the
default value to all questions, after that I did 'sensors -j'
but it displayed the same error.

> It is possible that your kernel is not loading some
> particular sensor module which would be recommended by
> sensors-detect.

So I should reboot? Let's do that.

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Re: qemu et lancer un system " reel "

[Jean Bernon]

Si tu utilises Gnome, as-tu essayé gnome-boxes ?


- Mail original - 

> De: "kaliderus" 
> À: "debian" 
> Envoyé: Jeudi 22 Février 2024 20:24:56
> Objet: qemu et lancer un system " reel "

> Bonjour la liste,

> J'ai changé de disque dur ssd récemment (je suis donc passé de "
> ancien disque " à " nouveau disque" ), et réinstallation de Debian
> sur
> le nouveau disque.

> Je voudrais avoir accès à l'ancien système, que j'ai mis dans un
> boîtier USB.

> Et je voudrais avoir accès à cet ancien système, en bootant à partir
> du nouveau via qemu (donc pas uniquement accès au système de
> fichiers).

> Petit détail : " ancien disque " est partitionné avec la partition
> d'initialisation accessible directement, les autres sont chiffrées.

> J'ai lu pas mal sur le sujet, la théorie me semble assez simple, mais
> la suite est un peu mystérieuse, même avec l'aide de quelques moteurs
> de recherche.

> J'ai bien accès au Grub, mais une fois passé cette étape le grub de "
> ancien système " me dit :
> Loading Linux...blabla
> et tout de suite
> erreur : mémoire épuisée
> Loading initial ramdisk ...
> erreur : le noyau doit d'abord être chargé

> La ligne de commande de j'utilise actuellement :

> qemu-system-x86_64 \
> -enable-kvm \
> -bios /usr/share/ovmf/OVMF.fd \
> -rtc base=localtime \
> -m 128 \
> -name jessie-base \
> -boot menu=on \
> -drive format=raw,file=/dev/sdb

> Si vous avez une idée pour avancer je vous remercie par avance.

qemu et lancer un system " reel "

[kaliderus]

Bonjour la liste,

J'ai changé de disque dur ssd récemment (je suis donc passé de "
ancien disque " à " nouveau disque" ), et réinstallation de Debian sur
le nouveau disque.

Je voudrais avoir accès à l'ancien système, que j'ai mis dans un boîtier USB.

Et je voudrais avoir accès à cet ancien système, en bootant à partir
du nouveau via qemu (donc pas uniquement accès au système de
fichiers).

Petit détail : " ancien disque " est partitionné avec la partition
d'initialisation accessible directement, les autres sont chiffrées.

J'ai lu pas mal sur le sujet, la théorie me semble assez simple, mais
la suite est un peu mystérieuse, même avec l'aide de quelques moteurs
de recherche.

J'ai bien accès au Grub, mais une fois passé cette étape le grub de "
ancien système " me dit :
Loading Linux...blabla
et tout de suite
erreur : mémoire épuisée
Loading initial ramdisk ...
erreur : le noyau doit d'abord être chargé

La ligne de commande de j'utilise actuellement :

qemu-system-x86_64 \
   -enable-kvm \
   -bios /usr/share/ovmf/OVMF.fd \
   -rtc base=localtime \
   -m 128 \
   -name jessie-base \
   -boot menu=on \
   -drive format=raw,file=/dev/sdb

Si vous avez une idée pour avancer je vous remercie par avance.

Re: which package to file a bug report ?

[Frank Weißer]

Marco Moock:

Am 22.02.2024 um 13:18:48 Uhr schrieb Frank Weißer:


I use to encrypt my swap and /var/tmp partitions during
installation.


That is LUKS.


the partition tool in debian installer offers me randomized keys
for that and has 'delete partition' set to 'yes', which costs lot
of time, not necessary on new hdd/ssd and - my opinion - on
randomized keys. I propose switching to 'no', when selecting
randomized keys.


Why? A user can rather easy select what he wants.


As I said: My opinion; if you miss setting 'no' you have to wait a lot
of time...


Further I can select ext2 or swap for partition format.


That is really strange. swap is only for the special-purpose swap 
partition.



Yes, I choose it for the swap partition


I use ext2 for /var/tmp, but - in /etc/crypttab the marker 'tmp' is
missing for the /var/tmp partition


Which marker?


