[OT-ish] IGPL - Idea General Public Licence
What if we made a GPL for Ideas? Write up your idea, and licence it under a GPL like licence. Since I cannot just get a thing done or manufactured, perhaps I can get my idea accomplished by simply sharing it...? I thought of this, again, while reading: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/28/technology/circuits/28wind.html ... and: http://www.vestas.dk/ I was thinking about how things like that could be done under a GPL or open hardware like system, with an industry co-op for research and design sharing, college tuition scholarships, internships, etc... they could licence the blueprints in some way that would ensure that nobody takes over and overcompetes for a sales area or something... but there could be more factories and distributed world wide to simplify logistics for new ones and _compatible_ replacement parts. These wind-dragons --- will they slow the wind down, and thus prevent air pollution from being flushed from our cities? Never mind. -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why does dpkg prompt for unchanged conffiles during upgrade?
Why is it prompting for these when I have not modified them at all AFAIK? Is this a bug in dpkg or a packaging error? Anyone know? 8-8 Setting up libgnome2-common (2.0.1-1) ... Configuration file `/etc/gconf/schemas/desktop_gnome_applications_window_manager.schemas' == File on system created by you or by a script. == File also in package provided by package maintainer. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions Z : background this process to examine the situation The default action is to keep your current version. *** desktop_gnome_applications_window_manager.schemas (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? y Installing new version of config file /etc/gconf/schemas/desktop_gnome_applications_window_manager.schemas ... Configuration file `/etc/gconf/schemas/desktop_gnome_file_views.schemas' == File on system created by you or by a script. == File also in package provided by package maintainer. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions Z : background this process to examine the situation The default action is to keep your current version. *** desktop_gnome_file_views.schemas (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? 8-8 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Both kernels are installed. s/lilo/grub/g (Re: cannot upgrade kernel 2.4.16 - 2.4.18)
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 15:29, Russell L. Harris wrote: Greetings, Karl. You recall that, upon discovering that the network was down after I upgraded from kernel 2.2.20 to 2.4.18-586tsc, I rebooted from floppy and installed kernel 2.4.16-586tsc (the only other suitable alternative in TESTING). Today, when I try to upgrade back to kernel 2.4.18-586tsc, apt-get returns the message: Sorry, kernel-image-2.4.18-586tsc is already the newest version. However, uname tells me that the kernel is 2.4.16. I rebooted and tried again to install 2.4.18, but received the same error message from apt-get. Must I be content to run 2.4.16 forever? You have both kernels installed right now. Are you using Lilo to boot, or Grub? I assume Lilo, since you installed using the standard CD... If you look in your /etc/lilo.conf, you'll see that there are two images available for booting. Look in / or in /boot for the symlinks referenced by the lilo.conf. You can reverse them if you like: # mv vmlinuz.old vmlinuz.new # mv vmlinuz vmlinuz.old # mv vmlinuz.new vmlinuz Do the same thing for the initrd.img links if they exist, and then run lilo before you reboot. Another option, really a better one, IMO, is to apt-get install grub grub-doc. (leave lilo installed for now; and please read this to the end before you proceed, at your own risk, NO WARRANTY and all that...) Have you ever forgotten to run lilo after changing something, and wound up with an unbootable machine? Grub fixes that problem, by giving you a boot loader shell from which you can choose, by hand if necessary, which kernel to boot and what command line to give it. You can also, of course, set that all up in advance, in the menu.lst file... (see below and RTFM) Grub is filesystem aware. Make sure that your /boot drive has a supported filesystem type on it. Run ls /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/ to see which ones it supports. I don't think that Grub, yet, can deal with EVMS or LVM volumes. It could not do so last time I tried it, so your /boot directory must reside on a PC BIOS compatible volume. (a normal partition) # cd /boot # mkdir grub # ln -s . boot # cd grub # cp -a /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* . # grub At this point, you are inside the grub shell. You are about to replace the master boot record with Grub! How is your drive partitioned? What partition is /boot on? In Grub, (hd0) means the same as Linux /dev/hda, and (hd1) is /dev/hdb. (hd0,0) is /dev/hda1, and (hd0,1) is /dev/hda2. It's simple enough... So, say your /boot directory resides on /dev/hda1. It probably does, but perhaps is not... find out by typing df /boot and seeing what device it prints out. If you are using devfs and a 2.4 kernel, it might print something like the following, rather than something like /dev/hda1: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 ... for the device name. If so, you must translate that into a grub device name... ls -l /dev/discs/ (note the trailing /!) will show you the table. (hd0) == disc0, (hd1) == disc1, and so forth. Now that you know what disk device /boot resides on, you can use the grub shell's setup command to install Grub. There's an info document for Grub, so you can read that with info grub to get the details. The grub shell has a help command also. Here's the quick recipe... remember to replace the drive and boot partition in my example with the right devices for your own machine! grub setup (hd0) (hd0,0) If that worked, then proceed to the next step. Otherwise, RTFM and ask someone what do next if you can't figure it out... !!! Don't forget to run lilo if grub DID NOT install, since the failed grub install probably left your computer unbootable... If you are not using Lilo in the MBR (look in lilo.conf and see if boot and root are the same, or if boot is the device without the partition number... If the latter, that is, boot is the device and not a partition of it, then just running lilo will restore your old MBR, otherwise, you probably need to reinstall mbr or a (gasp) DOS MBR. I imagine that most people with a Linux only system (no dual boot) will have Lilo in the MBR... Remember the question regarding this that it asked during install from the boot-floppies or CD?) Type Ctrl-D to exit the grub shell, and then use your editor to change /etc/kernel-img.conf (make a backup of the current one if you like) to read: 88 do_symlinks=no image_in_boot=yes do_initrd=yes do_bootfloppy=no do_bootloader=no postinst_hook=update-grub postrm_hook=update-grub 88 Now run update-grub, and let it create a default /boot/grub/menu.lst for you. Edit that (it is mostly self-documented), then run update-grub again. The hooks in the kernel-img.conf will ensure that the file is updated automaticly when you install a new kernel-image package. update-grub adds the new kernel to the boot
Re: Securing bind..
[ The quoted email is dated last December... I hope nobody minds me ]
[ reviving the conversation. I'm catching up on a few mail groups. ]
Russell == Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Russell On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:17, Jor-el wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote:
Also don't allow recursion from outside machines.
Why does this help?
Russell When someone sends a recursive query to your server then they know
(with a
Russell good degree of accuracy) what requests are going to be made by
that server
Russell and what responses will be expected. So you can send a recursive
query for
Russell www.microsoft.com, then send a dozen packets appearing to be
responses from
Russell the Microsoft DNS servers giving an IP address of one of your
servers. While
Russell you're at it you make sure that the false packets you sent had
long TTL
Russell entries so that they stay in the cache for a while. Then suddenly
you have
Russell all clients of that DNS server thinking that the MS servers are on
your IP
Russell addresses (with lots of potential for abuse).
{Internal network}[firewall/gateway router]-+{Internet}
|
+---[Nameserver]
The nameserver is configured to allow recursive queries only from
hosts coming from inside, through the firewall/gateway router (Linux
2.4 w/iptables). What if someone on the internal network trys to
poison the DNS like this? They could be a student on a school
network, a contract employee, a misbehaving full timer, or whatever.
To prevent that, you should have some sort of egress filtering on
the firewall router, to prevent DNS replies (spoofed) from being
sent out through the gateway.
That still does not prevent them from logging into an outside host
they own -- their home computer, a co-located machine someplace out
on the net -- and sending the spoofed responses from there.
My question is; is this scenario possible, and is there any way to
prevent it from occuring?
Russell Recursive requests go to port 53 (getting a DNS client to even
talk to
Russell another port is difficult or impossible depending on the client).
Russell iptables/ipchains blocks access to port 53 from untrusted IPs (IE
everything
Russell outside your LAN or dialup pool).
But then how will anyone on the network access your domain's primary
name server?
Russell Bind will not be expecting any data other than replies to it's
requests on
Russell port 54 (the port that is open to the outside world) so even if
you screw up
Russell in your configuration of bind to not allow recursion from the
outside world
Russell you're still protected.
But it's an inside job. By an expert. How do I win the chess game
then?
Russell Smart people NEVER rely on only one layer of protection if they
can avoid it.
And they never rely solely on their OWN knowledge and experience.
--
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Why don't we every see Debian articles on these sites?
[ Sorry for sending this to so many lists; I want to reach a wider audience. ] I would really like to see articles touting Debian GNU/Linux on sites like this one: URL:http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/filters/rc/0,14177,6020498,00.html The commercial distributions hire PR writers to write press release articles that are submitted for publication on sites like zdnet.com. It would be very awesome if someone would get a little writing practice out of creating an article about Debian! We are as good as or better than the commercial distributions, but the suits won't hire folks from the Debian consultants page unless they know Debian exists and see it as a viable alternative to the commercial distributions. Any tech/business writing students out there using Debian GNU/Linux? How about writing an (a series of?) article(s) and see if you can get paid by submitting it for a grade in your writing class? Any professors out there who are Debian afficionados? Please assign stuff like this! Anyone using Debian on the job or to solve consulting problems? Write us an article! Code matters more than commercials, but nobody will use it if they don't know it exists or don't take it seriously. Perhaps the consultants listed on the Debian web site could toss some cash in a hat and pay a good PR person part time? (I really like the Progeny built on strength slogan. It's the perfect counter to the RHAT Red Hat District article. Enjoy a virtual workout today! Water please.) In particular, this article is the sort of thing that decision makers who control the purse strings are going to like the sound of... note the emphasis on monetary cost and value provided! URL:http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2841690,00.html Why don't I write it? Because I'm just not any good at that sort of thing. I have little business experience and don't come off well trying to talk about that type of thing. I hate neckties. One of you will be much better at it than I. -- mailto: (Karl M. Hegbloom) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free the Software http://www.debian.org/social_contract http://www.microsharp.com phone://USA/WA/360-260-2066
Linux counter registration?
Have you registered your machines at Linux Counter? I wonder if we really are in second place, or if we are undercounted? URL:http://counter.li.org/ -- mailto: (Karl M. Hegbloom) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.microsharp.com phone://USA/WA/360-260-2066 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freegeek non profit SHOULD use non-profit libré Linux distro.
