Re: lenny backups and recovery

2010-01-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100121_095411, Robert Brockway wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Paul E Condon wrote: Contrary to tldp advice, I think it is unnecessary to make backups of /bin or /sbin. These files are readily available from you favorite I'm very much a fan of backing up the entire system (with limited

apt-listbugs question

2010-02-02 Thread Paul E Condon
--- at least until I see too much for a while. But beyond those there lines, I get nothing. I don't believe there are no outstanding bugs in squeeze. What should I do to make it give output? Thanks, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: Bash question: get output as a variable?

2010-02-05 Thread Paul E Condon
page (or at least any man page that newbies know about). HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Read command field seperators in Bash

2010-02-14 Thread Paul E Condon
gawk may not be the default awk workalike in lenny, but it is certainly available in lenny, at least it was a couple of months ago, just before I switched to squeeze. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: General method for copying a partition

2010-02-18 Thread Paul E Condon
) -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100218190938.ga2...@big.lan.gnu

Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Paul E Condon
are running some version of Microsoft Windows, but is this also a threat to Linux, and, in particular, Debian with Iceweasel? Where can I look to read a discussion in more detail than this issue merits on this list? e.g. How does ZeuS work? And what does it do? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100218_132513, Mark wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:25:04 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: Today in Wall Street Journal (pg 3 in US edition), there is an article about hacker break-ins to computers via the internet. Mentioned as the method of break-in are spyware called ZeuS

Re: annoying 4gb seg fixup

2010-02-21 Thread Paul E Condon
is that stated? The only policy about this list I have found are 1.) English language and 2.) the implied general topic of using debian. For completeness, I think there is also a rule deprecating top posting 0:-) -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Minimum size for /home?

2010-03-04 Thread Paul E Condon
of thumbnails into a dot-hidden file in /home. If you save photos it is generally easy to make the software save the pictures in a special location (i.e. your shared partition) but the undocumented dot-files generally go some place that is not under your control. HTH -- Paul E Condon

Re: Minimum size for /home?

2010-03-05 Thread Paul E Condon
really matters then you really need a second HD or a bigger HD, not fussing with the size of your /home, IMHO. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: device name problem after update

2010-03-10 Thread Paul E Condon
are using Lenny, i.e. stable, as opposed to Squeeze, i.e. testing? -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org

Re: device name problem after update

2010-03-10 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100310_204803, Angelin Lalev wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: On 20100309_225735, Angelin Lalev wrote: After almost each update of my debian lenny kernel I have my IDE disk name changed. Once it's hda1 then is hdc1 and keeps flip

Re: Installer problem

2010-03-11 Thread Paul E Condon
-list item. Maybe the documentation should be rewritten to avoid suggesting that one install everything in one great surge. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

need help with xorg.conf

2010-03-11 Thread Paul E Condon
quidance would be greatly appreciated. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100312064216.ge4

Re: need help with xorg.conf

2010-03-12 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100312_092355, Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:42:16 -0500 (EST), Paul E Condon wrote: I have a cheap flat screen monitor on one of my computers. I works nicely, but not perfectly with Lenny. But in a much inferior way when I switch to Squeeze. In particular

Re: need help with xorg.conf

2010-03-12 Thread Paul E Condon
More information On 20100312_092355, Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:42:16 -0500 (EST), Paul E Condon wrote: I have a cheap flat screen monitor on one of my computers. I works nicely, but not perfectly with Lenny. But in a much inferior way when I switch to Squeeze

Re: need help with xorg.conf

2010-03-12 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100312_102211, John W Foster wrote: -Original Message- From: Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org snip Hi Paul: I read thru the install log from xorg it looks like everything is doing as it should. I am wondering if this new flat screen

question about fstab in squeeze and uuid

2010-03-12 Thread Paul E Condon
some more. Please make suggestions. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100312182755.gj4

Re: need help with xorg.conf

2010-03-12 Thread Paul E Condon
Wow! Thanks. But I need more help. See below. On 20100312_131114, Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:58:08 -0500 (EST), Paul E Condon wrote: On 20100312_092355, Stephen Powell wrote: Paul, please provide the following information: (1) Make and model of your computer

Re: question about fstab in squeeze and uuid

2010-03-12 Thread Paul E Condon
expect from a simple-minded probability calculation. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100313052658