This one:
frank@pc:~$ cat /etc/crypttab
sda4_crypt /dev/sda4 /dev/urandom cipher=aes-xts-
plain64,size=256,swap,discard
sda5_crypt /dev/sda5 /dev/urandom cipher=aes-xts-
plain64,size=256,tmp,discard
 ^^^

crypttab is only for decrypting the partition and creating a device 
file for the encrypted one.



- in /etc/fstab ext2 is set instead of ext4, that cryptsetup
defaults to. So on reboot I end up in emergency mode.


If you format it in ext2, choose that. Or was that an automatic
decision by the installer?

I only choose ext2 for formatting the encrypted partition, because 
nothing else is offered. Despite that the partition in fact is getting 
formatted ext4, so the entry ext2 in /etc/fstab leads into emergency mode.


I think the partitioning tool in installer should offer to format the 
encrypted partition in ext4, as LUKS (?) does, instead of ext2 and must 
write ext4 to /etc/fstab, as this is, how it ends up.

Re: Issue with USB External Keyboard, External Mouse, and Screen Brightness on Dell Laptop

[David Wright]

On Thu 22 Feb 2024 at 13:49:54 (-0300), Marcelo Laia wrote:

> Inspiron 5547 01 OCT. 2014
> 
> Some hardware details:
> 
> - BIOS:
>   - Vendor: Dell Inc.
>   - Version: A13
>   - Date: 05/27/2019
> - CPU:
>   - Product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4510U CPU @ 2.00GHz
> - Memory:
>   - Size: 16GB

[ … ]

> After unplugging the power cable, i.e., the battery is discharging:
> 
> After a few seconds, the screen brightness is set to zero. The mouse
> remains active, and I can use it for a few more seconds, when it
> also becomes disabled. From then on, only the touchpad and internal
> keyboard are functional.

[ … ]

> Any other suggestions? It seems to me that it's not related to
> power, however, what is the specific list for energy-related issues? 

My advice would be to prepare for a day when you see nothing from
the moment you switch it on.

Here's a log of what happened with my Dell D430 laptop, purchased in
2008 as a stop-gap, acquired by me in 2009. First the battery packs:

  2014-02-12 Large battery started to go bad. Charging light started
  constantly flashing a pattern: four yellows and a longer
  green. Apart from that, everything works ok: the battery stays at
  five lights, and the acpi variables all show sensible
  values. However, the battery discharges much more quickly than it
  should, particularly early on, so some cells probably don't work
  properly.

  2015-03-29 Started to switch itself off when the power cable was
  disconnected. It appears that the battery is not actually connected
  to the computer when this happens.

  2015-03-31 The large battery finally gave up. When the charge button
  is pressed, only LEDS 1, 3 and 5 light up, but flashing. Otherwise,
  dead. Disposed of the large battery in Best Buy's foyer and started
  using the small one.

And the screen:

  2011-10-21 Started to switch itself off unaccountably every so
  often. No freeze, no kernel panic, but just like holding down the
  power switch. It will have been running a while, and usually it
  happens when the machine or lid is moved.

  2017-01-22 After a day or two of slight flickering in brightness,
  the screen blanked out a few times during the day. The machine was
  still running, and so X could be quit and restarted, and rebooted
  too. The screen would come back, but often disappear almost
  immediately, even while the Dell splash screen was being displayed
  at switch-on. It went away entirely the same day.

  2018-06-19 After being depowered for a week, the battery capacity
  had fallen to 2%. However, on AC the screen started working again,
  though it just flickered a little all the time. Took the opportunity
  to demote Internal HDD to below USB and Optical Drive in the BIOS.
  Got about three minutes before it reverted.

  2020-04-16 Started to crash, and eventually failed to boot.
  Obviously difficult to diagnose when there's no display at power-on,
  so scrapped.

If you're wondering why I kept it so long, I could use an external
monitor to display its X server screen, but neither the BIOS nor
the console would work that way, so I had to type blind until I got
into X. With a 30 second countdown, I could operate the Grub screen
blind. I also managed to install buster in text mode by copying what
I typed while installing on another PC at the same time. (I might
have been able to clone jessie into the other partition, but that
would have then required two dist-upgrades.)

Cheers,
David.

