Re: check superblock
pinniped wrote: Make sure the RAID device is set to be 'persistent'. Also check backwards through scripts to see where md2 might fail. pinniped: I've noticed the last week or two that you've done a tremendous job at providing answers to a lot of questions. Great work! However, might I suggest that you provide some context to your answers? Each post of yours I've seen over this time period has just come out of the blue, and the only way I would know to what issue(s) you are responding would be for me to go dig in the mailing list archives. You would do me, and I suspect others, a favor by including enough of a snippet of the original post to provide some background to your answers. Thanks! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Sid iceweasel already running when opening second link from T-bird
Before yesterday's upgrade of Sid's Iceweasel (and the subsequent creation of a new profile -- I only moved my bookmarks.html from my old profile into the automagically-created new profile, and added Image Zoom, Forefastfox-enhanced, and Adblocker), I could click on a link in Thunderbird and have that link open in a new tab in Iceweasel. Now, if Iceweasel is not running, I can click on a T-bird link and Iceweasel will open to that link. However, if I then click on a second link, I get the error Iceweasel is already running, but it is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Iceweasel process, or restart your system. Any clues? Thanks! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Sid iceweasel already running when opening second link from T-bird
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/20/07 09:23, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: Hi On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 08:47:20AM -0600, Kent West wrote: Before yesterday's upgrade of Sid's Iceweasel (and the subsequent creation of a new profile -- I only moved my bookmarks.html from my old profile into the automagically-created new profile, and added Image Zoom, Forefastfox-enhanced, and Adblocker), I could click on a link in Thunderbird and have that link open in a new tab in Iceweasel. Now, if Iceweasel is not running, I can click on a T-bird link and Iceweasel will open to that link. However, if I then click on a second link, I get the error Iceweasel is already running, but it is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Iceweasel process, or restart your system. Any clues? Since you told from a upgrade in unstable, it may be related to #411479 in the DBTS [1]. Regards, Salvatore [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=411479 The patch mentioned in this link solved the issue for me. Yep, that bug looks like my problem. Thanks! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why not try lilypond
Bob McGowan wrote: David Baron wrote: On Friday 16 February 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not seen anyone in this thread suggest lilypond ? There are several GUI notation programs around opensource. Generally, I prefer denemo, for reasons related to typing, but both do work OK. Wow! This task just keeps getting easier and easier! Thanks, folks! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with debian
Andrei Popescu wrote: It would have been better to quote a few lines, but the thread is still fresh. It's not like he posted to an age-old thread, where context is really important. Not meaning to take sides, but I myself don't keep up with threads; I deal with a message, then toss it and the related messages. If another message comes in two hours later, I expect context, or lacking that, am willing sometimes to go find the archive if I need a reminder for my short-sighted Quick-On-the-Delete-button habit. It's understandable that a newbie posting will expect others on the list to remember him and his posts, even if they're only two minutes old. (After all, they're important to the poster, so they _must_ be important to others also.) But even so, that expectation is wrong and rude. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:53:41AM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Kent West wrote: (Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian question.) Not an offtopic question. You are using Debian, so this is relevant IMHO. Great, I have a bad case of flatulence. Should I see a Doctor or is it just a passing fad? Heh, passing fad -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why not try lilypond
debian wrote: I have not seen anyone in this thread suggest lilypond ? I cannot pretend to be an expert, but its results for me so far are really quite delightful. Documentation is very good. It does guitar TABS and all that sort of thing. Joe Mc Cool Ag! That is TOO easy! This is wonderful! Thanks, Joe! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Kent West wrote:
What I'm concerned about is the chord names (A, D, etc) need to line up
with the word where the chords change, which means exact placement will
be necessary.
---LaTeX-File---
\documentclass[a4paper,10pt]{article}
\newlength{\chordlength}
\newcommand{\chord}[2]{\settowidth{\chordlength}{#2}\parbox[b]{\chordlength}{#1\\#2}}
\begin{document}
\section{Verse 1}
\begin{verse}
I wanna m\chord{A}{a}ke you smile\\
Wh\chord{Bm}{e}never you're sad\\
C\chord{C\#m}{a}rry you around\\
When your arthr\chord{D}{i}tis is bad\\
\chord{A}{A}ll I wanna do \chord{E}{i}s\\
Grow \chord{D}{o}ld with y\chord{A}{o}u. \quad \chord{E}{ }
\end{verse}
\end{document}
---/LatexFile---
Wow! That looks promising. I'll play with it later today.
Thanks!
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Re: Can't get to a console from gdm screen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem on a debian etch machine: When the gdm screen comes, Ctrl-Alt-Fn doesn't take me to any console. I have to log in as user, then it works. Is this some special kind of security setting ??? I have this problem since a long, long time and could live with it, but now one of my colleagues has the same problem and asks for advice... According to http://www.debianhelp.org/node/1619: I've also been suffering from ctrl-alt-fn not working since a major upgrade a few months ago, and found this page while searching. I believe I've now found the solution. I have installed the xkb-data package and removed the xlibs package. xlibs provided a set of keyboard configuration files under /etc/X11/xkb, while xkb-data provides the same stuff under /usr/share/X11/xkb. But there must be some minor difference between the two versions since the xlibs stuff doesn't have working ctrl-alt-fn while the xkb-data does. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:12:55 -0600, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The material looks like standard guitar tabs you'd find on the web, like this, from http://www.guitaretab.com/a/adam-sandler/211.html: Package: musixtex Description: Typeset music scores with TeX This package contains the MusiXTeX macros, musixflex, MusiXTeX User's Manual in LaTeX source and DVI formats, and example source MusiXTeX music score files. Package: musixlyr Description: a MusiXTeX extension for handling lyrics musixlyr is a set of TeX macros to be used with Taupin MusiXTeX (version T.52 or later) for typesetting vocal music. Its purpose is to compensate two drawbacks of MusiXTeX's lyrics handling: Looks promising, but the learning curve appears to be a right-angle. From page 2 of the manual: If you are not familiar with TEX at all I would recommend to find another software package to do musical typesetting. Setting up TEX and MusiXTEX on your machine and mastering it is an awesome job which gobbles up a lot of your time and disk space. But, once you master it... Hans Kuykens I tried to find a _simple_ Step1-Step2-Step3 to go from a blank text file to a finished one-liner staff, but either my googling capabilities are inadequate, or as is typical of much Free software, the folks who know how to do stuff never bother to write for those who don't. (Don't get me wrong; I very much appreciate the efforts of the developers of Free software, etc; it just sometimes gets frustrating when you're coming in as a total newb, which I am when it comes to TeX and friends.) Thanks, though! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: LaTeX with monospace material
(Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian question.) I've been using OpenOffice.org to produce paper copies of songs written for guitar, but with all the talk about LaTeX on this list lately, I got to wondering if it might be a better product. The material looks like standard guitar tabs you'd find on the web, like this, from http://www.guitaretab.com/a/adam-sandler/211.html: ADAM SANDLER THE WEDDING SINGER VOL.2 GROW OLD WITH YOU Transcribed by BEB 910 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Verse 1 A I wanna make you smile Bm Whenever you're sad C#m Carry you around D When your arthritis is bad A E All I wanna do is D A E Grow old with you. Verse 2 A I'll get you medicine Bm When your tummy aches C#m Build you a fire D When the furnace breaks AE It could be so nice D AA7 Growing old with you. Chorus D I'll miss you I'll kiss you A Give you my coat when you are cold D Need you Feed you E(hold) E D Even let you hold the remote control Verse 3 A Let me do the dishes Bm In our kitchen sink C#m Put you to bed D When you've had too much to drink A E I could be the man who DA Grows old with you E DA I wanna grow old with you What I'm concerned about is the chord names (A, D, etc) need to line up with the word where the chords change, which means exact placement will be necessary. I currently do this in OO.o with a monospace font and manually spacing over to where the chord name goes. The songs will be one (or maybe two or three short ones) to a page, with a few taking two or three pages. The pages won't be numbered, but I will want them in alphabetical order by category (mine, Christmas songs, Country songs, etc), and then a table of contents. This way I can add a new song/page without having to re-print the entire book of songs; I can just print the one song and the newly-generated table of contents, and then replace the current TOC in my book with the new one and put the new song/page into the proper place alphabetically into the book. My basic question is this: Is LaTeX suitable for this sort of document? And my second question: Is the learning curve going to be worth it, or should I just stick to OO.o which pretty much does the job already? Thanks! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X doesn't start [Was: KDE peculiarities and questions]
Ken Heard wrote: Kent West wrote: Now as a normal (non-root) user, run startx. What happens? I logged in as my user and ran startx. It returned three lines: xauth: creating new authority file /home/ken/.serverauth.3110 /etc/X11/X is not executable xinit: Server error However, as root user I was able to run startx. KDE opened in terminal F7 logged in as root without my intervention. I suspect your /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file is set to allow root only. Either edit that file manually to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk: sudo cat /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config # Xwrapper.config (Debian X Window System server wrapper configuration file) # # This file was generated by the post-installation script of the x11-common # package using values from the debconf database. # # See the Xwrapper.config(5) manual page for more information. # # This file is automatically updated on upgrades of the x11-common package # *only* if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of that package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command as root: # dpkg-reconfigure x11-common allowed_users=console nice_value=-10 or better yet, do as the file says and run dpkg-reconfigure x11-common and change the setting that way. The following issue should really be broken out into a different thread: Run ifconfig and see if you have an expected IP address; my first suspicion is that zeroconf got installed; it tends to cause problems with networking. Ifconfig only reports the loop back IP address. The IP address assigned by the gateway, 192.168.0.114, was not reported by ifconfig, presumably because the operating system cannot connect to the network. What happens when you run /etc/init.d/networking restart? What does your /etc/network/interfaces file look like? PS. No need to CC: me; I'm subscribed to the list. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using graphical environment
