Re: new motherboard now Autorepeat of keys even when not pressed down
Dear Mitchell, Mitchell Laks wrote: I recently upgraded my motherboard to an asus M4A77TD motherboard with a new CPU. dd As a starting point, you could try to switch to one of the pseudoterminals (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and check whether it also happens there. If it does, try to boot from a live CD and check there – if it also happens there, it might well be some hardware issue. If it doesn’t, we know that it’s a software problem. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131208213215.7f91b...@chubig.net
Re: block a program from access the Internet.
Dear atar, atar wrote: Just wanted to know please if there's a way to block a specific program from accessing the Internet while preserving at the same time the ability of other programs to access the Internet, and if there's a way, so how? AppArmor and SELinux likely have such features, however, they may be difficult to configure. If it is just a single program, the simplest way is probably to run it only as a special user and then use iptables’ --uid-owner option in the owner extension to block outgoing traffic from this user. Remember to also block IPv6 traffic using ip6tables if you have a working IPv6 connection. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130909102844.3d838...@ares.m.archwiz.org
Re: how to run xterm with nested bash shells, or screen nested inside bash
Dear Zenaan, Zenaan Harkness wrote: From an existing plain xterm, I want this command: uxterm -e /bin/bash -c /usr/bin/screen or eg: uxterm -e /bin/bash -c /bin/sh To result in a nested shell. Basically I want my xterms to open by default with a screen session (which works fine), but I want to be able to log out of screen with CTRL-D, and be left with plain bash in my uxterm. Is this possible? I’m not quite sure I understood what you want to achieve, but here we go: I tried with xfce4-terminal, but that should mostly behave the same as uxterm. Essentially, there are two problems to solve here: a) xfce4-terminal -e /bin/bash -c /usr/bin/mc is read as the -c option by the terminal, not the shell. We need $ xfce4-terminal -e /bin/bash -c /usr/bin/mc to pass -c to bash rather than xfce4-terminal. b) Furthermore, bash appears to have no option not to exit after the command passed via -c exits. However: $ xfce4-terminal -e /bin/bash -c \/usr/bin/mc /bin/sh\ runs /bin/sh after /usr/bin/mc exits sucessfully (use ; instead of to ignore return codes). HTH Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130831195250.38084...@ares.m.archwiz.org
Re: How to create an m3u playlist containing mp3 and m4a files?
Dear Sharon, Sharon Kimble wrote: how can I create a .m3u playlist file with .mp3 and .m4a files in it please? I tried this but the end-result is non-playable 'ls -w 1 *.m4a *.mp3 ~/.mpd/playlists/beeb-radio.m3u' . It lists all the files with the correct extensions but when I try to load it in MPD, it says that the song is non-playable. This is only a guess: ls -w 1 *.m4a *.mp3 will only print the actual filename, not the full path to the file. However, MPD playlists have the following format: $ cat /var/lib/mpd2/playlists/Dvorak\:\ 8.\ Symphonie.m3u antonín_dvořák/dvorak__sym8__1__allegro_con_brio.ogg antonín_dvořák/dvorak__sym8__2__adagio.ogg antonín_dvořák/dvorak__sym8__3__allegretto_grazioso.ogg antonín_dvořák/dvorak__sym8__4__allegro_ma_non_troppo.ogg where the folder antonín_dvořák exists in the music root directory of MPD: $ grep ^music_directory /etc/mpd2.conf music_directory /datapub/media/audio $ ls -d /datapub/media/audio/antonín_dvořák/ /datapub/media/audio/antonín_dvořák// So depending on the music root configured for your instance of MPD, you will need to adapt the filepaths accordingly. (Ignore the 2 in mpd2, I have two instances configured on my computer. It should be just mpd for you :)) Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: How to create an m3u playlist containing mp3 and m4a files?
Dear Sharon, Sharon Kimble wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:40:35 +0200 Claudius Hubig debian_1...@chubig.net wrote: This is only a guess: ls -w 1 *.m4a *.mp3 will only print the actual filename, not the full path to the file. However, MPD playlists have the following format: $ cat /var/lib/mpd2/playlists/Dvorak\:\ 8.\ Symphonie.m3u antonín_dvořák/dvorak__sym8__1__allegro_con_brio.ogg antonín_dvořák/dvorak__sym8__2__adagio.ogg antonín_dvořák/dvorak__sym8__3__allegretto_grazioso.ogg antonín_dvořák/dvorak__sym8__4__allegro_ma_non_troppo.ogg where the folder antonín_dvořák exists in the music root directory of MPD: $ grep ^music_directory /etc/mpd2.conf music_directory /datapub/media/audio $ ls -d /datapub/media/audio/antonín_dvořák/ /datapub/media/audio/antonín_dvořák// music_directory /home/boudiccas/Music target directory /home/boudiccas/Music/beeb-radio and when I ran 'ls -w 1 *.m4a *.mp3 ~/.mpd/playlists/beeb-radio.m3u' from the target directory it creates 'beeb-radio.m3u' but it is non-playable. When I try to play it from mpd there is zero sound, although others play okay with mpd, and says 'No such song' What does ~/.mpd/playlists/beeb-radio.m3u look like (cat ~/.mpd/playlists/beeb-radio.m3u)? From what I understand, it should have the following form for MPD to successfully find the files: beeb-radio/yoursongone.mp3 beeb-radio/yoursongtwo.m4a whereas it likely looks like that: yoursongone.mp3 yoursongtwo.m4a Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: How to create an m3u playlist containing mp3 and m4a files?
Dear Sharon,
Sharon Kimble wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:46:57 +0200
Claudius Hubig debian_1...@chubig.net wrote:
Sharon Kimble wrote:
music_directory /home/boudiccas/Music
target directory /home/boudiccas/Music/beeb-radio
and when I ran 'ls -w 1 *.m4a *.mp3
~/.mpd/playlists/beeb-radio.m3u' from the target directory it
creates 'beeb-radio.m3u' but it is non-playable.
But how do I get it to show the file path please? I've
googled for it, read that xmms can create the foobar.m3u that I'm
after. But wont know if xmms2 can do the same until tomorrow morning.
$ cd /home/boudiccas/Music
$ ls -1 beeb-radio/*.{mp3,m4a} ~/.mpd/playlists/beeb-radio.m3u
should do the trick.
Best,
Claudius
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Re: Setting locales on Debian
Dear Fred, Fred White wrote: I have to following errors -bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_GB.utf8) locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory C POSIX Normally, this would be a case of # dpkg-reconfigure locales However, rc locales 2.11.3-4 Embedded GNU C Library: […] indicates that for some reason, locales is not installed on your computer (rc means removed, but configuration files left). Try to install it (apt-get install locales) and then configure it to your wishes. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130806011529.27ce2...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Wheezy upgrade - php5-suhosin missing?
Dear David, David Guntner wrote: Anyone know why it was removed, and if/when it will be restored? the functionality of Suhosin was merged into core PHP, hence it is not ‘needed’ anymore and was removed. I doubt that it will be restored. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130804030719.3e76e...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: notification of resume
Dear Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: How would a script know that the system has just been resumed from hibernation? assuming that you use the pm-utils to hibernate/thaw your system, you can use /etc/pm/sleep.d: /etc/pm/sleep.d, /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d Programs in these directories (called hooks) are combined and executed in C sort order before suspend and hibernate with as argument 'suspend' or 'hibernate'. Afterwards they are called in reverse order with argument 'resume' and 'thaw' respectively. If both directories contain a similar named file, the one in /etc/pm/sleep.d will get preference. It is possible to disable a hook in the distribution directory by putting a non-executable file in /etc/pm/sleep.d, or by adding it to the HOOK_BLACKLIST configuration variable. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130802184509.241b6...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: ssh user@ipv6 address, connect: Network is unreachable
Dear basti, basti wrote: ssh: connect to host ipv6_address port 22: Network is unreachable if ipv6_address is not in your local network, you will either need a tunnel or connectivity from your ISP to get IPv6. So this: my ISP offers only ipv4, can this be the error ? is indeed the problem. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130723225727.2babe...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Remove file resulting from ls|tail -1
Dear Oscar, what a surprising name… OECT T wrote: I need to delete the file resulting from: ls | tail -1 In Bash, $(command) is replaced with the output of command. For example, $ touch $(seq 1 4) will create files 1, 2, 3 and 4. So you likely want something like $ rm -i $(ls | tail -1) where the -i is for interactive mode (rm will ask you) and the quotation marks are such that this is treated as a single argument rather than many different ones. Note that you might also want to think of passing ls -1 and and possibly sort before taking the tail. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130719211535.19687...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: build-essential question
Dear Πρεκατές, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote: first contains (dpkg-dev,gcc,make,libc) and another one with a longer list with smaller utilities like (bash,coreutils,grep,gzip,...) . But the build- essential package depends on package mentiononed only in the first list. So how will the second list be enforced? APT/dpkg knows the ‘Essential’ flag which forces the package to be present on the system. If you want to remove an essential package, you’ll meet this prompt: # apt-get remove bash […] You are about to do something potentially harmful. To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' ?] ^C hence it is generally not necessary to depend on such packages[0]. Best, Claudius [0] cf. the second sentence in the fourth paragraph of section 3.8 of the Debian Policy at http://www.debian.org/doc//debian-policy/ch-binary.html#s3.8 -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130704234957.39363...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Using equivs to override task-desktop dependency on xserver-xorg-video-all
Dear Andrei, dear Regid, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 02 iun 13, 03:45:05, Regid Ichira wrote: $ aptitude show task-desktop | grep -A1 Depends Depends: tasksel, xorg, xserver-xorg-video-all, xserver-xorg-input-all, desktop-base, menu Is craeting an equivs xserver-xorg-video-all package feasible, and most simple solution? No. Set the packages you want to keep as manually installed. In aptitude interactive mode you can press 'm' or '+' if you are already in the overview window. That depends. If Regid wants to keep the rest of task-desktop except for these particular drivers, and get appropriate upgrades if a new version of Debian is released, then I would say that using equivs is indeed the simplest solution. Regid, could you comment on the goal you want to achieve with this? [ Remark in case you didn’t notice: Purging xserver-xorg-video-all does not per se require removing all these packages. It’s just that it requires removing the task-desktop meta package, which in turn pulled in all the other packages (and marked them as automatically installed). APT then noticed that nothing required these automatic- ally installed packages any longer and offered to remove them to save space. ] Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: speller dictionary for claws-mail.
