Re: virtualisation

[Mark Allums]

On 5/22/2023 2:10 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:

mick.crane wrote:

This is a request for best practice, perceived knowledge.
For one reason and another this PC/Workstation (what is the difference?)
boots in legacy mode. It was something to do with the SS usb port not
booting the installer in EFI mode.
I forget exactly.
Anyway, it's a niggle that it is legacy mode and changing a working system
seems a palaver.
As I have the /home stuff all being/copied onto another disk I thought I'd
reinstall and try to get it tidy.
I thought to try this virtualisation.
Q1. Would openbox be the one to go for?
Things I use work happily on Bookworm but seems openbox is only available in
Sid for now.
Should I try to build openbox or try to get it from Sid if OpenBox is what I
want?
I have purchased 64Gb of this DIMM memory for the experimentation.

Openbox is a window manager.

You probably mean VirtualBox, and the answer is no.


Why is VirtualBox a no?  I use it; it works  fine.



Try KVM/QEMU, which is available via the libvirt tools; the
primary graphical interface is virt-manager, and the primary CLI
is virsh.

-dsr-


Marl Allums

Re: efi problem

[Mark Allums]

On 4/22/23 15:06, mick.crane wrote:

On 2023-04-22 19:05, DdB wrote:

Am 22.04.2023 um 19:30 schrieb mick.crane:

I suspect the GPU is suspect because there are small blocks of pixels
appearing where they aren't wanted.
I'd like to re-install the OS as I've got copies of everything I think.
Just to see if it's maybe a driver issue.
Thing is I can't get the f12 options screen of the PC to let me boot
from a CD in this EFI mode what's grub done.
How can I boot from CD in this EFI mode?

mick




My neighbor has an old laptop without a CD drive. But there is a linux
running (ubuntu). So what i did is this:
i did download (and check) an ISO-file to boot from (debian- or ubuntu-
live versions) and googled for the appropriate stanza for grub to handle
booting from that ISO file. Then i did modify the /etc/grub.d/41_custom
file, to make sure, grub will include that stanza on update-grub
automatically.
But if you only want to boot it only once, you could - on boot, while
seeing the grub menu, enter "c" to open a command line and enter the
necessary commands by hand. (I liked to learn, what grub has to offer
for cases of emergency. Can come in handily, if you - or a friend - gets
stuck on boot.)

BTW: IIRC, grub is able to start an efi-shell, if needed, to force boot
options that way. But my neighbor did not have uefi. Whereas I do, and -
although i am lazy and prefer automation, i had to boot up manually via
UEFI several times.

What i am saying is: it is possible, but not exactly trivial. Learning
is involved and desirable.

Have fun
DdB


It used to be grub thought things were HD0, HD1
and you could decide what to boot from
I have a CD with the debian installer on it that I burnt with the 
xorriso which I'm presuming is a bootable CD but there's no way of 
telling because the EFI thing won't let me select it to boot from


Good grief!  Use etcher or dd to copy it to a USB flash drive. Or put 
the machine in compatibility mode, and bypass the UEFI.


Mark A.

Re: how to limit a CPU temperature?

[Mark Allums]

On 4/8/2023 8:01 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 4/8/23 07:17, songbird wrote:

   i have a program that has changed it's behavior to suddenly
become a CPU hog (while doing something simple like uploading
files for my website).  probably a bug, but it got me to
wondering how i could limit the CPU temperature to a range
well below the maximum that kicks in by the CPU itself.

   i have an intel processor and it has the MAX which does
prevent it from going higher (100C), but i'd like to keep it
at 70C or lower.

   i've been trying to find anything that will let me set this
but no luck yet in my searches.

   thanks!  :)


   songbird



Assuming the computer had a proper thermal solution when assembled, 
the 100 C processor temperature indicates that the thermal paste 
between the processor and its heat sink has gone bad.  I suggest 
replacing it with silver-based thermal paste.


New paste yes, silver no.  That's out-of-date.  Silver is conductive.  
Silver paste is not superior to Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut or Arctic 
(maker of the most popular silver paste) MX-6. You want non-conductive, 
non-capacitive paste.