Kelly D Kennedy wrote: Kent you are the greatest. Worked like a charm. All updates are over the net now. I have another question I thought I would bounce off you if you do not mind. The server I am running this test environment on is an HP Proliant DL140. Dual Xeon 2.8 4 gig memory. We have 7 of these in total. This is a test machine. We currently use Solaris 9 and have grown ever more frustrated with it. What we did was swapped the (old)boot drive to a slave position and put in a new hard drive for this testing. My question is can I access the old data on the old drive with this system? It would be much easier to copy directly. (You might get more informed answers from the list rather than from me, thus I'm routing this back to the list. Having said that ...) You can almost certainly do what you're wanting to do. You don't mention if your drives are IDE, SCSI, SATA, or what, so the first thing to do is to see how your drive is being addressed. If you'll run the mount command (or do one of three or four other methods), you'll see where your current system is mounted; it'll look something like this: /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620) /dev/hda5 on /usr type ext3 (rw) /dev/hda6 on /var type ext3 (rw) /dev/hda7 on /tmp type ext3 (rw,noexec) /dev/hda8 on /home type ext3 (rw) /dev/hda9 on /usr/local type ext3 (rw) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) According to this output, my IDE hard drive is being addressed as /dev/hda (with the partition numbers appended for each mounted partition). A SCSI drive is more likely to be addressed as /dev/sda. (I'm unfamiliar with SATA drives or other more esoteric configurations, so I'm not sure how they're addressed.) Your slave drive will be addressed similarly. On a typical IDE system, there are a maximum of four drives available, listed as hda, hdb, hdc, and hdd. hda and hdb are master and slave on the primary IDE port, whereas hdc and hdd are master and slave on the secondary IDE port. So all you need to do is mount the proper drive. You can create a mount point (a directory name where the mounted slave drive will show up); something like: mkdir -p /mnt/Slowaris or mkdir /home/kelly/rickety_old_Sun_OS (You can see I don't much care for Solaris, either.) Then mount the slave drive with a command like: mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt/Slowaris The hdb3 portion will depend on how your drive is addressed by the system, and by which partition you want to mount. You can probably use cfdisk /dev/hdb to see the partitioning schemes on the hdb drive (there are other methods as well). Now you can access the files on the drive simply by copying/moving/listing/etc the files in /mnt/Slowaris. This is only a temporary mounting, which will remain mounted until the next reboot (or manual unmount, or perhaps init level change, etc). If you want it to be mounted at each boot, you'll have to add a line in /etc/fstab. Feel free to ask for clarifications, etc. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to mount Solaris disk as slave? [Was: Using graphical environment]
Kelly wrote: It is not recognizing the data on the other drive. It only sees the swap space. It is asking for the systemfile type. Here is the output. tester# mount /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro,usrquota,grpquota) proc on /proc type proc (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) tester# mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/temp4sol /dev/hdb1 looks like swapspace - not mounted mount: you must specify the filesystem type tester:# cfdisk /dev/hdb --- this gives me a fatal error --- FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder. Is it possible that Debian will not read the partitions? It's probably of type ufs. You might try mount -t ufs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/temp4sol (although partition 1 probably is swap, in which case that won't work). You'll need to find out which partition the data is on. I like cfdisk, but it's not as reliable as plain ol' fdisk. You might try fdisk instead. You mentioned having seven machines. If the other six are still running Solaris 9, you can look in it's /etc/vfstab to see what partitions hold what. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X doesn't start [Was: KDE peculiarities and questions]
Ken Heard wrote: Kent West wrote: I suspect your /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file is set to allow root only. or better yet, do as the file says and run dpkg-reconfigure x11-common and change the setting that way. I ran dpkg-reconfigure x11-common. When the option to set allowed users appeared, the option Console Users Only was highlighted; so I assume that x11-common was already configured to that option. In any event I hit Ok. Nice was set to 0; I changed it as you suggested, to -10. I then shut the machine off and did a cold boot. No change; problem persists. I'd manually look in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config to make sure it's right; sometimes the dpkg-reconfigure routine doesn't take. The three legal options for that line, according to man Xwrapper.config, are rootonly, console, and anybody. For most situations, you'd want console. I logged in as my user and ran startx. It returned three lines: xauth: creating new authority file /home/ken/.serverauth.3110 /etc/X11/X is not executable xinit: Server error What is the output of ls -lh /etc/X11/X? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk: ls -lh /etc/X11/X lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-04-28 12:11 /etc/X11/X - /usr/bin/Xorg (Yours will likely be slightly different.) Then, what is the output of ls -lh /usr/bin/Xorg? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk: ls -lh /usr/bin/Xorg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1.6M 2007-02-03 17:30 /usr/bin/Xorg You will recall however that the sudden inability to run the xserver occurred on my Sarge desktop the same day (Feb 7) as it occurred on my laptop. So I will keep on this thread that particular problem for both computers. Sarge of course does not have X-common; so I ran dpkg-reconfigure xfree86, which returned: System startup links for /etc/init.d/xfree86-common already exist. Setting up X server socket directory /tmp/.X11-unix...done. Setting up ICE socket directory /tmp/.ICE-unix...done. This brings to recollection a vague memory; seems like a year or two ago there was a problem with permissions in one or more of the Debian branches. What do these files look like? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk: ls -lha /tmp snips drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 1.0K 2007-02-08 10:22 .ICE-unix drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 1.0K 2007-02-08 10:21 .X11-unix Also, what do the perms on your /tmp directory look like? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk: ls -lhd /tmp drwxrwxrwt 14 root root 4.0K 2007-02-13 17:18 /tmp -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge box network connection broken
Ken Heard wrote: Kent West wrote: What happens when you run /etc/init.d/networking restart? Returned: Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter. Reconfiguring network interfaces...Failed to bring up eth0. done. Then a series of messages scrolled down the screen, similar, maybe identical to what appears as part of the boot-up. One line which I caught seemed to read: tried to execve (/etc/dhclient -script, ...): Permission denied followed by several attempts to connect with the network, all of which failed. Since these two problems emerged, the syslog has always shown the following: Feb 8 09:04:24 localhost kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xa000, 00:50:ba:4f:b1:24, IRQ 169 Feb 8 09:04:24 localhost kernel: eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C' whereupon the boot-up continued, trying unsuccessfully to connect to the network, including a line with execve in it, and always ending with these last two lines: Feb 8 09:04:41 localhost kdm_greet[2943]: Can't open default user face Feb 8 09:04:47 localhost kdm: :0[2948]: Session /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession execution failed: Permission denied Hmm; two Permission denied errors. Very odd. In /etc/password, is your root user defined as 0,0? What's the result of running ls -lhn /etc/dhclient-script and ls -lhn /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk ls -lhn /etc/dhclient-script -rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 6.6K 2006-12-04 10:07 /etc/dhclient-script [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk ls -lhn /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession -rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 1.4K 2006-03-28 23:13 /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X doesn't start [Was: KDE peculiarities and questions]
Ken Heard wrote: A few weeks ago I installed Etch RC1 on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 P2 laptop. The installation itself went without hitch, and I set about customizing it to my taste and installing various applications. For example I replaced Gnome with KDE, as I had been using KDE since I converted to Linux and don't want at this stage to lean a new desktop environment. Then, on 6 February -- completely out of the blue -- I booted the computer, which I had set to log on automatically to my user. Instead however of seeing the KDE desktop, I got an xterm screen, which I assumed was a fail-safe xterm session. When I tried to use it, it did not respond; the machine hung. I was however able to log in, both as root and my user, on the ordinary terminals, ctl-alt-F1 to F6. It seems to me that the xserver-xorg is broken somehow. I tried aptitude from the command line but could find no broken packages. The only configuration option I know about is dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg which was of no help. Another change I noticed that on this fatal boot-up, both the avahi-daemon, whatever that is, and the HP linux printing and imaging system failed to load. Log into an ordinary terminal, and stop/kill any X-related processes. (Use ps ax and kill as necessary, or use other means such as /etc/init.d/kdm stop). Now as a normal (non-root) user, run startx. What happens? Also check /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or /var/log/XFree86.0.log) for clues, especially lines containing EE. To make matters worse, an hour later I booted my desktop and met with the same result: a fail-safe terminal emulator and a hung machine. This failure happened to a P4 box on which I had installed Sarge and KDE in June 2005 when Sarge first came out. Other than a few glitches encountered on initial installation, it has worked perfectly ever since. Ditto. Again I used aptitude from the command line and also found no broken packages, this time the x-server being xfree86 rather than xorg. I did however discover that aptitude wanted to upgrade xserver-xfree86 to xserver-xfree86-dbg and also upgrade some of the dependencies. Two lines of the syslog read as follows: Feb 8 09:04:41 localhost kdm_greet[2943]: Can't open default user face Feb 8 09:04:47 localhost kdm: :0[2948]: Session /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession execution failed: Permission denied Unfortunately however I was unable to do any upgrades, because on this boot-up the the operating system -- for the first time ever -- was unable to connect to the LAN. As always, the NIC was detected and the driver installed. It could not connect to the network. The system tried to connect to the network five times, each time reporting Network is down, when I knew it was not. My first instinct was to check the hardware. The card was properly seated in the mainboard, and all the cables and connections worked with another computer and the print server. I swapped the NIC with another one of the same make and model from another desktop. The one swapped to that other desktop worked. The desktop previously reporting network is down still so reports with the swapped NIC which had worked before in the other desktop. The LAN, by the way, is restricted to our residence where only two desktops, one laptop, a print server and a gateway-switch are connected to it. This installation is only ever used by my spouse and me. Run ifconfig and see if you have an expected IP address; my first suspicion is that zeroconf got installed; it tends to cause problems with networking. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StartX problem
conn intel wrote: USING $ startx $(which xterm) -- :6 , I am getting the blank screen as said and using ctrl alt backspace i am able to return back to the command prompt. Here is the output of 'lspci' attached with the email. Note :: I am getting vertical strips when default system boots or when i try to start graphical interface...in any case it shows vertical strips.but it wont go ahead of that and stucks there itself without prompting for login screen. 5)Are you getting any error messages that are not part of the log files you've included? No.. I am not getting any error message. Check /var/log/xorg.0.log (or /var/log/XFree86.0.log) and look for lines with EE or WW. They may be clues. Also, somewhere in that file should be a notice as to which configuration file it's using. Make sure that file is the same one you're tinkering with. 6)Have you tried the vga driver in XF86Config-4 instead of vesa, or have you tried dropping the DefaultDepth from 24 to 16? I have tried all the way. I'm unsure what all the way means. I'd try even dropping down to 8. I would also try the i810 driver. Also, since this is an integrated driver, that means it's using system RAM; there may be an option in the BIOS to up the available video memory; look into that. (Dell had a series of computers four or five years ago in which a certain BIOS (A03 maybe?) was buggy and didn't correctly report the 8 MB assigned in the BIOS to the OS; a firmware update solved that for me.) PC Configuration :: Pentium III processor with 128 MB ram, 80GB hardisk, Samtron '56V' monitor, logitech (serial) mouse, TVS Gold Keyboard,LG CDROM. OUTPUT :: LSPCI command :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 GMCH [Graphics Memory Controller Hub] (rev 03) :00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03) snip -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation help urgent
