Re: MySQL access denied for user
Bill Wohler <woh...@newt.com> wrote: > I'm getting the following: > > $ mysql -h localhost -u user > Enter password: > ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'user'@'localhost' (using > password: YES) > > This user was created with a fresh installation of mysql as (mysql) root > with the following: > > mysql> create user 'user'@'localhost' identified by 'password'; > Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) > mysql> GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE, DROP, INDEX, ALTER, > CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON database.* TO 'user'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY > 'password' with grant option; > Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) > > I'm trying to create a database user for Drupal, but am not having any > luck. Help for a MySQL newb is very much appreciated. I should point out that I've installed Drupal 8 from drupal.org since that isn't available to jessie (to my knowledge). I'd much prefer to say aptitude install drupal8 and get on with my web site rather than fight battles with mysql for literally days. > This is on jessie with MySQL 5.5. > > -- > Bill Wohler <woh...@newt.com> aka <bill.woh...@nasa.gov> > http://www.newt.com/wohler/ > GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- Bill Wohler <woh...@newt.com> aka <bill.woh...@nasa.gov> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD
MySQL access denied for user
I'm getting the following: $ mysql -h localhost -u user Enter password: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'user'@'localhost' (using password: YES) This user was created with a fresh installation of mysql as (mysql) root with the following: mysql> create user 'user'@'localhost' identified by 'password'; Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) mysql> GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE, CREATE, DROP, INDEX, ALTER, CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON database.* TO 'user'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password' with grant option; Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) I'm trying to create a database user for Drupal, but am not having any luck. Help for a MySQL newb is very much appreciated. This is on jessie with MySQL 5.5. -- Bill Wohler <woh...@newt.com> aka <bill.woh...@nasa.gov> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD
Re: Wheezy Sleezy Gnome
cletusjenkins cletusjenk...@zoho.com writes: I recently bought a laptop, it came pre-installed with wheezy (because the nvidia driver needed a newer kernel). I really dislike the new version of gnome. I feel like my expensive laptop is hobbled. It feels like a slow $100 android tablet instead of a powerful computer. I can't customize anything about the desktop. This is beginning to be more an more and more of a feature for me. Anyway, folks traumatized by GNOME 3 might be interested in my blog, Why I hate GNOME 3.0: http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#hate-gnome-3 I would also encourage you to read my blog, Why I love GNOME 3.0: http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#love-gnome-3 These were written when 3.0 first came out (on Fedora, which I was using at work). I'm looking forward to trying 3.4 when I have time to upgrade to wheezy. Everything is buried under layers and layers of menus and all the apps are in jumbled lists. I installed several other desktops, icewm, lxde, kde, etc. I've never really liked KDE, but it seems to have decided to go in much of the same direction gnome has (and windows 8, so maybe just maybe someone at gnome should do some serious thinking about that, if you find you are doing the same thing microsoft is doing that should be a ). I like using LXDE and some of the other alternative on older, low-power machines, but most still have a hodge-podge look that screams windows 95. Icewm was my favorite in the early 0x, but they lost me when icepref disappeared. Anywhoo. xfce looks the best of the bunch to me. My old laptop (the one I'm writing this on) has squeeze with gnome 2.30.2. Is there anyway to get an actual gnome *desktop* on wheezy sans all this metro-esque crap? -- clet debian is my main squeeze -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ppwvfy26@olgas.newt.com
Getting rid of Media Cache directory
Does anyone know who keeps creating ~/Media Cache and how I can get them to stop? -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/14481.1354644...@olgas.newt.com
Re: Corrupted security update package files
Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de writes: * Bill Wohler: When updating lenny this morning (yes, upgrading is on my todo list), I got the following error: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: Couldn't rebuild package cache The security archive underwent maintenance this weekend. This issue has been addressed. Confirmed, thanks! -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mxb8vxhw@olgas.newt.com
Corrupted security update package files
When updating lenny this morning (yes, upgrading is on my todo list), I got the following error: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: Couldn't rebuild package cache Looking on the mailing list, it appears to be a problem with squeeze as well. I tried clearing the files in /var/lib/apt/lists. I still got a zero-sized Packages file: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root92374 Dec 3 09:43 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_Release -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 836 Dec 3 09:43 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_Release.gpg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_contrib_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_contrib_source_Sources -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1870959 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 480423 Dec 3 09:36 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_source_Sources -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_non-free_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_non-free_source_Sources Is there an ETA on when these files will be fixed? -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/22963.1322951...@olgas.newt.com
Re: Corrupted security update package files
Bill Wohler woh...@olgas.newt.com wrote: I still got a zero-sized Packages file: Those are for contrib and non-free, which might be expected. The error was in the main distribution, which does have mostly valid looking content, but which is still generating the aforementioned error. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1870959 Dec 3 09:37 security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/23544.1322953...@olgas.newt.com
GNOME 3 mini HOWTOs
Hey folks, It sounds like GNOME 3 is getting into testing. Like many of you, I wasn't happy about it when it got into Fedora at work. However, I gave it a try and now MUCH prefer it. I wrote up a couple of blogs about my experience. This one describes how to work with the new paradigm. http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#love-gnome-3 If, after giving it a try, you're still not convinced, read this blog which describes how to bring back the old UI. http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#hate-gnome-3 These blogs were written for Fedora, so the Debian details may be a bit different. I've been running stable for some time and am looking forward to seeing GNOME 3 in stable. Here are a couple of additional related blogs: http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#gnome-3-desktop-metaphor http://www.newt.com/debian/blog.html#gnome-3-cpu-temperature-applet Hope these help! -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r512twgt@olgas.newt.com
Re: [OT] Why not gnome3 (with gnome-shell)?
Alan Chandler a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk writes: Now I've been running it for about a week I am really starting to like it EXCEPT FOR ONE THING I really wish the hot spot for shrinking the desktop could be moved to the bottom left. I keep accidentally using it when moving to the browser back button. (DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MOVE IT) Agreed. That's a really good idea worth getting to the developers. -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mxbqtw8l@olgas.newt.com
Re: Why is exim installed by default?
Andrew Wood a@me.com writes: I see. thanks for the replies. if I was to install postfix in the future as a 'proper' mail server would it conflict? Yes. exim4 will be removed if you install postfix. At one point, years ago, exim either caused me a problem or lacked a feature I needed and so I tried postfix. I've been running postfix ever since on my client machines (laptops and workstations) and servers alike. -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871uu6pcxl@olgas.newt.com
Annoying iwlagn log spam
Sometimes my syslog starts filling up with the following message: Apr 6 08:02:12 olgas kernel: [44546.661749] iwlagn :03:00.0: GF was set with SGI:SISO It can occur hundreds of times a *second*. Does anyone know what is wrong and what can be done to make it stop? I find that I can make it stop temporarily by disconnecting my wireless connection and connecting again. But it always comes back after a few hours. -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/31463.1302106...@olgas.newt.com
iwlagn log spam
With my recent installation of squeeze, I am now getting the following log message several times a second: Sep 16 20:41:01 olgas kernel: [859531.773469] iwlagn :03:00.0: GF was set with SGI:SISO I tried to JFGI but came up with zero hits. Has anyone figured out what this message is and how to make it go away? -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/29634.1284695...@olgas.newt.com
Re: 64-bit netbooks with Debian linux
Peter Tenenbaum quar...@gmail.com writes: First, I intend to build a home computer which will run linux, and it will be 64-bit; since I'm quite new to maintaining my own linux computers, I'd rather limit the number of differences between the home machine and my portable. Hi PT, In regards to Debian, don't let this be a discriminator. If you had a 64-bit and 32-bit system, it would only mean that you'd have to burn two installation CDs. Once those CDs were installed, your installations would be mostly indistinguishable. After the initial install, Debian grabs the right bits for your system. When I switched from 32-bit to 64-bit, the only difference I saw besides a different installation image was a different kernel. -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com aka bill.woh...@nasa.gov http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871vdgqt4k@olgas.newt.com
Re: Segmentation fault in dpkg and aptitude
pob...@fuzzydev.org writes: Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com writes: I found I was able to run apt-get -f install twice and be able to use aptitude to perform package maintenance again. However, now I'm finding that Emacs and Firefox (Iceweasel) die with segmentation faults at random times. Wonder if I'll get this email away... Has anyone seen these problems as a result of updating these packages? Here's a trimmed excerpt from /var/log/aptitude: [...] I'm sorry if this is not useful, but it sounds to me like your problem is an anomaly. None of the packages installed/upgrades (besides perhaps libx11) should be affecting Emacs or Firefox. So the question is, if you try to reinstall the broken packages, do they work? That's worth a shot, thanks. On the other hand, Emacs and Firefox were still running this morning... Weird. -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Segmentation fault in dpkg and aptitude