Re: Issue with USB External Keyboard, External Mouse, and Screen Brightness on Dell Laptop

[Charles Curley]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 13:49:54 -0300
Marcelo Laia  wrote:

> Thank you all for the invaluable assistance provided. Unfortunately,
> the issue has resurfaced today. I don't believe it's related to the
> age of the hardware, although my Inspiron 5547-A20 is from 2014, as
> indicated below:

A stab in the dark:

I take it that you ran the upower --dump command while the battery was
discharging. 10,916 V looks a bit odd to me. What does a dump show when
the battery is fully charged? I wonder if that voltage is too low to
support the laptop.

My two ancient Lenovos (2011 and 2012) are both showing much better
values than that.

The difference between the energy-full and energy-full-design values,
and the capacity both lead me to wonder if it isn't time to buy a new
battery (or maybe a new or refurbished laptop).

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Re: Missing http_async_client.so in the `kamailio-extra-modules`

[Charles Curley]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:13:46 +0500
Евгений Гостьков  wrote:

> Can you add http_async_client.so to deb package
> `kamailio-extra-modules` or maybe make distinct deb package like a
> `kamailio-http-async-client` ?

Have you checked with kamailio support resources (mail lists, web
sites, etc.)? If that doesn't produce results, I suggest you file a bug
against kamailio-extra-modules.

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compatibilité matérielle Debian Testing Asus PRIME B650-Plus + AMD Ryzen 7 8700G + Corsaire VEgeance Black 2x16Go DDR5 5200MHz CL40

[Basile Starynkevitch]

Bonsoir,

Est ce ia carte mère et le processeur susdits sont compatible Debian 
Testing? En particulier pour faire tourner un serveur Xorg et Gimp. Je 
m'interroge sur la compatibilité de la carte mère avec le coprocesseur 
graphique du AMD Ryzen  7 8700G.


(l'usage principal étant le traitement d'images numériques, notamment 
avec Gimp et Inkscape; accessoirement la compilation par GCC)


Pour ceux qui connaissent materiel.net les composants qu'on souhaite 
assembler sont listés en https://materiel.net/s/5CKV6K et vos critiques 
constructives sont bienvenues (pour un usage professionnel pour un 
photographe professionnel)


Merci

NB. Je me réjouis de l'arrêt de la Cour de Cassation 
https://www.courdecassation.fr/decision/65cdbcdf2425a70008258563?search_api_fulltext=licence%20GPL=Rechercher_du=_au=_juridiction=all===0=1 
 
en faveur la la licence GPL, qui est celle utilisée dans le moteur 
d'inference RefPerSys dont le code source est en


https://github.com/RefPerSys/RefPerSys

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web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/
See/voir:   https://github.com/RefPerSys/RefPerSys

Re: Re: Issue with USB External Keyboard, External Mouse, and Screen Brightness on Dell Laptop

[Marcelo Laia]

Dear Debian Users,

Thank you all for the invaluable assistance provided. Unfortunately, the issue 
has resurfaced today. I don't believe it's related to the age of the hardware, 
although my Inspiron 5547-A20 is from 2014, as indicated below:

Inspiron 5547 01 OCT. 2014

Some hardware details:

- BIOS:
  - Vendor: Dell Inc.
  - Version: A13
  - Date: 05/27/2019
- CPU:
  - Product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4510U CPU @ 2.00GHz
- Memory:
  - Size: 16GB

Today, the battery still had 66% charge when this strange problem occurred. 
It's worth mentioning that in all these days, between my last post here on the 
list and today, I always use the battery until it reaches between 20-10%, at 
which point I plug in the charger and let it charge until it reaches 95-100%.

I ran the following commands:

With the power cable plugged into the power grid, i.e., the battery is charging:

:~$ sudo lsusb -t

/:  Bus 001.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci-pci/2p, 480M
|__ Port 001: Dev 002, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/8p, 480M
|__ Port 005: Dev 003, If 0, Class=Wireless, Driver=btusb, 12M
|__ Port 005: Dev 003, If 1, Class=Wireless, Driver=btusb, 12M
|__ Port 006: Dev 004, 12M
|__ Port 007: Dev 005, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, 
Driver=rtsx_usb, 480M
|__ Port 008: Dev 006, If 0, Class=Video, Driver=uvcvideo, 480M
|__ Port 008: Dev 006, If 1, Class=Video, Driver=uvcvideo, 480M
/:  Bus 002.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/9p, 480M
|__ Port 002: Dev 007, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 
1.5M
/:  Bus 003.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 5000M
:~$

:~$ ls /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/
1-1  1-1.5  1-1.6  1-1.7  1-1.8  2-2  bind  module  uevent  unbind  usb1  usb2  
usb3
:~$ 


After unplugging the power cable, i.e., the battery is discharging:

After a few seconds, the screen brightness is set to zero. The mouse remains 
active, and I can use it for a few more seconds, when it also becomes disabled. 
From then on, only the touchpad and internal keyboard are functional.