Dear Sthu,
Sthu Deus wrote:
I miss some package that i can not identify, please help me.
When i start to write a letter in claws-mail, it says:
What's the package that contains the dictionary that claws-mail uses?
$ dpkg-query -W -f '${Recommends}\n' claws-mail | grep -o '[a-z-]*spell[a-z-]*'
aspell-en
aspell-dictionary
Claws-Mail uses aspell, so by installing aspell-cs, you should get
what you want :)
Best,
Claudius
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Re: Psi+ GTalk over Tor
Dear Alex, Alex Dubinin wrote: In Psi+ has two profile XMPP servers: google talk and my server. When using Psi+ with a direct connection to the internet - both profiles are working fine. If connect through a local Tor server (lotsalhost: 9050) - google talk not working, no error messages, my XMPP server (on the remote machine) - works with no problems. What do you mean by ‘no error messages’? Surely there at least must be something like ‘Connection timed out’ or ‘Connection refused’? My first guess would be that GTalk blocks connection attempts from the Tor network. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: can one rely on uname -i results?
Dear Vladimir, Vladimir Budnev wrote: While trying some opensource utility I'v found that one of launching scripts uses uname -i | grep x86_64 to check for 64/32 bit platform and futher processing. -i is for the ‘hardware platform’. You likely rather want to use ‘-m’, which gives the ‘machine hardware name’. While the naming appears a little strange, the former is probably intended to give the actual hardware architecture, whereas the latter gives the kernel architecture. An i386 kernel running on an amd64 CPU would hence give out ‘i386’ (or something like that) when queried via -m, whereas ‘-i’, if available, would have to say ‘x86_64’ – which doesn’t help at all, since the kernel couldn’t run such code. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130525113456.7b00e...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: No date in uname -a anymore
Dear Markus, Markus Schönhaber wrote: ~# uname -a Linux wheezy 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux ~# ls -l /boot/vm* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2833376 May 15 23:58 /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 ~# There is no date in the uname output anymore, which I could compare to the kernel image file's timestamp. You are now supposed to compare the Debian package version reported by uname (3.2.41-2 in the example above) against the one currently installed (e.g. using dpkg -l). /proc/version still reports the build time for me, though. doesn't sound convincing to me. As an administrator, I couldn't care less what source was used to build the kernel package installed. As the source package used to build the kernel uniquely identifies the kernel, you should only care about the source package version? Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130519134126.46c7a...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: No date in uname -a anymore
Dear Markus, Markus Schönhaber wrote: Thanks for your answer, Claudius! Welcome :) 19.05.2013 14:41, Claudius Hubig: You are now supposed to compare the Debian package version reported by uname (3.2.41-2 in the example above) against the one currently installed (e.g. using dpkg -l). OK, that is a way. To me, this seems to be a very awkward way, though. It doesn’t break if you move files around, and at least to me comparing version numbers is per se more reasonable than comparing build dates, but YMMV, of course. /proc/version still reports the build time for me, though. Alas, for me it doesn't. Strange. I am running a self-compiled 3.7 as follows: $ cat /proc/version Linux version 3.7.1.a2017.3 (root@ares) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-4) ) #3 SMP Sun Jan 13 16:24:52 GMT 2013 Maybe there is an option somewhere in the kernel compile-time configuration? I could well live with it if the oh-so-important source package version was *added* to uname's output instead of being put in the place of the info I really *do* care for. But as it is, someone has made a change that gains me nothing but makes my life a tiny bit harder. If I recall correctly, there is some length-limit imposed on this string (for whatever reason), so merely adding it was not an option. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130519160707.47bd0...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: b2evolution
Dear john, john wrote: I notice that the blogging package b2evolution is no longer in the repositories. Anyone know why? [1] indicates that it was removed in May 2012 since it was rc-buggy and unmaintained [2]. Bug #578924 [3] likely had something to do with that. Best, Claudius [1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/b2evolution.html [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672782 [3] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=578924 -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130518140306.3ab55...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: apt-get upgraded kernel, zero bytes download?
Dear Jochen, Jochen Spieker wrote: Joel Rees: (My system speaks to me in Japanese, so the messages below are my translations.) You can prefix commands with something like 'LANGUAGE=en' in order to change the language temporarily: # LANGUAGE=de apt-get update LANGUAGE=C is probably the better choice here, as it is ‘built-in’, i.e. doesn’t require the corresponding locales to be available and is the usual standard with which you will find the best search results. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Warnings when doing a chroot.
Dear mind, mind entropy wrote: I am on ubuntu 13.04 Wrong distro and/or mailing list, but, well. and I get warnings when I do a wheezy schroot. I do a sudo schroot -u root -c wheezy Are you running this command inside /srv/chroot on the host system? If so, I would guess that schroot tries to cd to the corresponding directory in the chroot. W: Failed to change to directory ‘/srv/chroot’: No such file or directory I: The directory does not exist inside the chroot. Use the --directory option to run the command in a different directory. W: Falling back to directory ‘/root’ Failing that, it then puts you in root’s home directory, which is certainly fine, too. Are there some configs to be be post debootstrap to make things work fine? As advised in the I: line, you could try using the --directory option on the command line (which is not the same as the directory= directive in schroot.conf!) to select a different working directory inside the chroot. From the schroot man page: -d, --directory=directory Change to directory inside the chroot before running the command or login shell. If directory is not available, schroot will exit with an error status. The default behaviour is as follows (all directory paths are inside the chroot). A login shell is run in the current working directory. If this is not available, it will try $HOME (when --preserve-environment is used), then the user's home directory, and / inside the chroot in turn. A command is always run in the current working directory inside the chroot. If none of the directories are available, schroot will exit with an error status. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130511163020.7d58f...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Warnings when doing a chroot.
Dear Robert, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 04:30:20PM +0100, Claudius Hubig wrote: mind entropy wrote: I am on ubuntu 13.04 Wrong distro and/or mailing list, but, well. a sudo schroot -u root -c wheezy explain how, assuming he's running ubuntu, a command containing wheezy would work? His host system appears to be Ubuntu and he set up a Wheezy (s)chroot. This is somewhat analogous to virtualising Wheezy inside a Ubuntu host, using, for example, VirtualBox or VMWare. You can of course run a Wheezy VBox on Ubuntu. Since the problem lies not really in the system installed inside the chroot but within (s)chroot (a program running on the host), which tries to effect a cd to a specific directory, it is probably better to ask on the Ubuntu lists. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: can someone replicate this cut and paste bug?
Dear songbird, what a wonderful name that is. songbird wrote: i can verify that in the Times New Roman font i'm using in Libreoffice that when i paste a µ into it that it does work correctly, but when i hit return at the end of the line it translates the initial µ into a capital M. this happens on the first line on the page only. after that line the µ's work correctly. Note that the capital mu is rendered the same way as a capital m, so I don’t think the two problems are linked. What you are observing here is likely simply some form of auto correct capitalising the start of the line. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130430122109.7c92a...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Problem with xz on very small system
Dear David, David Goodenough wrote: I have a PcEngines WRAP board, which has 64MB of memory and a CF disk. Unpacking replacement traceroute ... dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing archive member: lzma error: Cannot allocate memory dpkg-deb: error: subprocess decompress returned error exit status 2 Any ideas? If nothing else helps, you could try to use a temporary swap file. While not perfect for the lifetime of the CF card and probably horribly slow, it’s better than nothing. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130412150547.66e04...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: restarting perl?
Dear Bonno, Bonno Bloksma wrote: perl-base: 2098/usr/bin/perl Try # ps 2098 to see the command line arguments and identify the process. So it seems perl may be using the old lib file(s) still. This started after the previous update I did about a week ago. I had hoped it would resolve itself as munin starts perl several times a day I thought something would trigger it. *Some* process using perl is still using the old libraries. It is a somewhat irky bug in checkrestart to only show the binary and not also its command line arguments. For example, I have the following process running at the moment: 18023 ?Sl 7:22 /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/calibre i.e. calibre, which is programmed in Python and hence run by the Python executable. checkrestart would only show 18023 /usr/bin/python2.7, leaving me to guess whether that is calibre or some other Python-interpreted process. It is key to understand that there can be multiple Perl/Python processes running at the same time, using different versions of the installed libraries depending on when they were started. Best, Claudius PS: Please consider breaking your lines at 72 characters, unless they’re copy-pasted verbatim from command-line output. -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130403082345.38518...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Question about output from 'df'.
Dear Christian, Christian Dysthe wrote: UUID=fbcdccf4-f329-4656-8ac2-7cff4c158404 /boot ext4 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0 UUID=37de7813-0f65-41dd-b4ae-55912e454d0f / ext4 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 1 UUID=4f2719cd-5e8b-4440-85d9-80db2a7e528a /home ext4 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0 /dev/disk/by-uuid/3… 10896648 5101224 5235248 50% / /dev/sda5 769760 44844 684980 7% /boot /dev/sda7 599139368 344433792 224264420 61% /home Why is /dev/sda6 indicated as 'dev/disk/by-uuid' and the other two simply as /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda7? I can not remember that there has been a difference between the three in the df output before. Likely because the busybox-mount in the initramfs during initial boot does not dereference the symlink, whereas the later /sbin/mount in the fully booted system does. This is then reflected in the content of /proc/mounts, which is read by df. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130329201053.25f14...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Nicer way to manage installed build dependencies?
Dear Florian, Florian Ernst wrote: There is mk-build-deps in the package devscripts, and there once was sourcedeps.debian.net (now dysfunctional) which allowed to have a sources.list for Build-Depends-metapackages created using mk-build-deps. I don't know when and why the latter service was discontinued, so that doesn't help much for now, though ... Ah, mk-build-deps is actually exactly what I wanted. $ mk-build-deps -A pidgin creates a small package depending on the Build-Depends of pidgin. This also works without sourcedeps.debian.net, so it is still fully functional. Thank you very much! Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130318085601.43437...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Nicer way to manage installed build dependencies?