Galangster wrote: How do i install fglrx-driver_8.31.5.orig.tar.gz or mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org fglrx-control_8.31.5-1_amd64.deb i dont kno the first thing about this Become root; enter dpkg -i path_tofglrx-control_8.31.5-1_amd64.deb. This assumes that you have an AMD 64-bit processor (and the kernel for it); it also assumes there are no extra packages needed for the deb. Better yet would be to install it through the more normal installation method: aptitude install fglrx-control although it's an older version (8.28.8, in Sid). This method should take care of any extra packages needed. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE peculiarities and questions
Ken Heard wrote: I have KDE installed on all three of the boxes my spouse and I use. The box with Sarge installed, a P4 desktop, uses KDE 3.3.?; whereas the other two, one a P3 desktop and the other a P2 Tecra 8000 Toshiba laptop, have Etch, which uses KDE 3.5.5. The latter has some nice new features, but I have also run into four peculiarities. 1.On the P3 desktop only, the panel displays the taskbar three times. Once is surely enough. I tried to fix it by purging KDE and reinstalling it, to no avail. Any ideas on what I can do to remove this redundancy? Does this happen for all users, or just one user? If just one user, I'd rename the ~/.kde? directory for that user and restart KDE. 3.On both the laptop and desktop I seem to be stuck with the Gnome login manager. Selecting options in the System AdministrationLogin Manager of the KDE control manager are not implemented. Is there file somewhere I can substitute the KDE login manager for the Gnome one? Try aptitude install kdm and/or dpkg-reconfigure kdm. Or aptitude purge gdm. I have already made kdm the default display manager. Which is what the above commands should allow you to do. How did you accomplish this? In the KDE Control Panel stuff? -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using GUI
Kelly wrote: Hello, I am having trouble getting a new install of Debian 3.1 r4 and it boots to the command line prompt. I want it to have a graphical interface. As is it is useless to me. Could someone point me in a direction of a tutorial on how to install with GUI or how to get a new install to boot to GUI. aptitude install x-window-system kde Then either run startx as a normal user, or /etc/init.d/kdm start as root, or reboot. That should put you into X with KDE as your environment. If it fails, we'll need to know more details, such as error messages, particularly lines marked with EE in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/XFree86.0.log. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using graphical environment
Michael Pobega wrote: Sarge is a bit old for most hardware today, so depending upon your errors it may just be the simple fact that Sarge doesn't support your hardware. I'd give Etch a try before anything else snip You can download a copy of the Etch NetInstall Gulp!! Reinstall?!! No need. Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file, and change all the stable's to etch's (assuming you did a netinstall the first-time 'round, and not all from CD - otherwise you'll have to change more), then apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StartX problem
conn intel wrote: Hello friends, I am using debian for few yrs.but i havent seen such problem.. I have installed it on pentium III machine and i could not able to do startx. I am not getting graphical version. could anyone give their suggestions..? Here is the XF86config-4 , XFree86.0.log and gdm.log are attached with this email. Thank You.. Have a Nice time and good day ahead. Ankur. I don't see any obvious errors in your XFree86.0.log. However, I'm confused by your mention of startx and inclusion of a gdm.log file. If gdm is running, then I would expect startx to fail. If gdm tried to start, but failed, and then you manually tried startx, I'm unsure if gdm might not still be causing blockage (although I don't think so). Can you give us a bit more detail? Do you, or do you not have gdm installed? Is gdm trying to start and then failing? Are you then trying to run startx? Are you doing so as a normal user or as root (I believe root will fail on startx by default)? Are you getting any error messages that are not part of the log files you've included? Has it ever worked on this machine? What is the output of lspci? How much RAM is on your video card? Have you tried the vga driver in XF86Config-4 instead of vesa, or have you tried dropping the DefaultDepth from 24 to 16? -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com
Re: How to switch to text mode
Ron Johnson wrote: What you do is purge the packages gdm, xdm kdm. You'll only have one of them installed, but I list them all just to be comprehensive. Not quite all; wdm is also a possibility; perhaps others. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
Glenn Becker wrote: I am running xfce4 but I want to boot the system to console instead of gui. What am I supposed to do? IIRC you need to go into /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/ and mv 'S99gdm' to 'K99gdm' wherever it appears. Same if you see 'S99kdm' anywhere. This will keep the GUI login splash from starting up. Whereas this will work (assuming you're using gdm or kdm instead of xdm or wdm), you'll have to do this for each runlevel. I find it easier to temporarily disable [gkxw]dm by editing /etc/init.d/[gkxw]dm and putting the single line exit 0 as the first non-comment line in the script (or, for ease of finding later, just as the first line). This way you only have to edit one file rather than five or so. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No space in new mail message on login
Andrew Critchlow wrote: I have a question which I have searched the internet and cannot find anything about this issue: When a user logs into the debian box they get You Have newmail For some reason there isn't a space in between 'new' and 'mail'. Anyone know how to correct this? Thanks 1. Please use a meaningful subject line. Thanks. 2. Does this happen when logging in at a console (text-only screen), or via a GUI-fied login screen. If the GUI screen, is it xdm, gdm, kdm, or wdm (or other)? 3. Does it happen for all users, or just one user? (You may need to create a new user to test with.) -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I have a question...
Danesh Daroui wrote: Zero Hiroshi wrote: I just want to know if the Debian OS is compatible with Windows XP. I use XP on my laptop, and I have an application that wont work right because my laptop doesnt have have the HAL device, which is a .deb file. I need to open it using Debian, without losing anything on my computer. Please respond as soon as you can. Thank you. -SA Gallo United States Navy You can run a Windows program on Debian or any other Linux system using Windows emulator on Linux called WINE. * Only on Intel-flavored machines (which is applicable in this case). * WINE is beta software, and not all Win apps run well, or even at all, although many do. Zero's original question doesn't really make sense. He's running Windows XP, not Debian, and has an application that won't work right because his laptop doesn't have the HAL device. What does that mean? Zero, you really need to provide more information, such as the name of the program you're trying to run. If it's a .deb file, it won't run from within Windows; did someone tell you to run this .deb file, or what? How did you get the information that your this .deb file needs a HAL device; what are you doing to generate any errors referring to HAL, and what do the errors say exactly? -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasel, Firefox!
Terence wrote: IIRC it also was the name of a character in the cartoon strip Popeye. Close. Eugene was the character's name; Jeep was the type of creature he was. He was Eugene the Jeep. Jeep jeep! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thank you
moggy wrote: firstly i'd like to say thanks to you who got back to me on this problem... the disk i have is a live knoppix disk that came with debian sarge which is as kent had suggested it was... i863 or somthing like that, i cant remember without looking... i did what was suggested with the resolution, but alas, all i got was a screen with some multi coloured lines running across the screen sometimes at a slant (much like the loading screen when the tape was loading up on an amstrad lol) i shall take a look at the read me file and see what that says, should have thought of that first, oops and will let you kind people know how i get on, or if im still stuck, again thanks for the info :-) I don't recall what kind of machine or vidcard you have, but for a few years there recently Dell was shipping BIOSes that only allocated 1MB RAM to the integrated video system. If you have an integrated video system, you might jump into the computer's BIOS and see if there's any tweaking you can do there. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best way to shrink Windows on new laptop?
Anthony Campbell wrote: I'm getting a new Thinkpad Z61M and shall be installing Debian (naturally!). I'd therefore like to keep Windows, at least for the moment, so I'll need to shrink its partition. Two questions: a. How small could its partition be? Would 10 GB be enough, or too much? 10 sounds about right; if it's only Windows, you can get by with less. If it includes a standard set of apps, ten is about right. If it includes large apps or many profiles or large profiles (with A/V files, etc), you'll need more. b. 3.5: If I understand the Debian Installation manual correctly, I can do this by simply selecting a different size for the partition during the installation process. If your machine has a FAT or NTFS filesystem, as used by DOS and Windows, you can wait and use Debian installer's partitioning program to resize the filesystem. Won't this destroy all the Windows stuff? I'm unfamiliar with a resizing option in the Debian installer (but then, I don't install it very often). You can use parted/QParted to (more-or-less safely) resize a partition. I'd boot off a Knoppix CD and try QParted to resize the partition. Worst that can happen at this point is that you'll corrupt the Windows partition and have to reinstall Windows (or rerun the System Restore CD); I would think the Thinkpad came with some method of restoring Windows. Make sure you can restore Windows before messing with the partition table. (And make sure you don't have any unbacked-up data on the drive you don't want to risk). Or, assuming you've taken adequate precautions, try out the installer's partitioning program; it'll be a good education for you to see how well it works. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie wanting debian...
moggy wrote: i recently purchessed a debian disk sarge i think its called, it also came with a live disk, that i thought i would have a look at first to see how it works and how well i get on with it, however, after restarting my pc and booting from the dvd rom and it does its little thing, the screen goes black, and it has a little white box telling me to change the screen settings/resolution to 1280X1024 60hz, which i can do in windows, and which is also the manufactuers recommandation, the problum is i dont know how to adjust the monitor or weather i really need to do this as there maybe another way around the problum, i have been really looking forward to getting a linux system but know little or nothing about how it works, hence my trying the live disk first... I'm not familiar with a Sarge LiveCD, although there are lots of LiveCDs, many based on Debian, such as Knoppix. I believe with Knoppix, at a very early stage of booting, you're presented with a knoppix: prompt, at which time you can press Fn keys to get help about different options; one of those options will probably let you start the LiveCD with a lower resolution. Alternatively, you can try pressing Ctrl-Alt-Plus-on-the-numberpad to move to the next available resolution setting. Continued pressing of that key sequence should cycle through all the possibilities. Of course, this depends on the LiveCD being configured the way I expect it to be. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian/NT Dual Boot?