Daniel Burrows dburr...@debian.org writes: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 09:48:37PM -0700, Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com was heard to say: Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com writes: After making the following changes to pull in sid's bluez 4.0 package in a lenny system, I'm now getting segmentation faults when I run dpkg and aptitude. Any thoughts on how to recover from this? I found I was able to run apt-get -f install twice and be able to use aptitude to perform package maintenance again. However, now I'm finding that Emacs and Firefox (Iceweasel) die with segmentation faults at random times. Wonder if I'll get this email away... It sounds like bad memory to me. Have you tried running a memory checker? Thanks, Daniel. No I haven't since it hadn't occurred to me: the machine is new and I just added some good quality Mushkin memory. I'll try memtester, although the documentation says it won't be able to test all 8 GB of my memory. Then I'll try memtest86+ when I'm not using the machine. It's been a long, long time since I've used these. Any other suggestions? -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Segmentation fault in dpkg and aptitude
Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com writes: Daniel Burrows dburr...@debian.org writes: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 09:48:37PM -0700, Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com was heard to say: Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com writes: After making the following changes to pull in sid's bluez 4.0 package in a lenny system, I'm now getting segmentation faults when I run dpkg and aptitude. Any thoughts on how to recover from this? I found I was able to run apt-get -f install twice and be able to use aptitude to perform package maintenance again. However, now I'm finding that Emacs and Firefox (Iceweasel) die with segmentation faults at random times. Wonder if I'll get this email away... It sounds like bad memory to me. Have you tried running a memory checker? Thanks, Daniel. No I haven't since it hadn't occurred to me: the machine is new and I just added some good quality Mushkin memory. I'll try memtester, although the documentation says it won't be able to test all 8 GB of my memory. Then I'll try memtest86+ when I'm not using the machine. It's been a long, long time since I've used these. Any other suggestions? Daniel, You hit the nail on the head. I ran memtest86+. The original block of memory came out clean. The new Mushkin memory had thousands of errors. Never seen that before. Wonder if that was related to the earlier issues I had with aptitude/apt-get/dpkg? Maybe not since I hadn't seen the segmentation violation in any of them after running apt-get -f install twice. But maybe... Let's see if my workaround works for David K Jackson. -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Segmentation fault in dpkg and aptitude
After making the following changes to pull in sid's bluez 4.0 package in a lenny system, I'm now getting segmentation faults when I run dpkg and aptitude. Any thoughts on how to recover from this? For example: $ sudo aptitude update Segmentation fault Here are some messages from /var/log/syslog: Jul 19 13:47:38 olgas kernel: [ 1791.378162] apt-listchanges[11214]: segfault at 800 ip 00446702 sp 7fff1eb16f90 error 4 in python2.5[40+125000] Jul 19 13:47:38 olgas kernel: [ 1791.523514] apt-listchanges[11216]: segfault at 1731670 ip 004d5f08 sp 7fff8060fe80 error 4 in python2.5[40+125000] Jul 19 13:47:41 olgas kernel: [ 1794.964660] dpkg[11230]: segfault at 2008 ip 0040b0c4 sp 7fff02c49040 error 4 in dpkg[40+61000] Jul 19 13:48:22 olgas kernel: [ 1835.600343] aptitude[11320]: segfault at 118 ip 00538150 sp 7fff40c13fa0 error 4 in aptitude[40+22a000] Jul 19 13:53:06 olgas kernel: [ 2119.972216] aptitude[11630]: segfault at 7f4e555e428c ip 7f38c73a3517 sp 7fffcf840c10 error 4 in libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6.0[7f38c7365000+bd000] Here's a trimmed excerpt from /var/log/aptitude: Aptitude 0.4.11.11: log report Sun, Jul 19 2009 12:33:18 -0700 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libbluetooth3 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libnl1 [INSTALL] bluez [UPGRADE] bluez-utils 3.36-3 - 4.42-2 Aptitude 0.4.11.11: log report Sun, Jul 19 2009 12:51:29 -0700 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] consolekit [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libck-connector0 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpam-ck-connector [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-dbus2 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-gnome0 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-grant2 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit2 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-atom1 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-aux0 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-event1 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] obex-data-server [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] policykit [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] policykit-gnome [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] python-pyrex [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] bluez-gnome [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-xlib0 [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-xlib0-dev [INSTALL] blueman [UPGRADE] libstartup-notification0 0.9-1 - 0.10-1 [UPGRADE] libx11-6 2:1.1.5-2 - 2:1.2.1-1 [UPGRADE] libx11-dev 2:1.1.5-2 - 2:1.2.1-1 [UPGRADE] libxcb1 1.1-1.2 - 1.3-2 [UPGRADE] libxcb1-dev 1.1-1.2 - 1.3-2 -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Segmentation fault in dpkg and aptitude
Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com writes: After making the following changes to pull in sid's bluez 4.0 package in a lenny system, I'm now getting segmentation faults when I run dpkg and aptitude. Any thoughts on how to recover from this? I found I was able to run apt-get -f install twice and be able to use aptitude to perform package maintenance again. However, now I'm finding that Emacs and Firefox (Iceweasel) die with segmentation faults at random times. Wonder if I'll get this email away... Has anyone seen these problems as a result of updating these packages? Here's a trimmed excerpt from /var/log/aptitude: Aptitude 0.4.11.11: log report Sun, Jul 19 2009 12:33:18 -0700 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libbluetooth3 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libnl1 [INSTALL] bluez [UPGRADE] bluez-utils 3.36-3 - 4.42-2 Aptitude 0.4.11.11: log report Sun, Jul 19 2009 12:51:29 -0700 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] consolekit [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libck-connector0 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpam-ck-connector [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-dbus2 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-gnome0 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-grant2 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit2 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-atom1 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-aux0 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-event1 [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] obex-data-server [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] policykit [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] policykit-gnome [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] python-pyrex [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] bluez-gnome [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-xlib0 [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-xlib0-dev [INSTALL] blueman [UPGRADE] libstartup-notification0 0.9-1 - 0.10-1 [UPGRADE] libx11-6 2:1.1.5-2 - 2:1.2.1-1 [UPGRADE] libx11-dev 2:1.1.5-2 - 2:1.2.1-1 [UPGRADE] libxcb1 1.1-1.2 - 1.3-2 [UPGRADE] libxcb1-dev 1.1-1.2 - 1.3-2 -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New Debian Wiki online with lot of working howtos
Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com writes: I don't mean to be a downer, but why not just write your HowTos on http://wiki.debian.org? It's a subdomain of the official Debian website, and from my experience splitting information between sites just makes things harder to find. Perhaps Christoph didn't know about wiki.debian.org. I agree, Christoph will reach a wider audience by moving his content over to wiki.debian.org. -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ifplugd versus laptop-net
Bob Alexander b...@ngi.it wrote: Dear friends, after having used ifplugd for quite a while with total satisfaction, as some of you might recall since a couple of weeks my laptop finished booting without the interface being IP configured. I tried uninstalling ifplugd and installing laptop-net and the machine again does what is expected: come up with a DHCP served address at home and in the office and reconfigure eth0 when the cable has been replugged. So I gather that makes the choice between the two packages for me :) Hope this is of some interest to someone, It was to me, but unfortunately I never had time to play with either so I was just using ifup manually :-(. However, I just recently purchased a new ThinkPad T500 and installed a newly release copy of lenny. The laptop task was preselected during the installation, so I got whatever it had. Almost all of the laptopy things worked out of the box. Unfortunately, I do require a fixed IP address on my home wireless network. gnome-network-manager does not support this. I replaced it with wicd and it has been managing both my wired and wireless networks quite satisfactorily. Now it is my turn to hope that this is of some interest to someone :-). -- Bill Wohler woh...@newt.com http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: State of 64bit desktop
kj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At work I'm starting to push the limits of my RAM with MySQL/InnoDB on my workstation (I do dev/testing on my workstation). I have 64bit hardware, capable of taking 8gb memory. I know what you mean. I recently bumped my machine up to 12 GB and it's already full. What I'm worried about is the tools I use. In particular, I need a browser with all the usual suspects working properly: flash and java (unfortunately some of the tools I need to use at work are written in these abominable languages). Does anyone do heavy java and flash usage under 64bit Debian (I'm running Lenny)? One tool in particular I'm forced to use is the Raritan KVM interface. It's horrible. I'm using etch. I did find one HOWTO on 64-bit Debian that had the quick way and the slow way. The quick way failed to handle flash. Until the slow way becomes a quick way, it's a non-starter. Fortunately, I'd only need flash if I were goofing off, and everything else we use is 64-bit, so I get along fine. I'm using the sun-java6-jdk package from non-free and it works fine with the Java apps that I use: Eclipse, Squirrel, iReport, MATLAB, etc. Not to mention compile and run the Kepler apps we're developing at NASA. (Fortunately, these are all written in Java. :-) If I'm hearing folks correctly, is 32-bit flash running out of the box on 64-bit lenny now? If it's not running out of the box, could someone please post a link to a HOWTO? Thanks! -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: security.debian.org issues?