Dear Roger, Roger Leigh wrote: If you build things on a regular basis, install schroot and sbuild, and configure schroot to use snapshot chroots. This will give you the same setup used on the buildds. You can create snapshots from .tar.gz|bz2|xz (file), LVM LVs (lvm-snapshot) or Btrfs subvolumes (btrfs-snapshot), or use writable overlays (aufs/unionfs). This gives you speed (the snapshots can be deleted almost instantaneously), and safety (everything is built in a pristine clean temporary chroot environment). Thanks for the suggestion, though such a setup is probably a little bit too heavy given my rather casual building and the constrained environment of my notebook. I will definitely look into it again should I ever manage to sensibly contribute to FOSS. Best regards thank you very much for your work on Debian, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130318190740.4fb37...@ares.home.chubig.net
Nicer way to manage installed build dependencies?
Dear all, due to a long-standing annoyance in freeciv-client-gtk[0], I wanted to rebuild this package locally and noticed that there still seems to be no way to nicely manage what # apt-get build-dep freeciv-client-gtk pulls in - it just installs the required packages and then leaves me with them. This is obviously fine if I use a fresh chroot for every new build, but is there really no way to either a) mark such packages as installed automatically in some way that doesn’t instantly remove them again or b) remove all build dependencies of a given package that are not required by others? I know of deborphan etc., but they are usually rather cumbersome to use (you have to iterate manually etc.). Are there any obvious other ways to solve this problem? I managed to put together a small shell script[1] that creates a dummy/meta package, but I’d really prefer something ‘official’. Best, Claudius [0] The lower limit of gold loss in the city management interface is -20 (or 20, depending on how you look at it), which is too low if you really don’t care how much gold this particular city wastes, cf. #659644 and http://gna.org/bugs/?16184 . [1] http://git.chubig.net/misc.git/history/master:/buildbuilddep -- Please don’t CC me. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: NEEDED: not quite current buisnesscard and netinst iso images
Dear Richard, Richard Owlett wrote: Tom Grace wrote: On 11/03/13 11:39, Richard Owlett wrote: Pointer please. TIA You could have a poke about at http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/ Thanks for the quick reply, but that's where I started ; From there, you can get to http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/6.0.5/i386/jigdo-cd/ And following the instructions on http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ (as http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/ explains you that these are only kept in Jigdo format), you need to download http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/6.0.5/i386/jigdo-cd/debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.template http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/6.0.5/i386/jigdo-cd/debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.jigdo and install jigdo-files. Then calling # jigdo-lite debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.gz should download and build an appropriate ISO image (I just tested it, it does work :)). Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130311123249.2c439...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: NEEDED: not quite current buisnesscard and netinst iso images
Dear Bob, Bob Proulx wrote: That is the archive. You want the current images. jigdo-lite --noask http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.7/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-6.0.7-amd64-netinst.jigdo Richard specifically asked for version 6.0.5[0], which is _not_ the current version. Best, Claudius [0] Though I still don’t quite get his reason for this, but, well. -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130311184755.37d01...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: How to display the reason for a revocation in GPG?
Dear all, Claudius Hubig wrote: is there any option to display the revocation reason for a given key in GPG? The following abomination does this quite well: $ gpg --export DEADBEEF | gpg --list-packets | grep -Pzao ':signature packet:.*\n\t.*sigclass 0x20(\n\t.*)*' with a sample output of, for example :signature packet: algo 1, keyid DEADBEEFDEADBEEF version 4, created 1361391004, md5len 0, sigclass 0x20 digest algo 8, begin of digest ef ce hashed subpkt 2 len 4 (sig created 2013-02-20) hashed subpkt 26 len 21 (policy: http://example.net/policy) hashed subpkt 29 len 23 (revocation reason 0x01 (I felt funny and wanted to revoke this key)) subpkt 16 len 8 (issuer key ID DEADBEEFDEADBEEF) data: [4093 bits] The binary values in subpacket 29 are documented in Section 5.2.3.23 of RFC 4880. Thanks to a certain Christopher Head for the hint to --export and --list-packets. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130305141728.443c5...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Debian on 256MB PIII TabletPC
Dear Steven, Steven Grunza wrote: Hello. I would like to install Debian on a laptop with 256 MB of RAM. Is this possible? Installing the system shouldn’t be a problem. I realize this system is _NOT_ going to be a performance machine. I plan on using it for text editing (in laptop mode using keyboard) and taking handwritten notes (in slate mode) However, I don’t know whether the tablet will work. If Ubuntu had problems, chances are that Debian (and in fact, any Linux) has the same problems. I know Fedora (at least version 17 and 18) has checks in place to prevent installation on low memory systems. Does Debian have a similar restriction? Yes. Last time I tried, it complained with less than 96 MB and switched to a special mode at less than 64 MB, though that was 2-3 years ago, IIRC. 256 MB should be perfectly fine. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304145850.65a6a...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Converting a running system to a VirtualBox VM
Dear Marc, Marc Shapiro wrote: It runs fine on Squeeze using IA32-libs. There does not seem to be a native 64-bit version for linux. I decided I would install Wheezy, activate multi-arch for i386 and install the 32-bit version. It was a good plan, except that it does not work. The Citrix Receiver apparently requires nspluginwrapper, which is not available in Wheezy because it depends on ia32-libs and so does not play nicely with multi-arch. Really? At least for me, apt-get install nspluginwrapper appeared positive that I could install it, although it would pull in fifty trillions (65 MB) of extra i386 libraries. 1) Stick with Squeeze indefinitely Meh. So, does anyone know of a way to convert my current system to a Virtualbox VM? Or would it be better to just create a new machine and install from scratch? Getting Citrix Receiver running properly always seems to be a hassle, so I thought that converting my current system might be easier. Any suggestions? Do you have a possibility to boot into another system, so that you don’t have to run VirtualBox on the system you want to clone? If so, you can either tell VirtualBox to use the partition of your current system as a physical disk, or you could boot the VM from some live CD, partition it properly and then simply rsync -avH your system over. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130303114038.4a956...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Latest sid upgrade breaks hot-key suspend-to-ram on T410
Dear Joel, Joel Roth wrote: The latest upgrade has broken hot-key suspend-to-ram (invoked by Fn-F4). I find that s2ram *does* work, as well as hibernate. Cool. Does pm-suspend (a wrapper that does some funky things before calling s2ram) work, too? Any idea against which package I should file a bug? At least here (T410s), Fn-F4 generates an ACPI event that is then handled by an appropriate file in /etc/acpi/events, which in turn calls some script to do the actual suspending. If you have a similarly ‘bare’ setup without other daemons (gnome-power-manager etc.), you might want to check there. Otherwise, you can check /var/log/apt/history.log to see which packages were upgraded last or at least give us some more information - Which desktop environment? Are any power managers running? If so, which? Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130303193841.467ce...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: moving /var
Dear Maroš, Maroš Žilka wrote: [root@server ~]# mkdir /new_var [root@server ~]# mount /dev/sdb1 /new_var [root@server ~]# cp -vrp /var/* /new_var/ [root@server ~]# mv /var /old_var [root@server ~]# mkdir /var [root@server ~]# mount --bind /new_var/ /var and what is really bothering me most is that cp command, wouldn't it possibly create inconsistency ? What would be better way to do it ? Is it even possible to do such change on running system without worries to lose some data ? Yes - if someone writes to /var after the file was copied, this change will be lost. You can make the window where such a change would be lost smaller by running rsync twice: # rsync -av /var/* /new_var # rsync -av /var/* /new_var where the second command should only take a few seconds (rather than very long, if, for example, /var/www is large). It might furthermore be helpful to remound /var read-only before the procedure and shut down as many services as possible – if nothing writes to /var, no data will be lost :) Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130301084955.662d1...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux - SOLVED
Dear Lisi, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 11:00:36 Brian wrote: You could do but try getting ia32-libs-gtk before you go down that route. Brilliant! Thank you, Brian (et al of course). I now have a functioning Adobe Reader, and can see and use the form. Just for the record: For Squeeze, install the ia32-libs* and then dpkg --force-architecture the Adobe Reader .deb :-) Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130228122049.64b39...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: tar - unresponsive machine
Dear Vincent, Vincent Lefevre wrote: the whole machine becomes unresponsive, e.g. several dozens of seconds to do some operation (e.g. starting an xterm, or making Firefox react)? Depending on the IO priority of the tar command (probably higher if run as root, check with ionice) and the disk access scheduler (cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler), this may vary wildly. But especially if you are using a spinning hard drive (rather than a SSD) and the needed libraries are not yet loaded, it doesn’t appear implausible for xterm to take a few seconds to show up. If you have swap and Firefox was swapped out, swapping it back in might also take some time, although it _should_ be responsive afterwards. IOW, some more information on your setup (disk type, output of free -m etc) might be helpful. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130228163923.08a9c...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Problems with apt-get
Dear Steven, Steven Grunza wrote: Err http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/debian/ squeeze/main libpoppler5 powerpc 0.12.4-1.2+squeeze1 404 Not found E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? ^^ Did you try that? If so, what does your /etc/apt/sources.list contain? Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130227174937.704b0...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux
Dear Lisi, Lisi Reisz wrote: There has, I know, been quite a lot about 32 bit on 64 bit systems recently. But I am not clear where I should start with this one. Are you on Squeeze or Wheezy? For Squeeze, install the ia32-libs* and then dpkg --force-architecture the Adobe Reader .deb, for Wheezy, follow the same instructions as for Skype, i.e. # dpkg --add-architecture i386 # apt-get update # dpkg -i adobereaderfile.deb # apt-get install -f # # or, if that only wants to remove Adobe Reader # apt-get install dependency of Adobe Reader:i386 Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130227185906.092e6...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Cost of packages in disk space?
Dear Jon,
Jon Dowland wrote:
For simple per-package results, dpigs from debian-goodies gives you what you
want (and is little more than a one-liner similar to what was posted by
another
to this thread, internally.)
Am I doing something wrong or does this not take into account
dependencies? Compare:
# dpkg-query -W -f='${Installed-Size} ${binary:Package}\n' | sort -n | tail -n
20 | tac
399871 texlive-fonts-extra
181047 adobereader-enu
150815 libreoffice-core
98439 chromium
88962 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
88150 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64
80526 linux-source-3.7
80298 libwine
80141 inkscape
58870 tesseract-ocr-eng
58179 emacs23-common
55892 libwireshark2
54671 libgcj12
52719 cm-super
51402 libreoffice-common
50800 texlive-pictures-doc
50691 cuneiform-common
47190 debian-keyring
44436 opera
43427 lmodern
# dpigs -n 20
399871 texlive-fonts-extra
181047 adobereader-enu
150815 libreoffice-core
98439 chromium
88962 libgl1-mesa-dri
88150 libgl1-mesa-dri
80526 linux-source-3.7
80298 libwine
80141 inkscape
58870 tesseract-ocr-eng
58179 emacs23-common
55892 libwireshark2
54671 libgcj12
52719 cm-super
51402 libreoffice-common
50800 texlive-pictures-doc
50691 cuneiform-common
47190 debian-keyring
44436 opera
43427 lmodern
Sure, -H of dpigs is nice, but it appears to do even less than ‘my’
little n-liner (not to mention that it apparently can’t handle
multi-arch).