Mitchell Verter wrote: The computer already has Debian and LILO running. If I want to put NT on the computer too, would I just partition the disk (how do you partition in linux?) and then install NT on the new partition and expect LILO to notice? I like to use cfdisk for partitioning. Be aware that it's very easy to lose data when messing around with partitions. You've been warned. If you have space on your drive for a new partition (or a Linux partition you can split), then yes, just create the partition. As mentioned, I like cfdisk, but parted/qparted might be of value here. Once the partition is created, install Windows. As I recall, NT insisted on being on the first partition of the first drive (XP and Vista are more forgiving in that regard); this will likely spoil your plans unless your free space is on the front of your drive. NT absolutely will write over the MBR; you'll need some way after the install to reinstall LILO; I generally use Knoppix for this. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Piotr Dziubinski wrote: After updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no longer present in my operating system! Instead of it, I have this trashy and shity Iceweasle. Iceweasel /is/ Firefox. It just has a different name because of some licensing changes that Mozilla made, making it just enough non-free to prevent it from being included in the I'm-thankful-it-remains-Free Debian with the Firefox name. Good luck with using losers... ups I mean: losing users! :P I understand you needing to vent when you get frustrated, but this post really came across as immature. I'm sorry Debian wasn't what you needed, but be thankful that you have the freedom (hmm, there's that word Free again) to switch to Gentoo. I hope you'll find satisfaction there. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch display problem
Default User wrote: I just installed Etch Testing using the Netinst CD. Upon bootup, the GDM dialog box appears, X starts with a rapidly vibrating image snip Obviously, this is annoying, but here's what I really worry about: the computer is running while I'm away (maybe all day), and an all too frequent temporary electrical power outage occurs. When the power comes back on, the computer dutifully reboots, stalling at the GDM log in point. It then spends hours frying the monitor and/or graphics card . . . or worse. Much worse. Is there a solution? I don't know the real solution (other than tinkering with /etc/X11/xorg.conf until the real problem is fixed), but a work-around is simply to de-activate the automatic startup of X. Uninstall [xwgk]dm. Then just run startx when you want to start X. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Possible New User - Intro
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 12:16:46PM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote: Can one switch from one version to another, from Etch to Sid for example, by simply updating sources.list and running an update/upgrade? I do like the rolling update feature some distribution, such as Arch, have. yes, the upgrade is as simple as you've put it Just a clarification: upgrading is fairly painless usually, but that's not necessarily the same as switching from one version to another. The point being, downgrading is next to impossible. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub: not found or no block device
On 1/19/07, Bernd Kloss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Etch installed on a computer with scsii-hd and transferred to a similar computer with ide-hd. Both: first partition primary/bootable and 1 extended partition with 1 logical drive: swap device.map, menu.lst and fstab adapted: hda instead of sda Booting with rescue-system, mounting /dev/hda1 on /mnt chroot /mnt grub-install /dev/hda(1) hda(1) = hda or hda1 = /dev/hda(1) not found or no block device I'm no expert, but I'd leave out the chroot step. I suspect the jailed system doesn't see the drive the same way the non-jailed system does. But as mentioned, I'm no expert. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com
Re: Xorg will not start no matter what I do
Ken Heard wrote: I recently installed Etch RC1 in a P3 box. The smoke test succeeded up to the point where Xorg was to be loaded -- it would not load. I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg several times. Each the time process was able to configure automatically the keyboard, mouse, video card and monitor settings without my intervention. I checked the log file and xorg.conf but could find nothing amiss. Can anyone suggest what to do now? Here is the xorg installation log file. snip (II) LoadModule: kbd (WW) Warning, couldn't open module kbd (II) UnloadModule: kbd (EE) Failed to load module kbd (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: mouse (WW) Warning, couldn't open module mouse (II) UnloadModule: mouse (EE) Failed to load module mouse (module does not exist, 0) (II) APM: driver for the Alliance chipsets: AP6422, AT24, AT3D (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (EE) No devices detected. This is where I'd start; I'd see if I could fix the kbd and mouse issue. Google returned a hit at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=8510sid=2796a3ae02b988a9a8ef71fee66b3906 which suggested (between the lines) modprobe mouse for the mouse problem. Another hit I found indicated a problem with udev (not being installed). Try cat /dev/mousedevice, where mousedevice is the device file for your mouse connection, such as /dev/input/mice, etc and then move your mouse around. You should see a lot of ASCII garbage show up on the screen. (Ctrl-C to stop the cat.) This will verify if your mouse is being seen by the system. Also, does lspci report your video card to be on 1:0:0? -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how make the debian bootable
ann kok wrote: Let me explain I am testing how to duplicate the system and have fast recovery in case of any problem It sounds like you're wanting to clone a drive, in which case you're doing this the hard way. The easy way is to use the 'dd' command. See http://www.rajeevnet.com/hacks_hints/os_clone/os_cloning.html for a pretty good explanation. ( By the way, someone has already mentioned that you should not top-post on this list. This means, don't put your response on the top of other people's replies, i.e., at the top of your email, but rather just after whatever you're replying to. You can google for more info on top-posting, and there are lots of discussions in this list's archives about why it's considered bad netiquette. Also, you should trim out material that is no longer relevant, such as signatures and irrelevant paragraphs, etc. Also, don't CC: people unless they've specifically requested it; they already read the list, they don't need to get two copies of your replies (particularly if they're having to pay for each byte they download). Thanks!) -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com
Re: How to install Flash Player 9 on Debian Etch
Reid Priedhorsky wrote: Hi all, Flash Player 9 for Linux came out of beta yesterday. I had a little hiccup installing it on my Etch box, so I thought I'd share my solution to spare you the hiccup. I use Firefox version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-2. The installer will ask Please enter the installation path..., and when you enter the correct path, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox, it will complain: WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path. This is because it is looking for /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components, which does not exist (and which Flash does not apparently need). You can: 1. Create the directory. The installer will be happy. or 2. Skip the (lame) installer and copy libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins yourself. (I haven't tried this.) I just fed the path /usr/lib/iceweasel to the installer program, and it was happy. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x don't start in debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aptitude install xfree86-common and it seemed to be installed aptitude install xserver-xfree86 and it seemed to be installed too after these two commands I wrote start X in command prompt in all possible forms(startx, start X, startX, start x),but ...tadaa, it didn't start any graphical interfece Try aptitude install x-window-system. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba Client: Permission Denied on Mounted Share
Toney wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 21:18 -0500, Toney wrote: I'm running Samba Client on Sarge. When I mount Winders 2000 Server directories, I can read the files fine. When I mount Winders XP directories, I get Permission Denied with every attempt to read the mounted directory. (I get no errors when mounting.) A four year old Slackware server does not have the problem. It reads mounted XP directory entries fine, using an identical mount command, a la mount -t smbfs -o username=blah, password=blah //winders/dir /mnt. Any help greatly appreciated. Shot in the dark; your Linux box may need to be added to the XP domain. (I'm unsure of the syntax; it seems the syntax changed in the past couple of years and most of the Google hits provide the old syntax.) -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette
* Readers should be aware that their posting will be public forever more and cannot be retracted from the public eye. * Confidentiality disclaimers are a joke (and irritant) when posting to a public list (or anytime, for that matter). * Don't scream at the list when you can't get unsubscribed. (It's usually your own mistake anyway that you can't unsubscribe.) * Test Messages to the list are generally discouraged. * Foul language is inappropriate. Perhaps not for you and your culture, but for some other culture, perhaps next door, perhaps on the other side of the world. * Please, oh please, learn to spell and use proper English (allowance is made for non-native English speakers). Precision in language is necessary for communication to take place (which is necessary in order to convey what your problem is and to get a solution). Not to mention that literacy is just a good thing in general. * When posting your problem, provide a clear-cut question, so the list members don't have to guess at what you're asking. * Indicating that you've done some research on your own before posting usually earns you some brownie points. Indicating that you've done no research and are just expecting to be spoon-fed usually earns you some wrath. * Remember that emotions are not usually apparent in email, and will often be taken to be negative. Emoticons are sometimes helpful, as are other hints of your emotional state and/or intentions, to help prevent development of flamefests. * When threads do drift off-topic, they always die eventually. Sometimes its better to just ignore them and let them die a natural death than it is to try to kill them. (Although sometimes a reminder to get on-topic or off-list is appropriate.) * When responding to a post, especially weeks or months later, make sure to include some relevant context for your response. List members see a lot of mail, and can't be expected to remember what you're talking about, or who said what when. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I WILL ASSIST YOU GET YOUR FUNDS
Bryce wrote: Citing a website for which you yourself are the technical contact is hardly authoritative. Perhaps not, but I don't think that's the point. The point is to avoid having to take up space on this list, repeatedly, to explain his reasoning. I applaud him for making his reasoning available publicly, without having to repost it to this list every time it's needed. Top-posting is plenty readable for these shorter threads. Welcome to the 21st Century! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting Which says: Top-posting is viewed as seriously destructive to mailing-list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list digests, where multiple levels of top-posting are difficult to skip. The worst case would be top-posting while including an entire digest as the original message. Some believe that top-posting is appropriate for interpersonal e-mail, but inline posting should always be applied to threaded discussions such as newsgroups. Your argument that top-posting is readable for shorter threads doesn't take into account that often threads that originated as short often grow. It also doesn't take into account that it makes reading the archives inconsistent, with some threads top-posted and some intersperse-posted, etc. It also doesn't take into account that nature of this particular list, where top-posting is not acceptable. If you want to be part of this community, then you need to conform to the community's mores, whether or not you agree with the logic for those mores. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette
Kent West wrote: * several suggestions * When turning on a vacation responder, exclude mailing lists. * Turn off Request Receipt when posting to a mailing list. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Iceweasel download manager problem
Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Running latest available Iceweasel on Debian unstable, when trying to save a link the download manager never opens, and the destination file is simply created with size 0 and downloading don't progress. Clear your cache. Restart Iceweasel. Make sure none of your partitions are out of space. Make sure your /tmp directory has appropriate permissions: drwxrwxrwt 18 root root 20K 2007-01-11 09:23 /tmp Try as a different user. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open (helper application chooser) for iceweasel/icedove is too simple
Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 09:20 -0600, Kent West wrote: Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 02:02 +1100, Geoff Reidy wrote: It's awful, if I just type in /usr/bin I get /usr/src//bin because of it's autocompletion, so you have to type slowly and watch what it's doing. I can't reproduce this. I can, and I too, absolutely hate it. Is this filed as a bug? If not, please explain how it can be reproduced so it can be reported. I thought it was a problem in iceweasel, but I can not now recreate the problem there. But I can recreate it in icedove, version 1.5.0.9 (20061220). Steps: * Receive an email with an attachment. * Double-click on the attachment. * Select Open with and Browse or Other. * Start typing /u and the rest of /usr auto-fills in, which messes you up when you, without looking up, continue typing s and following. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open (helper application chooser) for iceweasel/icedove is too simple