The first in-a-rut NERDO that clackers about flame bait or flame war get's E (gnus-summary-mark-as-expirable) pushed on the message and I go on to read the coherent responses. ;-) I've been LIFTING WEIGHTS and can push it hard and fast if I have to. Wouldn't you rather I read your entire message instead? Please treat this as a serious discussion, cow pokes. My stream of concousness (the pasta, yeah. It's a glop; overeditted glop or as I think of it glop?) style of writing may be difficult for some folks who got forced to sit all in a row and salute the flag and pray to it (quite the symbol of freedom; obey! salute! recite it! shut up! don't touch that! be polite!) and got taught proper english normative grammar and have never burned a draft card or smoked a joint. It is my feeling that Freegeek (they don't use the needle nose pliers to smoke dope) is making a serious goof - faux paux? (not my words) by installing Mandrake (A for-profit commercial Linux distribution) rather than Debian GNU/Linux, a distribution put together by a coalition of volunteer software engineers, under the auspices of a non-profit corporation. (Software In the Public Interest, NY) The Debian folks are paid, (and not all of the pay is monetary); their paychecks come from various sources; debian is _part_ of their job; of their LIFE. They share the work. They share the kit. Yes, it's a kit. (Yes, I'm sure you are very disapointed by that. Another darned kit. melodramatic-sigh/ Ok, my turn to sling a little fud and paranoia. Maybe someone lobbied _them_ (freegeek; heretofore and henceforth and sobeeit to be known forever as them until they see the light and confess to wishing they'd joined the Debian family; we hope it's not too late) to use Mandrake who saw future customers? If that's true, money, rather than engineering and communal ideals was the motivator... (begging your no doubt heated responses...) Perhaps they just plain don't know any darn better. Maybe they bought into that marketroid fud about Debian not being secure. Insecurity is relative? To what? Where's a nail biting computer security expert when you need one? (apt-get install tusk-harden; urpmi fnjord) Oh yeah and just look at the consultants list for Debian supporters. So there. And it is NOT A RELIGION. It is a LIFESTYLE. Get it straight. Gee whiz. They don't know anything at all about Debian; have never used it, nor have ever spent the time it takes to become familiar with the installer; the installer that rarely needs to be used more than once on the same machine; that you run once and for years and years after that you just upgrade and never see the installer again... that you RUN ONCE ON THE MASTER THAT YOU REPLICATE on every machine after that... and the cost of development!? Not paid for by slave labor at factories who shrink wrap (land fill fodder) and palletize cute little waste of natural resources penguin cartooned at $95 a box we'll (the upper management) be RICH RICH RICH! bon bon bon; or by doesn't pay the bills one life to live a hundred dollars a day-yay bitching all day trying to get that insane man to get a job; but by people who are learning an awful lot more working on Debian than they'd learn in any usury funded college in the world; by people who work for firms that enjoy the prestige of owning stock who can code... hahah. Just a little joke; I'll put my tie right back on now sarcastic-tone/SIR/... had it hanging in my nose ring while I had it off... enjoy sharing with the community who provided them with the basis they utilize to solve whatever problem it was that brought them to their knees before christ our god I swear I'll pay off that student loan massa! ... To install Linux. To do it yourself. To take responsibility themselves and shoulder a churl's fair load. (flash peace-sign/) (but only if you work on what I want you to work on and only if I can make a get rich quick eBuck with what you create for me and my customers and who really gives a shit about that arcane lisp anyway it doesn't pay the usury bills) But paid for with the time and effort of many people working in _concert_, who believe that there are more important things than little green men who... peices of paper. A wheelbarrow full for a loaf of bread at $60,000 a year foreach programmer, admin, and whoever can use a computer well enough to warm body sits in the chair and wants to go live for real inflation. Just think of how much manpower we are going to need in the future in this industry... Share the load; stream of conciousness fire off an email to the trouble ticket line and a few months later your wishlist bug is closed by upstream thank you for the idea now millions of people can enjoy the new feature. Full stop. For a dollar two ninty five; and please send us a few billion more tons of potatos for our starving babies (we love to fuck too). But only if
Re: [PLUG] File copy method that is twice as fast as cp -a.
Russell == Russell Senior [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russell c) if I am doing this between machines, I can pipe it through ssh Russell thusly: Russell tar -C /srcdir -clf - . | ssh targethost 'tar -C /targetdir -xpf -' Russell or Russell ssh targethost 'tar -C /srcdir -clf - .' | tar -C /targetdir -xpf - This will be faster, I think... Am I right? (I've not time to test right now.) # tar -C /srcdir/.. -clf - srcdir | ssh targethost 'buffer -m 8m -p 75 | tar -C /landingzone -xpf -' Note that the buffer is running on the other end. If the link is slow, you may want to use the -C option to ssh, or put that in you ~/.ssh/config for that host. -- mailto: (Karl M. Hegbloom) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.microsharp.com phone://USA/WA/360-260-2066 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
File copy method that is twice as fast as cp -a.
the filesystem handing file names off to cpio who must then stat and read each file itself, and then also write it back out to the new location. In the tar c | buffer | tar x case though, the tar c is making its own list of files, then packing them up and piping the whole bundle off to the buffer (our BTS?), where it is then ready to be unpacked by the tar x. Hmmm. cpio doesn't know how to find, it just knows how to archive or copy through... Many of you don't know how to fix the code when you find a bug, yet. Nor do I. Often enough it's way over my head. Often enough the BTS already contains a report about the bug I just found. :-) It's late and I'm rambling and I don't feel like editting this story any longer. Just thought I'd share my findings. Hope it helps someone. -- Karl M. Hegbloom mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNU Emacs / XEmacs tip #(incf emacsen-tip-number)
I just did an apt-get source in the course of gathering mise en place to study OpenLDAP, and needed a quick way to review the man pages for all of the Build-Depends libraries, etc. Here's my five minute solution. First, I visited debian/control, and used C-space C-e M-w[1] to grab a copy of the Build-Depends line. Here's what it looks like: Build-Depends: libdb3-dev, libwrap0-dev, debhelper (= 2.0.54), libiodbc2-dev, patch, libsasl-dev, dpkg-dev (= 1.7.1), libncurses5-dev I then did M-x shell, then C-y to grab that into a shell prompt, after a quick cd to a more convienient location than the debian/ directory of OpenLDAP 2. I editted it, removing the header, the commas, and the version numbers, leaving just a space separated list, and then stuck it in a shell variable for easy access. % export pkgs=libdb3-dev libwrap0-dev debhelper libiodbc2-dev patch libsasl-dev dpkg-dev libncurses5-dev I made sure those packages were all installed with a quick[2]: % sudo apt-get -q install $pkgs ... and then: % for pkg in $pkgs; do egrep '/man/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/$pkg.list manlist.txt; done After that, I did C-x C-f manlist.txt, and wrote the following lisp function, which is now in my `user-init-file'[3]: (require 'thingatpt) (defun man-locally-at-point () (interactive) (let ((manpage (thing-at-point 'filename))) (if (= 1 (function-max-args #'manual-entry)) (manual-entry (concat manpage -l)) (manual-entry manpage -l With my cursor on an interesting line in that manlist.txt file now, I can type M-x man-locally-at-point, and instantly have the man page in view. For browsing man pages that are part of a source package, here's what I do: (defun dired-man-locally () (interactive) (if (= 1 (function-max-args #'manual-entry)) (manual-entry (concat (dired-get-filename) -l)) (manual-entry (dired-get-filename) -l))) (add-hook 'dired-setup-keys-hook #'(lambda () (define-key dired-mode-map [(?l)] #'dired-man-locally))) Now the l key in dired mode invokes `dired-man-locally'. Footnotes: [1] If you don't know what that did, here's a hint. F1-k invokes `describe-key-binding', F1-f invokes `describe-function', and F1-a invokes `apropos'. [2] The -q here is for quiet, not quick. It suppresses the spinners and updating percentage transfered, which doesn't work right in the emacs shell mode. I don't know why apt-get doesn't just check the term settings to see if it can do that. [3] This is compatible with both GNU Emacs and XEmacs.
Debian Potato -- Woody on a reiserfs + devfs micro-HOWTO
Here's how I installed a Debian Woody workstation that's got a Reiserfs filesystem. Wow! It makes `dpkg' a lot quicker, at least subjectively. (Though other factors may be involved; it is a snappier machine than the one I use at home. YMMV) The Debian potato installer does not support Reiserfs... (yet. Have no fear. The next installer promises to be a *lot* better than the previous somewhat prototypical installers. You can view it via cvs.debian.org and the debian-boot mailing list if you are curious.) I partitioned the single hard drive with a smallish /boot (hda1) (room for several kernels and maybe, later on, GRUB), two 127 Mb swap partitions, and the rest of the drive free. I marked one of the swaps as type Linux Swap and the other as type Linux (for now). Then I installed a very minimal potato, with / on the spare swap partition, and /boot mounted second. If you select the simple package selection method, and don't check off any packages, the entire base system will fit in the 127Mb with plenty of room to spare. After it was installed, rebooted and initial configuration completed, I logged into a co-worker's workstation, grabbed kernel source and the reiserfs patch, built a kernel and modules, then used `ncftp' to transfer them to my workstation. If you look in the kernel toplevel Makefile, you'll find a variable that tells it where to stage the modules during make modules_install. I used that and created a tarball of them to transfer. The Debian kernel packager deb would have done fine; then I could have installed that kernel as a deb. (but the co-worker runs another distro, currently). While that was going on, I had `apt-get dist-upgrade' running, bringing the workstation forward to current Woody. I fixed up /etc/lilo.conf, and used `apt-get' to install the reiserfsprogs and devfsd, then turned the free partition into a `-v 2' reiserfs. Now I ran `lilo', and rebooted to the original configuration, this time with a kernel that's got reiserfs support built into it, so that I could mount the reiserfs I had created. (I could just as easily have delayed mkreiserfs until this point.) I mounted the reiserfs partition on /mnt/tmp, and then did `ls /' to get a view of what needed copying... I used mkdir to create all of the mountpoints (ones not to `cp -a', like /mnt/tmp/proc and /mnt/tmp/mnt), and then `cp -a' to copy each of the directories (/etc, /usr, /home, ...). On that machine, /mnt/tmp/dev is a mountpoint, since I've enabled devfs[1], and thus did not copy /dev over. Since GNU `cp -a' will preserve timestamps and hardlinks and will copy special files also, it's just as good as `tar' or `cpio' for this purpose. (bragThe BusyBox `cp -a' ought to work correctly also, thanks to yours truely./brag) The final steps where fixing /etc/lilo.conf, checking to make sure everything is set up right in /etc/fstab (pointing it to the new / partition --- the reiserfs), setting fsckfix to yes in /etc/default/rcS (hindsight; I just learned this last night) so that it doesn't hang at boot with a question from `fsck.reiserfs', running `lilo', and then rebooting to the new ready to implement and configure workstation. The first thing I did was run `fdisk' to change the partition type of the stepping stone ext2 / from Linux to Linux Swap, ran `mkswap' on it, added it to /etc/fstab, then did a `swapon'. I think it is usually safe to use `fdisk' like that provided you don't change the partition sizes; just change the partition type. (NO WARRANTEE) Footnotes: [1] Make sure you read the kernel-source/Documentation/filesystems/devfs/README if you plan to use devfs. There is some very important information there. Also, for you Debian users, please note that the libc6.deb:/etc/init.d/devpts.sh has (had?) incorrect logic and breaks things (not disastrous; don't panic) with devfs. The grep statements are incorrect. I have submitted a bug report. You are not supposed to mount the devpts when devfs is mounted, since devfs handles the devpts for you in 2.4.0 kernels. (gathered from the README) If you do mount it, you will experience problems with things that need to allocate a pty -- eg: `gnome-terminal -e screen' will fail with devpts mounted on a devfs. -- mailto: Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~karlheg/ ( -- These are full-on slotskis. -- ) This is only a semi-colon -- ;
Re: Scsh (Was: Re: My orphaned packages.)
Daniel == Daniel Kobras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel On 11 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Daniel == Daniel Kobras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel On 10 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it. I've not even looked at it in over a year. Daniel If nobody objects I'd like to do this together with Martin Daniel Gasbichler who wrote a fair part of scsh 0.6. But me Daniel having just applied for Debian maintainership this will Daniel take some time... I also have an adoption offer from Georg Bauer (Cc'd), who I responded to on the attached message, telling him that if he contacts the new maintainer team and has a working `scsh' package, he can have it. Since you are teaming with Martin Gasbichler, and since Martin is a co-author of Scsh, I'd say that puts you two in as most qualified to handle the package. (Daniel? Please forward this mail to Martin.) Perhaps the three of you could team? What do you all think? Daniel Sounds good to me. Martin is on vacation for a couple of days but I'm sure Daniel we can work out a scheme everyone's confident with as soon as he's Daniel back. The big problem IMHO however being that neither of us is registered Daniel as a developer so far. I'd be happy to work on debs for a recent version Daniel of scsh but we'd really need some maintainer to adopt the package until my Daniel appliance gets through. Georg Bauer wrote back saying that he thinks you and Martin are more qualified, and thus should maintain the Scsh package. What stage of the new maintainer process are you in? Do you have working packages of Scsh done yet? Perhaps I can look them over and upload them for you.
Scsh (Was: Re: My orphaned packages.)