Re: question about fstab in squeeze and uuid

2010-03-13 Thread Paul E Condon
have no good ideas to pursue and I have reached my attention span limit. I don't want to post with a subject line Solved, but it is true that I want to stop discussing this. Thanks to all. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: question about fstab in squeeze and uuid

2010-03-13 Thread Paul E Condon
learning stuff. I think this, which is verifiably true, contradicts some other things that I remember (and had thought were verifiably true). Thanks for this knowledge which is definitely new to me. It will take me sometime to integrate it into my belief system, but thanks. -- Paul E Condon

Re: question about fstab in squeeze and uuid

2010-03-13 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100313_144620, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:26:58 -0500 (EST), Paul E Condon wrote: A bit worrisome to me. UUID must be persistent during normal life of a device, so it can be used as an identifier. It is important to distinguish between a device and a partition

Re: need help with xorg.conf

2010-03-13 Thread Paul E Condon
in the man page for xorg.conf. I'll have to play around to see if I can get it to work. But that will have to wait for tomorrow. It's time for me to go to bed. The option UseBIOS documented in man savage, not in man xorg.conf There is a list of driver man pages in man xorg.conf -- Paul E Condon

Re: question about fstab in squeeze and uuid

2010-03-14 Thread Paul E Condon
of their internal components to be sure that those values are, in fact, universally unique. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: Increasing or Freeing inodes

2010-03-17 Thread Paul E Condon
output of find command to a file and sort the file by some plausible criterion and then look at result with less. You might find a lot of soft links and learn something from their names, which might give you a clue to how to fix. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: Change In Restarting Services (slightly OT)

2010-03-18 Thread Paul E Condon
can be added to Debian packages that need to manipulate an init script, and that it should be OK for a single user/self-admin to invoke the scripts directly (using sudo or su, of course). Am I right in this? -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Mailing list policy change?

2010-03-19 Thread Paul E Condon
a CC, I think this guy isn't a real DD --- I wonder if he knows what he's talking about. But if I violate the rules of list etiquette, I prefer to receive an email addressed directly to me rather than to be publicly shamed on the list. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: bash scripting question

2010-03-19 Thread Paul E Condon
other than '7'. To actually use in a script, replace the sleep command by whatever you want to measure the elapsed time for. Expressing elapsed time as HH:MM:SS requires a little more work. To write that script, use / for divide operator and % for remainder operator, like in C. -- Paul E Condon

Re: Transferring files over SSH in the console

2010-03-21 Thread Paul E Condon
work. Put the mount point in your home directory. If you can ssh to root on the remote, you can also get root access to the remote file system. It works for me. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-21 Thread Paul E Condon
. Where can I find out about such? -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100322045123.gb29

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100322_020950, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-21 23:51, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20100321_181749, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-21 17:52, Tom H wrote: *You* should not need to set the UUID. It should just magically be there. $ /sbin/blkid -t TYPE=swap /dev/sdb1: TYPE=swap LABEL=swap1

Re: How to obtain UUID of drives (squeeze udev lacks vol_id)

2010-03-24 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100322_175115, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-22 17:05, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] You answered my question --- I didn't know about blkid utility. With this one can give every partition a meaningful labels like --- LABEL=hda1 or whatever is displayed as the system device one one

Repartitioning a USB external HD. Need help removing existing partition

2010-03-25 Thread Paul E Condon
to write. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100326001728.ga12...@big.lan.gnu

Re: Repartitioning a USB external HD. Need help removing existing partition

2010-03-25 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100325_193701, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-25 19:17, Paul E Condon wrote: I just purchased a new Western Digital 'My Passport'. I've done this before and thought I knew what to do, but this one has new, modern features that are causing be problem pain. As delivered, the drive has

Re: Repartitioning a USB external HD. Need help removing existing partition

2010-03-25 Thread Paul E Condon
, whixh is progress. But I still need help. Thanks. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100326014955

Re: Repartitioning a USB external HD. Need help removing existing partition [SOLVED]

2010-03-25 Thread Paul E Condon
is solved, but not in a was that makes me happy about either company's support for Linux Also the new drive has a different kind of USB socket that I have not seen before. About the same size as current small end of USB cable but incompatible shape. Why? Thanks -- Paul E Condon pecon

Re: Repartitioning a USB external HD. Need help removing existing partition [SOLVED]