Best,
Claudius
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Re: Cost of packages in disk space?
Dear Alois,
Alois Mahdal wrote:
* Do we want to count dependencies? How deep (we don't want
to count libc* 1 times, do we)?
Possible, but might be difficult.
* Do we want to separately address
* `purge`able ~/.app-data?
* /etc/app/settings?
* /var/logs/app?
bleachbit can do some of that.
* Or are we looking for more sophisticated advice like hey,
do you know that libhuge is required only by this
hardlyeverused-app? (think about upgrade costs, dude!)
Usage is only available with popcon or so.
However, are there tools that attempt to provide this kind of
help? Or at least answer the partial questions? Or can
apt*/dpkg do this?
A first start might be
$ dpkg-query -W -f='${Installed-Size} ${binary:Package}\n' | sort -n
Then, you can create a little abomination as follows:
$ for i in $(dpkg-query -W -f='${Installed-Size} ${binary:Package}\n' | sort -n
| tail -n 50 | cut -d -f 2); do
if [ $( dpkg-query -W -f='${Status} ${binary:Package}\n' $(apt-cache
rdepends ${i}) 2/dev/null | grep ^install | wc -l) -le 1 ]; then
printf %s\n ${i};
fi;
done
which can probably be greatly improved. Nevertheless, it prints leaf
packages with large installed sizes, for example, on my system:
tesseract-ocr-fra
libwine-gecko-1.4
mysql-server-5.5
skype
linux-headers-3.7.1.a2017.2
linux-headers-3.7.1.a2017.3
opera
inkscape
linux-source-3.7
adobereader-enu
Of course, it is not quite where you want to be, but it might be a
start?
Best,
Claudius
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How to display the reason for a revocation in GPG?
Dear all, is there any option to display the revocation reason for a given key in GPG? As you may know, GPG asks for a ‘reason’ when generating a revocation certificate (compromised, superseded etc.) and furthermore allows for a free-form comment to be submitted. Is there any way to display this reason comment, given a revoked public key? Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130222144748.5a5c7...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Can't execute binary?
Dear Tony, Tony van der Hoff wrote: tony@tony-dlt:~$ /usr/local/firefox/firefox bash: /usr/local/firefox/firefox: cannot execute binary file Well, WTF, as they say. Does anyone know of a change that causes this? A little bit more verbosity might help: $ mount $ file /usr/local/firefox/firefox $ stat -L /usr/local/firefox/firefox $ id Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130221112939.61b50...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: XFCE application shortcuts
Dear Lucio, Lucio Crusca wrote: however when I open Settings Keyboard Application shortcuts and click Add +, the friendly GUI does not let me enter any shortcut. I'm able to enter the command 'amixer set Master 5%+', but above the command text field, beside the Shortcut text, there's nothing to click or anything suggesting a way to enter the shortcut, just gray dialog background. If I try confirming the command without a shortcut it obviously complains with a error dialog (though the fact it's complaining is only deducible because there's no ok button, only cancel under a recap of an empty shortcut and the command I entered). It doesn’t complain, it waits for you to press the keys you want as a shortcut :) Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130211121527.7fbb1...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation
Dear Stephen, please do not post HTML to the list[1]. Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am using Oracle VirtualBox (v 4.2.6 r82870) as a testbed for Wheezy Testing before upgrading my production linux computer. The software is installed on my 64 bit Dell Inspiron laptop with 8 GB of RAM running MS Win 7 Professional as the primary OS. With a couple of exceptions that I attribute to a less than complete understanding of the VirtualBox environment, Wheezy is performing well. Are you running Wheezy _inside_ VirtualBox with Windows 7 as the host OS, or is this a dual-boot system? If the latter, wheezy should easily detect 8 GB and use them. In case of the former, you probably only allocated 4.7 GB to Wheezy in the VirtualBox configuration, hence the ‘computer’ Wheezy runs on only has 4.7 GB. Best, Claudius [1] as by #9 in the Code of Conduct for Debian mailing lists, http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130203163330.0fe02...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: testing openvpn virtually on debian host
Dear Umarzuki, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: please suggest me a virtualization software to help me practice configuring openvpn VirtualBox[1] will do fine and has a nice and pleasant user interface. I fear it won’t fix your Shift key, though. Best, Claudius [1] https://www.virtualbox.org/, also available in the Debian archives -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130131122926.14f3f...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Steam on Debian
Dear Mark,
Mark Allums wrote:
Is there any (un)official Debian Steam client? Has anyone (but me) gotten
the native Steam client running well in Debian?
I am running it in an Ubuntu 12.04 schroot (set up with debootstrap),
which has the nice side-effect that I can use whatever X drivers I
want without fiddling with my otherwise Wheezy system.
Since I usually use a self-compiled kernel, I'm currently running
3.7. Granted, the startup process is a little tricky:
- start the chroot:
schroot -c ubuntu-1204
- start X inside the chroot:
startxfce4 -- :1 vt08
- plug keyboard and mouse back in so that they are recognised by
Ubuntus X.org
- start Steam
So far, this works nicely.
Pros:
- use the latest version of X fully supported Ubuntu
- be able to separate Steam from the rest of the system: When I first
tried to install it, it left a rather messy mud of libraries and
configuration files all over my $HOME.
- Switch easily between a full-screen game and my other X server
(CM-{7,8}).
Cons:
- Setup was not exactly straightforward, though that might have been
due to me learning how to use debootstrap, Ubuntu and schroot
on-the-fly.
- Needs a full Ubuntu installation:
4,3G/datapub/ubuntu_1204
- As noted above, I didn't get the second X to recognise my input
devices on startup.
If you are interested in specific details, feel free to ask, but I'd
rather not type down a complete guide now.
Best,
Claudius
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Re: Moving from Debian Wheezy - 32bit to 64bit
Hey, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 22 ian 13, 09:00:21, Sam Martin wrote: Just go choose the Manual Partitioning if you don't trust the installer. Is the best way of doing this to unplug the drives on raid vol and reinstall 64bit dist? If you want to be absolutely sure, just do this. You can still have fat fingers in the ‘Manual Partitioning’ :) I'm just starting with software RAID myself, but as far as I can tell it should just work. Make sure to actually install mdadm on the 64bit system, as it is not necessarily pulled in from what I can tell. You might then want to configure the drives in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf (have a look at your current one), but you shouldn’t encounter any serious problems. Also, will all my /etc/configs work ok with their 64bit counterparts? Since configurations files are just text it doesn't matter. Don’t blindly copy everything from your old /etc to the new one, but there is no harm in copying select directories (you mentioned samba, ftp etc.). After all, some files in /etc are not ‘just text’ or at least architecture-dependant (e.g. ld.so.cache). One other possibility would be to experiment with a cross-grade. While possible (I did it myself a few years back), I wouldn’t suggest trying if you a) are worried about your data, b) possibly don’t have a good backup or c) are new to Linux, as so much can go wrong (missing libc is _fun_). It might be easier with multi-arch nowadays, but reinstallation should still be the easiest way. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130123081525.19304...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Tomboy Notes alternative?
Dear Richard, Richard Owlett wrote: I started exploring Tomboy Notes for a writing project I'm starting. The most attractive feature was the ability to high lite a word or phrase causing it to be come the title of a new note. Most probably not what you want, but in case anybody looks at this thread later: org-mode[1] can do everything you want and integrates nicely into Emacs :) Best, Claudius [1] http://orgmode.org/ -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130121183248.366b9...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: kernel not found
Dear darkestkhan, darkestkhan wrote: The i386 arch name is quite misleading, because to best of my knowledge everything is compiled for (at least) i486, and if I'm correct your CPU is actually i386. I’d be rather surprised if the K6 was an 386 CPU, given that the Am5x86 (two generations before the K6, also by AMD) was already a 486. Best, Claudius -- Please don’t CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130106202253.06f65...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: lightdm login screen minor issue
Hello cr...@gtek.biz, what a wonderful name :) cr...@gtek.biz wrote: At the login screen, there are two buttons in the top right-hand corner, one for switching hi-contrast and large fonts on or off, and the other for restarting or shutting the system down. That power button has no functionality to it. When I click on it, a blank panel opens and there is nothing to click on. I am at a loss trying to figure out what drives that missing functionality. Can anyone give me a nudge in the right direction? What packages related to lightdm do you have installed? To check, try something like # dpkg -l lightdm* Do you have upower installed? lightdm suggests it, and it appears to be related to system-wide power management. Again, try # dpkg -l upower to see if/what is installed. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130101113932.0135f...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: lightdm login screen minor issue
Hello cr...@gtek.biz, cr...@gtek.biz wrote: ii lightdm 1.2.2-4i386 simple display manager ii lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.1.6-2i386 simple display manager (GTK+ greeter) ii upower 0.9.17-1 i386 abstraction for power management That looks ok, yes. You might have mis-configured ConsoleKit/PolicyKit in such a way that it doesn’t allow unauthenticated users (i.e. the login screen) to shut down the system. However, I have no idea how to fix that :) Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130101130858.463a9...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: adobe reader + multiarch
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: root@SDB03:/etc/apt# apt-get update Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main Sources/DiffIndex Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main i386 Packages Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex Try adding sid to the sources.list, then try again to install the packages. APT::Default-Release wheezy; will help you stay on testing as much as possible. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012122549.65be0...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: adobe reader + multiarch
Hello Mark, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: Of course replace the mirror example I gave with the exact mirror repository he needs to use. But the point is the [arch=arch,arch] bit. This is generally not necessary, unless you want to _restrict_ the architectures for which APT checks on this mirror, i.e. if you want to cross-compile armel, hence add it as a foreign architecture, but don’t want apt-get to check http://deb.opera.com/opera/ on every update for an armel package. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121225111352.4e9e9...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: adobe reader + multiarch
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: Did that and the result is the same(below). One thing I noticed is that adobereader-enu depends on libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.4), which does not exist anywhere, it varies between 2.20.1-2.24.13, but there is no 2.4. 2.20 2.4, so that’s not a problem. What happens if you put Sid in your sources.list, set the default release to Wheezy and then try to install all these packages at once? Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121225141814.549d0...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: adobe reader + multiarch
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: adobereader-enu depends on libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.4). root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:386 ^i386 You want either # apt-get install -f or # apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121224210012.51775...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: adobe reader + multiarch
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: Claudius Hubig wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:386 ^i386 # apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 I did that and I got: No you did not. You wrote :386 rather than :i386, as pointed out above. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121224213932.454b3...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: adobe reader + multiarch
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: Claudius, unfortunately it did not: Hm, no idea what is broken then. For the record, I have these i386 packages installed as direct dependencies of libgtk2.0-0 (plus two architecture:all packages that definitely shouldn't be the problem either): libatk1.0-0:i386 2.4.0-2 libc6:i386 2.13-37 libcairo2:i386 1.12.2-2 libcomerr2:i386 1.42.5-1 libcups2:i3861.5.3-2.4 libfontconfig1:i386 2.9.0-7.1 libfreetype6:i3862.4.9-1 libgcrypt11:i386 1.5.0-3 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 2.26.1-1 libglib2.0-0:i3862.33.12+really2.32.4-3 libgnutls26:i386 2.12.20-2 libgssapi-krb5-2:i3861.10.1+dfsg-3 libk5crypto3:i3861.10.1+dfsg-3 libkrb5-3:i386 1.10.1+dfsg-3 libpango1.0-0:i386 1.30.0-1 libx11-6:i3862:1.5.0-1 libxcomposite1:i386 1:0.4.3-2 libxcursor1:i386 1:1.1.13-1 libxdamage1:i386 1:1.1.3-2 libxext6:i3862:1.3.1-2 libxfixes3:i386 1:5.0-4 libxi6:i386 2:1.6.1-1 libxinerama1:i3862:1.1.2-1 libxrandr2:i386 2:1.3.2-2 libxrender1:i386 1:0.9.7-1 zlib1g:i386 1:1.2.7.dfsg-13 But all of these are definitely available in Wheezy, at least according to rmadison. Do you have any third-party packages installed which might mess things up? Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121225001524.22b87...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Are all files produced by GPL Ghostscript copyrighted by 'Artifex Software, Inc.'?