Daniel == Daniel Kobras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel On 10 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it. I've not even looked at it in over a year. Daniel If nobody objects I'd like to do this together with Martin Daniel Gasbichler who wrote a fair part of scsh 0.6. But me Daniel having just applied for Debian maintainership this will Daniel take some time... I also have an adoption offer from Georg Bauer (Cc'd), who I responded to on the attached message, telling him that if he contacts the new maintainer team and has a working `scsh' package, he can have it. Since you are teaming with Martin Gasbichler, and since Martin is a co-author of Scsh, I'd say that puts you two in as most qualified to handle the package. (Daniel? Please forward this mail to Martin.) Perhaps the three of you could team? What do you all think? 8---8 From: Georg Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug#71265: Documentation for scsh not in /usr/share/doc To: Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED], gb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:26:42 +0200 Hi! On 10 Sep 2000 11:26:13 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) wrote: Ok. I sure wish someone would take over `scsh'. I've not got time for it anymore. I am not a debian developer currently, but I would step up if some maintainer is needed. scsh is quite cool and I once created my own package for it (yours wasn't available at that time). I am not that new on debian packages, as I have my own repository for (mostly hack) packages for my own use (http://www.gws-online.de/download/), so I think I could handle it. I didn't keep up with debian developments in the political area, so I am not quite sure about what would be needed to be done be me to step up, but your best way out might be to help me in ;-)
My orphaned packages.
[ CC me in replies; I am not subscribed right now. ] I do not have time anymore to work on the packages I once maintained for Debian. I'm sorry that I did not properly orphan them. I just don't have time for it. My health is most important, followed by studies. I cannot live in a chair anymore, and I have to spend my computer time working on homework assignments and reading. `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it. I've not even looked at it in over a year. I've got some work begun on packaging XEmacs-21.2. It should be looked over by anyone interested in continuing it. Perhaps after college I will take up some packages again. Time to go for a run, then hook on down to the gym for a workout. (Pre-vailing.)
Re: apt-get new helixcode gnome
Rogerio == Rogerio Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rogerio On Jun 04 2000, David S. Bateman wrote: Just out of curiosity, does Helix add anything to Gnome or is it just an easy install? I went to the website and looked at the screenshots and it looks pretty much like what i'm running now. (gdm,enlightenment,Gnome) RogerioHelix Gnome is more or less a specially canned version of RogerioGnome, with some cute applets and things that end users like Rogerio(like loads and loads of themes). RogerioIf you run just a vanilla X with a window manager, you might Rogeriowant to try it. But if you already use GNOME (or KDE for that Rogeriomatter), then I don't think that it's worth the trouble. RogerioIn other words, keep what you've got. I disagree! Helix Gnome is *way* better than the old Debian Gnome packages were. It's worth the upgrade!
Re: How to start Gnome
MH == MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MH Not my understanding... It's an executable script like MH /etc/X11/Xsession. Try chmod -x .xsession for yourself. MH Then see if what you put in .xsession gets used. MH It's getting used anyway... MH But that's not the interesting point (it seems /etc/X11/Xsession deals with MH both possibilities), so MH in Debian xinit - e.g. through startx - looks for ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession and MH the display-managers (xdm and ?) only for .xsession, is this right? UTFS
Libré Software universities? (USA or Canada)
I cannot get into a CS course at PCC.edu because it is to be taught with Micro$oft C++ on the Windows platform, and they don't think GCC is a suitable alternative.[1] The instructor is an aging man who's really paunchy and out of condition (like, get OUT of the chair once in a while) who's got carpal tunnel only on the mouse hand. I think I'll stay there for Summer term since I'm already signed up and have tuition grants coming... but I will change colleges starting Fall term for sure. If they don't take Freed Software seriously enough to allow its use for completion of coursework in CS courses, then to hell with them - they've got their head up their butts. Are there any good inexpensive community or state colleges out there that will allow us to use our freed toolset for the coursework? I hope that PDX.edu will let me use GCC. We'll see what they say next fall. If they don't, I won't be here very long. Footnotes: [1] `suitable'... hahah. I'll never wear one in my life anyway. Form follows function. Never see me in a tie. Nor using non-liberated software for much more than a look-it-over for an example of an interface. -- A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) irc: nick karlheg on irc.debian.org
Re: Using gnuserv (Re: bigots - was Emacs - was Mail/news software)
jsja == john s jacobs anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Peter == Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jsja Oh, no, I agree -- that's why I tend toward vi in those jsja situations. However, over the weekend I've been playing with jsja gnuserv/gnuclient in XEmacs, and I'm getting towards liking it. jsja Okay, that could work -- but I'm too forgetful to remember if there's jsja already an XEmacs process running -- anybody have a shell script that jsja will execute the following pseudocode? jsja if there's an XEmacs process running jsja `gnuclient -q $1` jsja else jsja `xemacs -nw $1` `fuser' is in the `psmisc' package. xg Description: Binary data
Re: Using gnuserv (Re: bigots - was Emacs - was Mail/news software)
Carel == Carel Fellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carel And to really speed up things, you could even use the -vanilla flag Carel next to -nw to tell xemacs to forget about all those nifty packages Carel that take all this time to load. Better to let it load it all up... have a sip of coffee and think about what edits you are going to make or something. Once it's running, using `gnuclient' is instant. `XG_INITIAL_XEMACS_ARGS=-unmapped xg' -- panel launcher button ;; `.emacs' (or .xemacs/init.el if you're set up that way) (when (member -unmapped command-line-args) (add-hook 'gnuserv-init-hook #'(lambda () (popup-dialog-box '(XEmacs is ready [Ok nil]) # .profile export EDITOR=xg xg Description: Binary data
Getting docs in the emacsen, running subprocesses (Was: Re: [*] buffer of Emacs)
maths == maths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: maths i am a newbie of Emacs. i had learned the toturial, and now reading maths the info page, but its too long. could someone tell me what's run maths a program in Emacs's buffer and how to do it ? `M-x shell' Learn to use the `apropos' and `info'. `F1 a regexp' finds documentation of emacs lisp functions and commands that match the regexp. Try: `F1 a process' `F1 a shell' `F1 a comint' You can run `cmulisp' under XEmacs (and GNU Emacs iff `ilisp' is installed) also. `M-x load-library ilisp' then `M-x cmulisp' OR if that fails, try `C-u M-x ilisp', use the defaults at most of the prompts, but for the lisp program, tell it lisp -lazy. Every mode has documentation available on `F1 m'. There is a Maxima (a computer algebra system) package in incoming right now, and I've got a simple mode for running in from XEmacs. If you like, I'll mail a copy of it to whoever wants it. -- A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) irc: nick karlheg on irc.debian.org
xg - Use `gnuclient' for quick edits. (Was: Re: bigots - was Emacs - was Mail/news software)
Peter == Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Peter Felix Natter wrote: john s jacobs anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I'm with you -- I'll often use vi for small edits, even if I have XEmacs open on another desktop, just because doing the edit 'in-line' in an xterm fits my work-flow better. Again, it's all about choosing the right tool for the job. you can do emacs -nw (no windowing). Peter Or use gnuserv. I use the attached script as EDITOR, and make sure that xemacs has been told to `gnuserv-start'. `fuser' is part of the `psmisc' package. xg Description: Binary data
/etc/tmac.man.local snippet - `man' output as one long Scroll.
I find it annoying that when I view a man page from either the
emacsen or on a tty, it is broken into pages, when it should really
be one long scroll. If you add the following snippet to your
/etc/tmac.man.local, the `man' pages will no longer be paginated.
For postscript output, it will still be paginated. Make sure you
don't leave any blank lines in the file, or they will show up in the
output.
I've filed a wishlist bug against `man-db', so perhaps this will
become part of our `man' package in the future.
For /etc/tmac.man.local:
88
.\ The following block appends a section to the title header macro.
.\ If we are in `nroff' mode, which is what is used to produce ascii
.\ or latin1 output from a man page source, then turn off hyphenation,
.\ so that in emacs the highlights in man page references don't have
.\ to try and cross lines, and undefine the traps that execute at the
.\ top and bottom of the pages, then print the heading here, since a
.\ trap used to do that. This effectively causes `man' output to
.\ appear all on one long scroll, rather than paginated.
.\
.am TH
.if n \{\
. nh
. wh 0
. wh -1i
. wh -.5i
. an-header
.\}
..
88
I must thanks Dominic Dunlop, who replied to my USENET query about
this, for showing me how to make this work.
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`dired-man-locally' for XEmacs.
If you put the following in your ~/.emacs (or your ~/.xemacs/init.el if you prefer) you'll be able to put the cursor over a man page filename in `dired', and push `l' to display it in the emacs manual viewer. This works for XEmacs. Anyone know a way to make it work with GNU Emacs? If so, please post it. I have two versions of `man.el' installed; one is the default, supplied with XEmacs, and the other is a modified version of the one that ships with GNU Emacs. That is why I test the number of args that `manual-entry' takes. This is really helpful while you are writing a man page. (defun dired-man-locally () (interactive) (if (= 1 (function-max-args #'manual-entry)) (manual-entry (concat (dired-get-filename) -l)) (manual-entry (dired-get-filename) -l))) (add-hook 'dired-setup-keys-hook #'(lambda () (define-key dired-mode-map [(?l)] #'dired-man-locally))) -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Can't compile GTK programs in Slink
Cameron == Cameron Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cameron Whenever I try to compile GTK+ or GTK-- programs, It says it can't find Cameron glib-config.h. I have the rest of the glib headers, so I don't know why Cameron I don't have this one. Anyway, Does anybody know what package that file Cameron would be in? Why not just upgrade to Potato? Do you have a good net connection? -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Successful upgrade to potato, with work...
Ben == Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Most likely this close to release, I'll just add your (paraphrased) notes Ben to the Release Notes for sparc. This should ease other users upgrades Ben (sorry again that you had to be the one to do the trial and error :) I guess most folks who can afford to own a Sparc are probably savvy enough to deal with these problems... What I wonder though is whether the same problems will occur on the i386 platform, where there's likely to be more people who don't have as much (formal) training and experience. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Installation Problem
Joab == Joab Schultheis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joab hde: Quantum Fireball ST3.2A, 3079MB w/81kB Cache, CHS=6256,16,63, UDMA Joab Partition check: Joab hde: [PTBL] [782/128/63] hde1 hde2 , hde5 hde3 ??? Why is it `hde' rather than `hda'? Do you have more than one drive attached? How are they physically configured? -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Please use more descriptive article titles. (Was: Re: Configuration)
Jay == Jay Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jay Im working on getting Samba to run and I came across: It would be helpful if the subject of your message read something more like Samba Configuration, rather than just Configuration. Be more specific, and try to mention something relevant in your title, so that folks who don't read all of the messages will be able to see from the subject line whether it will be interesting to read (or whether they might know the answer to someone's question) or not. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Glimpse (Re: obsolete packages in dselect)
Gary == Gary Hennigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gary If you don't need them then it's generally safe to delete obsolete Gary packages. I have a couple that I keep around because there's no Gary replacement in potato. glimpse for example is obsoleted but there's Gary nothing to substitue for it so I keep it around. I think there's still a `glimpse' package around. Try searching for it with either `apt-cache' or the web interface. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob)
Robert == Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Skipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try to boot from the rescue floppy (downloaded from the http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/ ch-install-methods.en.html#s-file-descs area and written to floppy with rawrite2 in DOS), the install hangs after the following: Robert Did you write the floppy in _real_ DOS or in a DOS-box in Win9x? Robert Every floppy I've written in a DOS-box so far wrote fine but Robert didn't work, so I strongly recommend booting into real DOS (via Robert F8 when Starting Windows 9x...). Have other people exerienced this? (I've never used Windows = 3.1, so I don't know.) -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Linux Telephony is it real?