:~$ sudo lsusb -t

/:  Bus 001.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci-pci/2p, 480M
|__ Port 001: Dev 002, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/8p, 480M
|__ Port 005: Dev 003, If 0, Class=Wireless, Driver=btusb, 12M
|__ Port 005: Dev 003, If 1, Class=Wireless, Driver=btusb, 12M
|__ Port 006: Dev 004, 12M
|__ Port 007: Dev 005, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, 
Driver=rtsx_usb, 480M
|__ Port 008: Dev 006, If 0, Class=Video, Driver=uvcvideo, 480M
|__ Port 008: Dev 006, If 1, Class=Video, Driver=uvcvideo, 480M
/:  Bus 002.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/9p, 480M
/:  Bus 003.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 5000M
:~$ 


~$ ls /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/
1-1  1-1.5  1-1.6  1-1.7  1-1.8  bind  module  uevent  unbind  usb1  usb2  usb3
:~$ 

:~$ echo '2-2' | sudo tee /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/bind 
2-2

tee: /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/bind: No device
:~$ 


:~$ upower --dump
Device: /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/line_power_ACAD
  native-path:  ACAD
  power supply: yes
  updated:  qui 22 fev 2024 13:23:50 (182 seconds ago)
  has history:  no
  has statistics:   no
  line-power
warning-level:   none
online:  no
icon-name:  'ac-adapter-symbolic'

Device: /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1
  native-path:  BAT1
  vendor:   SANYO
  model:DELL WYT3M94Q
  serial:   0038
  power supply: yes
  updated:  qui 22 fev 2024 13:26:31 (21 seconds ago)
  has history:  yes
  has statistics:   yes
  battery
present: yes
rechargeable:yes
state:   discharging
warning-level:   none
energy:  23,9982 Wh
energy-empty:0 Wh
energy-full: 36,4857 Wh
energy-full-design:  59,94 Wh
energy-rate: 30,0588 W
voltage: 10,916 V
charge-cycles:   N/A
time to empty:   47,9 minutes
percentage:  65%
capacity:60,8704%
technology:  lithium-ion
icon-name:  'battery-full-symbolic'
  History (charge):
1708619191  65,000  discharging
1708619161  66,000  discharging
1708619101  67,000  discharging
  History (rate):
1708619101  30,059  discharging

Device: /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/DisplayDevice
  power supply: yes
  updated:  qui 22 fev 2024 13:26:31 (21 seconds ago)
  has history:  no
  has statistics:   no
  battery
present: yes
state:   discharging
warning-level:   none
energy:  23,9982 Wh
energy-full: 36,4857 Wh
energy-rate: 30,0588 W
charge-cycles:   N/A
time to empty:   47,9 minutes
percentage:  

Missing http_async_client.so in the `kamailio-extra-modules`

[Евгений Гостьков]

Package: kamailio-extra-modules
Version: 5.6.3-2


Information for package
https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/kamailio-extra-modules say about
kamailio module `http_async_client`

But the package doesn't install them.

https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/amd64/kamailio-extra-modules/filelist

in file list it doesn't exist.

This is doc for module.
https://www.kamailio.org/docs/modules/5.6.x/modules/http_async_client.html


Can you add http_async_client.so to deb package
`kamailio-extra-modules` or maybe make distinct deb package like a
`kamailio-http-async-client` ?

Re: Thank you Debian

[Pierre-Elliott Bécue]

> Subject: Thank you Debian

You're very welcome!

Thanks for providing this ansible repo. I added it to my bookmarks
to share it when people ask me for advice.

(Some people replied with sound advice regarding your questions so I
won't answer them again).