Pavlos Parissis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:00:15 -0700 Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started having trouble downloading packages from security.debian.org over the weekend. aptitude fails with: Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main iceweasel 2.0.0.16-0etch1 Connection failed [IP: 130.89.175.54 80] Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main libxul0d 1.8.0.15~pre080614d-0etch1 Connection failed [IP: 212.211.132.250 80] Has anyone else been seeing this problem? Is there a known problem at security.debian.org? If so, what is the estimated time of repair? No, I haven't seen any problems. Thanks. There was another security update and that seemed to clear whatever problem I was seeing since I was finally able to upgrade. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
security.debian.org issues?
I started having trouble downloading packages from security.debian.org over the weekend. aptitude fails with: Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main iceweasel 2.0.0.16-0etch1 Connection failed [IP: 130.89.175.54 80] Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main libxul0d 1.8.0.15~pre080614d-0etch1 Connection failed [IP: 212.211.132.250 80] Has anyone else been seeing this problem? Is there a known problem at security.debian.org? If so, what is the estimated time of repair? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In my case, a reboot was required to load the new versions of about a dozen libraries. (Killing and restarting X did not do it.) Once I did that, weird rendering problems in Gecko went away. It can't hurt. You don't have to reboot to restart the X server. You have at least two easy methods at your disposal to do so: 1. C-A-Backspace (that's Control-Alt-Backspace to non-Emacs folks) 2. /etc/init.d/gdm restart (replace gdm with your display manager) I perform these after logging out in order to save my session. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox/Iceweasel 3: agony of the snail
Jim McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An upgrade to testing this afternoon unexpectedly brought me Firefox/Iceweasel 3.0, which was fairly exciting. Here, though, it is just agonizingly slow---10-12 seconds between clicking `Bookmarks' in the Toolbar and the display of the menu. Scrolling through: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/thrd4.html is like wading through thick, thick mud. When one moves from screen to screen, iceweasel/firefox takes about 7 or 8 seconds to redraw its window. It's really unusable. Is anyone else seeing this? Nope. $ grep -B1 -A4 'drivers/' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) LoadModule: radeon (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so (II) Module radeon: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 4.3.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 $ grep 'Accel\|XAA\|EXA' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (==) RADEON(0): Using XAA acceleration architecture (II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled It sounds like others are OK too. The good news is that once you get your X drivers straightened out, your entire UI experience will probably improve dramatically. Florian, thanks for the grep examples. I didn't know about the -B and -A flags, and they are bound to be handy! -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ath5k anyone?
David Goodenough [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As he is running 2.6.25 there is no need to run module-assistant, as ath5k is build into the kernel. So the problem is not building it, but rather using it. Hi David, Correct on all counts. Yes, ath5k is built into 2.6.25 so it should just work. And I've been building madwifi-source with m-a and using it for years. A recent change in either madwifi or the kernel has caused my wireless connections to drop periodically which is what prompted me to investigate ath5k, especially since new development has switched from madwifi to ath5k. Also note that I did associate with the AP, but just couldn't set up a network connection as shown below. Another reader suggested that my network parameters were missing a broadcast address, but a default broadcast address is provided, and adding an explicit address didn't change things. However Pavel Roskin thought that it might be a WEP issue. Sure enough, when I disabled WEP, my network came up! So it appears that ath5k has WEP issues with my device. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ath5k anyone?
Hey folks, Has anyone had any luck with the ath5k driver? I've installed linux-image-2.6.25-2-686. My /etc/network/interfaces file says: auto ath0 iface ath0 inet static wireless_essid ESSID wireless_key KEY address ADDRESS netmask MASK gateway GW When I say ifup ath0, iwconfig reveals that ath0 is associated to my AP, ifconfig looks right (as it should with a static config). dmesg looks great too: ath5k_pci :02:02.0: registered as 'phy0' phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'pid' ath5k phy0: Atheros AR5211 chip found (MAC: 0x42, PHY: 0x30) ath5k phy0: RF5111 5GHz radio found (0x17) ath5k phy0: RF2111 2GHz radio found (0x23) udev: renamed network interface wlan0 to ath0 ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): ath0: link is not ready ath0: Initial auth_alg=0 ath0: authenticate with AP 02:1e:58:07:5d:f2 ath0: RX authentication from 02:1e:58:07:5d:f2 (alg=0 transaction=2 status=0) ath0: authenticated ath0: associate with AP 02:1e:58:07:5d:f2 ath0: RX AssocResp from 02:1e:58:07:5d:f2 (capab=0x11 status=0 aid=2) ath0: associated ath0: switched to short barker preamble (BSSID=02:1e:58:07:5d:f2) ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): ath0: link becomes ready ath0: CTS protection enabled (BSSID=02:1e:58:07:5d:f2) ath0: switched to long barker preamble (BSSID=02:1e:58:07:5d:f2) ath0: no IPv6 routers present However, I can't ping my access point. Do I need some extra magic in /etc/network/interfaces? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pulseaudio to replace ESD in lenny?
RH 8 has switched to pulseaudio, SUSE is considering it. I was wondering what was on the mind of the Debian developers. Are they considering switching to it at some point in the future? For you users who have tried pulseaudio, I have two questions: Did you go back to esd or not? Why? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Text on printed pages truncated
Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Douglas Tutty dtutty at porchlight.ca writes: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:44:16PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote, in part: I just pulled in epiphany and it gives the same truncated text behavior as iceweasel. the truncation with gnucash is somewhat different, but may be related. So that's three apps printing html with truncated text and at least two of them (epiphany and gnucash) use libgnomeprint. and iceweasel is using gtk and maybe they've got gnome printing statically linked in? or use gnome printing to build their print enging? (thus not showing the dependency). anyway, that's all I've got. Nevertheless, it is far better than nothing. I need to review carefully which of the applications I use cause the truncation and which do not. So far, I have discovered that anything printed through Dosemu is okay. Pdf files printed from the Acrobat reader are okay, but not those printed from other pdf readers including Kpdf and Xpdf. What happens if you print to a ps file from all the aps then read the ps with gv? That should show you if the problem is in the converstion to ps or in the conversion of ps to the printer's format. Hey folks, has anyone made any progress on this? The odd thing is, I wasn't seeing this problem in lenny (which was an upgrade from etch which was an upgrade from sarge which may also have been an upgrade from woody). However, after my disk went south and I installed a fresh copy of lenny this weekend, I now see the problem. FYI, if I print to PDF from Gnucash and view the PDF from evince, the top of the report is cut off, so the problem lies in the app to PDF conversion. OK, weird. Now it's working. The only related things I've done since before is add my printer to CUPS and reboot. Here is some more info: Jim Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it was a paper size issue, and installing a printer changed your default papersize? You can change the current setting with dpkg-reconfigure libpaper1. I noticed in your system information: Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) (ignored: LC_ALL set to C) If LC_ALL was set to C during installation, I think libpaper1 would have defaulted to A4 (because locale width and locale height return A4 size in that case) -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Text on printed pages truncated
Douglas Tutty dtutty at porchlight.ca writes: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:44:16PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote, in part: I just pulled in epiphany and it gives the same truncated text behavior as iceweasel. the truncation with gnucash is somewhat different, but may be related. So that's three apps printing html with truncated text and at least two of them (epiphany and gnucash) use libgnomeprint. and iceweasel is using gtk and maybe they've got gnome printing statically linked in? or use gnome printing to build their print enging? (thus not showing the dependency). anyway, that's all I've got. Nevertheless, it is far better than nothing. I need to review carefully which of the applications I use cause the truncation and which do not. So far, I have discovered that anything printed through Dosemu is okay. Pdf files printed from the Acrobat reader are okay, but not those printed from other pdf readers including Kpdf and Xpdf. What happens if you print to a ps file from all the aps then read the ps with gv? That should show you if the problem is in the converstion to ps or in the conversion of ps to the printer's format. Hey folks, has anyone made any progress on this? The odd thing is, I wasn't seeing this problem in lenny (which was an upgrade from etch which was an upgrade from sarge which may also have been an upgrade from woody). However, after my disk went south and I installed a fresh copy of lenny this weekend, I now see the problem. FYI, if I print to PDF from Gnucash and view the PDF from evince, the top of the report is cut off, so the problem lies in the app to PDF conversion. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Text on printed pages truncated
Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Douglas Tutty dtutty at porchlight.ca writes: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:44:16PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote, in part: I just pulled in epiphany and it gives the same truncated text behavior as iceweasel. the truncation with gnucash is somewhat different, but may be related. So that's three apps printing html with truncated text and at least two of them (epiphany and gnucash) use libgnomeprint. and iceweasel is using gtk and maybe they've got gnome printing statically linked in? or use gnome printing to build their print enging? (thus not showing the dependency). anyway, that's all I've got. Nevertheless, it is far better than nothing. I need to review carefully which of the applications I use cause the truncation and which do not. So far, I have discovered that anything printed through Dosemu is okay. Pdf files printed from the Acrobat reader are okay, but not those printed from other pdf readers including Kpdf and Xpdf. What happens if you print to a ps file from all the aps then read the ps with gv? That should show you if the problem is in the converstion to ps or in the conversion of ps to the printer's format. Hey folks, has anyone made any progress on this? The odd thing is, I wasn't seeing this problem in lenny (which was an upgrade from etch which was an upgrade from sarge which may also have been an upgrade from woody). However, after my disk went south and I installed a fresh copy of lenny this weekend, I now see the problem. FYI, if I print to PDF from Gnucash and view the PDF from evince, the top of the report is cut off, so the problem lies in the app to PDF conversion. OK, weird. Now it's working. The only related things I've done since before is add my printer to CUPS and reboot. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sound-juicer and rhythmbox can't see CD-ROM, but nautilus, gnome-cd and totem can
As the subject says, I can mount data CDs, play DVDs with totem, and play audio CDs with gnome-cd. However, I don't get the usual CD icon in rhythmbox when an audio CD is inserted, and sound-juicer produces a No CD-ROM drives found--Sound Juicer could not find any CD-ROM drives to read message and exits. Now, both rhythmbox and sound-juicer played CDs just fine a week ago before my disk crashed and I reinstalled lenny from scratch. Any thoughts on diagnosing this problem? ThinkPad T40p, lenny. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sound-juicer and rhythmbox can't see CD-ROM, but nautilus, gnome-cd and totem can [SOLVED]
Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the subject says, I can mount data CDs, play DVDs with totem, and play audio CDs with gnome-cd. However, I don't get the usual CD icon in rhythmbox when an audio CD is inserted, and sound-juicer produces a No CD-ROM drives found--Sound Juicer could not find any CD-ROM drives to read message and exits. Now, both rhythmbox and sound-juicer played CDs just fine a week ago before my disk crashed and I reinstalled lenny from scratch. Any thoughts on diagnosing this problem? Rebooting set things right. I still don't understand why things got wedged as described, nor why rebooting cleared it up. Who knows, maybe it was just logging out and back in again. Here's another observation: I'm now seeing the Audio Disc icon on the desktop when the audio CD is inserted. I don't recall seeing that before. Anyway, if you have any thoughts on this, I'd still be interested to hear them. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LEDs, gnome-power-manager, and ThinkPads
Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to turn the light to the CD-ROM off when I suspend and then
back on when I resume. This can be done by calling echo 4 on |
/proc/acpi/ibm/led and echo 4 off | /proc/acpi/ibm/led. Can these
commands be run by gnome-power-manager when suspending and waking up?