Hello Vaibhav, Vaibhav Niku vaibhav_n...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello all pdf2ps, which is a frontend to gs, inserts a copyright notice in all PS files it produces. I am using `GPL Ghostscript 8.71 (2010-02-10)'. Files look like this: %!PS-Adobe-3.0 ... %%Creator: GPL Ghostscript 871 (pswrite) ... %%BeginProlog % This copyright applies to everything between here and the %%EndProlog: % Copyright (C) 2010 Artifex Software, Inc. All rights reserved. %%BeginResource: procset GS_pswrite_2_0_1001 1.001 0 ... %%EndProlog ... %%EOF This only claims copyright to the prolog (sort of like a header), which is created by Ghostscript itself. As the header, which is introduced in these files to make them valid, had to be written by someone, naturally someone has the copyright to said header, even if it is put into your files. Note that in some jurisdictions, not even such a notice is necessary in order to hold the copyright, nor does removing the notice help with anything (apart from copyright infringement). Furthermore note that even though Artifex Software holds the copyright to parts of this file, it may well allow you to do whatever you want with your files. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121222134859.5439a...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Are all files produced by GPL Ghostscript copyrighted by 'Artifex Software, Inc.'?
Hello Vaibhav, please fix your mail client. It currently breaks threading (no In-Reply-To: or References: header), CC’s people for no good reason (I am subscribed to the list and do not wish to receive off-list copies, cf. [1]) and doesn’t break lines sensibly (at about 80 characters). Vaibhav Niku vaibhav_n...@yahoo.com wrote: I am not convinced that the notice is harmless. At any rate, since the GS code is released as GPL, I am well within my rights to alter it as I suggested. (But, IANAL.) Sure. And if someone later wants to find out what exactly they are allowed to do with that GS code or wish to obtain a different license for it (e.g. to use in a closed-source programme) they will have to jump through loops to find out who actually holds the copyright to the PS prolog to contact them and ask for a different license. You will find that what I said is a standard procedure in dealing with issues like these. It is not copyright infringement -- removing the copyright notice from the produced PS code will be copyright infringement, however. If the prolog is copyrighted, it will still be copyrighted even if you remove the generation of the copyright header. Of course you could remove the code that generates said copyrighted prolog, but you will find the resulting .ps file to be unhelpful. Firefox is free software and you are free to modify it, either before or after you install it. I chose to modify it before I installed it. I modified it by removing the EULA. So there is no EULA, no agreement between me and the Mozilla Corporation, no contract. Just the free software. Thank you for the free software. The Mozilla foundation granted him the rights as set out in the license, and only these allow him to use the software. Last time I checked, this EULA was simply a reiteration of the license (i.e. Mozilla Public License) and some hints at the trademark rules, which also apply regardless of whether someone clicks „I agree“. Best regards, Claudius 1] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121222163545.018ef...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Are all files produced by GPL Ghostscript copyrighted by 'Artifex Software, Inc.'?
Hello Vaibhav, Vaibhav Niku vaibhav_n...@yahoo.com wrote: And 'Artifax Software, Inc' grants me the rights as set out in the GPL. GPL allows me to make any modifications I see fit, and _use_ the resulting software. I may choose to remove the lines which insert the copyright notice in all PS files. Sure, but this doesn’t change the fact that the prolog (which is really just pre-written Postscript code) is still copyrighted by Artifax Software. It is probably comparable to how Microsoft owns the copyright to all the code that makes a .doc an actual .doc and not just a .txt, i.e. the structure of the contents, the way things are specified etc. CC: You are right of course. But this is what the bug webpage suggests. Check the ‘Reply to:’ at the bottom of the link below. It puts the sender in ‘To:’ and the list in ‘CC:’. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/12/msg00934.html I offers me three choices: debian-user@l.d.o, Claudius Hubig (on-list) Claudius Hubig (off-list). The first one (which should be the default) only sends the mail to d-u@l.d.o, which is the correct behaviour and also sets the In-Reply-To: header. Line break: corrected. Thanks :) Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121223032435.508f5...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Skype and Multiarch
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: AFAIK installation of skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb on Wheezy with multiarch is also impossible because some of the i386 libraries are of different versions: 0 14:56 0 ares: ~ # dpkg --print-architecture amd64 0 14:56 0 ares: ~ # dpkg --print-foreign-architectures i386 0 14:56 0 ares: ~ # dpkg -l skype | tail -n 1 ii skype 4.1.0.20-1 i386 Wherever you are, wherever they are package-0:i386 1.2.49-1 cannot be configured because libpng12-0:amd64 is at a different version (1.2.49-3) 0 14:56 0 ares: ~ # dpkg -l libpng12-0 | tail -n 2 ii libpng12-0:amd64 1.2.49-1 amd64PNG library - runtime ii libpng12-0:i386 1.2.49-1 i386 PNG library - runtime 0 14:56 0 ares: ~ # rmadison libpng12-0 libpng12-0 | 1.2.44-1+squeeze4 | squeeze-security | amd64, armel, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc libpng12-0 | 1.2.44-1+squeeze4 | squeeze | amd64, armel, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc libpng12-0 | 1.2.49-1 | wheezy | amd64, armel, armhf, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, s390x, sparc libpng12-0 | 1.2.49-3 | sid | amd64, armel, armhf, hurd-i386, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, s390x, sparc Perfectly possible for me. You will have to provide more details if you insist on ‘impossible’ :-) Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121218145844.3186e...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: google-earth + multiarch
Hello Johan, Johan Grönqvist johan.gronqv...@gmail.com wrote: I also tried and failed installing lsb-core:i386. lsb-core depends on a bunch of packages providing binaries, like python and make, and, as far as I know, multiarch does not allow co-installation of binaries, but only libraries. You could build a lsb-core:i386 package with equivs, ideally depending on the libraries the actual package also depends on, but leaving out the programs. Alternatively, just install said libraries manually (using apt-get libpam0g:i386, for example) and completely leave out the dependencies in the fake lsb-core:i386 package. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121218150352.43a12...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Skype and Multiarch
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -i skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb Selecting previously unselected package skype. dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype: skype depends on libqtgui4 (= 4:4.8.0); however: Package libqtgui4 is not installed. skype depends on libqtwebkit4 (= 2.1.0~2011week13); however: Package libqtwebkit4:i386 is not installed. Try installing these manually (apt-get install libqtgui4:i386 libqtwebkit4:i386) and possibly downgrade your version of libpng12-0 to the wheezy one (apt-get install libpng12-0:i386=1.2.49-1). Best regards, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121218164049.2090f...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: [SOLVED]Skype and Multiarch
Hello Hugo, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: There are a bunch of libraries that are at sid's level. I may have to reinstall wheezy: definitely an error on my part! You can usually try to downgrade packages, especially due to the freeze this shouldn’t be a problem (albeit not officially supported). Is it worth it to update the wiki that Skype *does* install? (I am not a skype user :-) ) I don’t see where it says that Skype doesn’t install :-) But the section on the ‘traditional way’ for amd64 is outdated, I will remove/update it when I find the time. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121218195922.5d7d8...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: which version of debian to download
Hello Daniel, Daniel culser1...@gmail.com wrote: Which version of debian is compatable with i3 or i5 processors systems ? You probably want the amd64 version. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121218200043.3c0f0...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
Hello Andrei, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: $ dpkg-deb -I debs/skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb Architecture: i386 Depends: libasound2 (= 1.0.16), libc6 (= 2.3.6-6~), libc6 (= 2.7), libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1), libqt4-dbus (= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-network (= 4:4.8.0), libqt4-xml (= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (= 4:4.8.0), libqtwebkit4 (= 2.1.0~2011week13), libstdc++6 (= 4.6), libx11-6, libxext6, libxss1, libxv1, libssl1.0.0 Previously, Skype offered this i386 package and an amd64 package that was really the same but with Architecture:amd64 and a dependency on ia32-libs*. As far as I can tell this is a plain i386 packages. Besides (haven't read the multiarch specification), I don't think applications need any conversion. One just needs to activate the proper architecture(s) and then let the package managers do their job. Exactly. And Skype stopped putting out fake amd64 packages and decided to use multi-arch to support the amd64 users, the result of which is the above ‘multi-arch’ package. This doesn’t mean that the package is co-installable with itself or something like that. Best, Claudius -- CRSid cfh36 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
Hello Hans, Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: 1. I can add i386 to the sources list. This will keep and update ia32-libs and keep my 32-bit apps - but it will install al lot of new (unnecessary) libs, which I do not need and I do not want to install. It is sure, I do not need them, as the 32-bit applications are running perfectly as described above. Exactly. ia32-libs is superseeded by multi-arch, the ia32-libs package you can upgrade to (version 1:0.4) is actually empty and is only there to pull in the i386 packages. I do not want to fill my system, with unnecessary libs (keep it simple stupid) This is a simple change in packaging. Chances are that you can afterwards deinstall ia32-libs (unless you have crappy third-party software explicitly depending on it) and even remove libraries you were previously forced to keep (as part of the old ia32-libs package) but don’t actually need. IMO this is a dependency problem. My suggestions for a solution: 1. Change the dependencies of ia-32-libs, that they do not depend i386-repo. 2. No amd64 package should depend on a package of i386-repo. This will mean that users don’t see a clear migration path from amd64 + ia32-libs to amd64 + multi-arch and that there is no way to ensure that all libraries previously contained in ia32-libs are installed after the migration to multi-arch. IMO this would solve a lot of problems and people can decide, if they want to use multiarch or not. At the moment, it looks for me, as people are forced to use multiarch, if they want to use any 32-bit application. If you don’t want to use multi-arch, stay with Squeeze. But this technically not necessary ( as described above) and it is against freedom of choice. As said before, you actually have more choice with multi-arch than without. To reiterate: Current Squeeze: - ia32-libs:amd64 contains library X, library Y and library Z in the i386 format - i386 packages with Architecture:amd64 (such as skype:amd64) can be installed, depend on ia32-libs and use these libraries. Current Wheezy: - i386 packages can be directly installed as Architecture:i386 and directly depend on X:i386 etc. as needed - ia32-libs:amd64 is empty and depends on X:i386, Y:i386, Z:i386 to ensure that if you upgrade from Squeeze, all libraries previously found on your system as part of the ia32-libs package are installed, furthermore, packages still depend on ia32-libs of Architecture:amd64 continue to work. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121208120231.255f8...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