Mathias Brodala wrote: Kent West, 10.01.2007 17:44: I thought it was a problem in iceweasel, but I can not now recreate the problem there. But I can recreate it in icedove, version 1.5.0.9 (20061220). Steps: * Receive an email with an attachment. * Double-click on the attachment. * Select Open with and Browse or Other. * Start typing /u and the rest of /usr auto-fills in, which messes you up when you, without looking up, continue typing s and following. If I type „/u“ in my Icedove I indeed get inserterted „/usr“ but I can just continue to type since the inserted text is selected autmatically. I get inconsistent behaviour; I just tried again after your post, and got the same results you got. But then, without closing the dialog, I erased everything I had typed and tried it again, and got the results reported earlier. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open (helper application chooser) for iceweasel/icedove is too simple
Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 02:02 +1100, Geoff Reidy wrote: It's awful, if I just type in /usr/bin I get /usr/src//bin because of it's autocompletion, so you have to type slowly and watch what it's doing. I can't reproduce this. I can, and I too, absolutely hate it. I'm thankful for Geoff's fix: user_pref(ui.allow_platform_file_picker, false); provided in the previous post, although instead of editing prefs.js, I entered about:config into Iceweasel's address bar, and then searched for picker, and double-clicked on the line to convert it to false. Ah-h-h-h; much better. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MODERATOR - NEWS GROUP
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 01:05:39PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: The other thing I've noticed is that a new spam will have a subject starting with Re: . Could not the list filter verify that the subject Re'd actually exists in the list archive within a set time frame (30 days?). but then we'd miss all of Michele Konzack's mail! ;-) A Ha HA-A-A-A!!! So true. :-) -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg overloaded
pol wrote: Kent West wrote: If it's really X, then you shouldn't need to shut off your laptop; simply restarting the X server should solve the problem. If it doesn't, the problem is not X, but something else. Ok, I will try to restart X, next time. Are you suspecting 'top' is not a reliable program? Not at all; you just didn't provide that detail in your first post. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg overloaded
pol wrote: Hi all, After many hours sitting working, the X server of my laptop often starts sucking all the cpu power (80-99%). , with no apparen reason (i cannot get hints from the 'ps axf' output). Overloading lasts forever, until i am forced to turn my laptop off. Any ideas to solve this issue? If it's really X, then you shouldn't need to shut off your laptop; simply restarting the X server should solve the problem. If it doesn't, the problem is not X, but something else. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Installation
Danesh Daroui wrote: Hi all, I am an Ubuntu (Debian's kid) lover who has decided recently to port some of my work on Debian. I have downloaded minimal CD of Debian's latest version. Everything seems to go fine, but when the installation is done, the X-Server can be run and the OS just stays in text mode without GUI. There is also a log file which has been created after several attempts to run X-Server but it is messy enough. Can anybody help? Try aptitude install x-window-system kde. This assumes that you don't enough installed for what you need, and if that's the case, should prompt you if you want to use gdm or kdm as your login manager (kdm is KDE's; gdm is Gnome's, but either will let you log into either the Gnome or KDE environment (if both are installed) via a menu on the login screen). -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need Help with Samba [Was: Re: Debian Installation]
Danesh Daroui wrote: Thanks Kent and of course others who did post a reply. The problem is now solved. The log file showed that my graphic card had been selected incorrectly, so now everything works fine. My windows handler is also GNOME which is my favorite, but I need more help. I have a network with four hosts connected to my Debian server. One Ubuntu and three Windows XP boxes, so I need to configure SAMBA on Debian for file sharing and specially printer sharing. It also seems that SAMBA is already installed on my Debian server since the Debian server is shown on all Windows XP machines. I used to use Fedora before Debian and in Fedora all SAMBA components were on menu list of accessory application but I did not find anything on the applications menu in Debian. Do you have any tip to configure SAMBA on Debian? It would also be nice to use SWAT to create account for each machine. Besides, I would appreciate to get similar tips about configuring LAMP server on Debian. 0. This list discourages private replies; in general, you're encouraged to reply to the list: * it provides more eyes for solving your problems * it provides answers/opportunities for others on the list to learn the answer * it documents the answers in the mailing list archives (Also, you're encouraged to reply only to the list, not to the list and the person to whom you're replying; that person is already reading the list; s/he doesn't need two copies of the message.) 1. aptitude install swat, then configure as you seem to be familiar with. 2. This list discourages top-posting (replying at the top of a message rather than interspersing with relevant material). 3. This list encourages trimming out unnecessary stuff from previous messages. 4. A good subject line (How to install/configure SWAT? or Need help with Samba, etc) is more likely to get responses; a generic subject line, or worse, one that is misleading, is likely to get ignored by those who know the answers to your issues. 5. LAMP: you have the Linux part; now aptitude install apache mysql [python | perl | php] should get you pretty close. Note: None of these should be taken as criticisms (although in the terse format I've written them they may sound that way); instead, they should be taken as educational as to how this list generally functions. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:
Rick Thomas wrote:
Package: gnome-desktop
The computer in question is an OldWorld PowerMac Apple Macintosh,
Beige G3 tower. This problem only happens on this machine. It does
not occur on my G4 test box.
I'd very much appreciate it if somebody else with a beige G3 would try
it and let me know if they see the same problem.
Sorry; don't have one.
However, after rebooting following the install, and logging in to
gnome, it seems to be repeatedly trying to start/re-start something
having to do with the appearance of the desktop. Things are very slow
Finally, after 30 seconds or a minute, I get a pop-up that says
Question
The pannel encountered a problem while loading
OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet.
Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?
[Don't delete][Delete]
If I click [Delete] it goes back to wiggling, but the popup doesn't
reappear.
After a couple of minutes of wiggling, I get a popup that says
There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon
Some things such as themes, sounds, or background settings, may
not work correctly.
The Settings Daemon restarted too many times
The last error message was:
System Exception:IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0:
Child process did not give an error message,
unknown failure occurred.
Gnome will try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you login.
[close]
When I click [close] the wiggling stops and everything is (as far as I
can tell) normal until I log out
and try to login again.
Anybody got a clue?
Not really, but I'd suggest trying with a different (preferably
newly-created) user (even root {shudder}).
I'd also look for any gnome-related log files in /var/log and see if
they provide any clue.
I'd do an aptitude update aptitude dist-upgrade to see if any newer
packages solve the problem.
I'd search the bug database and general Google for this issue.
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Re: /etc/network/interfaces file ?
On 12/21/06, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stevendemetrius wrote: The issue is that allow-hotplug eth0 does *not* work while auto eth0 does work! If allow-hotplug is used then dhclient has to be run manually in order for eth0 to get its IP related settings. I've investigated this for a few hours today, and if you have any systems that fail to bring up the interface with allow-hotplug eth0, and no auto eth0, I'm curious about what situations cause it to fail. So far the only situations I've been able to find where allow-hotplug fails are: * Long ( 2 minutes) fscks of the root filesystem during boot. * Hard powercycles / hard reboots. I've filed bugs for both of those, and it seems that it should work in other situations, but perhaps I've missed other failure modes. Hey Joey! I'm coming into the middle of this conversation with no knowledge of the rest of the thread. The subject line caught my eye after having some grief with networking on a fresh install of Sid on a Toshiba Satellite laptop. With this fresh install I've noticed the allow-hotplug line for the first time. I don't know what it does (and I thought hotplug had been deprecated in favor of devfs, or something (you can see I'm very hazy on these topics)), but I guessed that it allowed the system to monitor if a network cable was plugged in or not, so I did five minutes worth of experimentation that may or may not be relevant to this thread. If I stop the network, and have the following: # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp and then unplug the network cable and then run /etc/init.d/networking start, I see six or seven attempts to get a DHCP address, with it finally failing. (I would have expected the system to see that the network cable was unplugged and therefore not even bother trying to get a DHCP address - I reckon that expectation is wrong.) ifconfig shows no IP address assigned to eth0. Then, if I plug in the network cable, I see a message about sky2 and eth0 and the link being up at 100Mbps. ifconfig still shows no address. Running /etc/init.d/networking restart gets me an address. If this is of value to you, great. If not, sorry for the wasted bandwidth. If you need more info/testing, holler. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com
Re: Very ugly problem after upgrade and unistalling KDE
On 12/21/06, Igor Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I solve the problem? with my Gnome Desktop, apparently *all* the file associations have gone... when I try to open an mp3 I can't, I have to choose Open with the problem Not being a user of Gnome, I don't know the correct answer, but what I'd try is logging out of Gnome, renaming all your Gnome-related directories in your home directory, and then logging back in. If that solves the problem, you're a step closer to knowing which files are the problem. If that does not solve the problem, you can be fairly confident it's system-wide rather than a user-specific problem (but I'd still create a new user and test with that user to make absolutely certain). Again, this is not a fix necessarily, but it might get you closer to one. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com
Re: Fwd: X aborting
Niels Rasmussen wrote: I've installed Etch and xorg seems to be the new standard X in Etch. As John C suggested the radeon trick worked :-) Now I can use X as root, but not as user ! I get this error: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config should have allowed_users=console; I'd start by checking that file. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xine video playback jumpy
andy wrote: The playback on xine seems to be quite jumpy. Is there anything that I can do (e.g. an option, for example) that will change this and make the play-back smoother? One thing to try is to make sure DMA is turned on for your drives (particularly DVD drive, if you're playing a DVD when you notice the jumpiness, or hard drive if you notice it when playing from a locally-stored file). Google for hdparm for more info. Another thing is to throw more RAM at the problem, or to reduce RAM consumption (try Icewm instead of KDE, shut down unneeded apps, etc). Also, make sure you're not running low on drive space on any partitions. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian user
Niels Rasmussen wrote: As of # 2 What is the syntax of the sudoers file ?? Or is there a smarter linux command that'll do the trick ? (my linux capabilities has got quite rusty over the years :-) man sudoers is your friend. Well, maybe not your friend, but at least a usable resource For myself, I just duplicate the existing root line in /etc/sudoers and then change one of the roots to my user. Granted, this isn't particularly secure, but it's easy and adds a significant level of security to doing things as root. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Debian user
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 05:00:14PM -0600, Kent West wrote: For myself, I just duplicate the existing root line in /etc/sudoers and then change one of the roots to my user. Granted, this isn't particularly secure, but it's easy and adds a significant level of security to doing things as root. Many people seem to mistake sudo for some sort of security panacea. I reckon I shouldn't have used the word security (although my response here does not in any way reduce the value of your very good post). What I really meant is that using sudo adds logging (although as you pointed out, that can be circumvented), and that I'm less likely to do something stupid running sudo than running as root. But the basic gist of your post stands: sudo is not a panacea for security. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: if I were a newbie how would I get sound?