VEVE == VEVE ROUDY [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VEVE Linux is a great headache that I support for longtime Please go to the university and study computer science (and english), then help us remedy the situation! -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Realtime sched and floppy (Was: Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob))
Richard == Richard Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karl M. Hegbloom Sent: Saturday, 20 May 2000 4:00 PM To: Robert Waldner Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org; Michael Skipper Subject: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob) Have other people exerienced this? (I've never used Windows = 3.1, so I don't know.) Richard It works correctly from the dos box in WIN98 second edition. I wouldn't Richard recommend trying it while you have other application running. Linux has similar trouble under certain conditions. I wrote a little program that will set the scheduling policy and priority of a PID, and used it to set the `esd' (enlightened sound daemon) to Round Robin Scheduling with a high priority, so that the music doesn't skip when I switch virtual desktop screens in `sawmill'. With that setting, burning a floppy image with `dd' produces `boot-floppies' root.bin diskettes that fail the CRC check. Resetting the `esd' scheduling policy to the standard setting, I find that diskette images I burn work fine, given the identical image file and diskette. So if you're using POSIX real-time scheduling, don't use the floppy disk. The floppy won't get all of the timeslices it needs, and will be unreliable. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: HELP!
Mattthew == Mattthew Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mattthew Please tell me how to unsubscribe from all debian lists Mattthew (I am now using another account to access emails, and Mattthew need to get rid!!) Send a message to the the lists's name with -request appended, @lists.debian.org with un prepended to subscribe in the subject, and also please formally complain to the listmaster that the web interface does not allow un - subscription. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: potato boot floppies and FTP/HTTP install
S == S Salman Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
S I recently tried using Corel Linux and Caldera on this one spare
S system I have at work just because I had received free copies of those
S CDs. After trying to get used to these other distributions I decided
S enough was enough and just had to go back to good old Debian.
8-{)
S I'd like to do a ftp/http install of potato on this system since we have
S a fast connection at work. How many boot floppies are required to do
S this kind of ftp/http install ?
There are several `flavors' of i386 boot floppy sets. You might want
to try the `compact' or `idepci' version (see the README in the ftp
archive). With `compact', often the NIC driver for your card will be
built into the kernel, and you'll be able to netfetch both the
drivers and the base system. Both `compact' and `idepci' are a 3
disk set - rescue, root, and drivers. The vanilla kernel is still a
5 disk set.
S And secondly, where can I download these potato boot floppies/images
S from ?
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386
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Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly.
A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Clone of hard drive
Jay == Jay Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jay Is it possible to clone my linux hard drive to an image or to Jay another drive? This way in the event of hard drive failure I Jay can swap drives and be right back up. If it is, how would I Jay go about it? Don't use `dd' - it won't work well if the two drives are not the same size. Partition and format the new drive using the standard tools, then use a `cpio' archive or `cpio' in copythrough mode to clone the filesystem. (RTFM `cpio'.) GNU `cp' or the BusyBox `cp' from the _Potato_ `boot-floppies' will also work, if you use the `-a' switch and are careful not to try and copy `/proc' and other things that shouldn't get copied over. Don't try this with the `boot-floppies' `cp' from before around version 2.2.8 (iirc) or so - it would flatten the filesystem and would not preserve hard links. (does now though - I saw to that.) make-cpio-archive 88 #!/bin/bash find / -print0 | grep --invert-match --extended-regexp --null-data \ --file=/root/make-cpio-archive.exclude-patterns | cpio --create --format=crc --null --reset-access-time --block-size=10 | gzip --best /tmp/system-snapshot_$(date +%Y.%m.%d).cpio.crc.gz 88 make-cpio-archive.exclude-patterns 88 ^/proc/.* ^/tmp/.* ^/lost+found ^/boot/lost+found ^/var/cache/apache/.* ^/var/cache/apt/.*\.deb ^/var/log/.*\.log ^/var/log/\(amanda\|apache\|gdm\|ksymoops\|mailman\|news\|sendfile\|wu-ftpd\)/.* ^/var/log/\(syslog\|smb\|nmb\|messages\|mail\|lpr\|debug\|dmesg\).* ^/var/lock/\.LCK.* ^/var/run/.*\.pid ^/var/run/\(ndc\|utmp\) ^/var/samba/.* \.bash_history \.gnome-errors .*~ /\.saves-.* /\.#.* /\.netscape/cache/.* 88 -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Hard Drive Upgrade
Daniel == Daniel J Kruszyna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel I just recently upgraded the hard drive on my Debian machine (an intel box Daniel running potato), and while everything copied successfully, I could not get Daniel the new hard disk to boot. I then changed my lilo.conf to point to Daniel /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14 instead of the symlink at /vmlinuz, and Daniel everythinig worked fine. Does anyone know what's going on here? How Daniel come lilo doesn't recognize the symlink like it did before? If you Daniel any more information, just let me know. Thanks. Had you run `lilo' on the new drive before you tried to reboot? If not, then what it was is that the kernel isn't at the same block address as it was on the other disk... -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: apt-get, upgrade, /var/cache/apt/archives
I also wonder if you still have a list of the selections held by
`dpkg' in that machine?
`dpkg --get-selections'
`dpkg --set-selections dpkg-selections'
`apt-get dselect-upgrade'
Antonio == Antonio Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Antonio I haven't found any package called dpkg-scanpackages. I searched
the deb
Antonio site, can't find it. can you be more explicit?
Antonio Thanks
% dpkg --search dpkg-scanpackages
diversion by dpkg-multicd from: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages
diversion by dpkg-multicd to: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages.dpkg
dpkg-dev, dpkg-multicd: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages
dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.8.gz
diversion by dpkg-multicd from: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages
diversion by dpkg-multicd to: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages.dpkg
diversion by dpkg-multicd from: /usr/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.8.gz
diversion by dpkg-multicd to: /usr/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.dpkg.8.gz
dpkg-multicd: /usr/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.8.gz
diversion by dpkg-multicd from: /usr/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.8.gz
diversion by dpkg-multicd to: /usr/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.dpkg.8.gz
Here's the script I run to update the Packages files in my partial
mirror. The mirror is in /home/ftp/pub/mirrors/debian, and this
script is run with it's PWD in /home/ftp/pub/mirrors. The
debian-non-US mirror is a sibling of the debian mirror.
#!/bin/sh
pushd debian
dpkg-scanpackages -m 'Debian GNU/Linux binary-i386'
dists/potato/main/binary-i386 indices/override.potato.gz
dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages
dpkg-scanpackages -m 'Debian GNU/Linux binary-i386'
dists/potato/contrib/binary-i386 indices/override.potato.contrib.gz
dists/potato/contrib/binary-i386/Packages
popd
pushd debian-non-US
dpkg-scanpackages -m 'Debian GNU/Linux binary-i386'
dists/potato/non-US/main/binary-i386 indices-non-US/override.potato.gz
dists/potato/non-US/main/binary-i386/Packages
dpkg-scanpackages -m 'Debian GNU/Linux binary-i386'
dists/potato/non-US/contrib/binary-i386
indices-non-US/override.potato.contrib.gz
dists/potato/non-US/contrib/binary-i386/Packages
popd
find . -name 'Packages' -exec gzip -f -9 \{\} \;
--
Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly.
A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Deb. 2.2 setting up loopback/route
Malte == Malte Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Malte i've installed a frozen 2.2 debian and encountered some problems setting Malte up route network loopback. First I found that a nslookup localhost wasn't Malte working. Since no network is attached to the PC i understood that i have to Malte configure loopback/route. Malte I configured the loopback device using ifconfig -lo 127.0.0.1 Have a look in /etc/network/interfaces and at `man ifup'. Look at your /etc/hosts and make sure there's an entry for localhost also. Malte ifconfig told me LOOPBACK DEVICE UP (or so) and a ping Malte 127.0.0.1 worked Malte I think that i have to configure route as well and tried a route add -net 127.0.0.0 or route add -net 127.0.0.1 Malte and got the errormsg SIODTTR (something like it) Malte A cat /proc/net/route showed me no routing at all. Malte System is a Debian 2.2 frozen with a 2.2.14 homebrew Kernel i.e. not the Malte standard 2.2.15 Kernel any more. Will update to 2.2.15 again soon. You don't have to add a route for the lo interface anymore - it's implicit. Malte Could anybody tell me: Where is my mistake? No major mistakes. You came to the right place for help. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: emacs ignores certain commands in .emacs
Johann == Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Johann I like emacs and prefer it to xemacs because of xemac's delete-key and Johann backspace key behaviour which differs between the console and X Johann environments. But I have a few problems which I do not understand. `M-x customize-apropos delete'. If you can't fix it that way, then try `f1 k', press the offending key, find out what it's called, and rebind it in the `term-setup-hook'. Also see my xhypermap.m4 and ext-fkeymap.el in URL:http://master.debian.org/~karlheg/XE-Lisp. 8-8 (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill) (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'iso-accents-mode) ;; For iso-8859-1 keyboarding (German, Spanish, French, etc.) (require 'x-compose) (define-key function-key-map [multi-key] compose-map) ;; Uncomment if you like the binding. éèñ¿¡æß ;; This is the same key you'd use on the console with the ;; x?hypermap.m4 keymap installed. ;; (define-key function-key-map [(control ?.)] compose-map) (add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'turn-on-reftex) ; with AUCTeX LaTeX mode (add-hook 'latex-mode-hook 'turn-on-reftex) ; with Emacs latex mode (gnuserv-start) (add-hook 'python-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) 8-8 Don't set the font lock keywords to the python ones. Font lock mode will do that for you when you visit a Python program. Use `add-hook' rather than `setq' to get a hook function into a hook list variable. If you do `M-x load-library reftex', then `M-x customize-group reftex', I think you'll find that it's a lot simpler than editting .emacs. Did you know about `M-x customize-apropos[Tab][Tab]' ? Many of the settings you want are on the menubar (eg: global font lock mode). Use the name of the item in the menubar as a hint as to what variable you need to set via the `M-x customize' interface. Johann When I start xemacs, everything seems to work. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: making potato cds
Zachary == Zachary Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Zachary does anyone know how to make potato cds? Zachary i found .raw files at debian.bilow.com Zachary i was thinking i could put them on a cd to install potato Zachary what do i need to do to make them into a installable cd? Grab `gcombust'. It's the best one, I think. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: UPS wars: APC vs Tripplite?