2010-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100326_005717, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Paul E Condon put forth on 3/25/2010 11:32 PM: Western Digital uses what must be the same software technology, but they call it Virtual-CD or VCD. They also provide a software fix. But the WD fix only disables VCD and makes the small partition

Squeeze Gnome Preferences Removable Drives and Media

2010-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
to be ignored as being somehow uninteresting to GUI users, or something. I can't find anything that is Debian specific on this. Help, please. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: Squeeze Gnome Preferences Removable Drives and Media

2010-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100326_164643, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-26 16:31, Paul E Condon wrote: I've been running Squeeze on my desktop computer for many weeks and just today noticed that Removable Drives and Media is not available in the Gnome Preferences menu. It is/was available in Lenny, but not Squeeze

Re: Squeeze Gnome Preferences Removable Drives and Media

2010-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100326_151046, Freeman wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 03:31:11PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I've been running Squeeze on my desktop computer for many weeks and just today noticed that Removable Drives and Media is not available in the Gnome Preferences menu. It is/was available

Re: Squeeze Gnome Preferences Removable Drives and Media

2010-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100327_003115, Michael Biebl wrote: On 26.03.2010 22:31, Paul E Condon wrote: I've been running Squeeze on my desktop computer for many weeks and just today noticed that Removable Drives and Media is not available in the Gnome Preferences menu. It is/was available in Lenny

Re: Squeeze Gnome Preferences Removable Drives and Media

2010-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100326_214159, Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:28:40 -0400 (EDT), Paul E Condon wrote: Was gvm ever involved in checking the number of times a volume has been mounted and running e2fsck as needed? What software is now (in squeeze) responsible for doing this check

Re: Squeeze Gnome Preferences Removable Drives and Media

2010-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
it in order to correct the error. OTOH, if it is in use there is no practical way to recover the subject file contents, so it is pointless to do anything but 'ignore'. Is this the situation? -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: Squeeze Gnome Preferences Removable Drives and Media

2010-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
, there is no entry in /etc/fstab. Assigning zero in cases where there is no entry in /etc/fstab is easy to implement, but --- I wonder if it is good design, given that the whole purpose of GUI interfaces is to make computing easy (and safe) for naive users. -- Paul E Condon pecon

HAL UID ?

2010-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
computer, so what is the import of this message? -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100327210247

Re: HAL UID ?

2010-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100327_212545, T o n g wrote: On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:02:47 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I am investigating pmount and pmount-hal IIRC, the HAL and everything related to it will be phased out soon. I won't recommend you spend time on something that'll be outdated soon. I sincerely

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 04:26:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: But I think I would like to have a record of what packages were actually installed. So I'm thinking of writing a script, to be run nightly, that puts a fresh copy of my

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm convinced that the suggestion is worthwhile, but I'm having difficulty following it. See below. On 2009-03-27_16:33:11, Owen Townend wrote: 2009/3/27 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net: On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Many of those packages will have been

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
. I'm still not sure what the query string should be. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: time server

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
/dates from early March in the Mountain time zone were in MDT this year but should not be treated as MDT for the year 1980. How could an investigator, or historian/archivist, deal with this? I said OT up front, didn't I? -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: mounting filesystems in Gnome

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
can't abide anything that smacks of Windows, so I really don't recommend backslashes as file separators, and I puzzled as to why Gnome offers a user the opportunity to select anything but forward slash. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-27_13:53:14, green wrote: Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 09:26 -0600: Now, the discussion has moved to how to query the packaging system to get the most useful file of information. I'm still not sure what the query string should be. Restoring the package set is not so

Re: Touchpad hangs on Lenny

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
GNU/Linux IIvanov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Question about get-selections - a little story

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-27_17:43:22, green wrote: Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 16:35 -0600: On 2009-03-27_13:53:14, green wrote: I think I have minimally tested these commands, but it has been a while. It would be great if someone could try this out and add a wiki page for it. ... want

Re: thunderbird and evolution

2009-03-28 Thread Paul E Condon
will be happy with. At least read a bit of the mutt-users list archives before you try it. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-28 Thread Paul E Condon
on www.debian.org? Where? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: thunderbird and evolution

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_00:49:55, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-28 23:31, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] Daniel, A word of caution about imap. I have been following the mutt-users list recently. There is a lot of traffic about getting mutt to work with imap. It seems to be possible for persons expert

Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_06:07:29, Thorny wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted: I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync to do backups locally between hosts on the same

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
to 'standard time', which now in the US is used for only a few weeks in the depths of winter. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
. Instead, computer technology has become an enabler of a feature of my culture that I do not like. And let's see what OP was really asking for also. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_16:19:28, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:07:54 Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_09:59:49, John Hasler wrote: Strong and Humble writes: Just wanted to know if it is possible to specify a time zone that has no winter time shift whole year? Sure

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_13:06:18, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-29 11:49, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] A few weeks ago, my Lenny system switched over from displaying time in MST (Mountain Standard Time) to MDT (Mountain Daylight Time). It did this, I believe, because the switch-over is mandated

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_17:14:44, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:49:22 Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_16:19:28, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:07:54 Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_09:59:49, John Hasler wrote: Strong and Humble writes: Just wanted

Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_16:45:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 09:36:17AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_06:07:29, Thorny wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted: I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_11:53:57, John Hasler wrote: Paul E Condon writes: I'm not OP, but I think I also want what, I believe, he wants, namely: A locale that I can select that will give me text displays of the time, and text displays of file mtimes that do not mention, or use, summer time, ever

Re: checking integrity of already written CD/DVD

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
with a script, but I haven't tried. I only burn CDs when Debian issues a new release, so its not high on my to-do list. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-30_10:31:27, Alex Samad wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:49:22AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_16:19:28, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:07:54 Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_09:59:49, John Hasler wrote: Strong and Humble writes: Just

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_20:58:05, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-29 20:47, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-30_10:31:27, Alex Samad wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:49:22AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_16:19:28, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2009 17:07:54 Paul E Condon wrote

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_16:01:29, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-29 14:05, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_13:06:18, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-29 11:49, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] A few weeks ago, my Lenny system switched over from displaying time in MST (Mountain Standard Time) to MDT

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
/local logic. I appreciate them giving it mnemonic names and making it available for general use, via the Etc designation. I am continually amazed by Debian. Every day in every way it gets better and better. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-30_09:41:58, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:13:12PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Paul E Condon writes: The current standard is better described as a de-jure standard, IMHO. Didn't Congress pass a law on this issue? Of course. Otherwise we might have people

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_11:15:15, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-29 10:49, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_22:29:41, Strong and Humble wrote: Good day. Just wanted to know if it is possible to specify a time zone that has no winter time shift whole year? What I want is to stay the same time

Question about proxy servers for debian packages

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
matter? And, are there any other proxy servers for packages that I haven't found, and are worth while? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-31_07:58:03, Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 02:50:55PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_11:15:15, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-29 10:49, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_22:29:41, Strong and Humble wrote: Good day. [snip] If you only have Linux

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-30_16:21:39, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-30 15:50, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_11:15:15, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] If you only have Linux on your computer, then it's clock is most likely UTC. On a Linux computer, the internal clock is almost certainly *NOT* UTC, rather

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-31_00:12:57, Tom Furie wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 04:47:38PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: Now, I want to stop arguing about the descriptions. But just one last shot. I believe it is factually incorrect to say that you 'lose an hour' in switching from standard to summer time

Re: [OT] To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-30_16:39:46, Mike Bird wrote: On Mon March 30 2009 16:12:57 Tom Furie wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 04:47:38PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: Now, I want to stop arguing about the descriptions. But just one last shot. I believe it is factually incorrect to say that you 'lose

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-30_18:57:33, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-30 17:47, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-30_16:21:39, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-30 15:50, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-29_11:15:15, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] If you only have Linux on your computer, then it's clock is most

Re: checking integrity of already written CD/DVD

2009-03-31 Thread Paul E Condon
checking. If you are unlucky and have hardware with unreliable EOF sensing, you need to take extra measures in verifying the accuracy of a burn. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

2009-03-31 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-31_08:25:57, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-30 21:47, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-30_18:57:33, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Whoever decided on an epoch of 1970-01-01 00:00:00 was extraordinarily shortsighted, though. The OpenVMS epoch gives much more flexibility... I'm

Re: checking integrity of already written CD/DVD more info

2009-03-31 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-31_08:18:16, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-03-31_09:53:51, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Sun,29.Mar.09, 20:28:44, Angelin Lalev wrote: Is there a way to check a written DVD against the checksum of the iso image written on it? In 20090329202842.ga3...@think.homelan