Brad Sawatzky wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Douglas Tutty wrote: If I was a total newbie, how would I know how to play sound? Make sure the relevant sound controls are unmuted and turned up using your favorite sound mixer. For example: snip I don't believe Douglas was asking how to play sound (although your explanation, Brad, was very good); I believe he was asking how he's supposed to know how since the docs don't address the issue. Good question, Doug. I haven't looked at those docs in ages, but if they need a section on sound, I bet the folks responsible for those docs would be happy for someone to contribute such a section. (Many folks would suggest that you write that section, but you may not be knowledgeable enough to do so; but perhaps your question will highlight the need to someone who is capable of writing that section.) I also suspect that most newbs run KDE or Gnome; I'm unsure about Gnome, but KDE plays a startup sound by default, giving clear indication if the sound system is functional (although it does not necessarily indicate failures), but that doesn't really seem like it adequately addresses your question. I guess the real answer to your question is that a total newbie would not know how to play sound, unless he just happened to come across the right sequence or the right entry in the mailing list archives or knew enough to ask someone (this list?), etc. But I suspect you're not asking that question so much as you're hinting that a sound section needs to be added to the newbie documentation. When someone gets the itch who can address this issue, I'm sure it'll be addressed. Until then (and even afterward), no OS is perfect in all respects. *shrug* -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flashplayer9?
Marc Shapiro wrote: Does anyone now, off the top of their heads, a site that does not run on v7 that I can test this with? I just tried http://www.metacafe.com/watch/309044/magic_exposed/ with v7, and it complained that I needed a newer version; then I tried with v9, and this site played. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flashplayer9?
Marc Shapiro wrote: Wulfy wrote: Kent West wrote: You probably still have the ver7 .so in one of the plugins paths for Firefox. Do a locate libflashplayer.so and rename/move any that you aren't confident is the v.9 version out of any relevant plugins directories. I don't appear to have ANY version of flash currently installed -- Er, you mean ANY version of flash currently installed by Debian; you can still have a locally-installed version. /$ locate libflashplayer.so /mnt/Sarge/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so /mnt/Sarge/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so /mnt/Sarge/usr/lib/mozilla-snapshot-remove/plugins/libflashplayer.so /mnt/Sarge/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /mnt/Sarge/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/share/libflashplayer.so /mnt/Sarge/usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/libflashplayer.so /mnt/Sarge/usr/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so I would rename all these instances and restart FF and see what happens. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flashplayer9?
Marc Shapiro wrote: I closed firefox and unmounted the /mnt/Sarge partitions. Now running 'locate libflshplayer.so' returns nothing. I restarted firefox and it still runs the flash on that page, as well as on others. Curiouser and curiouser. Okay; that's getting weird. updatedb runs by default, I believe, every day. However, just to be sure, I'd run it manually, then do another run of your locate command. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: flashplayer9?
Wulfy wrote: I got fed up with messages on sites saying please update your flashplayer. so, not finding a deb for it, I googled and found this page; http://wizah.blogspot.com/2006/10/debian-how-to-flash-9.html I followed the instructions on that page, purged all the debs for flashplayer, installed the .so and restarted Firefox. Firefox still insists it has the v.7 player. It also says way down on about:config that it has the v.9 player. Sites like http://www.bagbybeowulf.com/video/index.html still say I have to update... How do I get FF to forget about v.7??? You probably still have the ver7 .so in one of the plugins paths for Firefox. Do a locate libflashplayer.so and rename/move any that you aren't confident is the v.9 version out of any relevant plugins directories. On an aside, I tried a beta of 9; audio would often lock into a repeating stutter, but someone pointed me to a more recent beta, and most of the audio problems went away. But there were still enough irritations that I've gone back to 7, and when I come across a site that needs 9, more often than not, that site loses my eyeballs. Occasionally I'll quickly flip over to 9 (I just rename-swap the 7 and 9 versions of the file and restart FF). -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!
Douglas Tutty wrote: The biggest thing I've learned is to install things a bit at a time; I'd agree with that. Lets say you choose aptitude, then you install that ... Then I install mc followed by lynx. Then ... documentation packages ... [then] exim4, mailx, mutt, and fetchmail The __last__ thing to install is X. But I usually install X and Icewm early on (just after lynx and ssh and sudo); I likes me graphical environment, yeppers. Then I toss on the fluff, KDE, OO.o, FF, T-Bird, etc. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!
andy wrote: Thanks for your welcomes and recommendations. I look forward to getting to know the new system. As I said I am very impressed, although a bit confused too as I learn my way around. I haven't used Gnome since RH 7.2 preferring XFce throughout my Slackware days, so I am becoming familiar with both Gnome and Debian. It's great that you're trying out Gnome, but you can run any environment you want. For example, aptitude install xfce4 should install XFce for you, or aptitude install kde should install KDE for you, or aptitude install icewm wmaker ion should install those three window managers for you. You're probably launching X via gdm; the gdm login window should have a menu item somewhere for choosing which environment you want to log into. Mix and match; try 'em all; have fun! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which version
Russell L. Harris wrote: You are running the stable release. Most people should be running the testing release of Debian, which currently is Etch. That most people is a bit loaded, but he's probably correct that you'd be happier with Etch. The way you'd upgrade to Etch, is like he says, run apt-get (or aptitude, preferred by many, including myself) update followed by aptitude dist-upgrade, AFTER changing your source file. (It doesn't hurt to do it before, but it won't do any good.) Your source file is at /etc/apt/sources.list. You'll probably have one to five lines referring to http or ftp; the stable in these lines need to be changed to etch. (You could change them to testing, as etch and testing are the same thing right now, but when etch turns stable, testing will suddenly see a lot of new activity/flux and you stand a good chance to see broken-ness real quick pop into your system if you're tracking testing instead of etch.) Alternatively, you could track unstable (aka Sid - Sid is always unstable; he was the kid next door in Toy Story that broke all the toys; some folks think of Sid as Still In Development). The advantage of unstable and testing over stable is that you get new and shinier toys, at the risk of broken-ness; stable tends to be rock-solid. unstable is likely to see more broken-ness, more often, than does testing, but its advantage over testing is that when broken-ness does occur, it tends to get fixed quicker than it does in testing, within a day or three. When broken-ness happens in testing, the fix usually can 10 days or so to arrive. Right now, as a newbie, you'd probably do best to track Etch. However, if you are new to Debian, you really should be using Synaptic for package management, in order to avoid pitfalls. Synaptic is GUI-based, and requires X. If your X system is broken, you won't be able to use Synaptic. But as long as Synaptic works for you, it might be a bit easier to do things with as a newbie. I personally found it confusing when I tried it several years ago; perhaps things have changed since then. (I also find aptitude in menu-mode confusing; command-line mode (like as used above) is the way I usually do things.) I believe Synaptic is not installed by default, so you'll need to aptitude install synaptic. (Oh, that reminds me; aptitude may not be installed by default on Sarge, so you might need to apt-get install aptitude.) -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with rdesktop
Christian Christmann wrote: Hi, I'm running rdesktop v1.3.0 on my Debian Sarge box. When I try to connect to a Windows XP system, this works fine with rdesktop WINPC. However, when I specify the color depth with rdesktop -a 16 WINPC, the connection is not established but I get the rdesktop usage message. What is wrong? Why is -a X not accepted even though it is explicitly mentioned in the man pages? The man page says: Note that the colour depth may also be limited by the server configuration. I suspect the problem may be on the server end of things, but I'm unsure how you'd configure that. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to Play Two Audio streams to two different outputs?
Dave Thayer wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 03:42:02PM -0600, Kent West wrote: We're wanting to use one Debian box to play two different audio streams to two different systems: one playing music-on-hold for our general telephone system, and one playing tips-and-updates for our Helpdesk phone system (for simplification purposes, you can just think of the two streams going to two different sets of speakers located in two different rooms). I figure we'll need two sound cards, each driving its own set of speakers. Since phone systems are mono, have you considered using the left and right channels seperately for the audio sources? You might be able to get by with some mixer software trickery to run L R independently. Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. It looks like Dave's idea will work well for us. I've started up two instances of xmms (had to go into Options/Preferences/Options and turn on Allow multiple instances, and put one audio tune on one instance, and moved the balance all the way to the Left, and then put another audio tune on the other instance, moving it's balance all the way to the Right. Preliminary testing indicates that this will work. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVDs - err what gives?
Baz wrote: Help please. I followed the advice here - and, now the Synaptic Package Manager nor the Update Manager are working. On 12/12/06, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 06:11:56PM +, andy wrote: Well, I'll be a primate's mother's brother: Congratulations on your neice's career in the church! What advice? Without context, it's hard to tell what you mean. Also, I'm unfamiliar with the Update Manager; never heard of it. And more details on what's wrong with Synaptic might be good. Does it not start? Does it error out? If the latter, what's the error? That sort of thing. Also, please don't top-post. And finally, the joke about the niece's career in church It took me a while to figure out, not being of a background familiar with Primate in a church context. After figuring that out, Good zing, Hendrik! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVDs - err what gives?
Baz wrote: Whenever I try to open the SynapticPackage Manager, I get: An error occured The following details are provided: E: Type 'http://www.debian-multimedia.org' is not known on line 15 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read. Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. So, I go to the repository, nothing appears wrong. When I reload, I get: The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences. okay. from a command line, please issue cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the exact output into a mail back to this list. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat/etc/apt/sources.list bash: cat/etc/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory You need a space just after the word cat. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVDs - err what gives?
Baz wrote: Baz wrote: Whenever I try to open the SynapticPackage Manager, I get: An error occured The following details are provided: E: Type ' http://www.debian-multimedia.org' is not known on line 15 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read. ThinkBaz:/home/sebastian# cat /etc/apt/sources.list # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD i386 Binary-1 20061204-18:47]/ etch contrib main deb http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ etch main deb-src http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ etch main deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD i386 Binary-2 20061204-18:47]/ etch main http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid/main Packages http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid/main I removed the multimedia one through the Synaptic PM, but, it's obviously still there. I'm not sure why changing it in Synaptic didn't change it in /etc/apt/sources.list. If I were you, I'd edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor (I usually use nano) and do one of the following: 1. Add deb to the front of each of the last three lines that reference debian-multimedia.org. 2. Comment out each of those last three lines by placing a splat (#) at the front of the line. 3. Delete the last three lines altogether. If it'd make you more comfortable, you can backup the sources.list file first. Also, these lines are not standard Debian lines to my knowledge. I'm a tad suspicious of any source that is not official, but then I'm a tad paranoid. (PS. Trimming extraneous, no-longer needed stuff out of posts is generally considered a good thing.) (PPS. No need to CC: us in addition to sending your replies to the list itself, since we're already reading the list. We don't need two copies of each message.) -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: large rendering
Mark Grieveson wrote: When using KDE, sometimes the rendering of the desktop will become too large, making things unusable, and requiring a reboot to fix. This occurs, usually, when I open a fullscreen game such as defendguin or supertux. In particular, if I've accidentally doubleclicked the mouse, when only a single click is required to start it from the desktop launcher (thereby opening two instances of the game, instead of one.) Is there anyway to fix this? I don't have the same issue when using other desktop environments/window managers. I dunno, but I'd try Ctrl-Alt-KeypadPlus (the plus on the numeric keypad) or Ctrl-Alt-KeypadMinus to see if you can cycle around to the normal resolution. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to Play Two Audio streams to two different outputs?