Mark Allums

Re: does your Thunderbird for deb11 often become unresponsive?

[Mark Allums]

On 3/3/23 12:17, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

On 03.03.2023 09:02, hlyg wrote:
at first i suspect Thunderbird(TB) try to access some sites that are 
blocked in china


i disable show Start Page when it launches

i disable check email automatically for each account

but it becomes unresponsive when i File->New->Message

i really don't know cause of unresponsiveness

PS: even if blocked sites cause trouble, it's bug of TB, it shall 
timeout after it can't access sites for some time

I don't have any issues with TB on a PC with operating system on SSD.
If I had to guess the culprit, it could be a failing HDD.
You should check "/var/log/syslog" for anything suspicious and\or 
"smartctl".
This also could be a symptom of resource starvation. Run "free -h" 
and\or "top" to see if there is any resource hogs.


It's a bug in Thunderbird.  It is the result of using multiple accounts 
and something about multi-threading, I think, (on mine, anyway).  I have 
not filed a bug, but surely they know about it, it's present on both 
Linux and Windows, and through several versions.  I have been patiently 
waiting for a fix, perhaps we should all file bugs, if they are 
inundated with bug reports, maybe they'll be more motivated to fix it.


Mark A.



--
With kindest regards, Alexander.

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⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org
⠈⠳⣄

DM crashes in Sid

[Mark Allums]

Ihave Mate, Gnome Flashback, and XFCE installed.  Today, when starting 
up, all three will start, then exit with extreme prejudice.  Mate was 
doing that before, so, being lazy, I switched to XFCE, and didn't try to 
diagnose and solve and fix. But now all are doing it.  Also, the virtual 
terminals (Alt-Ctrl-F2, etc.) are behaving a bit weirdly, and will not 
show a bash prompt.


Oddly, when I rebooted and started in rescue mode, when I changed to 
user mode via SU, as in su george, I expected that typing startx, I 
might get some error messages.  But X works, and LightDM works, and when 
I logged into Mate, Mate continued to work, when it hadn't been working 
for months.


What do I need to do to discover the problem?  Running Sid.  I recall a 
similar problem for someone else, a segfault-or-other, I think, that I 
seem to recall involved deleting a config file.  If someone that recalls 
that could post a link, it'd be great, or could coach me how to diagnose 
and fix, or at least tell me what to Google for...


Thanks

Mark Allums

Re: I've been caught out

[Mark Allums]

On 1/24/22 05:08, gene heskett wrote:

On Monday, January 24, 2022 5:19:13 AM EST Thomas Schmitt wrote:

Hi,


gene@coyote:~/Debian-arm/linux$ patch -p1  ../patches/*.patch
patch: ../patches/0001-mm-memcg-Disable-threshold-event-handlers-on-
PREEMPT.patch: extra operand


man patch says

patch [options] [originalfile [patchfile]]

With "patchfile" being singular i'd expect that it refuses if you give
more than one.
Further it does not look as if you give an "originalfile", which is
demanded by the common []-bracket around "originalfile [patchfile]".

So what file do you want to change by the patch ?
Does ../patches/*.patch evaluate to a single file ?


No, its a directory with many patches. IMO patch should take them, in
their sorted order, until its out of patches. Or do we have a gui to
oversee that, something like kompare maybe? I'll take a look.


(I get that error if i give three dummy file arguments.
  If i give two i get a lot of "Hunk ... FAILED at .." because my second
file is no properly formatted patch.
  If i give one, the program waits for standard input.)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


Thanks Thomas, stay well now.

.



Cheers, Gene Heskett.



There exist tools for this.  What about quilt?

Mark A.

Re: Firefox: Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead for the USPS.com

[Mark Allums]

Did you click on a phishing link?

Mark Allums



On 1/3/22 16:16, local10 wrote:

Jan 3, 2022, 22:11 by robe...@debian.org:


The site works fine for me.

In FF, click on 'SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN', which should take you to
the full error output.  Then click 'Copy text to clipboard' and paste
the full text into an email.  Someone on the list ought to be able to
help diagnose further from there.