Re: Installing Squeeze testing

2009-04-01 Thread Paul E Condon
of the last things to be gotten working proir to release, and Squeeze is not about to be released, I think. Perhaps you should install Lenny from a newly downloaded netinst, and then dist-upgrade, or whatever, to Squeeze. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: checking integrity of already written CD/DVD more info

2009-04-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-01_10:34:41, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 31.03.09 12:57, Paul E Condon wrote: I did an experiment with the drive that always truncated the dd read of the CD. The iso is lenny business card. This iso is 18133 blocks of 2048 bytes each. The read back using dd on the short read

question about grub-install

2009-04-01 Thread Paul E Condon
is no help. It seems to be identical to the man page. Lastly, will the answers change for grub2? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Flash Player Pkg?

2009-04-04 Thread Paul E Condon
What is the package to install to get adobe flash player in Lenny? I think I read that its name is 'flashplayer-nonfree', but I find only flashplayer-nonfree-extrasound, which doesn't strike me as what I want (wrong name, etc.) TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: Flash Player Pkg?

2009-04-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-04_21:11:05, Francisco Ant?nio da Silva Souza wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.netwrote: What is the package to install to get adobe flash player in Lenny? I think I read that its name is 'flashplayer-nonfree', but I find only

Re: Flash Player Pkg?

2009-04-05 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-05_01:36:32, Francisco Ant?nio da Silva Souza wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.netwrote: Well I am having problems with gpg. The FAQ tells me to click on a hotlink. When I do that a pop-up called Archive Manager offers to store

Question about ext2/3 directory lookups

2009-04-07 Thread Paul E Condon
, and need to decide how to organize them. There won't be much activity. It will be an archive, but linked list would probably be unacceptable for this number of files even in an archive. (User would forget why he want to look at the file before it finally opened ;-) Advise welcome. -- Paul E Condon

Update-alternatives questions

2009-04-13 Thread Paul E Condon
to be? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Time keeps on slippin, slippin... (serious clock drift; suggestions??)

2009-04-14 Thread Paul E Condon
getting ntp time frequently and as it learns what parameters are needed to correct for the local clock as manufactured. It backs off on the frequency of its ntp queries. All in all, a remarkably well done solution. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Time keeps on slippin, slippin... (serious clock drift; suggestions??)

2009-04-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-15_07:24:03, John Hasler wrote: Paul E Condon writes: Look into the package chrony. I agree that he should install Chrony (everyone should :)) but I think he has more wrong than just an outlier crystal. Four minutes per hour is 66,667 parts per million. You can do better than

ethernet card, the debian way ?

2009-04-17 Thread Paul E Condon
up a LAN connection on the add-on LAN card? Since I think I have good reason to believe that the built-in has gone bad, I would like to have it skipped over during all setup. How? I can't exactly remove it. It seems to be soldered in place. TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon

Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

2009-04-21 Thread Paul E Condon
-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-23 Thread Paul E Condon
. I've sort of subsumed the meat of their idea into a larger backup system. I haven't tested rebuilding a system that crashed and burned form by nightly backups, but I'm sure that I'll be better off with these files than without them if I ever have to rebuild from scratch. HTH -- Paul E Condon

Debian and the future: IPv6

2009-05-22 Thread Paul E Condon
, that has been in future and likely always will be --- in the future? I don't feel any need for IPv6. I'm just wondering when, if ever, I will need to confront it as a new reality in daily life. TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)

2009-05-23 Thread Paul E Condon
contemplate why you messed up. No need to explain it to anyone. Cheers, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Rogue Filename - Can't Do A Thing With It

2009-05-25 Thread Paul E Condon
, like new-line. (Yes, new-line is not dis-allowed by any rule. Therefore it is allowed.) I think there is a feature in emacs that allows editing of directory contents, and special features in ls that support it. I've never used it, but it sounds like what you did on the Apple//e. -- Paul E

Re: Is gnome built on top of twm?

2009-05-26 Thread Paul E Condon
(deliberately?) leave the curtain imperfectly closed, so users can see them at work, doing their magic. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Does the vfat partition need defrag under Gnu/Linux ?

2009-05-28 Thread Paul E Condon
, be sure it is finished), unplug the newly formatted disk, wait a few seconds and plug it in again. It should mount automatically with it's new volume name. Copy the data back onto it from wherever you saved it in step (2) HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

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