We're wanting to use one Debian box to play two different audio streams to two different systems: one playing music-on-hold for our general telephone system, and one playing tips-and-updates for our Helpdesk phone system (for simplification purposes, you can just think of the two streams going to two different sets of speakers located in two different rooms). I figure we'll need two sound cards, each driving its own set of speakers. But how do I get the system to play one audio stream on one sound card, and a different audio stream on a different card, at the same time? Running two different apps (or even the same app) under two different users is not a problem; I just need the audio to not mix between the two outputs. Thanks! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse freaks out
Jason Dunsmore wrote: My Logitech usb mouse (model M-BT96a) has a tendancy to freak out a couple of times per hour. When this happens, the mouse cursor suddenly goes to one of the screen corners. When I try to reorient myself by moving the mouse to see where it went, the mouse moves rapidly all over the screen. Normality is restored about 3 seconds after this happens. I've tried three different Logitech mice, and they all have this problem. I'm using Enlightenment with Debian Etch and kernel 2.6.16.13. Any idea what the problem is? No, not a clue. But I'd start by removing gpm if it's installed, or installing gpm if it's not installed, and then reconfiguring X to use/not use /dev/gpmdata accordingly, just to see if anything changes. You might also want to provide a bit more info, such as how your xorg.conf (or XF86Config) file is configured mouse-wise. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox crashing on gmail
Brian Durant wrote: Thanks. The interesting thing is that my xorg.conf already reads DefaultDepth 24. I was positive that this was the same problem that I was experiencing - system freeze/crash with Gmail and Firefox. Hmm. As soon as I stopped using Firefox to read my Gmail account, the problem went away. In that case, I'd try a different default depth altogether, such as 15, just to see what happens. You might also want to create a new user and log in as that user and try, to make sure it's not user-specific. You can also start Firefox in safe mode (Google; I don't recall the switch) which disables all extensions, etc., (presumably flash and java etc) to see what difference, if any, that makes. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound system stopped working
Bradley Alexander wrote: Having an issue with sound on my sid box. It used to work fine, but now, I get errors, and my sound card is not detected. I tried several approaches to get it to work, including the page at http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/sound.htm It is a SBLive! Platinum running on an Athlon XP1800. I think I'd start by reseating the card (assuming it's not integrated). -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Graphic program stopped working after (Xorg?) Etch update
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have run Etch (i386) for 4 or 5 months and only run into a few minor problems. However, after an upgrade (in late October or early November), a commercial program for image processing called Envi we are evaluating under debian, stopped working in graphical mode (a segmentation fault is issued without any additional information; command-line version works fine though). We have tried reconfiguring Xorg, then reinstalling some X packages, then Xorg, then Etch... without success ( Envi user forum has been unhelpful so far). debian2:~$ envi I'd try running strace envi; see if that provides any additional info about what's dying. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com
Re: Sound system stopped working
Bradley Alexander wrote: Hi Kent, I shut down, reseated the card, booted, and tried the same steps (lspci | grep audio; module-assistant; alsaconf) and got the same indications. Also please note two items I may not have mentioned. I also have a BT878 TV capture card (an old Happauge analog card) that is detected and works just fine. Also, the first time I saw this problem was after upgrading from 2.6.16 to 2.6.17. I rolled back to 2.6.16, but the problem persisted. I have tried both stock Debian kernels and my own compiled kernel...Still the problem persists. Other suggestions? 1. Try a different user. 2. Try a different windowing environment. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com
Re: how many CDs for v3.1 r3?
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 19.11.06 16:00, Michelle Konzack wrote: better: /var; ext3; 1 GB /var/log; ext3; 500 MB I don't see any reason to have them separate. Because if some process starts spewing log entries left-and-right, only your /usr/log partition fills up rather than your entire /usr partition. You can also make your /usr partition read-only this way, which can function as another step in security/safety-hardening a system. /tmp; ext3; 1 GB Definitivly to small I mount /tmp on tmpfs (size-limited) and I think it's better to add this space to swap, and use /tmp on tmpfs limited to 1 GB. However I haven't seen /tmp used that much for long time. Maybe in some cases... Seems like if I download an .iso using Firefox to my home dir, it temporarily stores it in /tmp, meaning I have to have enough free space in /tmp to get the full .iso. -- Kent -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broken MBR
John Graves wrote: I needed more room so I reduced the size of an unused Windows/NTFS partition and increased the Linux ext3 partition using QParted. This broke the MBR so when I boot, I get a string of 9's and nothing else happens. How can I restore the MBR? I was using lilo if that makes a difference. I have a copy of the original sarge disk1 and a Knoppix 5.0 disk at home. Will either of these simplify the repair/ Boot from Knoppix. #sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 (or wherever your / partition is) #sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 #mount -a #lilo #exit #reboot -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how many CDs for v3.1 r3?
anonymous wrote: I was planning to download and test install Debian for the first time. However, when I browsed the website below: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r3/i386/iso-cd/ for a download, I found out that I would need to download 18 CDs: 15 regular and 3 for the update. From the FAQ at: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#which-cd Furthermore, in most cases it is not necessary to download all of the images for your architecture. The packages are sorted by popularity: The first CD/DVD contains the installation system and the most popular packages. The second one contains slightly less popular ones, the third one even less popular ones, etc. You will probably only need the first DVD (or the first two CDs) unless you have very special requirements. (And in case you happen to need a package later on which is not on one of the CDs/DVDs you downloaded, you can always install that package directly from the Internet.) I would like to know whether all these CDs have binary files or are these also include CDs with sources and documentation. If so, which ones of them? I believe that about the last half are source. How much would it need for a complete install on a P-IV 2.5GHz with 256 MB RAM? And how much for the disk space? A complete install of all packages is impossible. Since Debian gives you choice, you have multiple packages that accomplish the same task, such as an email back-end. These email back-ends would conflict with each other, so you can only install one of them at a time. Etc. However, as mentioned in the FAQ, a fairly complete system can be had by using only the first, and maybe the second CD. Depending on your partitioning scheme and what you install, you can probably have a full-blown workstation on a GB or less. Or it might take 20 GB; just depends on what you want. Shoot for 10GB as a starter, if you have it; if not, use your 1GB and be choosy. I tried to look up the answers in the online manual, but was unable to find them. Any help would be appreciated. It's appreciated that you're willing to do your own research; that's good. Sorry there doesn't seem to be a clear answer to this question. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how many CDs for v3.1 r3?
anonymous wrote: I still have not received a definitive reply to my question as yet. Which, to repeat was: I found out that I would need to download 18 CDs: 15 regular and 3 for the update. I would like to know whether all these CDs have binary files or are these also include CDs with sources and documentation. If so, which ones of them? In fact, I have received conflicting statements to answer this query. Just compare the two statements below. As far as I know they include documentation and source code - thats in fact one key-feature of free-software. Samuel Bächler AND Just Binary Files. Documentation..as in relevant man-pages would be provided.Amit Joshi I believe Amit was referring to the first two CDs, as just a bit above that quote he says: ... the first CD should suffice. It has got KDE + GNOME and all the required utilities to get your system up and running. You may download the CD2 just in case. Others have also indicated that you probably only need the first one or two CDs for a typical workstation. To see what's on each CD, see http://atterer.net/jigdo/jigdo-search.php?list Having used Redhat and Slackware before which just use 4 CDs each for the boot and packages and a couple more for the documentation and sources, it is difficult for me to take 15 CDs for the installation of packages alone. Generally the source CDs are labeled source, and the package CDs are labeled binary. IF this *is* really the case, there should be some good reason for this: Does debian offer a lot of packages choices? 20,000+, last I heard; I'm unsure how many other distros offer. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: argh! linux and floppies
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-10-28 17:47:55, schrieb Kent West: I have just 30 minutes ago tried to use three 3.5 floppies on two different machines, and can't get anywhere with them. I decided to put it on the back burner and read my email when I came across your post. I've tried cfdisk and fdisk to look at the partition(s) (do these work on floppies?), and mformat, and mkfs.vfat, and fdformat, and all I ever get is something like could not get geometry of device or Problem reading cylinder 0 or Unable to read /dev/fd0, etc. modprobe floppy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk lsmod | grep floppy floppy 54788 0 I'm fairly confident I've got two different boxes having faulty floppy drives (although that seems a bit suspicious). I haven't gotten back around to pursuing the issue to be certain; I've put it on the back-burner. Thanks, though! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot problem
Roelof Wobben wrote: But can't i be done with the boot-only cd from Sarge. Yes, but I'm unsure of the steps; I'm sure Google has it somewhere though. I want to use lilo instead of grub. Then instead of running grub-install, run lilo, once you're chroot'ed into your system. However, Windows still won't be bootable at that point. Once you've gotten back into Debian normally (or from within the chroot before running lilo, if you prefer), you'll need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to make sure Windows is accessible. The file is pretty well self-documented, so if you know your way around partitioning names, you shouldn't have any trouble. Then run lilo again to make sure those changes get written to the MBR. (That's one of the advantages of grub over lilo; you can make config changes on the fly with grub, whereas with lilo, you have to run the utility each time you edit the configuration.) -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM eServer x series 206 RH-to-Debian migration
Lee Whalen wrote: My big question is, does Debian work with the Adaptec SATA HostRAID controller that this IBM eServer x206 box has on it? I dunno, but ... does that sound feasible, or am I doing far, far too much work? Sounds good to me. You mention a LiveCD; if you can boot the box off a Debian-based LiveCD, that should give you an idea as to whether it'll see your HostRAID controller (I suspect yes; Adaptec's a big enough name that the issues have probably been worked out, but that's just a guess on my part). -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's up with all the attitude
ChadDavis wrote: But what's with all the attitude people flash around here. We're people; people are imperfect. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Delete Win 2K partition on Debian dual boot to re-use space.