Regards,
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Re: Meeting with the Development Team

[Nicholas Geovanis]

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 3:04 AM  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 08:40:32AM +, Ray Galt wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to reach out to the decision-maker in the IT environment
> within your company.
>
> [...]
>
> Sometimes, satire is written by marketing departments. Or by
> some LLM run in reverse posing as such -- these days, you
> just can't know. As far as I'm concerned, they all pass the
> Turing test with flying colours.
>

Proving once again that human intelligence and artificial intelligence have
nothing whatsoever in common. Can't even define the word in either context
:-)

SCNR
> --
> t
>

Re: which package to file a bug report ?

[Marco Moock]

Am 22.02.2024 um 13:18:48 Uhr schrieb Frank Weißer:

> I use to encrypt my swap and /var/tmp partitions during installation.

That is LUKS.

> the partition tool in debian installer offers me randomized keys for 
> that and has 'delete partition' set to 'yes', which costs lot of
> time, not necessary on new hdd/ssd and - my opinion - on randomized
> keys. I propose switching to 'no', when selecting randomized keys.

Why?
A user can rather easy select what he wants.

> Further I can select ext2 or swap for partition format.

That is really strange. swap is only for the special-purpose swap
partition.

> I use ext2 for /var/tmp, but
> - in /etc/crypttab the marker 'tmp' is missing for the /var/tmp
> partition

Which marker?
crypttab is only for decrypting the partition and creating a device
file for the encrypted one.

> - in /etc/fstab ext2 is set instead of ext4, that cryptsetup defaults 
> to. So on reboot I end up in emergency mode.

If you format it in ext2, choose that.
Or was that an automatic decision by the installer?

-- 
Gruß
Marco

Spam und Werbung bitte an ichschickerekl...@cartoonies.org

Re: Thank you Debian

[Michel Verdier]

On 2024-02-22, an...@rodier.me wrote:

>> What makes you chose ansible instead of a debian package applying your
>> scripts and configurations?
>
> I didn't want to create a new distribution, I wanted scripts to
> configure a bare distribution, that anyone could maintain using the
> standard Debian procedures afterwards.

Doing your own package with own configurations is not doing a
distribution. It's doing a .deb and putting it in a local repo. Then it's
just a part of the apt update/upgrade process.

> Also, if you have a look to the solution, you will see that the
> integration between all the packages is not appropriate to the packages
> modification.

Your own package don't change regular packages, it just runs scripts and
puts configurations. Just as ansible does but more integrated in debian
packaging system.

Re: 'sensors -j' and "ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature in0_input: Can't read"

[Dan Ritter]

Emanuel Berg wrote: 
> sensors(1) and in particular the command 'sensors -j' now
> reports
> 
>   ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature in0_input: Can't read
>   ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature in1_input: Can't read
> 
> for the CPU and GPU temperatures.
> 
> This previously worked so I don't know why it doesn't all of
> a sudden. Some sysfs driver issue? Or hardware
> malfunction? Unlikely?

In general, the first thing you should try is running
sensors-detect again, as root.

It is possible that your kernel is not loading some particular
sensor module which would be recommended by sensors-detect.

Depending on the hardware, there can also be BIOS or equivalent
features which turn on or off various sensors.

-dsr-

Re: Thank you Debian

[andre]

On 22/02/2024 11:58, Michel Verdier  wrote:

On 2024-02-21, Andre Rodier wrote:

> A few years ago, I created a set of Ansible scripts to code what I was already
> doing manually, so I could rebuild my server from scratch.

What makes you chose ansible instead of a debian package applying your
scripts and configurations?


I didn't want to create a new distribution, I wanted scripts to configure a 
bare distribution, that anyone could maintain using the standard Debian 
procedures afterwards.

Also, if you have a look to the solution, you will see that the integration 
between all the packages is not appropriate to the packages modification.



> - What is the best approach to check if there is any vulnerability in the
>   packages configuration ?
> - Is there any service that could audit the deployment code or the
>configuration files ?

There is some debian packages for internal checks: rkhunter, tiger,
lynis, checksecurity, john, etc
Also OpenVAS https://openvas.org/ (fork from nessus) and other tools in
Kali Linux (debian-based)

Re: Booten vanaf USB steeds trager

[Gijs Hillenius]

Ik lees Geert zijn reactie en dacht toen aan hoe ik zelf eerder mijn
kernels moest verkleinen?

dat was met

modules=dep

in

/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/module

'sensors -j' and "ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature in0_input: Can't read"

[Emanuel Berg]

sensors(1) and in particular the command 'sensors -j' now
reports

  ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature in0_input: Can't read
  ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature in1_input: Can't read

for the CPU and GPU temperatures.