Jaye == Jaye Inabnit ke6sls [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jaye I tried them both. I was happier with Triplite... Tho, it too was returned. I Jaye need to leave my box here, some times for days unattended. I have a huge Jaye set of backup batteries that I run all my radio gear from.. I decided there Jaye had to be a product that would use MY batteries and not some little dinkster Jaye battery that will die in 30 minutes. Jaye So far tho, I haven't found a solution other then using a modified sinewave Jaye which can get pretty noisy. For true sine wave, I did find a product for the Jaye off grid folks with a fairly fast optional relay. Tho, they haven't replied Jaye to my tech request. What about one of those things that's for a car cigarette lighter, that has power outlets on it for things like laptops and tv sets? -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)
Jeremy == Jeremy Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeremy Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart) Jeremy This is also something fairly important. We need this as we do a Jeremy lot of mass installs. The best way to do that that I've found so far is to set up a box with two removable hard drive racks, install and _configure_ everything on one drive, then use `cfdisk', `mkswap', and `mke2fs' to partition and format the second drive. Use `cpio' from a script to copy everything from the master drive to the copy, then run the appropriate Lilo command to make that copy bootable. You can then mount it in another machine and it's ready to go. You have to filter some things out when you copy. See below. Another way to do it would be to create a tar archive, useing find | grep -v -f exclude-patterns | cpio, name it `base2_2.tgz' and put it in place on an intranet web server where you can point the Debian installer's netfetch... Then you can install several machines at once over the LAN... in theory. This is just a starter... I have not done this much yet myself, since I don't have extra hardware to work with and really need to spend my time on reading and studies. I have done it from drive to drive using `cpio' to install the filesystem snapshot, but have not done it by naming a tar format archive as base and using the debian-boot installer. It might just work. NFS mounting the server directory where the `cpio' or `tar' archive sits might work fine also. You could burn a bootable CD with the archive on it, and on the bootable's root.bin, have `sfdisk' etc. and a script that automaticly partitions, formats, and installs the archive. It might be simpler to try the netfetch/dbootstrap approach though. You can make a copy of the system like this... it will create a `cpio' archive... substitute `ustar' for `crc' to make a `tar' compatible archive. RTFM's... you're on your own. 88 #!/bin/bash find / -print0 | grep --invert-match --extended-regexp --null-data --file=/root/make-tarball.exclude-patterns | cpio --create --format=crc --null --reset-access-time --block-size=10 | gzip --best /tmp/system-snapshot_$(date +%Y.%m.%d).cpio.crc.gz 88 You may need to tweak this some. (NO WARRANTEE) make-tarball.exclude-patterns 88 ^/proc/.* ^/tmp/.* ^/lost+found ^/boot/lost+found ^/var/cache/apache/.* ^/var/cache/apt/.*\.deb ^/var/log/.*\.log ^/var/log/\(amanda\|apache\|gdm\|ksymoops\|mailman\|news\|sendfile\|wu-ftpd\)/.* ^/var/log/\(syslog\|smb\|nmb\|messages\|mail\|lpr\|debug\|dmesg\).* ^/var/lock/\.LCK.* ^/var/run/.*\.pid ^/var/run/\(ndc\|utmp\) ^/var/samba/.* \.bash_history \.gnome-errors .*~ /\.saves-.* /\.#.* /\.netscape/cache/.* -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
Chris == Chris Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris For mass installs, just make a standard issue CD, boot from that CD, and Chris copy over the OS. Or you could even make a disk image and dd it onto the Chris hard drive. That assumes you have the same hard drive in all the machines. Chris You can turn a 20GB drive into a 10GB drive. :) But even if you have 4 or 5 Chris different hard drives in your organization, using disk images will still Chris save you tons of time. Thats what we do at GE, if somebody has a funky Chris problem with their machine, we don't reinstall Windows and all the apps, we Chris just reimage the hard disk. It's much better to `cfdisk', `mkswap', `mke2fs' the drive, then use `cpio' to copy the filesystems. See my other message for more detail. This works even when the drives are not the same size, and when the partitioning structure is different. You can run the `cpio' across the net too, afaik. (I know it works over NFS.) -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
Steve == Steve Morocho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve I agree, rpm is not a piece of crap. deb packages are a Steve lot harder to create for the novice users. There is not Steve much documentation to help in this area either. Also, when Steve updates are released .debs are usually the last to be Steve released (because someone usually has to hack an .rpm or Steve something similar) When security is an issue, .rpms are Steve usually quicker to be released and thus should never be Steve discounted. It is fast becoming the standard package Steve system in the industry. Point to ponder: Are these really statements of fact, or are they just marketeering claims from press releases? -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Help with the /etc/init.d/network
Ethan == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pardon my ignorance. I had no idea that any mechanism for tracking threads existed other than the subject line. I'll keep that in mind. =20 Incidentally, how exactly does thread tracking work? I assume there is a header of some kind. Maybe I'll hack it out. Interesting. Ethan most non-broken mailers include a reference header, i see you use MS Ethan Worm+Virus Develop... er Outlook. i am quite impressed they actually Ethan bothered to implement this feature correctly... Is that what does all that weird line splitting with the equal signs and stuff? -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: PCI 128...
David == David Henningsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Okay, so I continue to try to get my PCI128 working. I had trouble with the kernel drivers for the PCI128. I tried the `alsa' modules from Debian, and those did not work either. I ended up useing CVS to get the latest `alsa' drivers from the developers, and after following the instructions to build and install them, it works fairly well now. See if you can figure out how to that... search for alsa on the net, and follow the clickers... It may well be that the latest version of the alsa modules in Woody (unstable) will function fine. I have not tried them lately. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: x-server for ATI Rage Fury?
Ned == Ned Harkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ned I just purchased and installed Debian and there are no x-servers listed Ned that are compatible with my Rage Fury 32Mb AGP video card. Is it Ned possible to install the compatible x-server from another distribution Ned into debian? If so, how would I go about doing this? Perhaps the `xserver-rage128' will work? -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Maxima on debian
I believe there is a Maxima package now, either in Woody or in the works. I have one installed that I grabbed out of `incoming' one day... Package: maxima Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: math Installed-Size: 10640 Maintainer: Camm Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 5.4-1 Depends: wish Description: A fairly complete computer algebra system. This system MAXIMA is a COMMON LISP implementation due to William F. Schelter, and is based on the original implementation of Macsyma at MIT, as distributed by the Department of Energy. I now have permission from DOE to make derivative copies, and in particular to distribute it under the GNU public license. You might also like to have: export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs/emacsen cvs login empty password cvs -z3 checkout maxima ... an XEmacs mode for Maxima that I cobbled together from peices of the original maxima-mode. (It might work with GNU Emacs also - It's untested there.) It will probably become part of the Debian package at some point. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: GDM and 16bpp in X
Kelly == Kelly Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kelly I can get 16 bit color working with xdm as listed in the HowTo, but Kelly after switching to GDM, I can't figure out how to do it. I wan't it to Kelly be a centralized fix, not user specific. If anyone has an idea, please Kelly let me know. Thanks In your /etc/X11/XF86Config file, insert: DefaultColorDepth 16 into the top of the Screen section for the driver you use. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: laptop booting potato
cls--colo == cls--colo spgs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cls--colo i'm just upgrading my slink lapbox to potato (on the cls--colo 2.0.36 kernel). my boot hangs at scsi. cls--colo i copied a scsi-free kernel into /boot. but it still cls--colo tries to boot the scsi kernel and then hangs. cls--colo i renamed /boot/linux to /boot/vmlinux-2.0.36, the name cls--colo of the kernel that i had been using. ...still no go. cls--colo q: where might i find the kernel that comes with cls--colo potato?--what directory is it in? Look in /etc/lilo.conf, and see that it's got something like: image=/vmlinuz label=Linux ... ... and that there's a symlink in / something like: /vmlinuz - /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.XX OR... the image line can point to /boot/vmlinuz, and the analagous symlink can be in /boot. Then run `lilo' once, and reboot. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: The /source of the problem...or is that the /src?
montefin == montefin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: montefin But*, one tiny, core question remains. Which is it: /usr/src, montefin /usr/local/source, /usr/local/src? montefin Some docs and HOWTO's say to build Linux in /usr/local/source; some montefin mail, even from this list, mentions /usr/local/src; make-kpkg, I montefin believe, builds into /usr/src. Sweet 'apt-get --configure source' will montefin build where ever I happen to be at the moment. The `kernel-source' packages will put the kernel sources in /usr/src/. /usr/src is mainly for dpkg use, I guess. For your own system-wide use, you might like to use /usr/local/src/subdir for stuff... cd /usr/local/src mkdir pkgname cd pkgname apt-get source pkgname By putting it in a subdir like that, when you `debian/rules binary' the package, it will write the .deb in a subdir, rather than out in the /usr/local/src. I find that organization more convienient. I use the /usr/local/src area for that sort of thing, for CVS checkouts, and for my own projects. But I'm the only one using this workstation. On a multi-user machine, you might want to create per-user directories up in /usr/local/src/user, OR just let them work from inside their $HOME/src directory. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
[humor] opensource.microsoft.com
I was just reading /. and a strange idea struck me... Have you ever seen that Unix utils joke where you type in `ar god' and it says god does not exist? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ % host opensource.microsoft.com opensource.microsoft.com does not exist, try again Exit Status: [0] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ % host cvs.microsoft.com cvs.microsoft.com does not exist, try again Exit Status: [0] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ % host microsoft.org at this point it hangs for several seconds, as though dumbstruck microsoft.org A record not found, server failure Exit Status: [0] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ % -- Those who do not study Linux are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Wordinspect and the Mini-Commander
I just discovered a really neat thing and thought I'd share it with yous. There's a GTK+ `dict' client called `wordinspect'. I've got the `mini-commander' applet running in the gnome panel, and it lets you set up macros. I defined: ? to `(wordinspect --define '$1' wait)' ... and now I can type `?tree' in the box, and the definition pops up. Neato! -- Those who do not study Trees are doomed to live in them - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Maxima on debian
Boris == Boris Veytsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) Date: 17 May 2000 22:25:14 -0700 I believe there is a Maxima package now, either in Woody or in the works. I have one installed that I grabbed out of `incoming' one day... Boris Interesting. Does it work well? Here are some problems with the Maxima Boris I compiled. I wrote a letter to Schetler, but he did not respond :((( It works pretty well, so far. I've just signed up for math 112, so have not learned the mathematics that I'll eventually need Maxima for yet. Boris 2. Is it possible to enable readline in gcl and maxima? It would be Borisgreat to use arrows to edit the command line and use history. Why not just run it under XEmacs or GNU Emacs? I've updated the maxima-mode.el that ships with Maxima. You can have a copy if you like. Mail me for CVS instructions. Other interesting things like it are: jacal and TeXmacs. TeXmacs is a WYSIWYG editor for TeX that's going to be an interface to computer algebra systems. It has Guile embedded as a scripting language. Right now it's using a GUI toolkit written by it's author, but he says that he plans to eventually make it use Guile-GTK instead. It would be interesting to tie that to jacal (or something like it and Maxima, but better, written with Guile's new Goops object system) and a reinterfaced GeomView. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Help with the /etc/init.d/network
A == A Scott White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Ethan Benson wrote: that is because outlook is broken and does not understand RFC2015. A What Linux MUA should I use. I'd like one that has a complete feature set A and doesn't rely on X (I don't like X). Gnus in XEmacs is the best there is. Use `nnml' for mail with the `fancy' splitting. RTFM. It's well worth the effort to get it configured. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: MUAs (was Re: Help with the /etc/init.d/network)
Ethan == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ethan the only MUA for *nix that includes an MTA is bloatscape Ethan communicator. It's better to install a MTA, like `exim', `postfix', or `sendmail'. You can set it up so it doesn't accept connections from the net if you like. I didn't like Netscrape for mail - it word wraps in the wrong places and to put mail in separate folders you've either got to monkey around with `procmail' or endlessly drag and drop from Inbox to your sort folders. Go with `gnus' if you've got a lot of mail, and with `vm' if you've got not too much. Both work very well in XEmacs, the finest text editor on the planet. (soon to have gtk widgetry!) -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)
Craig == Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example, I have 20 machines at a co location I need to go install. Right now with Red Hat I can take my laptop, slap a floppy in each machine, turn 'em on, 5 minutes later I have 20 fully configured machines ready to rock. Craig you can do the same thing with debian...just install the nfs server Craig package on your laptop. I think that with `Woody' we'll have something as good as or better than KickStart. Read up on `debconf', and think about what I said about creating a custom Debian `baseX_X.tgz'. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: XF86, maxima, gnome binaries
Maxima is packaged for Woody. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: remapping M$ windows key to act as meta under console emacs (like X)
Britton == Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Britton I notice that under X, emacs now uses the little window key as a meta, Britton while doing something totally other with Alt. This is fine, but I like to Britton use emacs from the console, and there Alt is still needed. I don't think Britton it's a good idea to have emacs requiring different keystrokes depending on Britton where is is run. Anyone know the best way to make things Britton consistent? Should this perhaps be changed in the package? You have to change key keymaps with the `loadkeys' for the console or with `xmodmap' for X. I've created a console keymap for use with XEmacs that you might like to try. Look in: URL:http://master.debian.org/~karlheg/XE-Lisp ... for xhypermap.m4 and ext-fkeymap.el. If you don't like how I've got the change vt keys mapped, then you can modify the .m4 file to suit yourself. I based it on the hypermap.m4 that's part of `console-tools'. -- Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly. A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Re: gnome-session + .Xclients, stopped working
I think the best solution would be to, rather than trying to use .XClients, .xsession, or .gnomerc, to get rid of those, put a script in ~/bin, and use the Gnome configuration tool to make that script be a startup program.