Hello Hans, Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Ok, I understood. But last question: Does debian make sure, that I get rid from the old 32-bit libs included in the old ia32-libs package or do I have to search them manually, to get a clean system, without double 32-bit libs? If a package is updated, only the files from the new version are left on the system (modulo configuration files and data files created by the programm (such as configuration in your ~). These do not apply here, however). So, no, you don’t have to search for these libs manually, thanks to a decent package manager also known as APT :) Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121208130710.545eb...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
Hello Hans-J., Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: But when I switch to multiarch, and add i386 (dpkg --add-architecture i386), and want to make an upgrade, then debian wants to install a lot(!) of new libs from i386. Why that? WTF? New libs? They are not needed (as everything is working well), and I do not want to fill my system with unnecessary stuff! Never! Have a look at the contents of ia32-libs-*. The ‘new’ libraries APT wants to install already exist on your system, just in one ugly enormous package that has to be downloaded in full each time one of the libraries it contains changes. You also don’t get to choose which of the libraries in ia32-libs-* you actually need. Chances are that multi-arch will actually relieve you of a lot of unnecessary stuff. On the other hand, if I do NOT change to multiarch, debian wants to deinstall skype, googleearth, ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk, although they are working perfectly. There IS no reason, to deinstall them. Yes there is, ia32-libs-* are superseded by multi-arch and no longer maintained/updated. Skype works perfectly with multi-arch here, I did not test google earth late, though. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121207181555.6463b...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
Hello Hans-J., please don’t CC me as I read the list. Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Ok, but if they are reinstalled, then the old libs should be deinstalled. But they will not. So I have some libs double on my system. Last time you complained that ia32-libs was being deinstalled, now you don’t want it to be deinstalled? To make it clear: You do need two versions of some libs (such as libc6), one for amd64 and one for i386. Previously, ia32-libs contained all the i386 libs one usually needed. Now you can install both versions side by side. Yes there is, ia32-libs-* are superseded by multi-arch and no longer maintained/updated. But the new ia32-libs are (if I am not wrong) in the amd64-repository, but cannot updated, as its dependencies are in i386-repo. That is no good idea. Yes it is, as it allows you to update ia32-libs to the new, transitional package which will then pull in the i386 stuff replacing the old ia32-libs. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121207212911.60027...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: who scrubbed the array?
Hello Dexter, Dexter Filmore dexter.film...@gmx.de wrote: Dec 2 00:57:01 xerxes kernel: [4939561.868562] md: data-check of RAID array md0 Well - who triggered it? there's no cron job that inits a check Are you sure? $ cat /etc/cron.d/mdadm # # cron.d/mdadm -- schedules periodic redundancy checks of MD devices # # Copyright © martin f. krafft madd...@madduck.net # distributed under the terms of the Artistic Licence 2.0 # # By default, run at 00:57 on every Sunday, but do nothing unless the day of # the month is less than or equal to 7. Thus, only run on the first Sunday of # each month. crontab(5) sucks, unfortunately, in this regard; therefore this # hack (see #380425). 57 0 * * 0 root if [ -x /usr/share/mdadm/checkarray ] [ $(date +\%d) -le 7 ]; then /usr/share/mdadm/checkarray --cron --all --idle --quiet; fi on current Squeeze. Best, Claudius signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: who scrubbed the array?
Hello Dexter, please don’t CC me as I am subscribed to the list (unless you want your mails to end up in /dev/null). It’d also be helpful if you refrained from top-posting and learnt how to quote properly. Dexter Filmore dexter.film...@gmx.de wrote: Yes, indeed, that's what triggered it. I checked as root on crontab -l and that did not show anything. crontab -l only gives the content of root’s crontab (usually located with the other user-specific crontabs in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/). However, cron also runs the commands specified in /etc/crontab as well as those in the directories /etc/cron.d, /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.weekly and /etc/cron.monthly (with the obvious meaning). crontab -(l|e) is really only meant for user-specific stuff, whereas system administration should be configured in /etc/crontab and the various directories. Best, Claudius signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: List of current apt sources?
Hello Wanderer, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: Is there any way to get a list of what sources are *currently* active, i.e., the ones which were in sources.list during the *most recent* successful 'apt-get update'? $ ls -1 /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Packages will give you a list of the currently loaded Packages files, whose filenames contain the archive and distribution. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121123180921.37a4c...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Swap partition vs swap file
Hello David, David Guntner dav...@akamail.net wrote: swap *file* instead. So, anyone? Pros cons? Is there any reason to prefer one over the other? Are you sure you need swap at all? If so, will your server still deliver acceptable performance if it is actively swapping? If yes, then the performance of the swap space clearly matters. If not, you want to avoid that anyways and just keep the swap around in case that something bad™ happens (to avoid the OOM to kick in immediately). A swap file gives you more flexibility at the cost of a slight performance loss. As swap is nowadays not really needed, I would hence suggest going with a swap file. Best regards, Claudius signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0
Hello J., J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote: dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled: Don’t use dpkg --force-architecture, but rather enable multi-arch as detailed in the various how tos online. To get Skype 4.1 working via multi-arch, you will need some packages from unstable, install them. If dpkg complains about a missing package foo (such as libqtwebkit4), do # apt-get install libqtwebkit4:i386 to install the i386 variant of said package (the amd64 variant won’t work with Skype i386). Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121119103537.7ab62...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Noob Question :-/ ....
Hello David, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 11/11/12 09:50, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: crw-rw 1 root disk 0, 89 Nov 10 08:34 /dev/ad6s1 [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 594 # mount -t ext3 /dev/ad6s1 /mnt mount: /dev/ad6s1 : No such device [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 595 # /mnt may already have contents. That should not be a problem, you can happily mount stuff over other stuff (the other stuff will be invisible then and lead to confusion between df and du, but apart from that, it’s fine). Could it maybe be possible that the kernel somehow does not recognize /dev/ad0s1 as a block device? If I try to mount /var/log/syslog, mount appears to set up a loop device automatically, which then leads to some confusion as mount.ntfs complains that there is no NTFS header there. Maybe something similar is happening here? Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012214428.19ca4...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: ssh issue
Hello Rainer, [ Removed useless crap from quote, cf. 20122039.14270...@bokomoko.de for original ] Rainer Dorsch m...@bokomoko.de wrote: Am Sunday 11 November 2012 schrieb Selim T. Erdogan: Rainer Dorsch, 11.11.2012: bokomoko:~# ls -l ~rd/.ssh/authorized_keys ~gpxrecorder/.ssh/authorized_hosts /home/gpxrecorder/.ssh/authorized_hosts ^ /home/rd/.ssh/authorized_keys The miracle (for me) is that the configuration for both accounts seems to be absolutely identicalit certainly is not, but where is the difference hidden? It is not. authorized_keys != authorized_hosts, as Selim pointed out. Rename ~gpxrecorder/.ssh/authorized_hosts to ~gpxrecorder/.ssh/authorized_keys and try again. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012222304.683cb...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Using multiarch on wheezy
Hello Florian, Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de wrote: Why does apt-get complain about dependency, which is already fullfilled? Not all packages are yet multi-archified, that is, declare that they can be used on a multi-arch system (and how). In particular, since libgif4 does not declare Multi-Arch:same, it cannot be installed at the same time as another architecture of itself: libgif4:amd64 and libgif4:i386 ‘conflict’. Since it also not declares Multi-Arch:foreign, the libgif4:amd64 package cannot be used to satisfy the dependency of openjdk-7-jre:i386 (and vice versa, libgif4:i386 cannot be used to satisfy the dependency of emacs23:amd64). At the current moment, your best bet is probably to use an i386 chroot or wait until libgif4 gets multiarchified. There is already a bug report about this (http://bugs.debian.org/647497). Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121104112731.4daf1...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Using multiarch on wheezy
Hey, Claudius Hubig debian_1...@chubig.net wrote: Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de wrote: Why does apt-get complain about dependency, which is already fullfilled? following up on myself: It seems that openjdk-7-jre-headless:i386 installs fine on Multi-Arch (amd64 host). Maybe that is sufficient for your needs? Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121104120039.3f78e...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: please put not all into multiarch!