Weird. This is what I get:


Websites prove their identity via certificates. Firefox does not trust this site 
because it uses a certificate that is not valid for tools.usps.com. The certificate 
is only valid for the following names: www.costco.ca <http://www.costco.ca>, 
costco.ca

Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN


https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction_input?origTrackNum=1234567890

Unable to communicate securely with peer: requested domain name does not match 
the server’s certificate.

HTTP Strict Transport Security: false
HTTP Public Key Pinning: false

Certificate chain:

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Re:[solved] Broken libc6 running Sid (multiarch sytem)

[Mark Allums]

On 12/19/21 18:12, Mark Allums wrote:

On 12/19/2021 2:30 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Du, 19 dec 21, 07:24:56, Tim Woodall wrote:

On Sat, 18 Dec 2021, Mark Allums wrote:



Preparing to unpack .../libc6_2.33-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libc6:amd64 (2.33-1) over (2.34-0experimental1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.33-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz', which is
different from other instances of package libc6:amd64


I'd delete that file and try again. (move it to the side if it's
something you might want to consult)


According to my understanding of the manpage it should work with an
added '--force-overwrite'.
Kind regards,
Andrei

Thanks.  I'll try that soonest.  I'll let everybody know.

Mark Allums





It worked, with lots of warnings. I did overlook the option 
--force-overwrite in the man page.  Once I got the main libc6 squared 
away, I ran the interactive Aptitude and let the solver correct the 
other libc6-related packages, and also removed lintian, as I am not a 
package maintainer.  Everything is now cleared up.


I am running Bookworm, with some Sid packages (or Sid with some Bookworm 
packages, if you prefer.) I do occasionally install a new NVIDIA driver 
or kernel from experimental, and I currently have installed gcc-12 for 
the heck of it.  If I depended on this machine for a main system (aka 
production), I of course wouldn't do this.  I installed the new libc6 as 
a lark, but since it is an essential package and since I am not a 
maintainer, I should not have done so.


Thanks Andrei, for your perusal of the man page on my behalf.

Mark Allums

Re: Broken libc6 running Sid (multiarch sytem)

[Mark Allums]

On 12/19/2021 2:30 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Du, 19 dec 21, 07:24:56, Tim Woodall wrote:

On Sat, 18 Dec 2021, Mark Allums wrote:



Preparing to unpack .../libc6_2.33-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libc6:amd64 (2.33-1) over (2.34-0experimental1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.33-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz', which is
different from other instances of package libc6:amd64


I'd delete that file and try again. (move it to the side if it's
something you might want to consult)


According to my understanding of the manpage it should work with an
added '--force-overwrite'.
  
Kind regards,

Andrei

Thanks.  I'll try that soonest.  I'll let everybody know.

Mark Allums

Broken libc6 running Sid (multiarch sytem)

[Mark Allums]

I messed up real good!  I foolishly tried to upgrade my libc6 to the 
version in experimental, and the i386 version wouldn't install, 
something about lintian overrides. (Why lintian is even installed is a 
mystery.  I don't need it, and with the current state of the broken 
libc6, I cant uninstall it.)  I decided to fix it by downgrading libc, 
et al, back to Testing/Sid.  Now, libc6-amd64 package won't downgrade, 
something about overwriting a file (not like other versions of same 
package, duh.) I downloaded the amd64 libc6 .deb from Testing and 
attempted to use dpkg to forcibly install it, but I guess I don't 
understand the man page about forcing things, cause it won't work.  The 
following is some of my thrashing around, trying to understand and fix it.


I'm no guru, what do?

Mark Allums



root@martha:/home/george/Desktop# apt -f install

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.34) but 2.34-0experimental1 is 
installed

 libc6 : Breaks: locales (< 2.34) but 2.33-1 is installed
 Breaks: libc6:i386 (!= 2.34-0experimental1) but 2.33-1 is 
installed
 libc6:i386 : Breaks: libc6 (!= 2.33-1) but 2.34-0experimental1 is 
installed

 libc6-dbg : Depends: libc6 (= 2.33-1) but 2.34-0experimental1 is installed
 libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.33-1) but 2.34-0experimental1 is installed
 libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.33-1) but 2.34-0experimental1 is 
installed

 libc6-x32 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.33-1) but 2.34-0experimental1 is installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be 
caused by held packages.