This previously worked so I don't know why it doesn't all of
a sudden. Some sysfs driver issue? Or hardware
malfunction? Unlikely?

Don't really know what "I changed" for this to happen, since
I didn't use the command for some time and possibly quite
a few things might have happened since then. But I remember
well that it worked at some point.

Here is what strace says:

  https://dataswamp.org/~incal/error/sensors-j.txt

TIA

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal

Re: OT (Muy, muy OT): Barra herramientas MS-Excel [SOLUCIONADO]

[Javier ArgentinaBBAR]

El mié, 21 feb 2024 a las 7:57, Camaleón () escribió:
>
> El 2024-02-20 a las 10:15 -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:
>
> (...)
>
> > El problema, es la cinta de herramientas de porquería que tiene 3cms
> > de alto en la pantalla; la muestro y la oculto con el consabido
> > "Ctrl+F1", pero
> > ...pero quiero recuperar mi vieja (soy viejo) y súper eficiente "Barra
> > de herramientas" estándar.
> > Esa porquería de cinta tiene no más de 6 o 7 comandos, en el espacio
> > que estoy acostumbrado a tener más de 30 con botones chiquitos.
> >
> > La pregunta: ¿alguno conoce de algún "mod" que reemplace la maldita
> > cinta por la vieja y eficiente Barra de herramientas en Excel?
>
> Supongo que te refieres a la versión de MS Office instalable en disco,
> no la que se ejecuta en la web.
>
> Puedes seguir dos vías:
>
> 1. Usar un complemento o programa (mod) instalable para que te devuelva
> el menú clásico o semi-clásico;
>
> 2. Ajustar la cinta a tu gusto (modo simplificado, reducido, no
> mostrar, personalizar botones y órdenes...).
>
> Para la opción 1), Internet devuelve varias opciones¹²³.
>
> Aunque no soy partidaria de instalar este tipo de modificadores, si el
> ansia/necesidad del menú clásico es grande, mejor probarlos en una
> máquina virtual antes ver cuál se adapta visualmente mejor a lo que se
> busca, comprobar que no vienen con bicho dentro, que no dejan
> colgado/interfieren con el programa, etc...
>
> Para la opcíón 2):
>
> Use the Simplified Ribbon
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/use-the-simplified-ribbon-44bef9c3-295d-4092-b7f0-f471fa629a98
>
> Show or hide the ribbon in Office
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/office/show-or-hide-the-ribbon-in-office-d946b26e-0c8c-402d-a0f7-c6efa296b527#ID0EBBD=Newer_Versions
>
> ¹https://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/
> ²https://gregmaxey.com/word_tip_pages/ribbon_menu_control.html
> ³https://www.officeclassicmenu.com/en/index.php
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>

Una vez más.
¡Muchas gracias!

Soy feliz de nuevo y a la antigua.
Instalé el de https://www.officeclassicmenu.com/en/index.php
Usaré los 30 días de evaluación, y si va bien, compraré la licencia.
Hasta ahora, luego de un día de prueba, va bien.

JAP

which package to file a bug report ?

[Frank Weißer]

Hello!

I use to encrypt my swap and /var/tmp partitions during installation.

the partition tool in debian installer offers me randomized keys for 
that and has 'delete partition' set to 'yes', which costs lot of time, 
not necessary on new hdd/ssd and - my opinion - on randomized keys. I 
propose switching to 'no', when selecting randomized keys.


Further I can select ext2 or swap for partition format. I use ext2 for 
/var/tmp, but

- in /etc/crypttab the marker 'tmp' is missing for the /var/tmp partition
- in /etc/fstab ext2 is set instead of ext4, that cryptsetup defaults 
to. So on reboot I end up in emergency mode.


What package have I to file the bug report against?

Please apologize my poor english.

Kind regards

readU
Frank

Re: Thank you Debian

[Michel Verdier]

On 2024-02-21, Andre Rodier wrote:

> A few years ago, I created a set of Ansible scripts to code what I was already
> doing manually, so I could rebuild my server from scratch.

What makes you chose ansible instead of a debian package applying your
scripts and configurations?

> - What is the best approach to check if there is any vulnerability in the
>  packages configuration ?
> - Is there any service that could audit the deployment code or the
>   configuration files ?