Hello Valery, Valery Mamonov valerymamo...@gmail.com wrote: About number of packages, of course - install almost 32bit-operating system to run only one program. I think, it's a problem of skype itself, too. It is the problem of running a 32 bit application on a normally 64 bit operating system. Of course you need all the libraries - this has merely been hidden by the fact that previously, they were composed into a few large packages: 0 11:11 0 ares: ~ # apt-cache show ia32-libs | grep Installed-Size Installed-Size: 80838 0 11:11 0 ares: ~ # apt-cache show ia32-libs-gtk | grep Installed-Size Installed-Size: 34244 whereas now, you just install the ‘normal’ 32 bit libraries. This has the advantage that not one big package has to be updated each time one of the libraries it contains changes, but only one small(-ish) library package. Best regards, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012102935.7ccb8...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: please put not all into multiarch!
Hello Hans-J., Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: What I do not understand: Why does skype want to install lots of new 32-bit libs, when the package (and this is the 32-bit one) already can use either ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk (which are also used by other applications). There is such a Skype package, it is called the amd64 version (from dpkg’s point of view). However, this package contains 32 bit code and therefore relies on ia32-libs etc. I suggest this solution: Packages should be built in that way, that they can use either ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk or the libs from multiarch:i386. There are simply two different versions of Skype there: - Skype 32 bit uses multiarch:i386 - Skype 64 bit uses ia32-libs* On the other hand, it should be made sure, that 32-bit applications should be able to use 64-bit libs as much as possible. 32-bit is dying! And in the next years, it will not be used any more. 32-bit applications can and will never use 64-bit libs. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121021140808.68e3f...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: please put not all into multiarch!
Hello lee, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Claudius Hubig debian_1...@chubig.net writes: the advantage that not one big package has to be updated each time one of the libraries it contains changes, but only one small(-ish) library package. And which packages do I need to have installed to get 32bit support working again as it was before they broke it? Just telling users they must switch to brokenarch, leaving them screwed without 32bit support and saying we're not going to fix it because we don't want to update the packages anymore and will remove them is *not* an advantage. The packages your 32-bit application depends on. Simple as that :) And because these packages are also 32-bit packages, your application can easily define which it needs and which it doesn’t need, rather than having to define a dependency on ia32-libs (and possibly other ia32-libs-* packages) of which it only needs a few libraries. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121021183358.3b45f...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: please put not all into multiarch!
Hello Mark, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: What some of you are missing is that the transitional package ia32-libs in sid is uninstallable unless you allow experimental, because of some of the dependencies. It's just not a viable option unless you are a dev working on those packages. And why exactly would you want to install ia32-libs on a multi-arch system? No package from the 32-bit archive (i.e. those working with multi-arch) will depend on it. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121021183546.5d093...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: please put not all into multiarch!
Hello Mark, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: However, there are still packages that depend on it. Therefore, you need it if you have one of those packages. Which packages? The Joker in the deck is that it has screwed up dependencies itself, and it really should not be in sid. Sid, by definition, is broken. If your system has a lot of packages installed, like mine, you have to enable experimental, then install it. I have to admit I did not look into that any further, but, yes, the dependencies are rather screwed up: ia32-libs:amd64 depends on ia32-libs-i386, which is only available in the i386 architecture (and then able to pull in other i386 packages). (When I naively install the transitional update, I got about thirty *:i386 libraries and about a dozen packages from experimental upgraded or installed. I am very nervous about it. ia32-libs (the old amd64 package) contains many, many i386 libraries - in order to get _all_ of them, it has to depend on all these i386 libraries, which in turn means that they all have to be multi-archified - this takes some time. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121021214245.00c44...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: When was Lilo replaced as the Debian default?
Hello Lisi, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Which version was the first to have GRUB by default? I know that Etch and Lenny both had GRUB by default and that Squeeze has GRUB 2 by default. But when did Lilo stop being default? (I had GRUB in Sarge, but it may not have been the default.) http://openskill.info/infobox.php?ID=1104 and http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/lilo.htm say that GRUB was the default in Sarge. Best regards, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Query about failure of Debian 6 64 bit to swap properly
Hello Bret, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: opera web browser. Each window of it shows as using 14GB of virtual memory. Nice. Opera usually uses as much memory as it sees fit, but you can set the memory cache manually (Preferences → Advanced → History). A very wild guess would be that due to your extremely large swap space (which is rarely used by anything), Opera thinks it might use much more memory than normally. On my system (8 GB RAM + 8 GB swap), Opera uses something between 1 and 3 GB (residual/virtual), depending on how long it runs. A problem that I (appear to) have found, is that the malware named javascript appears to cause havoc in continually increasing usage of RAM. Javascript is a programming language, not a malware. Some web sites use client-side processing, via javascript, and I regard it as malicious, and I believe that a well written web site should not use client-side processing, but should instead use server-side processing. This is simply wrong, since many things are much faster with additional client-side processing, not to mention the fact that one may specifically want to do some client-side processing instead of trusting the server with everything (and needing a TCP round-trip for each request…). In some web browsers that I use, I have javascript disabled, but I left it enabled in opera. I suggest you take a close look at the pages you usually visit. Best regards, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Email management workflow
Hello Jimmy, Jimmy Thrasibule thrasibule.ji...@gmail.com wrote: I know about IMAP but one of my concerns is to being able to have access without an Internet connection and I also like the fact to clean out all my emails from the servers. My mobile phone (Nokia E63) offers the option to basically add a BCC header to all sent emails, which I use to send them to myself – they then arrive in the POP3 Inbox on my server and my workstation can download them. Of course, the headers are a bit off, but From: and To: are usually correct, as well as the Msg-Ids. Best regards, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Versioned vs. unversioned dependecies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello Klaus, Klaus Ethgen kl...@ethgen.ch wrote: firs, please do cc to me as I have not subscribed this list. Done :) But now it is not possible to deinstall libasound2 (well, it is and everything except the package management work well without libasound2) so it is not possible to use this package. The reason seams to be that every package has a versioned dependency for libasound2 which seems not to be working with provides. Yes. From Debian Policy 7.5 http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-virtual: | If a relationship field has a version number attached, only real | packages will be considered to see whether the relationship is | satisfied (or the prohibition violated, for a conflict or | breakage). In other words, if a version number is specified, this is a | request to ignore all Provides for that package name and consider only | real packages. The package manager will assume that a package | providing that virtual package is not of the right version. A | Provides field may not contain version numbers, and the version number | of the concrete package which provides a particular virtual package | will not be considered when considering a dependency on or conflict | with the virtual package name. Is there any way to have liboss4-salsa-asound2 installed on debian? And is there any way to overwrite the versioned dependencies? If it wasn't for the Conflicts: statement in liboss4-salsa-asound2, you could create a ‘real’ package libasound2 with a sufficiently high version number using equivs. Then, you could adapt the control statements of liboss4-salsa-asound2 to remove the Conflicts: statement (doable, especially if you run stable and seldomly face upgrades). You could also try asking all the maintainers of the packages depending on libasound2 to please use something like | Depends: libasound2 (= a.b) | liboss4-salsa-asound2 (= c.d) However, I doubt that this is a viable approach, since OSS is rather deprecated on Linux (maybe the kFreeBSD folks would like such a scheme, though) and there are _many_ packages which just depend on libasound2. But, on the other hand, you could argue that some packages already do this, for example, java-package, gimp or libao4 (check with apt-cache rdepends libasound2). Best regards, Claudius - -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQLh/PAAoJEMCBEuXXLNukMkkP+wdNwdhgPwAZ4VO5IH0bL+XI jM/qe7nhpHta2dNJst4SY8KWO7X1UWB5hH99R6OvWHW1SOuDg7lTNf9iS/IAdFHa lVPWfuDFFQ3OZhL2lCSMAIiSbkJ74C5bZX1E8hymIJ9hGUgfyGx/GmyeFonik9By NZSD913KAK/KP2RdArI/PTWFwMXNm1S2xfk3ZO8v7XuySzpweRsicCYj4BXZfhQW 9Yp5HxuxMyZ/2XYRc0HC30b/Lw4L7h7bjnKoD6xNlQ8JsGj5R/yx8ZUfn6YogALD Mh7JX5CiUtY21GdIPlh5R1CcpC2YLj9750koZ25fdPfrn39jGz+FHD/fxadHIAFF NOC5GSaINLjULjWi89k4jXBGZgNt0elvoZasuD7ALST58hBEVSqylEgEVpTsnlVD WoST6a1UY+j+px+qYRJt3RXfyK3Co/tTEwI4KuRwAc0KNMmoOrtkTMV9UGZxkW65 XktZ1AgXsN/tITi2P+PIOuBlPvbWNWPWSBEa9pEiatLstbO/7NUYf/udyRxalQpl 5yW/ZUMlLDlr9WWSscCIaX3RhrXaFp/r7QgiNhX3EN0eKUXGVkxFyaF4FWs88fxJ ah+cgedGCvvTB8QkShgdqwvIzcS5mYCC9pGcTAL5HYu8vOmdB6MPi8PEiolK8GY3 y9jiZJFaGx57uzBk7x/d =5oBd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Moving packets from one port to another
Hello James, James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to route packets from ones from one interface to another, without using NAT i.e. eth0: 192.168.1.31 (connected to rest of world and DHCP server) eth1: 192.168.1.32 (connected to other computers.) The other computers would be on the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet and hopefully be able to see all the computers on the subnet. I presume I'm going to have to make some sort of bridge, with some forwarding as with IPtables. It would be nice not to have a static IP on the other computers. Any suggestions, or discussion of the options, would be gratefully received, James There are two ways to do this: a) The bridge: You add both eth0 and eth1 to a bridge, which then gets an IP address from the DHCP server and forwards everything on the ethernet level. b) The router: For this to work, you need to divide your subnet into further subnets (or only use specific IPs behind the gateway) in order to -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Moving packets from one port to another