I discovered /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux.
I can either hack that directly (yuck); however, I see I can also
resurrect my old /etc/acpi/sleep.sh script.
But the way it's set up, if I provide /etc/acpi/sleep.sh, I also have to
know how my system is suspended, which isn't user-friendly. I think it
would be nice to provide pre- and post-suspend hooks instead. Thoughts?
Thanks to an unrelated tip from Stefan Monnier, I installed the
hibernate package, and created a file called
/etc/hibernate/scriptlets.d/local which contains the following. If you
want to use it, replace my initials (BW) with your own since the
hibernate namespace is global.
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# -*- sh -*-
# vim:ft=sh:ts=8:sw=4:noet
# Ideas from /usr/share/hibernate/scriptlets.d/hardware_tweaks.
# ibm_acpi proc directory
BW_IBM_ACPI_PROC=/proc/acpi/ibm
BwIbmAcpiStartSuspend() {
# Turn off Ultrabay LED.
IbmAcpiLed 4 off
return 0 # this shouldn't stop suspending
}
BwIbmAcpiEndResume() {
# Turn on Ultrabay LED.
IbmAcpiLed 4 on
return 0
}
BwIbmAcpiOptions() {
if [ -d $BW_IBM_ACPI_PROC -a -z $BW_IBM_ACPI_HOOKED ]; then
AddSuspendHook 12 BwIbmAcpiStartSuspend
AddResumeHook 12 BwIbmAcpiEndResume
BW_IBM_ACPI_HOOKED=1
fi
return 0
}
BwIbmAcpiOptions
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Re: LEDs, gnome-power-manager, and ThinkPads
Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I gave up on the one size fits all power management utilities for my T23 and went back to my scripts. I did learn enough that I retained the uswsusp package and use its s2disk utility. I also use powernowd and KDE's battery monitor. My script is 100% reliable suspending to RAM while the various other utilities were not. I do think that the T23 is old enough that it doesn't support ACPI all that well even with BIOS updates. So my manual scripts work well with it. Thanks for the feedback. Under APM, I had custom scripts as well (see http://www.newt.com/debian/thinkpad-t40p/), but I find that now under ACPI I'm really close to not having to maintain that stuff myself. Maybe I should submit feature request to the hal package... -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LEDs, gnome-power-manager, and ThinkPads
I'd like to turn the light to the CD-ROM off when I suspend and then back on when I resume. This can be done by calling echo 4 on | /proc/acpi/ibm/led and echo 4 off | /proc/acpi/ibm/led. Can these commands be run by gnome-power-manager when suspending and waking up? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LEDs, gnome-power-manager, and ThinkPads
Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to turn the light to the CD-ROM off when I suspend and then back on when I resume. This can be done by calling echo 4 on | /proc/acpi/ibm/led and echo 4 off | /proc/acpi/ibm/led. Can these commands be run by gnome-power-manager when suspending and waking up? I discovered /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux. I can either hack that directly (yuck); however, I see I can also resurrect my old /etc/acpi/sleep.sh script. But the way it's set up, if I provide /etc/acpi/sleep.sh, I also have to know how my system is suspended, which isn't user-friendly. I think it would be nice to provide pre- and post-suspend hooks instead. Thoughts? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libc6 kernel upgrade problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: Bill Wohler wrote: Robert Jerrard writes: WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version 2.6.8 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it before installing glibc. Does this imply that lenny will not support 2.4 at all? Correct. Linux 2.4 support has been dropped post Etch. Since the kernel for this particular system (a vserver) is not under my control and I don't expect it to be upgraded anytime soon if ever this would be bad. That could be a problem. The calls made by libc will in some cases require a linux 2.6 kernel. Any thoughts on which cases? Taking a quick look, I see that glibc isn't installed on this system either, so maybe I'm OK? In Debian the glibc package name is libc6 or libc6.1 or libc0.1 or possibly other things depending upon the architecture. There are probably many different ways to deduce this but these are useful. dpkg -S /lib/libc.* libc6: /lib/libc.so.6 dpkg -l libc6'*' | grep ^ii [EMAIL PROTECTED]:498]$ dpkg -S /lib/libc.* libc6: /lib/libc.so.6 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:499]$ dpkg -l libc6'*' | grep ^ii ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libc6-dev 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Hea -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libc6 kernel upgrade problem
Robert Jerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version 2.6.8 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it before installing glibc. Does this imply that lenny will not support 2.4 at all? I know that 2.4 isn't recommended under etch, but since I'm not using udev, I was able to get away with the upgrade to from sarge to etch. Since the kernel for this particular system (a vserver) is not under my control and I don't expect it to be upgraded anytime soon if ever this would be bad. Taking a quick look, I see that glibc isn't installed on this system either, so maybe I'm OK? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Announce: DebianArt
André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you test? Please register and put your artworking :D Nice stuff! It would be extremely useful to put a thumbnail of each image(s) next to the description. That way, one can view 10 images on one page without having to click and wait 10 times to do the same thing. This feature will make browsing much easier. Thanks! -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where's /dev/lp0 gone in Etch?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just installed Etch on i386 (previously used Sarge). My printer, on the parallel port, has stopped working. I'm using LPRng with a custom print filter that sends lpd output to /dev/lp0. Unfortunately there is no longer any /dev/lp0, despite parport and parport_pc modules being loaded. Etch now uses udev to dynamically create devices. The device for your printer isn't going to appear until it is powered up and connected. If you printer *is* powered up and connected, then perhaps it is now on a different device. Check /var/log/messages, /usr/share/doc/udev, and the etch release notes for ideas on what that new device might be (or how to troubleshoot). -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why emacs is still 21.4.1 in Etch?
Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2007-04-18 12:00:50 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 12:08 +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: I found version of emacs is still 21.4.1 in Etch. Is there any technical obstacle for emacs's upgrading? AFAIK, that's the most recent stable release of GNU Emacs, That's not true. Emacs 21 was crashing quite often, had lots of bugs and didn't support copy-paste of Unicode characters. When I switched to Emacs 22 (emacs-snapshot), all these problems disappeared. stable release has nothing to do with perceived stability. It merely refers to the last non-developmental release. You might perceive Emacs 22 as stable but it hasn't even been released yet. As it has been noted, if one wants to use an Emacs 22 pre-release version, grab emacs-snapshot from sid. (Emacs 22 looks a whole lot better when configured with --with-gtk than Emacs 21 too ;-) -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs without documentation nonsense
The GFDL is not DFSG-compliant as it specifies invariant parts. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing an i386 OS on an ia64 system
Wackojacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Wohler wrote: Why, why, why, did the Debian developers rename the Linux kernel's designation x86_64 to amd64?!?!?! AFAIK, AMD got there first with 64 bit processors such as the opteron and the amd64. em64t was just an add on to existing p4 processors to take account of the 64 bit instruction set used by AMD. The point is, if the system handles both architectures, the name should be agnostic. I'm not the first one who was confused by the name, and I won't be the last. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing an i386 OS on an ia64 system
Wackojacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hopefully the OP is still reading the thread anyway. ;-). Thanks for all the feedback. So with 64 bit comes a larger address space. I suppose throughput should be faster two, no? Anyway, as it turns out, the proper keyword is amd64. I should install the amd64 installation image and the linux-image-amd64 kernel. Of course! How stupid of me! I have an Intel processor so I should install an amd image. That's so obvious. How silly of me to think that ia64 might have meant Intel Architecture 64. Why, why, why, did the Debian developers rename the Linux kernel's designation x86_64 to amd64?!?!?! -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ia64
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11/10/06 05:55, Michael Fernández M wrote: Hi.. In the company we are thinking to buy a server IBM x3850 with 2 INTEL MP XEON DUAL CORE. But this works in 64 Bits. The web site says... --- Supports high-performance, dual-core 64-bit Intel® Xeon® Processors MP and runs 32- and 64-bit applications simultaneously, providing headroom and investment protection - My Question is: Debian ia64 works with this kind of processors? No. ia64 is Itanium. You want the amd64 kernel. Don't feel bad. I made the same mistake. But the ia64 installation disk wouldn't boot, so I installed the i686 installation. Now I find out that it was the amd64 image I wanted and now I have to reinstall. Frustrating. Why didn't the Debian developers stick with the more correct x86_64 nomenclature that the Linux kernel team uses? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing an i386 OS on an ia64 system
Wackojacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Wohler wrote: I installed the i386 etch distribution on my 64-bit system since the ia64 distribution had been burned on suspect media and wouldn't boot. Are you sure you want ia64. Most 64-bit systems these days use the amd64 port (i.e AMD64 and intel emt64 processors). what have you got. Intel. Some Xeon dual processor thing. Questions: What am I missing out on? Depends on what you are using it for? Compiling and running CPU-intensive programs. Lots of I/O too. What components are actually different between these two systems? The stock kernels, for example, don't seem to be different. Most binaries are recompiled specifically for 64 bit user space. You can run a 64bit enhanced kernel on i386, look for the -k8 linux-images. I see this: Package: linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 (2.6.17+2) Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 K8 machines - transition package This package is for transition only. Why is it in transition? Does it really work on Intel? What tells your system which binaries to grab? The sources.list file doesn't indicate hardware type. The OS knows what its running:) Can I transition my system from i386 binaries to ia64 binaries without starting from scratch? If you mean amd64, no its a completely different OS but you can install in to a separate partition using debootstrap, or an install CD and then dual boot. No, it's an Intel, and dual-booting is not useful. Are you saying I'd have to reinstall the OS to make use of the 64-bit stuff? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: annoying beeping speaker
Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rob Bochan wrote: On Wednesday 08 November 2006 11:13, Nicolas Pillot wrote: Open the box, unplug the speaker. Do it once and for all, even if you reinstall, and will work across all your OSes and apps. Won't a simple unload of the 'pcspkr' module take care of the problem? Yeah, I would blacklist the pcspkr module too. Yes, this method is much more effective than the X-related ones. modprobe -r pcspkr echo blacklist pcspkr /etc/modprobe.d/local -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Logical interfaces and shorewall configuration
I've configured my home network on ath0 and other networks on various logical networks. When I'm up on a logical network (e.g., ath0=foo), I get a lot of Shorewall messages that I don't get on the physical network (e.g., ath0). If I say ifup ath0=foo, avahi-daemon, for example, triggers the following shorewall messages: Sep 11 12:18:27 olgas kernel: Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=ath0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.0.9 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=234 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=11 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=214 If I say ifup ath0, then avahi-daemon does not trigger any messages. I suspect that the logical interface is at issue. The file /etc/shorewall/interfaces contains: net ath0detect dhcp,routefilter,blacklist I tried using a wildcard (e.g., ath+ instead of ath0), but that didn't work. Suggestions? Using Shorewall 3.0.7 in etch. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beta-3 Etch install avoiding commandline?
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still think the installation of a OS (any OS) is not something to do if you don't have some basic knowledge of computers. That's a bug, not a feature. I'd like to see the installation of Debian be as hard as installing your TV: plug in some wires and hit the power button. A wrong answer and you could wipe all your data. The software should (ultimately) prevent that. It's been a while since I installed Debian, but I'd like to see X get launched ASAP (assuming the user isn't using a dumb terminal) so that GUI programs can lead the user through the installation. It would make Debian look a whole lot more professional, and enable more people to use it. The use of aptitude is NOT obvious by looking at it. Synaptic is a lot better in this regard. A GUI installer would also be more usable by appealing to the users' emotions. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get/aptitude update failing [solved]
Nathan Laredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a bug in the 2.6.8 version of rsync. I've installed a patched older release of rsync, and things may improve in the next 24 hours. Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks to me like it worked just fine. The warnings below are spurious but ought to go away in aptitude 0.4.2 since it doesn't try to read in the package lists before an update. Between Nathan's fix and upgrading to aptitude 0.4.2, I no longer get the spurious warnings, nor problems trying to download packages. I was able to pick 0.4.2 from sid easily without any cascading dependencies. Note that Nathan's fix would only affect you if you are using mirrors.kernel.org. It occurs to me that other mirrors might be using the same buggy version of rsync though, so if you're noticing that packages are missing, this might be the reason. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get/aptitude update failing
Enrique Morfin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this is in a amd64 box an in an i386 box, the same problem. Whats going on? Yes, it looks the same. Seems that the repository, or a recent version of apt-get is messed up. Any Debian maintainers who might be able to fix the problem following this thread? I've reported the bug on the mirrors meta-package and aptitude but haven't heard back yet. Could be everyone is one vacation ;-). -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get/aptitude update failing
I went to update my etch system and got lines like this from aptitude update: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mirrors.kernel.org etch/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_etch_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) But, that file exists! [EMAIL PROTECTED]:768]$ l /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_etch_contrib_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 186608 2006-08-09 12:22 /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_etch_contrib_binary-i386_Packages Any idea what is going on? I already tried updating sources.list to point to http.us.debian.org (in case the mirror was suspect), but had the same issues. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get/aptitude update failing
I take it back. I simplified my sources.list to: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free removed all the cached package files in /var/lib/apt/lists, and ran apt-get update. This worked: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:808]$ sudo apt-get update Get: 1 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [189B] Get: 2 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release [62.9kB] Get: 3 http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages [4085kB] Get: 4 http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages [52.1kB] Get: 5 http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages [73.8kB] Fetched 4274kB in 28s (149kB/s) Reading package lists... Done I again removed the package files, and ran aptitude update. This bombed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:812]$ sudo aptitude update Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done Building tag database... Done Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [189B] Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release [62.9kB] Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages [4085kB] Get:4 http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages [52.1kB] Get:5 http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages [73.8kB] Fetched 4274kB in 23s (179kB/s) Reading package lists... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_contrib_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to update the package lists to correct these missing files W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems Guess I should report a bug against aptitude? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get/aptitude update failing
Michael Voggenreiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Wohler schrieb: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) try to put some spaces between the lines and at the end of the file. Then try again to update. You mean, for example, to change: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free to deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free I don't see how that would improve things, and indeed, it didn't. If this isn't what you really meant, can you please provide an example? By the way, if you or any other reader is running etch, can you please run aptitude update, remove all of the cached files in /var/lib/apt/lists, and run aptitude update again? Does it work without error for you? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring Bluetooth