Re: Cannot mail out of debian
Russ == Russ Pitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ May 13 15:31:58 arjay kernel: Packet log: output DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 Russ 203.31.178.49:1038 203.31.178.14:110 L=60 S=0x00 I=99 F=0x T=64 Russ SYN (#2) Install `gfcc' (Gnome Firewall Control Center), and rebuild your firewall setup using that. You can have it export the rules to a shell script, then do: # cd /etc/rcS.d # ln -s ../gfcc/rules/scriptname.sh S43scriptname.sh ... so that it's loaded when you reboot. Make sure that in your configuration that S43 is the right place to make that symlink. There's a pretty decent starting point rule set included with `gfcc'.
Re: small problem after installing 2.2.15 kernel
Pollywog == Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pollywog I installed the 2.2.15 kernel and now I get this in my logs: Pollywog May 14 06:07:08 lilypad kernel: cat uses obsolete /proc/pci interface Go to kernelnotes.org, and have a look at: URL:http://kernelnotes.org/change22.html ... under PCI utils. There's a Debian package, more likely than not.
Re: modprobe failed: no /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0
David == David Karlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I have installed potato on an old machine. I'm trying to reconfigure David the modules so that the ethernet card will work. When I run depmod, David I get the following message: David depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/modules.dep for writing David So I do cd /lib/modules and ls and get: David 2.2.15 David unmame -a tells me that I'm running 2.2.14-5.0. David I don't understand why I have /lib/modules/2.2.15, and not David /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0, although it explains why when I do David modprobe ne io=0x300 I get: David modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/modules.dep (No such file or directory) David I tried ln -s 2.2.15 2.2.14-5.0 and reran modprobe ne io=0x300 and David get a bunch of unresolved symbol messages David Anyone have a clue on this? The modules for the kernel you are running are apparentl *not* installed. You get the unresolved symbol errors because the modules that are there do not correctly match the running kernel. Did you build the kernel yourself? If so, then go back to the kernel-source directory, and run: # make modules make modules_install Make sure you remove that symlink you made *first*, then run the `depmod -a' again, and see if everything just works after that. -- I am karlheg of deB-ORG. You will be freed. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) Portland, OR USA Debian GNU Potato Linux 2.2 AMD K6-200(@233) XEmacs-21.2beta
Re: fdisk problem
I've found that I get best results when IÂ set the disk, in the BIOS, to standard translation, rather than to LBA or Large. -- I am karlheg of deB-ORG. You will be freed. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) Portland, OR USA Debian GNU Potato Linux 2.2 AMD K6-200(@233) XEmacs-21.2beta
Re: fdisk problem
PS : I should add that I've not an awful lot of experience installing Debian, since I don't have hardware to experiment with. I've only installed on three or four different computers. (quite a few times, but only on those few machines.)
Re: Setting up X
Kent == Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kent How have you tried to set up X? Did you use xf86config, or Kent XF86Setup? Try using the other tool; sometimes one will give better Kent results than the other one. `anXious' from the `xviddetect' package works very well also. It will even download missing packages for you with `apt-get'.
Re: How to change log rotation schedule
Paul == Paul McHale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul I would like for /var/log/mail.* to rotate daily instead of weekly. When I Paul use syslogd-listfiles, it verifies mail.* is configured to rotate weekly. I Paul checked the syslogd script in /etc/cron.daily and /etc/cron.weekly. They Paul are all running as the they should calling savelog according to Paul configuration. Paul How do I change configuration to rotate mail.* daily? If there is a Paul configuration file, I can't find the rascal anywhere. A book mentioned Paul /etc/logrotate.d, but I think this only applies to Caldera. I would assume Paul debian has a similar file ... `logrotate' (from Red Hat Software)Â is packaged in Potato, but is not used by everything yet. (Grep the list archives on debian-policy and debian-devel for it if you're interested in how the discussion about that went.) You can install it, RTFM (and RTFS if you feel like it), then use it to customize your log rotation setup. It works very well.
Re: What is the diff. b/w libstdc++ and libg++ ?
Graeme == Graeme Mathieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Graeme If you want to search for the package that a file belongs to, find Graeme /debian/dists/potato/Contents-i386.gz and zgrep for particular files. `dpkg-awk' works pretty good, and so does `apt-cache', for finding things. I also like to use the web search interface at www.debian.org, under the Packages clicker.
Re: Debian over Caldera
John == John Plummer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John Would like to install Debian in place of Caldera on a PC
John currently dual booting NT and Caldera.
Hey! Great idea! 8-{)
John Caldera installed cleanly, including seeing the cable modem,
John except for configuring the printer. But is doesn't seem to
John have the 'open', non-commercial mindset that Debian has.
John Installing other software packages has incurred problems for
John which a support maillist like this wasn't found.
Probably costs $80/hr to talk to some kid at Caldera on the phone
too. Though I'd like to have a little money now and then for what I
do for Debian, I can't see it being worth *that* much... (Someone
else besides the kid on the phone probalby gets most of the $80...)
John The question then is what is the easiest way to install
John Debian over the Caldera?
The best way as I see it would be to create tar archives of your
personal files and any configurations you've put much work into, then
go ahead and install Debian Potato after re-initializing (wipe it
clean) the disk partition. After it's installed, you can restore
your home directory, CVSROOT, and whatever else you tarchived.
Trying to install over another Linux distro without clearing the
partition first like that is too iffy - it would likely leave cruft
behind, and the file system layout may differ in wierd unpredictable
ways, leading to lots of trouble later on.
Back it up, blow it away, and `dbootstrap' it!
--
I am karlheg of deB-ORG. You will be freed.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Portland, OR USA
Debian GNU Potato Linux 2.2 AMD K6-200(@233) XEmacs-21.2beta
Re: Mouse Configuration
Jay == Jay Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jay Anyone have any idea;s what would keep my mouse from woring Jay in X Windows. Its a PS2 Kensington mouse. I cant seem to get Jay it to work. Is it compatible with Debian? Likely - It's /dev/psaux. -- I am karlheg of deB-ORG. You will be freed. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) Portland, OR USA Debian GNU Potato Linux 2.2 AMD K6-200(@233) XEmacs-21.2beta
[Kevin Cosgrove kevinc@dOink.COM] [PLUG] FW: humor?? UNIX - Not a virus.....
Gotcha all! Delete your old .deb's and upgrade, you Rats! Bwahhaha! haha! --- Start of forwarded message --- Date: Fri May 12 22:52:55 2000 From: Kevin Cosgrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PLUG] FW: humor?? UNIX - Not a virus. Topics: [PLUG] FW: humor?? UNIX - Not a virus. -- Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:09:35 -0700 From: Kevin Cosgrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PLUG] FW: humor?? UNIX - Not a virus. Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text - -- Forwarded Message This is a virus that works on the honor system: For those Unix Linux fanatics who're feeling left out, please forward this message to everyone you know and delete a bunch of your files at random. - -- End of Forwarded Message -- End of forwardMwEqws Digest *** --- End of forwarded message ---
Re: Promise Ultra 66
Ray == Ray J.H.M. writes: Ray On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 21:32:35 -0800, Brian Lavender wrote: but it just flashes the characters 2FA: Ray That's from the Master Boot Record program. I also tried booting with a floppy with IDE support, but it won't detect it either. Ray The bootfloppies for Slink don't handle UDMA66. You need to use bootfloppies Ray with a kernel on them that's patched for UDMA66 support (using the IDE Ray patches from ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/). I'm not sure Ray if potato's bootfloppies (will) support UDMA66. Oh, so _that_ is what the ide kernel is for. I wish the long description in the package would at least describe what it's for... Should we create another flavor ide?
Re: Promise Ultra 66
Adam == Adam Di Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes: The bootfloppies for Slink don't handle UDMA66. You need to use bootfloppies with a kernel on them that's patched for UDMA66 support (using the IDE patches from ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/). I'm not sure if potato's bootfloppies (will) support UDMA66. Oh, so _that_ is what the ide kernel is for. I wish the long description in the package would at least describe what it's for... Should we create another flavor ide? Adam Yes -- tausq is working on a no-scsi flavor and the ide flavor. We Adam already have the kernel and pcmcia modules in potato for the ide patch Adam flavor. Randolph had a good name for it... I think maybe the name was Adam -idepatch or -udma66. I like `-udma66', unless of course the kernel-image*ide gets a decent description added to the control file. I leave this to Tausq. Adam So hopefully we will have this ready soon. Great news.
Re: Why no package seems to take care of the new /dev/console device?
Filip == Filip Van Raemdonck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Filip Just a question... what are the correct permissions for
Filip /dev/console? I found it to be 622 on my system... these
Filip look rather unusual to me, at least.
I'm not sure what's correct... Here's what it looks like here.
crw--w--w-1 root tty5, 1 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/console
crw-rw-rw-1 root tty5, 0 Jan 26 14:13 /dev/tty
crw--w--w-1 root root 4, 0 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty0
crw---1 root root 4, 1 Jan 31 03:05 /dev/tty1
crw-rw-rw-1 root tty4, 10 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty10
crw-rw-rw-1 root tty4, 11 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty11
crw-rw-rw-1 root root 4, 12 Jan 31 12:53 /dev/tty12
crw-rw-rw-1 root tty4, 2 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty2
crw-rw-rw-1 root tty4, 3 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty3
crw-rw-rw-1 root tty4, 4 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty4
crw-rw-rw-1 root tty4, 5 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty5
crw-rw-rw-1 root tty4, 6 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty6
crw-rw-rw-1 root root 4, 7 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty7
crw-rw-rw-1 root tty4, 8 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty8
crw-rw-rw-1 root tty4, 9 Jan 26 15:51 /dev/tty9
I think these are wrong. /dev/tty{1,2} have `getty' running on
them right now. /dev/tty12 has output from `syslog-ng'.
According to W. Richard Stevens, in Advanced Programming in the UNIX
Environment, they should be something like `root.tty' `u=rw,g=w,o='.
I don't see why these ought to be world writeable like this. The
`getty' runs as root, writeable for group tty is for `write',
`sendmsg', and `wall'.
I think that the section at the top of `MAKEDEV' where the
permissions are configured ought to be pulled out into a conffile
down in /etc.
Re: Why no package seems to take care of the new /dev/console device?
Shaul == Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shaul Is it simply a matter of rm slink /dev/console and MAKEDEV Shaul the new /dev/console and that is all? What will be the Shaul consequences of doing these rm and MAKEDEDV on a running Shaul system? That's what I did. There's code in MAKEDEV that tests the running kernel version, and does the right thing based on that. I don't think you have to rm the old one first; just run `MAKEDEV console'. Actually, on a formerly `slink' system upgraded to kernel 2.2.x, I think you should run `MAKEDEV generic' once. There are probably other devices it needs to update.
Terminal flow control, noting errors during `apt-get install' (Was: Re: random comments and requests for information)
Ross == Ross Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ross Third, is there a standard way to capture errors? During Ross most of the install things just sail by. Use the terminal flow-control keys to stop and start the output of `dpkg'. `C-s' should stop the output, blocking the `dpkg' when it tries to print anything -- the OS stops it, blocked on IO. `C-q' will start output again. This is a feature of the terminal driver. It works for sure in `xterm', `gnome-terminal', and the Linux console. On the Linux console, the `Scroll-Lock' key will work just as well as `C-s' `C-q'. So, you can stop it, then use `gpm'[1], or the middle mouse button in X, to highlight and paste into a running editor. Footnotes: [1] `gpm' is the general purpose mouse; You can paste from one `Alt-Fn' Linux console to another with it.