Hello James, please excuse the incomplete mail. Ctrl+Return did not do what I intended it to do. :\ James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to route packets from ones from one interface to another, without using NAT i.e. eth0: 192.168.1.31 (connected to rest of world and DHCP server) eth1: 192.168.1.32 (connected to other computers.) The other computers would be on the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet and hopefully be able to see all the computers on the subnet. I presume I'm going to have to make some sort of bridge, with some forwarding as with IPtables. It would be nice not to have a static IP on the other computers. Any suggestions, or discussion of the options, would be gratefully received, James There are two ways to do this: a) The bridge: You add both eth0 and eth1 to a bridge, which then gets an IP address from the DHCP server and forwards everything on the ethernet level. b) The router: For this to work, you need to divide your subnet into further subnets (or only use specific IPs behind the gateway) in order to - set up your external DHCP server/router to tell it that it can find those IPs behind the gateway. - set up your gateway to tell it to forward stuff to those computers via eth1. If this is done, you need to enable IP forwarding via a sysctl call on the gateway. Here, the forwarding takes place on the IPv4/6 level. I would suggest to go by a), which is much simpler. If you need more help with either of them, please feel free to ask. Best regards, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal
Hello Joel, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, what I'm looking for is something that will allow him to loop through the equations and watch the results. Numbers are easy, of course. Perl (his only language so far) gets us that far. He enjoyed playing with the graphical equation solver on the old Mac. Maybe it spoiled him. But he would get a lot more motivated, I think, if he could plot the numbers, watch the equation step through and plot the numbers in 2D on a window on the screen like you could do with the old BASIC+graphics commands or Turbo Pascal. If you are only interested in plotting equations etc., maybe having a look at gnuplot, which has dedicated Python bindings in Debian, would be sensible. Of course, gnuplot is no complete graphical environment, but if I understood your problem correctly, it should be the easiest solution available. If you decide to spend some money, I’d like to suggest Mathematica, which has a very rich feature set and a nice programming language. Maple also is quite nice, but IMHO lacks some of Mathematica’s features. Best regards, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel Oops during/after rsync
Hello Camaleón, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Is the Patrician III a stable pattern for the crash? I mean, is it always crashing when running it and it keeps stable when at the time the routine runs the computer is idle? I am not entirely sure. So far, the computer crashed thrice during a backup, and, at all times, Patrician III had been running. However, I’ve been playing Patrician III for more than four weeks now (not all that much to do at the moment…). Hence, I can say that, whenever the computer crashed, Patrician III was running and a backup had just finished, but there have been many more times when a backup succeeded while Patrician III was running and the computer did not crash. Can you reproduce the bug from a Debian kernel? If yes, you can report it at the BTS; otherwise you can file a bug report upstream. The kernel is compiled from Debian sources. I will see into running a ‘standard’ Debian kernel if the problem persists. Google points to some user reports about a hardware problem (memory) but of course, nothing conclusive. I should have mentioned that running memtest86+ didn’t find any problems :\ Best regards thank you very much for your reply, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Kernel Oops during/after rsync
Hello, recently, I _sometimes_ encounter a kernel oops during a backup run. This did not occur until a few days ago, furthermore, all the crashes so far (a backup takes place every half hour and I’ve only seen three during the last five days) occurred while I was playing Patrician III with Wine. I don’t know whether Wine/Patrician III has anything to do with that; if anything, I suspect temperature issues, but the same machine survives five hours of video encoding just fine (though the CPU frequency is sometimes automatically lowered due to high temperature). The backup script, attached below, consists of the following stages: a) log that the backup started b) rsync some data c) log that the backup finished d) call sync e) log that the sync finished a) and c) are logged: Aug 7 23:30:01 ares Backup_Alix[638]: Backup started. Aug 7 23:30:05 ares Backup_Alix[648]: Backup finished. but not e). At the same time, the following is written to kern.log, the screen shows part of that message and the computer powers off after a while. Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.117797] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at 8812e5463620 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.117844] IP: [810d6985] __d_lookup_rcu+0x136/0x156 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.117880] PGD 1a0c063 PUD 0 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.117901] Oops: [#1] SMP Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.117924] CPU 3 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.117934] Modules linked in: e1000e tp_smapi(O) thinkpad_ec(O) iwlwifi [last unloaded: e1000e] Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.117987] Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.117996] Pid: 641, comm: rsync Tainted: G O 3.4.1.a2017.1 #1 LENOVO 291239G/291239G Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118042] RIP: 0010:[810d6985] [810d6985] __d_lookup_rcu+0x136/0x156 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118082] RSP: 0018:880143349c48 EFLAGS: 00010282 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118107] RAX: 0008 RBX: 8812e5463608 RCX: 0014 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118139] RDX: 0f40 RSI: c9002000 RDI: 88011c927a40 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118171] RBP: 88011c927a40 R08: 0008 R09: 2f2f2f2f2f2f2f2f Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118203] R10: ef94b111 R11: 8d9093ff R12: 880143349e18 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118235] R13: 880143349d70 R14: 880143349d70 R15: 880143349e18 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118268] FS: 7fa33fd9f700() GS:88023bd8() knlGS: Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118303] CS: 0010 DS: ES: CR0: 80050033 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118330] CR2: 8812e5463620 CR3: 0001427fd000 CR4: 07e0 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118362] DR0: DR1: DR2: Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118393] DR3: DR6: 0ff0 DR7: 0400 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118425] Process rsync (pid: 641, threadinfo 880143348000, task 88023073d980) Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118460] Stack: Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118471] 880115b097d0 0081 8801e8ce6015 88023073d980 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118511] 88023073d980 8801e8ce6015 880143349cf4 0008 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118551] 880115b097d0 880143349e08 880143349d48 88011c927a40 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118590] Call Trace: Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118606] [810cdac8] ? do_lookup+0x41/0x291 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118632] [810cf160] ? path_lookupat+0xe0/0x670 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118660] [810e709c] ? __getblk+0x24/0x245 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118684] [810cf70e] ? do_path_lookup+0x1e/0x9a Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118711] [810cd876] ? getname_flags+0x148/0x1e2 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118738] [810d0fcb] ? user_path_at_empty+0x47/0x7b Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118768] [81158eb2] ? jbd2_journal_stop+0x1f0/0x202 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118797] [8113a266] ? __ext4_journal_stop+0x6e/0x74 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118825] [81136aa0] ? ext4_link+0x121/0x156 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118851] [810c86e7] ? vfs_fstatat+0x32/0x60 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118876] [810ce9e8] ? vfs_link+0x161/0x17f Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118901] [810c883c] ? sys_newlstat+0x12/0x2b Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118928] [810db57d] ? mntput_no_expire+0x10/0xf4 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118955] [810d1672] ? sys_linkat+0x1b8/0x1c7 Aug 7 23:30:04 ares kernel: [75763.118983] [8159cca2] ?
Re: Update the dpkg's status database
Hello Slavko, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: LANG=C dpkg --list jarwrapper No packages found matching jarwrapper. LANG=C dpkg-query --load-avail --list jarwrapper [jarwrapper is shown] Please, is here simple way to update the status database? How about using it? dpkg-query(1) clearly states: --load-avail Also load the available file when using the --show and --list commands, which now default to only querying the status file. So to use --list on uninstalled packages, you need --load-avail (which is only understood by dpkg-query, but not dpkg). Since dpkg is normally meant as tool for _local_ package administration (installation of .deb, removal of packages etc.), which does not know about package files available elsewhere but not locally installed, this makes perfect sense. You can also use -p (--print-avail) which is more-or-less identical to apt-cache show. Maybe you can refine for what exactly you’re looking? Best regards, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Update the dpkg's status database
Hello Slavko,
Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote:
Ah, yes. It is my misunderstanding (or my outdated knowledge?), because i
never see the problem with uninstalled packages before now. But i don't
used it for some months.
Uninstalled, but not purged, packages are shown. Try apt-get install
jarwrapper; apt-get remove jarwrapper; dpkg --purge jarwrapper and
compare the different output of dpkg -l.
I am using it in my personal script for querying the package description
for translation by email interface of the DDTP. It is used for checking
that the package exist, to prevent typo in package name (and querying
nonexistent package) by checking the existence of the package in database.
I am using the query of the available database now for this.
Using dpkg-query also has the advantage that you can specify the
output format:
0 17:34 0 claudius@ares: ~/Desktop $ dpkg-query --load-avail -f
'${binary:Summary}\n' -W pidgin2
No packages found matching pidgin2.
1 17:34 0 claudius@ares: ~/Desktop $ dpkg-query --load-avail -f
'${binary:Summary}\n' -W jarwrapper
(no description available)
0 17:34 0 claudius@ares: ~/Desktop $ dpkg-query --load-avail -f
'${binary:Summary}\n' -W pidgin
graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X
0 17:34 0 claudius@ares: ~/Desktop $ dpkg-query -f '${binary:Summary}\n' -W
jarwrapper
No packages found matching jarwrapper.
1 17:35 0 claudius@ares: ~/Desktop $
Note the return code of 1 when no packages are found.
Best regards,
Claudius
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Re: [SFTP] wierdness
Hello Jeremy, Jeremy MAURO jma...@antidot.net wrote: sftp ls -l old -rw-r--r--1 user 100 9798 Jul 16 07:56 20120716_full_delhaizedirect_categories.zip -rw-r--r--1 user 100 9802 Jul 17 09:57 20120717_full_delhaizedirect_categories.zip sftp ls -l -h old -rw-r--r--0 1047 100 9.6K Jul 16 09:56 old/20120716_full_delhaizedirect_categories.zip -rw-r--r--0 1047 100 9.6K Jul 17 11:57 old/20120717_full_delhaizedirect_categories.zip My first guess is that -h somehow translates the foreign time (probably UTC) to your local time (UTC+2), whereas using ssh, the server does not know your local time and hence can do no translation. Best regards, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt
Hello cortman, cortman c0rt...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately this does not appear to have solved it after all- after running both apt-get install on the packages empathy wanted to remove (gnome, gnome-core, gnome-desktop-environment, task-gnome-desktop) and apt-mark manual, attempting to purge empathy tries to remove these same packages again. I marked Empathy itself as manually installed; that didn't work either. You cannot install gnome, gnome-core, gnome-desktop-environment or task-gnome-desktop without installing empathy. If you want to remove empathy but keep the other packages normally pulled in by gnome, you will have to mark _these_ (rhythmbox, libreoffice etc.) as installed manually. Best regards, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt
Hello cortman, cortman c0rt...@gmail.com wrote: Ok- I must have misunderstood- apparently there's no way to uninstall empathy without also uninstalling the gnome metapackages, the trick is to mark all the contents of the packages as manually installed, therefore you can uninstall the metapackage safely. Dependencies rather than contents, but, yes. Best regards, Claudius -- A board is the planck unit of boredom. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