Henrique Rennó [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an Acer Aspire 3002LCI Notebook and I'd like to know how can I start trying to configure the bluetooth device. I don't understand how it works and if someone knows any kind of prior settings I must set before changing configuration files, what packages should I look for in order to install etc. Henrique, My paper[1] on getting the Treo 650 to talk to my ThinkPad T40 running Debian GNU/Linux (etch) might point you in the right direction. 1. http://www.newt.com/debian/treo650.html -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ati's fglrx 8.25.18 and sid
Looking at the description of fglrx-driver, I'm not sure if the FireGL 9000 in my ThinkPad t40p is supported when comparing this: $ lspci|grep -i fire :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] (rev 02) with this: $ apt-cache show fglrx-driver This version of the ATI driver officially supports: * Radeon X300/X550, X600, X700, X800, X850, X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900 * Radeon 8500, 9000, 9100, 9200, 9500, 9550, 9600, 9700, 9800 * Radeon 9100, 9200 IGP * Radeon Xpress 200, 200M * FireGL V3100, V3200, V5000, V5100, V7100 * FireGL 8700, 8800, X1, X2, X3, Z1, T2 * Mobility Radeon X300, X600, X700, X800, X1300, X1400, X1600, X1800 * Mobility Radeon 9000, 9200, 9550, 9600, 9800 * Mobility Radeon 9000, 9100 IGP Series * Mobility FireGL 9100, T2, V5000 I do not see Radeon R250, or FireGL 9000 in the list. However, in my Xorg.0.log, I see: $ less /var/log/Xorg.0.log (--) Chipset ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP) found In this case, Mobility Radeon 9000 *is* in the list. Thoughts? Can't hurt to try, can it? By the way, what is a simple test to see whether 3D acceleration is enabled? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: do you have 3D hw acceleration working? I thought it's not working or VERY experimental in free ati driver Haven't tried. some of my fonts look prety ugly too, how did you figure out what the proper font path is? Whatever was there after dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? Yes. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XMMS can no longer play CDs
David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is actually being reported by other users [1] yet I couldn't get into the Bugzilla as of June 19th., 1845 UTC. I browsed the README [2] however and I found out that the author of the CD Audio Player module says that you need to add the mountpoint to the playlist, as you defined it in the preferences. Thanks for the tip. Actually, I just stumbled across the solution. If I enter /media/cdrom0 in the Play files dialog, XMMS only shows the directories in /media. If, however, I *double-click* on cdrom0, *then* Track 01.cda, etc. show up in the Files list (gee, that's obvious). Then I can click on Add all files in directory and have the songs show up in the playlist. I'll check those bug reports and see if I have anything to add. Thanks again for the feedback. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XMMS can no longer play CDs [solved]
Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 15.06.06 17:40, Bill Wohler wrote: As of the last update or two ago (etch), XMMS no longer plays CDs. It seems that you should add not /dev/cdrom, but the /cdrom/. The cd audio player will substitute /cdrom/ for /dev/cdrom. Actually, it's weirder than that. The XMMS preferences for the CD specify a mount point of /media/cdrom0. If I enter a location of /media and *double-click* the cdrom0 item in the directory list, I get a list of tracks in the file list. These I can select, play, or add to the playlist. I couldn't find any keyboard way to select the cdrom0 item and show the tracks. Now that I'm able to play a CD, I find that XMMS crashes after 2 minutes of play. Oh well. Thanks for the feedback, everyone. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
In case there are still folks out there that like me have xserver-xorg 6.8 on hold because of the reports that X would freeze up if you had an ATI card, I'd like to report that all is well. I share the sentiments that the upgrade was a non-event for such a major upgrade (at least now that the problems exposed with the early reports have been fixed). I went into aptitude, unheld xorg-xserver, hit U, and then g. Although I was expecting to have to apt-get install -f a few times, I didn't have to run it once! I have: IBM ThinkPad t40p ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] (rev 02) Debian etch I haven't seen any strange behavior in a few days now. I believe I read that the ATI fixes were applied to Xorg 7.1, but it appears that the these fixes were also applied to xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.5.8.0-1 which is available to Debian users of Xorg 7.0. My thanks and appreciation go out to the X Strike Force. A couple of notes: 1. glxgears missing The fix was to install mesa-utils. 2. The courier fonts were ugly. The fix was to rebuild xorg.conf (I'm assuming with a proper font path). I did not have to resort to the workaround presented in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367593 3. Many warnings in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. The fix was to rebuild xorg.conf. 4. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg STILL doesn't give you a configuration file. I determined some workarounds: sudo sh -c readlink /etc/X11/X | md5sum /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf sudo vi /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.postinst # Comment out the following line as well as its matching else and endif. # if [ -z $UPGRADE ] || dpkg --compare-versions $2 le 1:7.0.14; then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 5. Touchpad not working The fix was to remove the line Option Device /dev/psaux in Section InputDevice, Identifier Synaptics Touchpad since the driver finds the device on its own (with Protocol auto-dev). -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
Joris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:19 -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: snip sudo sh -c readlink /etc/X11/X | md5sum /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum snip (totally off topic, but a thought maybe worth sharing:) I used to pull similar tricks to redirect output to a file writable only by root. it can be done without spawning a root shell, though: readlink /etc/X11/X | md5sum | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum it has the added bonus of showing what you've just written to the file (unless you tack '/dev/null' to the end of the line, of course). see tee(1) for more info (the append option is handy for replacing '') Another for the Now, why didn't I think of that? category. Nice. Thanks. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XMMS can no longer play CDs
As of the last update or two ago (etch), XMMS no longer plays CDs. XMMS
sends tons of messages like the following to the syslog if I click on
the ^ button, enter /dev/cdrom, and click Play.
kernel: hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
kernel: hdc: command error: error=0x51 { IllegalLengthIndication
LastFailedSense=0x05 }
kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 0
kernel: printk: 26 messages suppressed.
kernel: Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 0
I can use cdplay from the cdtool package to play the CDs.
If I bring up Options Preferences Audio I/O Plugins, select CD Audio
Player, and click on Configure, and then click on Check drive in the
subsequent dialog, I get:
Device /dev/cdrom OK.
Disc has 11 tracks
Total length: 44:19
Digital audio extraction test: OK
Directory /cdrom/ OK.
Should I be entering a new directory or file in the Play files dialog
now? Something like
/media/cdrom/something-or-other-which-doesn't-exist-at-the-moment?
Any other ideas?
Or is this a bug that needs to be reported? I didn't see anything like
it listed already.
[Noticing that XMMS has been updated, Bill updates his system to no avail ...]
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Re: mixing aptitude and synaptic
OK, I have to jump in since there seems to be a lot of misinformation going around. Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is one snag. Aptitude keeps a note of packages that have been installed manually (as opposed to being installed automatically as dependencies). The result is that it assumes that any packages installed using Synaptic were not manually installed. Aptitude sometimes wants to remove a number of your packages because it assumes that they are no longer needed. I think it is the other way round: that aptitude just remembers which packages are automatically installed. You should therefore be able to use synaptic or apt-get to install packages. aptitude won't remove them. The only downside is that aptitude will not remove the dependencies that these other packages have installed automatically. See below. I have a feeling that folks might have selected a new (or old) package which caused dependency cascades to happen and blamed it on apt-get or synaptic. The solution (thanks to Magnus Therning in a previous post) is to run # aptitude unmarkauto --schedule-only '~i' before running Aptitude commands. Wow, this pretty much just ruins one of the great features of aptitude. After running this, aptitude will never remove dependencies that are no longer needed. What would be more useful is to run aptitude markauto on those packages which apt-get and synaptic install automatically as dependencies. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: switching from apt-get to aptitude
mustard lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing thats always confused me with aptitude is how to 'unmark' packages that I have accidently marked when uses the ncurses interface. You can use '-' (or '_') as Raquel suggested. Since this method requires that you look for the dependencies that were also marked, you might prefer C-u (undo), which will also unmark the dependencies. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some Problems with (X)Emacs
Norbert Grün [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GNU Emacs 21.4 has some problems when customising a large number of options, probably there is a hidden limit to the size of the .emacs file. Not in Emacs. Also there is no migration tool for importing GNU Emacs 20.7 .emacs files, Emacs 21.4 complains heavily when importing such a file. No, and such a tool would be nearly impossible to write since you can have arbitrary lisp code in your .emacs. Also, Emacs 22.1 is nearing release. For these reasons, you can forget about getting an Emacs 20.7 to 21.4 migration tool (unless you write it yourself). With the advent of customization in Emacs 21, it might be possible to handle some migration of options (that have been renamed, for example) in the future. If a user is sophisticated enough to write Elisp, it isn't unreasonable to expect that user to read the NEWS file to see what has changed in a particular version. If you have specific bug reports or suggestions, please use the Debian BTS rather than posting here where it is likely to be ignored by the Debian maintainers. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
Žáček Kryštof [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree, but only partially. Agree with what? Top posting makes it really hard to follow a discussion. This proves lack of software quality testing in the Debian release model. Sid isn't released. What part of unstable don't you understand? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list port are listen
Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I personally like `netstat -anput`, which lists numeric addresses and port numbers for all programs listening on TCP or UDP ports, along with the program/PID for each entry. Thanks for the tip! I've always wondered how to display the program. I missed the -p on reading the man page (or it was added since I've read the man page). -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where are GNOME icons?