/dev/console - Kernel upgrades from 2.0 to 2.2
I was learning (a little) about tty devices, and learned, from `potato' MAKEDEV and the kernel sources, that in 2.0 kernels, /dev/console - /dev/tty0, but in 2.2, /dev/console should be node 5,1. I've been running 2.2 for some time... but until yesterday, my /dev/console was still a symlink to /dev/tty0. I removed it and ran `MAKEDEV console', and now it is corrected. What's up with this? Why wasn't that done for me when I upgraded my kernel? Answering my own question... I didn't use the Debian kernel package to upgrade; so even if it does fix those devices, it wouldn't have been done on my machine. /dev/tty0 and /dev/console have different major device numbers. /dev/tty and /dev/console are both major 5. /dev/tty is the controlling terminal of the current process. I am not sure, but I think that if a process does not have a controlling terminal, that /dev/tty and /dev/console are the same thing... Is that true? /dev/console is always the foreground Linux text console? What is /dev/tty0 now? The manual pages for this stuff are out of date. They do not explain very much about these devices. The only real source of documentation is the kernel source itself; reading that is a major undertaking.
README: Reporting Bugs
We appreciate the bug reports you, as users, submit to the bug tracking system. It helps us improve the software. When you do find a bug, and wish to report it, please: * Use one of the bug reporting tools: `bug' or `reportbug'. You can set your EDITOR environment variable, and it will use your prefered editing tool. It will write in the proper pseudo headers for the BTS to parse, and it will fill in the version number and some dependancy information. All you type is the report itself. This makes things easier for both you and the maintainer(s) who will read the bug report. * !!! Before you submit a bug report, check to see if the bug has already been reported !!! The bugged package's maintainer must do work to merge duplicate bug reports, to fix bugs or apply patches then upload the new release, and to close reports after the bug has been swatted. It eases our labor some if you don't re-report bugs that someone else has already reported... UNLESS you have additional information that you feel we'll need. So PLEASE, go to the Debian web site, at URL:http://www.debian.org, follow the link to the bug tracking system, and use the provided interface to look up bugs on the package. Look for ones that might be the similar thing to what you've found wrong, and read them. If you feel the other reporter did a good enough job, you're done. * If you know how to fix the problem, have the time to do so, and the diff is non-trivial, PLEASE take the time to fix the problem and submit a patch along with your bug report. Your patch should be accompanied by a `ChangeLog' entry or a short paragraph or two itemizing and detailing the modifications. (See: the GNU Coding Standards info documentation for good stuff about ChangeLogs.) Please don't send a patch for the ChangeLog, but send a paste-in of the relevant entry or entries. You will be given credit for the bugfix, and your patch will be forwarded to the upstream author if that is appropriate. Software doesn't just spring into existance into empty *scratch* buffers. It takes time and effort to produce. We appreciate people who help us carry the load. (If you're bored and want something to do, go look up bugs on things, and submit patches... I would be good to check with the maintainer first, to see if it still needs to be done.) Thank you for using and supporting Debian GNU Linux/Hurd! Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maybe I'm out on a limb... I'm hoping that the other maintainers think the similar way; so maybe I speak for Debian, maybe just for myself. You know how that is. Either they'll agree that I'm right or they won't.)
Re: Xemacs
Timothy == Timothy Hospedales [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Timothy So can anyone point me to any online tutorial/manual type Timothy resources which are more comprehensive than the included Timothy tutorial (from help menu) which doesnt even scratch the Timothy surface? There's a Debian package of the `Introduction to Emacs Lisp' that's worth downloading and reading. Some useful commands are `f1 a' (apropos) `f1 f', (describe function) `f1 v' (describe variable), `f1 w' (where is...), and `f1 k' (what does this key do?). If you install the supportel package, you can also do `M-x find-function' or `M-x find-library' to jump to the source. The source to modes is often a good way to learn what the keybindings are... though `f1 m' (describe mode) and `f1 i' are usually quite adequate.
Re: [PLUG] No good to be Root?
James == James [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James I hope this isn't too much of a newbie question, but I James thought I'd get it out of the way. All the manuals I read James suggest to NOT administer Linux as root, but nowhere have I James found the reason why. What is the major problem with James being on your system as root all the time? Everyone James suggests logging in as a normal user. Why? Thanks. Last week, I was resetting ownerships and permissions on some directories on a machine I adminster. I was working as `root', using `dired' in XEmacs. In dired, you can run a shell command on a file or directory the cursor is on by pushing the `!' key, then typing the command in the minibuffer. In that command, `*' expands to the file you had the cursor on, or to the list of marked files, if you've marked a set. `.' expands to $(pwd). I put the cursor on a directory, intending to `chown -R' it to a user's name and group, typed `!', followed by (as if I was working in an xterm or from the console and had done a `cd' into that directory) `chown -R user.group .', when it should have been `chown -R user.group *' or just plain leave off the star... The command was taking a lot longer than I expected... and the directory I ran it on was anchored off `/'. It took the rest of the day (6 hours?) to reset the ownerships and permissions on the filesystem, because it effectively ran `chown -R user.group /', and almost finished before I stopped it. There's about 12Gb of files on this box. (It's very fast SCSI.) Well, I HAD to be root to do that kind of admin work. But as a user, had I been working in my own directories and typed a command like that or worse, it could NOT escape and affect other people's or the system's files, because of *nix file protections. It's a very good thing that one of the default Debian cron.daily jobs makes a listing of the setuid and setgid binaries on the system. (It does this then generates a diff against yesterday, so you can see if things are being changed on you.) I was able to write a simple `awk' command that dumped a command script to fix them all. I've heard that `rpm' keeps a database of the ownership and permission settings of every registered file. It would be nice if `dpkg' would incorporate that functionality someday.
`portmap' won't start. Why?
Jun 18 21:03:06 bittersweet portmap[7548]: svc_run: - select failed: Bad file descriptor Jun 18 21:03:06 bittersweet portmap[7548]: run_svc returned unexpectedly What does this mean? Why won't portmap start? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
wnpp o Removed perl documentaion from works in progress, as the wnpp provided manpages are sufficient. There really needs to be a `perl-info' package, with the Perl TeXinfo docs in it. `cperl-mode' in the emacs editors has the ability to look up perl functions in the info. It's indispensable. Yes, I should `bug' the maintainer... ;-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: netbook and diskless workstations
clashes. Also, the whole /var hierarchy is kept differently to prevent any risk, but that could be optimized perhaps. Note that nfsd and mountd have been replaced by a script which switches off translations, in the style -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 70 Mar 22 12:54 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root32772 Jun 11 1995 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd.notrans -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 70 Mar 22 12:54 /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root45060 Jun 11 1995 /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd.notrans where /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd has the contents #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/env - NAMETRANS= `/usr/bin/env` $0.notrans $* Of course, that could be improved, but is a quick hack to get things work. Enjoy, -- Thomas The author can be contacted under [EMAIL PROTECTED] or snailmail Thomas Schoebel-Theuer Institut fuer Informatik Breitwiesenstr. 20-22 D-70565 Stuttgart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3.1+hamm Linux pre-2.0.31-9+select+QNX AMD K5 PR-133 You tell me and we'll both know.
Re: Xemacs and cperl-mode
Carl == Carl Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carl I have recently been trying to edit some perl scripts using Carl xemacs, so I tried using the cperl-mode instead of Carl perl-mode. Try (require 'cperl-mode) and see if that brings it in. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: root access via telnet?
Michael == Michael Legart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Hi! Is it possible to allow root access via telnet? Edit /etc/securetty and add entries for the /dev/ttypN's that telnet uses. To see what I mean, log on with telnet, and run `w' or `who', and look at the TTY names. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3.1+hamm Linux pre-2.0.31-9+select+QNX AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XFree86 and Threads...
Dale == Dale Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale I was just curious - since libc6 is thread safe, and GUIs Dale seem to be something that can be naturally multithreaded, Dale is XFree86 multithreaded under Linux? (or any other system, Dale for that matter?) Dale I'm about to get a second PPro for my box at home, and I Dale already have SMP at work, so the prospect of a multithreaded Dale X is quite interesting to me. I'm interested too, though it will be a year or so before I can help with any code... ;-) The sources and some documentation for a multi-threaded X-Lib are available for ftp at: ftp://parcftp.xerox.com/pub/mt-xlib/ ... It sure would be a good thing to have! -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3.1+hamm Linux pre-2.0.31-9+select AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Xemacs wont run under SU: `super' will solve your problem.
`super' is a great way to solve this problem. I have this in my /etc/super.tab file: xemacs /root/start-xemacs :staff @localhost @bittersweet.inetarena.com \ setenv=DISPLAY=unix:0 \ setenv=PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/lib/texmf/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games \ password=n \ uid=root gid=root\ info=XEmacs editor as 'root' ... and now I can start an XEmacs that has full root priveledges with: $ super xemacs ... It also works from a window manager or TkDesk menu button. I have found that the syntax of `super's configuration file is *much* easier to understand and use than that of `sudo'. It seems fairly secure as well. You might like to give it a try. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3.1 Linux 2.0.30+parport AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: New Login
Jason == Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason Hi, Does anyone know how to make the login program in bo Jason disable echo sooner? Look at /etc/login.defs. You want to lower the FAIL_DELAY, I think. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3.1+hamm Linux pre-2.0.31-9+select AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Auto Responder
Tony == Tony Koehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tony Does anyone know where I can find or how I go about getting Tony an Auto Responder on a Debian Linux Box? Get `procmail', `smartlist' and the `procmail-lib' packages. If you've got a little shell programming experience, you'll be able to piece together what you want from those with a few days of study. If you use `sendmail', you should make `procmail' your local mailer. I've got a technical support system set up that will autoreply to folks who send mail to it, but only once per day. It sends them a note telling them that support staff will reply within 24hrs. I did it with `smartlist', just to learn how. It's not being used by anyone right now; I don't have a job---I just study. If you are interested enough, and need something like this for your ISP or business, let me know. I can always use a few extra book dollars or a couple of cheeseburgers. ;-) I'm sure I could find the time. You can try the list by sending mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... note that bittersweet isn't on the net 24 hours a day, so it might sit in your out Q for a while. In the normal case, the response would be immediate, of course. Uhhmmm... If you send mail to it, and *dont* get an autoreply, let me know. It may need further debugging. :-) -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3.1+hamm Linux pre-2.0.31-9+select AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SCSI Host Adapter (+ Re: 2 CPU servers)
F == F Potorti Francesco writes: F I am resending this, this time to the mailing list. I suspect F that the list-group gateway is not bidirectional, is that true? F [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Noxon) writes: F If you think going buslogic, the following are very recommended F readings: http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/Quantum.html F http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/BusLogic.html I noticed that there is not a Debian GNU/Linux rescue disk set available on that page. Shouldn't that be remedied? -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3.1+hamm Linux pre-2.0.31-9+select AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ZIP drive
Magossa'nyi == Magossa'nyi A'rpa'd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Magossa'nyi On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, Michael Harnois wrote: Milos Prudek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could someone help me with the installation of parallel version of iomega ZIP under Debian Linux? I do not know where to start... Can you do it from a stock Debian kernel? I'm not sure. I'm doing it under 2.1.51 and it's easy from there ... Magossa'nyi It is easy with 2.0.30 at least. I am not brave Magossa'nyi enough to use more instable kernel than that. All Magossa'nyi you have to do is to compile the module for it, and Magossa'nyi modprobe ppa when you want to use it. You will have Magossa'nyi /dev/sda to mount the disks from. You can get it to be autoloaded by `kerneld' iff you edit the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep file after you `depmod -a`. Attached is a diff; you'll have to hand edit though; I doubt if this will work as a patch. I've found that `ppa' works best as a module, since that way, you can plug the Zip in with the computer already booted, and when the driver is inserted, it gets initialized. Otherwise, with it compiled in, you have to reboot before the computer will see the drive. (Sound is the similar thing. When quake screws up the sound driver, you can unload and reload the module to fix it. Otherwise it takes a reboot.) I'm using 2.0.30 with the `parport' patch and the Curtin ppa driver. It's a lot faster than the stock ppa from 2.0.30. If you look on http://www.linuxhq.org/, you should be able to find the parport patch... I think. This is a bug in `depmod', isn't it??? I reported it once. --- /lib/modules/2.0.30/modules.dep~Thu Jul 24 12:34:18 1997 +++ /lib/modules/2.0.30/modules.dep Thu Jul 24 12:35:36 1997 @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ /lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/nfs.o: -/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/isofs.o: +/lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/isofs.o: /lib/modules/2.0.30/scsi/sr_mod.o /lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/vfat.o: /lib/modules/2.0.30/fs/fat.o @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ /lib/modules/2.0.30/scsi/fdomain.o: -/lib/modules/2.0.30/scsi/ppa.o: /lib/modules/2.0.30/scsi/scsi_mod.o +/lib/modules/2.0.30/scsi/ppa.o: /lib/modules/2.0.30/scsi/sd_mod.o /lib/modules/2.0.30/scsi/sr_mod.o: /lib/modules/2.0.30/scsi/scsi_mod.o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3.1 Linux 2.0.30+parport AMD K5 PR-133
Re: GNUS and Mail
-announce RedHat.Announce #- :0: * ^TOlinux.*kernel Linux.Kernel :0: * ^To.*cc-mode CC-Mode :0: * ^Toshadow-list Shadow :0: * ^TO([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]) PLUG :0: * ^TOprocmail Procmail :0: * ^TOsmartlist Smartlist :0: * ^TOparport Parport #--- # XEmacs mailing lists :0: * ^TOxemacs-beta-discuss XEmacs.Discuss :0: * ^TOxemacs-beta * ! ^Subject.*re: * ^Subject.*patch XEmacs.Patches :0: * ^TOxemacs-beta XEmacs.Beta #-- # Misc. Mailing lists :0: * ^From.*wordsmith.org Wordsmith :0: * ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lfa :0: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] LyX :0: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] GCL #-- # Cron mail from mail run job bringing diald up. :0 * ^Subject.*/bin/echo.*/dev/dialdctl /dev/null #--- # System Accounts :0: * ^From.*Cron.Daemon Cron :0: * ^From.*news.news News :0: * ^Subject.*Returned.mail: Bounce :0: * ^FROM_DAEMON Daemons #-- # Mail from myself and from anyone at Inetarena :0: * ^From.*karlheg Myself :0: * ^From.*inetarena Inetarena mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3 Linux 2.1.36 AMD K5 PR-133
g++ won't compile. How do I fix it?