There is some debian packages for internal checks: rkhunter, tiger,
lynis, checksecurity, john, etc
Also OpenVAS https://openvas.org/ (fork from nessus) and other tools in
Kali Linux (debian-based)

tree view gone in nautilus (gnome files) for debian ?

[Wim Bertels]

Hello,

since d12 (at least?) i can no longer view files and directory in a
tree view? is this intentional?

tnx

Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

[Ralph Aichinger]

Hello!

I know this is a loaded topic. I really don't want to discuss the
political aspects of the "why", but just want to know the facts, i.e.
how far this has been progressed in Debian.

Is there anything planned to get "master/slave" terminology out of
network bonding/LACP in Debian (or Linux kernel or whoever decides
this terminology)? I know these things are slow to change, just
wondering.

https://wiki.debian.org/Bonding

/ralph

Re: Orphaned Inode Problem

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Henning Follmann wrote on 22/02/2024 08:43:


You didn't answer where you read that. I would be interested in that. I do
not claim to be an expert on this and I would like to understand it better.

-H


Concededly, I didn't noted that down. It was a discussion like in this blog:

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=349099

Regards,
Jörg.

Opgelost (maar heel anders) Re: sshd Match regel

[Gijs Hillenius]

hallo

Het ging om een versie van Curl .. dan sftp://file-server wilde doen met
alleen rsa/dsa. De SSH op dezelfde host ondersteunen ecdsa en zo gewoon.

Allebei MotioneyeOS, voor het laatst opgewaardeed in 2020. Ik zag geen
manier om Curl te vertellen ecdsa te doen. 

Dus ... Ik heb het transport omgedraaid.. ik haal nu de files op vanaf
de file server, dat kan met een cron job.

Re: Meeting with the Development Team

[tomas]

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 08:40:32AM +, Ray Galt wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to reach out to the decision-maker in the IT environment within 
> your company.

[...]

Sometimes, satire is written by marketing departments. Or by
some LLM run in reverse posing as such -- these days, you
just can't know. As far as I'm concerned, they all pass the
Turing test with flying colours.

SCNR
-- 
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Meeting with the Development Team

[Ray Galt]

Hello,

I would like to reach out to the decision-maker in the IT environment within 
your company.

We are a well-established digital agency in the European market. Our solutions 
eliminate the need to build and maintain in-house IT and programming 
departments, hire interface designers, or employ user experience specialists.

We take responsibility for IT functions while simultaneously reducing the costs 
of maintenance. We provide support that ensures access to high-quality 
specialists and continuous maintenance of efficient hardware and software 
infrastructure.

Companies that thrive are those that leverage market opportunities faster than 
their competitors. Guided by this principle, we support gaining a competitive 
advantage by providing comprehensive IT support.

May I present what we can do for you?


Best regards
Ray Galt

Re: Booten vanaf USB steeds trager

[Paul van der Vlis]

Hoi allen,

Op 20-02-2024 om 09:31 schreef Paul van der Vlis:

Hallo,

Ik heb een setup waarbij ik boot vanaf USB met grub. Het valt me op dat 
dit steeds trager wordt, op dezelfde machine:


Debian10:  18 seconden
Debian11:  60 seconden
Debian12:  ruim 120 seconden

Wat vooral lang duurt is "loading initial ramdisk", het lichtje is dan 
reuze hard aan het knipperen. Het gaat verder allemaal wel goed.


Op een snellere machine is het wel wat sneller, maar het blijft 
onacceptabel traag.


Ik heb ook al de kernel-optie "debug" gegeven, dan maakt initramfs een 
log. Maar omdat er geen tijden bij staan zegt het me weinig over wat nu 
zo lang duurt. Dmesg geeft wel tijden, maar ik kom er niet uit.


Ik zie hetzelfde ook op andere machines. Overigens niet bij een Debian 
installer of livestick, dat gaat wel goed. Maar als ik echt Debian 
installeer op een USB device start het traag, dezelfde SSD aan SATA gaat 
wel goed. Ik heb al verschillende USB naar SATA kabels geprobeerd, maar 
dat lijkt ook niet het probleem.


Hebben jullie ideeën hoe ik dit booten vanaf USB sneller krijg?


Ik heb in elk geval een work-arround. Dit probleem blijkt niet te spelen 
in UEFI modus.


Groet,
Paul



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https://vandervlis.nl/