I'm confused. When I look at /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/stock/navigation/stock_left.png the arrow is blue. However, all the arrows in Galeon, Nautilus, and so on are green. Looking harder: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:718]$ locate stock_left.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/stock/navigation/stock_left.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/stock/navigation/stock_left.png /usr/share/themes/G26/gtk-2.0/stock_left.png /usr/share/themes/Industrial/gtk-2.0/stock_left.png /usr/share/themes/Smooth-Winter/gtk-2.0/stock_left.png All of these are blue too. I think that the green arrows were in GNOME 1 and that the blue arrows are in GNOME 2. Right? Then why do I still have green arrows? I'm using etch with the the Clearlooks theme, as selected by Desktop Preferences Theme. If I then click on Theme Details, I see that I have the Clearlooks Controls and GNOME icons. Given my configuration: 1. What color are the latest GNOME arrows? 2. What directory contains the icons that I'm seeing? Does anyone have a URL for the definitive current default icon set on the gnome.org site? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian X.org 7.0 experimental packages
Michael Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anybody tested [xorg 7.0] on a T43? Heck, I'd be happy to hear reports about any of the T series with the Radeon video chips. I'm holding at 6.8 until I hear some better reports than what we heard with 6.9. Thanks. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Control panel for Debian (was: Webmin themes)
Martynas Brijunas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: after installing webmin on my sarge server, I tried to download and install a few themes for it. Even though the webmin confirms a successful install into /usr/local/share/webmin, none of the newly installed themes appear in the selection drop down list. Please help. I wouldn't worry about it too much since webmin has been deleted in sid/etch. But seriously, going forward, is anyone working on a control panel for Debian? Like webmin, such a tool would gather together all of the system administration tasks in a flexible, pluggable, way. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Control panel for Debian
Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Webmin, however, still supports Debian. The reason it is being removed from the repository is because it moves so fast that it gets out of date very quickly. You can always still install it from upstream, without too much trouble. Bill: Hey mom, Roberto said that you can just install webmin from upstream so you can configure your printer. Mom: That's nice dear. Thanks. Mom: What's upstream? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the best java development and vm ?
I use the Sun stuff. I also create dummy Debian java packages per the Debian Java FAQ (use Google to find it). A couple of years ago, Eclipse was better than NetBeans--mostly in the refactoring arena--and so Eclipse is what I use now. I don't know how NetBeans stacks up against NetBeans now. There are Eclipse packages in unstable. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mixing SSI and PHP
I was able to use PHP in my existing legacy HTML files with the following: AddType application/x-httpd-php .html Next step was to be able to use PHP in my existing .shtml files as well. However, when I added the following AddType application/x-httpd-php .html .shtml my browser no longer saw text/html but saw application/x-httpd-php, didn't understand it, and wanted to save it instead of show it. Is it possible to mix both SSI and PHP in a .shtml file? If so, do you have any configuration suggestions? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mixing SSI and PHP
David Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/6/06, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to mix both SSI and PHP in a .shtml file? If so, do you have any configuration suggestions? I've tried various Apache configuration options and have not been able to get this to work. Some searching suggests that the only way to do it is by creating SSI pages that include PHP: !--include virtual=foo.php-- It's too bad there isn't a way to tell PHP to try and parse SSI. Heh. Thanks, David. A bit more searching seemed to tell me the same thing. On the pages where I was adding PHP, I ended up converting the SSI code to PHP, replacing the .shtml suffix with .html (I use AddType application/x-httpd-php .html), and letting mod_speling sort it out. In my case, it turned out to be a pretty good solution. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
René Seindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Wohler wrote (18-01-2006 22:04): Michael Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Kevin! I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. That depends what side you visit. If there is a java applet or a flash animation inside you need more CPU. Yes, I think you'll find that Flash is the culprit. Since Flash is used for gratuitous, annoying animation most of the time, you can remove the flashplugin-nonfree package. Or install the flashblock extension to firefox. It replaces flash elements with a button, and the flash content only plays if you click the button. Oooo, that's nice! Has anyone tried this with Galeon? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
Michael Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Kevin! I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. That depends what side you visit. If there is a java applet or a flash animation inside you need more CPU. Yes, I think you'll find that Flash is the culprit. Simply find the page running Flash (on my system, the cursor turns into a hand with a cuff and the right mouse button brings up a Flash context menu), and remove it. Since Flash is used for gratuitous, annoying animation most of the time, you can remove the flashplugin-nonfree package. Or, just in case someone sends you a cool JibJab video, you can turn off Flash temporarily with the following command: # mv /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so \ /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so- -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with xserver-xorg_6.9.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb with ATI X700
Halestino Pimentel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, After updating the packages and upgrading my system, xserver-xorg upgraded to version 6.9. After that I couldn't start X anymore. I know that downgrading to xserver-xorg_6.8.2.dfsg.1-11_i386.deb solves the problem, but since packages.debian is down for a few days, I can't get the xserver-xorg_6.8.2.dfsg.1-11_i386.deb package to have X working again. So, I have two questions: 1) Is there another way to get the package/solve the problem using the ATI driver? Doesn't apt-get install xserver-xorg=6.8.2 work for you? You might have to fiddle with the version number string or even the preferences file. See the man page for apt_preferences for a downgrading example. Otherwise, you can download the right package from your mirror. For example: http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/x/xorg-x11/ 2) What can I do to prevent similar problems in the future (breaking the normal system behaviour after upgrades)? 1. Run stable. 2. Follow the relevant mailing lists/newsgroups and don't upgrade when there's a problem, or put a hold on the affected packages (see the man page for the package manager you use), or edit your apt preferences file to avoid upgrading a certain package. This has been discussed for weeks on gmane.linux.debian.user.laptop. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Solved: Etch is not installable
Heinrich Rebehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Heinrich Rebehn wrote: Heinrich Rebehn wrote: Hi list, I tried installing etch today, but the installation of the base system fails to install initrd-tools, lilo and grub, thus leaving the system unbootable. The package installation fails with The following packages cannot be authenticated i also tried using different mirrors, but to no avail. What can i do? Thanks for any help, Heinrich In the install system, hacked /bin/apt-install to invoke apt-get with --force-yes Heinrich, This: APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated true; in /etc/apt/apt.conf wouldn't do the same thing? H This may well be, i did not know about that. At installation time i would expact this to work out of the box. Thanks for the hint anyway, will use it for future installations :-) Actually, you would NOT want to use that setting in general. It protects against compromised repositories. Joey Hess had the following to say today: From: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Package Signatures Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:51:18 -0500 Lukas Ruf wrote: - how do the power users of Debian react in such situations? Do you continue with the apt-get upgrade or do you skip it? That really depends on the machine to some extent. The message you quoted could occur if someone has compromised the mirror and is trying to provide trojaned packages, so if I care about the security of the machine I don't do anything until I've checked whether I can trust the key. If it's some one-off or unimportant machine, I might say y and assume that if it's a real compromise someone else will notice it and a large stink will eventually be raised about the security breach. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs settings in sid gnome 2-10
Antonio Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ls: /etc/X11/rgb.txt: No such file or directory This is bad (as you've noticed). [EMAIL PROTECTED]:863]$ dpkg --search /etc/X11/rgb.txt x11-common: /etc/X11/rgb.txt Rather than simply finding this file, it might be preferable to reinstall the affected package which should fix it and maybe fix some other botched files as well. apt-get install --reinstall x11-common -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Printer read errors
Out of the blue, my printer (HP OfficeJet G85) stopped working. It was working fine last week, but today when I powered it up and sent some print jobs, the printer LCD showed Printing..., the printer printed a line or two, and then hung. The following was spewing from the log file: Oct 25 13:27:50 olgas kernel: drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: nonzero read/write bulk status received: -84 Oct 25 13:27:50 olgas kernel: drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: error -84 reading from printer Would you suspect my laptop, the cable, or the printer? I use CUPS and hpoj and Debian etch. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found
Anyone know what this message is all about? This began to appear after a recent upgrade whenever I mount a USB drive. Oct 25 16:34:21 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found, skip event 'mount' -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 26, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know what this message is all about? This began to appear after a recent upgrade whenever I mount a USB drive. Oct 25 16:34:21 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found, skip event 'mount' Kernel brokeness? Is some other user space application sending bogus events to the netlink socket (is this even possible?)? Which kernel version are you using? I have never seen anything like this, nor I have ever heard of mount hotplug events. But if udev gets broken messages there is nothing it can do about it. I'm running etch (with a handful of sid), the linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 package, version 2.6.12-10. Unfortunately, I don't grok what you're saying above. Here is more context. Mount is 2.12p-8. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:518]$ mount /media/usb0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:520]$ tail -4 $syslog Oct 25 17:22:51 olgas kernel: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds Oct 25 17:22:51 olgas kernel: EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal Oct 25 17:22:51 olgas kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Oct 25 17:22:51 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found, skip event 'mount' If this is bug, in which package would you recommend that I report it? Let me know if there is anything more I can do to help with debugging. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOo2.0 space concern