How do I fix this? What's wrong? bash-2.00$ g++ --help ld: warning: libm.so.5, needed by /usr/lib/libg++.so, may conflict with libm.so.6 /lib/libm.so.5: warning: erfl is not implemented and will always fail /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x36): undefined reference to `main' /lib/libm.so.5: undefined reference to `__getfpucw' mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3 Linux 2.1.36 AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with xauth PAM
Juan Jose Quintela writes: Juan And when I try to launch a window in a remote machine I Juan obtain the following message: Juan ~$ xterm [1] 5939 ~$ Xlib: connection to krilin:0.0 Juan refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect Juan to Server Error: Can't open display: krilin:0.0 You have to make an `xauth' entry for the machine running the program that wants to use the display, on the machine running that program. Read the man for xauth, of course, then do: Here: `xauth list unix:0.0' ... and highlight everything from `MIT' through the end of the line with the near button. Then, in an xterm where you're logged into the other machine, do: `xauth add here:0.0 [PASTE with middle button]' ... and hit enter. That will make an `xauth' entry on the remote machine, so it can authenticate itself for display authorization. The reason it needs authorization is that X Windows programs have the ability to send synthetic events to other programs through the display server. (I'm not an expert, yet; I've got the XBooks pack, but have read only one or two of the documents.) Programs running on separate computers can rendevous through a third machine's Xserver, where you sit, controlling programs on several computers whos displays are in front of you. This means drag-and-drop operations across machines and architectures can be done, and that a subwindow inside an application can be run by a program on the mainframe, while the app runs on your workstation, and things like that. It wouldn't be safe if just anyone could put a window up on your display and watch what you type, or send events to your programs, from anyplace on the global internet, without proper authorization. I think that's all there is wrong. I don't think anything from X uses PAM yet. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3 Linux 2.1.36 AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Off-topic: Making ALT be the META key
David == David R Kohel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Did anyone come up with a solution to this one? Is this David controlled by emacs of X keymapping (or both)? I've found `xkeycaps' to be invaluable for setting X Windows keysyms. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ftp after installing debian 1.3
grewer == grewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: grewer *hmm* seems to me like the ftp in debian 1.3 is buggy or grewer have I forgotten something? `ncftp' is much superiour. Try it instead. (That's if you can download it... I could MIME attach and mail it to you if you like.) -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3 Linux 2.1.36 AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fetchmail problem ...
Richard == Richard G Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard I've tried the two following fetchmailrc files: [] I do a similar thing; but in the ipup script, I do: (su - karlheg -c /usr/bin/fetchmail) ... and in ~/.fetchmailrc, I have: poll mail.inetarena.com # interface ppp0/206.129.216.38 # monitor ppp0 protocol pop3 username MYNAME password MYPASSWD mda formail -s procmail It works very well. I've got a ~/.procmailrc that tosses my mail into several inboxes, which I read with Gnus inside XEmacs-20. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3 Linux 2.1.36 AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rsh authentication ...
Richard == Richard G Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard I have (after some frustration with explicit entries, as Richard well as ALL: ALL) removed hosts.deny and hosts.allow on Richard both machines. The solution is to ditch `inetd' and tcpwrappers, and install `xinetd'. It is *MUCH* easier to configure, and has superiour logging and access control facilities. It should be the SPI standard, not `inetd', IMO. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3 Linux 2.1.36 AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Too many open files: ulimits
Marcelo == Marcelo E Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marcelo Hi, I'm getting this message very often in one of the
Marcelo Debian Linux machines I work with, and I have no clue of
Marcelo where to start looking. It's not coming from the kernel
Marcelo since it's not logged along other kernel messages, but it
Marcelo shows up in the console.
MarceloThe first time I saw it, it came from fortune. But
Marcelo now it's coming from various tex programs, lyx, ldconfig,
Marcelo and others.
Your `ulimit's are too low. Here's what I do, in /etc/profile for
now. (If the user changes shells to non-sh, it won't get run unless,
in the /etc/$shell-init script for that shell, a similar command is
run.) I think this works better than Lshells, or the similar settings
in the `login.defs' file. It will also set ulimits for `sshd' logins.
(sshd has its own internal login, and thus bypasses ulimit settings
for the standard login you'd get with rlogin or telnet.)
Clipped from the top of /etc/profile:
# --
# Set the Limits - this will work for `slogin`s too.
# --
# The format of /etc/ulimits.conf is:
#login_id:core:D:F:L:M:N:S:T:U:V
mylimits=$(grep ^$(whoami) /etc/ulimits.conf)
if [ -z $mylimits ]; then
mylimits=$(grep default /etc/ulimits.conf)
fi
eval $(echo $mylimits | awk -F: \
'{printf(\
ulimit -c %s;\
ulimit -d %s;\
ulimit -f %s;\
ulimit -l %s;\
ulimit -m %s;\
ulimit -n %s;\
ulimit -s %s;\
ulimit -t %s;\
ulimit -u %s;\
ulimit -v %s,\
$2,$3,$4,$5,$6,$7,$8,$9,$10,$11)}')
# clean up a little.
unset mylimits
#---
This is all of /etc/ulimits.conf:
# help ulimit
# ulimit: ulimit [-SHacdflmnpstuv] [limit]
# Ulimit provides control over the resources available to processes
# started by the shell, on systems that allow such control. If an
# option is given, it is interpreted as follows:
# -Suse the `soft' resource limit
# -Huse the `hard' resource limit
# -aall current limits are reported
# -cthe maximum size of core files created
# -dthe maximum size of a process's data segment
# -fthe maximum size of files created by the shell
# -l the maximum size a process may lock into memory
# -mthe maximum resident set size
# -nthe maximum number of open file descriptors
# -pthe pipe buffer size
# -sthe maximum stack size
# -tthe maximum amount of cpu time in seconds
# -uthe maximum number of user processes
# -vthe size of virtual memory
# If LIMIT is given, it is the new value of the specified resource.
# Otherwise, the current value of the specified resource is printed.
# If no option is given, then -f is assumed. Values are in 1024-byte
# increments, except for -t, which is in seconds, -p, which is in
# increments of 512 bytes, and -u, which is an unscaled number of
# processes.
# H so how does that go again?
# 1024 bytes is 1k...
# 1k * 1024 = 1024is 1 Mb60 * 60 = 3600 seconds/hour
# 2048is 2 Mb
# 4096is 4 Mb
# 8192is 8 Mb
# 12288 is 12 Mb
# 16384 is 16 Mb
# 18432 is 18 Mb
# 24576 is 24 Mb
# 32768 is 32 Mb
# The format of this file is:
#login_id:core:D:F:L:M:N:S:T:U:V
default:0:16384:8192:4096:18432:128:8192:3600:32:24576
# More priveledged users:
karlheg:unlimited:unlimited:unlimited:unlimited:unlimited:1024:unlimited:unlimited:unlimited:unlimited
root:unlimited:unlimited:unlimited:unlimited:unlimited:1024:unlimited:unlimited:unlimited:unlimited
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg
Portland, OR USA
Debian GNU 1.3 Linux 2.1.36 AMD K5 PR-133
Re: xemacs with auctex
Mario == Mario Olimpio de Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (require 'tex-site) Mario ^^^ nothing seems to happen with this :( The autoloading isn't working right, I think. You might try reporting it on news:comp.emacs.xemacs. Try: (load-library latex) for the AUCTeX LaTeX mode, and (load-library tex) for its TeX mode. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3 Linux 2.1.36 AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fetchmail, procmail, mail reading, Gnus, XEmacs
Bob == Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob When I try to run fetchmail, my ISP is connected and when Bob attempting to retrieve mail, I get the error message: Bob reading message 1 (2679 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to Bob (null) failed fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while Bob fetching from pop.primenet.com Bob here is my ~/.fetchmailrc file: Bob poll pop.primenet.com proto pop3 user USERNAME pass PASSWORD Try adding an `mda' line to it. Here's what I use: poll mail.provider.com protocol pop3 username myusername password MYPASSWD mda formail -s procmail ... I've got a rudimentary ~/.procmailrc that tosses my mail into spool files in ~/Mail/.incoming/, and I read my mail with XEmacs and Gnus. I used the `nnfolder' setup almost verbatim from the TeXinfo manual, and it works very well. My ~/.gnus looks like this: ;; -*- emacs-lisp -*- (require 'mime-setup) (add-hook 'gnus-group-mode-hook 'gnus-topic-mode) (setq nnfolder-directory ~/Mail/ nnmail-spool-file 'procmail nnmail-procmail-directory ~/Mail/.incoming/ gnus-select-method (quote (nntp news.inetarena.com)) gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnfolder )) nnmail-procmail-suffix gnus-group-line-format %M\%S\%p\%P\%5y: %(%-40,40g%) %6,6~(cut 2)d\n) (add-hook 'gnus-select-group-hook 'gnus-group-set-timestamp) Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] finger or ytalk: http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.3 Linux 2.1.36 AMD K5 PR-133