del wrote: I have a dual boot Debian Sarge/Win 2K box. I would now like to remove the 2K partition to regain the space for use for MP3s. Would I be able to have a second home so it will not be wiped if I need to re-install at some time, say when I break my machine upgrading to Etch later this year :) 1) How to remove? # cfdisk /dev/hda (or /dev/sda, or whatever fits your situation) highlight the 2K partition, and delete it. Highlight the now-unused partition, and create a new linux partition [W]rite the changes, and exit cfdisk. Reboot if so-prompted (otherwise, don't bother. # mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1 (or whatever file system and partition fits your desire/situation) edit /etc/fstab to mount the newly created partition/file system on whatever mount point you want, say /home/del/OldW2KSpaceRecoveredFromTheDarkSide (make sure to make this directory first. # mount -a 2) What to name it to survive a re-install? Whatever you want; just make sure that during any re-install, you don't wipe out this partition / file system. (Why are you re-installing anyway? This is Debian, not Windows.) 3) Is it possible to have a second home? No. (Well, 'er ..., just say No.) You could however have a /home2, or an /opt, or an /overflow, or a /home/home, etc etc etc. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot ping my own machine
schmity wrote: Here is the info. Looks like the machine is named Sandstorm instead of Linuxbox. Sandstorm is what I had intended the workgroup name to be for my network. Can I change this so that the computername is Linuxbox? Yes. The two main files to change are /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts, then you can reboot, or run hostname -F /etc/hostname. You may also want to change another half-dozen or so files in /etc (such as mailname); grep is your friend. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Classic Gnubie accident
5 chyntt chyntt 4.0K 2005-10-14 13:03 .ymessenger And then, say in an individual directory, you'll have even more mixmatch permissions: # ls -lah ../chyntt/Desktop/ total 40K drwx-- 4 chyntt chyntt 4.0K 2005-10-27 10:00 . drwxrwsr-x 46 chyntt chyntt 4.0K 2005-11-17 15:38 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 chyntt chyntt 4.0K 2005-10-14 13:54 Autostart -rw-r--r-- 1 chyntt chyntt 386 2005-10-14 12:00 Backgammon -rw--- 1 chyntt chyntt 235 2005-10-14 12:00 .directory drwxr-xr-x 2 chyntt chyntt 4.0K 2005-10-14 13:55 Downloads -rw-r--r-- 1 chyntt chyntt 4.3K 2005-10-03 13:22 Home.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 chyntt chyntt 3.2K 2005-10-03 13:22 System.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 chyntt chyntt 139 2005-10-27 10:00 trash.desktop -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Classic Gnubie accident
Kent West wrote: anthony wrote: I'd like to know what exactly happened and perhaps to get my user (anthony) and my settings back iat some point so, what should the permissions be for all the settings (invisible) files in my home directory /anthony/home ? Are they each different? To get your user back, just backup the original /home/anthony directory, then deluser anthony followed by adduser anthony. You'll probably also want to addgroup anthony audio cdrom, etc to add the user anthony to the groups audio, cdrom, etc, as necessary to give that user sound capability, CD-mounting capability, etc. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: argh! linux and floppies
Mark Grieveson wrote: Thanks, that seems to help. Perhaps having it on auto sets up a Catch-22, wherein a floppy that needs to be formatted cannot be due to the requirement of the program having to determine the file system first (which requires that it be formatted). Or maybe not. Anyway, I've had better luck with floppies after making your suggested change; so, thanks again. When the file system type for /dev/fd0 was set at auto, the computer would frequently complain, when I had an unmountable disk, that it could not determine the file system type. Subsequent efforts to format, and/or fix the disk via superformat, failed. Changing the file type line of /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab from auto to vfat left the machine with no question as to what the file system type of the disk was; hence, I believe, it overcame that hurdle to identify other errors (bad block, etc), and, more often than before, I was able to format and make the disk usable. That's nuts! I made this change also, and now superformat worked without complaining, and the one floppy I've tried (which previously I could not format to save my life) seems to be working fine. Even though I was telling some of the utilities I was trying to use what filesystem/size to use, they'd fail. Then this simple little change works (or at least seems to, with my very limited test sample). Those utilities *should* have worked; decreases my respect for Debian just ever so slightly. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: argh! linux and floppies
Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 07:08:53PM -0600, Kent West wrote: sudo fdformat -n /dev/.static/dev/fd0u1440 I have to wonder how you came up with that, vs reading the man page for fdformat(8). Because the man page for fdformat only mentions the /dev/fd* paths, but such paths do not exist on either of my two Sid boxes running 2.16 kernel. The problem was not one of failing to autodetect the floppy parameters, which is what the man page mentions (see below); the problem was that the path was not found. At one point something printed on the screen (via dmesg? I don't remember) which indicated a /dev/.static directory in relation to udev, so I went a'hunting and found these device files there. That tells you to use setfdprm(8) to set the parameters of the generic device before trying to use it. Also, everything I was able to find via Google and a specific instruction on this list mentioned using fdformat -n ...fd0u1440 or ...fd0H1440. Whereas the man page for fdformat does indeed mention using setfdprm, it says it in this geekspeak, which is typical of Linux documentation: The generic floppy devices, /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd1, will fail to work with fdformat when a non-standard format is being used, or if the for- mat has not been autodetected earlier. In this case, use setfdprm(8) to load the disk parameters. If I study on this hard enough, I can eventually make sense of it, but it's kind of like reading the King James version of the Bible: it may be majestic and grand and eventually understandable, but for most non-professional readers, they just basically go Huh? And the man page for setfdprm? Ag! I *never* would have figured out from that man page that setfdprm was of any value to me. Never. Ever. Further, why wouldn't you just use superformat(1)? Because I have never heard of it before. It usually does a MUCH better job with marginal media than fdformat(8) does, and it'll invoke mformat for you when it's done. Reading the manpage for superformat, again, I'm stunned at how little knowledge I would have gleaned from this vast repository of information about the utility, and never would have figured out that it does better with marginal media than fdformat does if you hadn't mentioned it. I'll go try it here in a sec (No! No more secs! I'm sick and tired of secs! (Read it out loud if you have to in order to get the joke.)) === I know you didn't intend it, but your phrases how did you come up with that and why wouldn't you use foo felt like Gee, you're stupid for doing things that way phrases to me, and being as this is morning and I'm not a morning person, that put me into defensive mode such that I then irrationally struck out at Linux documentation. Sorry for my hot reaction. (How do you do a sheepish smiley?) On the other hand, you've provided some helpful information here to which I was previously not privy. Thanks! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Classic Gnubie accident
Ron Johnson wrote: I'd there's a higher probability of creating new geeks if existing geeks reproduce. What is this reproduce of which you speak? Is that a new utility similar to cp? -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: argh! linux and floppies
Marc Wilson wrote: Further, why wouldn't you just use superformat(1)? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk sudo superformat /dev/fd0 hd Password: Measuring drive 0's raw capacity In order to avoid this time consuming measurement in the future, add the following line to /etc/driveprm: drive0: deviation=320 CAUTION: The line is drive and controller specific, so it should be removed before installing a new drive 0 or floppy controller. Verifying cylinder 61, head 1 error during command execution 66 04 3d 01 01 02 12 1b ff 44 20 20 3d 01 11 02 CRC error in data field CRC error in data or address cylinder=61 head=1 sector=17 size=2 error during command execution 66 04 3d 01 01 02 12 1b ff 44 20 20 3d 01 11 02 CRC error in data field CRC error in data or address cylinder=61 head=1 sector=17 size=2 Verifying cylinder 61, head 1 error during command execution 66 04 3d 01 01 02 12 1b ff 44 20 20 3d 01 11 02 CRC error in data field CRC error in data or address cylinder=61 head=1 sector=17 size=2 error during command execution 66 04 3d 01 01 02 12 1b ff 44 20 20 3d 01 11 02 CRC error in data field CRC error in data or address cylinder=61 head=1 sector=17 size=2 === I'm again leaning toward the idea that my floppy drives have gone southward. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Classic Gnubie accident
anthony wrote: one other clue is that I cannot save text files logged in as anthony (i get a no space left on device error) but I can as root in the same directory Ah, then perhaps you're out of drive space on that partition. (*nix leaves a small buffer available for root to write to, which normal users can't use). What's the result of df -h? -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: argh! linux and floppies
Douglas Tutty wrote: If you look in your /etc/fstab for the entry under floppy, you'll probably see something like: /dev/fd0/floppyautouser,noauto00 Its the 'auto' that's the problem. Try mounting it manually to determine what types to put here. You mean like: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 mnt FAT: invalid media value (0xf6) VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev fd0. mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk dmesg | tail floppy0: data CRC error: track 3, head 0, sector 5, size 2 end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 112 floppy0: data CRC error: track 3, head 0, sector 14, size 2 floppy0: data CRC error: track 3, head 0, sector 14, size 2 end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 121 floppy0: sector not found: track 0, head 0, sector 3, size 2 floppy0: sector not found: track 0, head 0, sector 3, size 2 end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 2 FAT: invalid media value (0xf6) VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev fd0. Granted, I only tried on three floppies, on two different machines, but one of the floppies was then taken to a Windows machine where it worked fine. It could be that both of my floppy drives have died since I last used floppies, but that seems a mite suspicious. I plan on trying these floppies on another couple of Debian boxes at work tomorrow. And I think I'll boot up this machine from Knoppix and see how it handles these floppies. More info later -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: argh! linux and floppies
Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: Could be the media. Try scraping the mold off with a couple of fdformat -n /dev/fd0u1440 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk sudo fdformat -n /dev/fd0u1440 /dev/fd0u1440: No such file or directory Hmm; apparently udev makes this command slightly obsolete now Then check it for errors with dd if=/dev/fd0 conv=noerror | sum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 conv=noerror | sum dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 5.73893 seconds, 0.0 kB/s dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 6.53883 seconds, 0.0 kB/s dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 7.33908 seconds, 0.0 kB/s dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error 0+0 records in and on and on and on. Try cleaning the head in the drive with a qtip and rubbing alcohol. This might do some good, but that'll have to wait until I have those things available. In the meanwhile, I'm going to try another couple of floppies, and via Knoppix. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: argh! linux and floppies
Kent West wrote: I'm going to try another couple of floppies, and via Knoppix. I just tried yet another floppy, and although it looked like it formatted properly, and I was able to copy a few files to it and read those files from it, I then did the verify thing again: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 conv=noerror | sum dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error 16+0 records in 16+0 records out 8192 bytes (8.2 kB) copied, 9.51669 seconds, 0.9 kB/s dd: reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error 16+0 records in 16+0 records out and on and on and on Now it's time to reboot and try Knoppix. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