kamaraju kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark Grieveson wrote: 300 MB of space would have been fine. However, before the install, I had over 10 (ten) GBs of space left on my 40 GB drive. Afterward, I was down to 1 (one) GB left; so, something went wrong somewhere. Is there a way to list files by filesize? A program, or command similar to ls that lists files, but sorts them in order of filesize? This way I could attempt to track what is causing this excessive usage of space. I believe the actual working install of OpenOffice.org is not, in and of itself, the culprit (I'm guessing that uninstalling it via synaptic would only free up a bit over 200 MB -- I'm basing this guess upon viewing the listed created debs in synaptic, and marking them for removal to see what synaptic would report). As always, all suggestion/comments appreciated. --Mark To sort files in the order of the size use du --max-depth=1 -m / | sort -g xdiskusage and filelight are nice GUIs for viewing your disk usage. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is bug, in which package would you recommend that I report it? linux-2.6 would be a good start, unless the HAL maintainer has better ideas about this. Thanks, will do. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is bug, in which package would you recommend that I report it? linux-2.6 would be a good start, unless the HAL maintainer has better ideas about this. Oh yeah, would you say the same about the following warnings? Oct 25 15:42:10 olgas udev[9919]: main: action, subsystem or devpath missing Oct 25 15:42:10 olgas udev[9962]: main: action, subsystem or devpath missing I started getting these at the same time as the other message (with a recent 2.6.12 maintainer upgrade). These messages appear when I pop in a USB wireless mouse/keyboard unit. Or would this be a bone fide udev bug? Interestingly, these messages mention udev while the others mention udevd. What does that mean? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Oct 26, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know what this message is all about? This began to appear after a recent upgrade whenever I mount a USB drive. Oct 25 16:34:21 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found, skip event 'mount' Kernel brokeness? Is some other user space application sending I also get it, I will try to help tracking it down. Kernel Debian 2.6.13-1 (from experimental, which is 2.6.13.3) + 2.6.3.4 diff. Thanks. Evidently, this was not fixed in 2.6.13. I have never seen anything like this, nor I have ever heard of mount hotplug events. But if udev gets broken messages there is nothing it can do about it. I see it on mounts caused by automount. I don't see it on mounts caused by mount. So, we have one possible culprit. Bill, are you also using automount? Nope. I'm not using automount for any mounts on this particular laptop. I'm using entries from /etc/fstab, such as this: /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 autouser,noauto 0 0 p.s. I've added a bug report and cc'd [EMAIL PROTECTED] to this message in case this discussion helps the linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 package maintainer -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev trouble: no /dev/sd* devices
Cameron Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 04:30:59PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: George McNinch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gm On the third, I now have no /dev/sd* at all (no /dev/sda1 gm e.g.) modprobe sd_mod fixed the problem. Please share how. I believed he inserted the 'sd_mod' module OK. The formatting got me. I thought the modprobe sd_mod was part of the non-working example. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev trouble: no /dev/sd* devices
George McNinch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gm On the third, I now have no /dev/sd* at all (no /dev/sda1 gm e.g.) modprobe sd_mod fixed the problem. Please share how. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to do with all the doc files in /usr/share/doc?
Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:22:11PM -0500, Adam Porter wrote: Bill Wohler wrote: Try: aptitude install dwww and read the doc files from your browser. This does appear to do some indexing on the man pages, but I don't think it does a full-text indexing of the other files. Actually, I think it does. If you install swift++ and do a search in dwww for registered docs, it will search just about everything. I can't find swift++ in the debian package repository. Where is it available? I think Adam meant swish++. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to do with all the doc files in /usr/share/doc?
Jim Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For years now, I've been seeing the vast quantities of files in that directory and other than going in and zmoreing them, I haven't figured out how to read them. By now I'm sure someone has developed a browser or other means of indexing them, searching them and displaying them. I just can't figure out what it is. Try: export LESSCLOSE='/usr/bin/lessfile %s %s' export LESSOPEN='/usr/bin/lessfile %s' If you use Emacs, try: M-x customize-option RET auto-compression-mode RET and toggle this option on. Try: aptitude install dwww and read the doc files from your browser. This does appear to do some indexing on the man pages, but I don't think it does a full-text indexing of the other files. If you hear of a tool that does, let us know. I suppose you could let Google spider it ;-) and use site:yourhost in a Google search. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: treo 600 as a modem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How to use treo 600 as a modem.(gprs) Now it's working good with KPilot,I've got modules usbserial,visor I have it working on the Treo 650 over Bluetooth. I documented what I did on: http://www.newt.com/debian/treo650.html I suspect that you should be able substitute the Bluetooth device with your USB/serial device in the scripts in the Configure DUN to Put Your Laptop on the Net section. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: announcing the beginning of security support for testing
s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch-proposed-updates/security-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch-proposed-updates/security-updates main contrib non-free Joey, These entries are quite different from your announcement. Can you comment on them? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.Org Hits Testing
Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did the upgrade, had to select xserver-xorg manually, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, answered the questions based on what was in my XF86Config file, ran startx and it all worked! The fonts looked horrid so I copied the debconf lines into xorg,conf and reconfigured fontconfig to restore the anti-alias capability. Everthing now looks and works the same as before. Very seamless and almost a non-event for such a major system upgrade. Agreed. I actually did a dist-upgrade from sarge to etch and actually got a lot of sid as well including 2.6.12 (I mistakenly brought in gcc-4.0 in order to keep festival from being removed). I did have to run aptitude dist-upgrade and apt-get install -f a few times until the smoke cleared. For some reason, /etc/init.d/cupsys was turned into some data file. An apt-get --reinstall cupsys fixed that. I haven't yet tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg since everything worked and looked fine after the upgrade (other than the missing custom Gnome menus that I mentioned in another email). I was wondering if things were all right for the upgrade and crossed my fingers. If you're considering the jump, I'd say go for it. Kudos to the Debian maintainers who made it so. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
udev complaints during /etc/init.d/hotplug start
After yesterdays etch/2.6.12 upgrade, I am now seeing this when running /etc/init.d/hotplug start: udev[1172]: main: action, subsystem or devpath missing udev[1173]: main: action, subsystem or devpath missing Any thoughts? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: announcing the beginning of security support for testing
You may get the following error message and not know what it means: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://secure-testing.debian.net etch/security-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/secure-testing.debian.net_debian-secure-testing_dists_etch_security-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) ... W: You may want to update the package lists to correct these missing files W: GPG error: http://secure-testing.debian.net etch/security-updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 946AA6E18722E71E W: You may want to update the package lists to correct these missing files I didn't, but fortunately, I stumbled on an unrelated README this morning and learned what was missing: apt-key. Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The archive signing key that is used to sign the apt repository is included below and can also be downloaded from http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ziyi-2005-7.asc Since the use of apt-key is something that users do rarely if at all, a reminder of what to do with that information would be welcome. And that is: 1. Save the above key into a file, say, /tmp/debian.key. 2. Load the key with: sudo apt-key add /tmp/debian.key -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Editing Gnome menus in gnome 2.10
Rats, it's happened again. An upgrade clobbered my custom Gnome menus and there's no visible way to add them back in. Nautilus no longer has a location bar where you can enter applications:///. Searching the list shows that editing menus has gone away in gnome 2.10. When is this ability expected to be resurrected? That same message indicated that menu items can be added to ~/.local/share/applications. I managed to recreate some menu items by following the examples in /usr/share/applications, but I couldn't figure out how to create sub-menus. Any HOWTOs there? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newsgroups for Debian
antgel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scott Schreiber wrote: Marc Wilson wrote: No and yes (mostly). But the gateway used to be one-way, where what you posted in the ng didn't go back to the ML. I have no idea if that's still the case. It is. It isn't. Posted via gmane.linux.debian.user. If you got this via the mailing list, that should answer your question. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aptitude synaptic gnome to be removed?
Jules Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (2) If you're an aptitude user: Make sure your system up-to-date with 'aptitude update aptitude upgrade'. Then, as an unprivileged user, run 'aptitude' and press the 'g' key and see if it wants to do install and/or remove anything. Don't continue if you don't like the result; aptitude won't continue without the root password anyway. I think this implies that the aptitude UI performs an implicit dist-upgrade. [later...] Confirmed. I just ran aptitude dist-upgrade and nothing changed. So, one answer to my original question--which was how you know when you have to use dist-upgrade--is to use the aptitude UI consistently. When packages need to be added or removed, they appear in the commit screen. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aptitude synaptic gnome to be removed?
Jules Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'apt-get upgrade' is restricted (and therefore safer) in that: under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or packages not already installed retrieved and installed. This isn't sufficient for 'unstable', as both of the package-state changes above are required regularly. RTFM (release notes, actually) tells me that I should use dist-upgrade when switching distros, but RTFM (that I could find) does not tell me when to use dist-upgrade when not switching distros. How does one know when to use dist-upgrade? Is there an announcement email somewhere? Does aptitude give some sort of a sign (that I'm missing)? Is this something that you just run regularly? If this is something you run regularly on unstable, then I suppose one should also run it regularly on testing. Right? In that case, I should probably run it on my testing systems, eh? Since I had never run dist-upgrade during the entire sarge lifecycle, this should be interesting... Thanks. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