E: Unable to correct dependencies



root@martha:/home/george/Desktop# aptitude
Performing actions...
Preconfiguring packages ...
dpkg: warning: downgrading libc6:amd64 from 2.34-0experimental1 to 2.33-1
(Reading database ... 2712532 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libc6_2.33-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libc6:amd64 (2.33-1) over (2.34-0experimental1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive 
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.33-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz', which is 
different from other instances of package libc6:amd64

dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)



Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.33-1_amd64.deb

libc6-dbg:amd64
 libc6-x32
 libc6-dev-x32
 libc6:amd64
 libc6-i386
 libc6-dev:amd64
 libc-dev-bin
 libc-devtools
 libc6-dev-i386
 libc-bin
 locales
 nscd
 man-db



root@martha:/home/george/Desktop# apt list | grep libc6

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in 
scripts.


libc6-amd64-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-amd64-i386-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-amd64-x32-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-amd64/testing,unstable 2.33-1 i386
libc6-arm64-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-armel-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-armhf-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dbg/testing,unstable,now 2.33-1 amd64 [installed]
libc6-dbg/testing,unstable 2.33-1 i386
libc6-dev-amd64-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-amd64-i386-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-amd64-x32-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-amd64/testing,unstable 2.33-1 i386
libc6-dev-arm64-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-armel-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-armhf-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-hppa-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-i386-amd64-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-i386-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-i386-x32-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-i386/testing,unstable,now 2.33-1 amd64 [installed]
libc6-dev-m68k-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips32-mips64-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips32-mips64el-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips32-mips64r6-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips32-mips64r6el-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips32-mipsn32-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips32-mipsn32el-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips32-mipsn32r6-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips32-mipsn32r6el-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips64-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips64-mips-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips64-mipsel-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips64-mipsn32-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips64-mipsn32el-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips64-mipsn32r6-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips64-mipsn32r6el-cross/unstable,unstable 2.33-1cross1 all
libc6-dev-mips64-mipsr6-cross/unstable,unstabl

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Mark Allums]

On 7/24/2021 3:14 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:

Hello!

Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling 
out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: 
https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 
<https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11)>

I get a 404 at the above address.

The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but 
I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone 
can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list 
using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe 
<https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe>.
You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page 
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 
<https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/>.

Andrey

Mark Allums

Re: Messed up Email

[Mark Allums]

On 6/21/2021 6:22 PM, Gary L. Roach wrote:

Hi all,

Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 10
KDE Plasma Version: 5.14.5
Qt Version: 5.11.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.54.0
Kernel Version: 4.19.0-16-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor
Memory: 15.6 GiB of RAM

Thunderbird 78.10.0(64bit)

For some years, I have been using Thunderbird on Debian with no 
problems. Over a year ago I switched to gmail.com (Imap server) for my 
mail server. Everything went fine until about 6 months ago . All of a 
sudden I had an All-Mail folder that wasn't there before. Since then 
all of my Emails are bypassing my InBox and my filters. I decided to 
sort out the All-Mail by creating a new set of filters and running 
them on the All-Mail box. I completely cleaned out all 4000 or so 
Emails. As soon as I restarted Thunderbird all of the old Emails were 
downloaded from the web and re-filled the All-Mail box. Nothing in the 
InBox. In addition, I now have multiple copies of the same messages in 
all of my local folders. In short I have a real mess on my hands. I 
have seen various solutions on the web but none seem to work. I also 
noted that pop servers, unlike imap servers, store all of the files on 
the local computer. Could switching to pop solve this problem? Are 
there any other solutions? Please help.


Gary R.

Check your server account (you may need to log in to webmail). Chances 
are, the ISP/mail provider added a new folder that behaves that way.  
Using filters on the server rather than locally might help, and as you 
surmised, trying POP may help.  It's a feature of IMAP to keep your mail 
locally matching the server.  Perhaps some configuration details could 
be changed.


Mark A.

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

[Mark Allums]

On 1/20/21 11:41 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

i bought a new harddrive
western digital red plus 6tb

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Red
Device Model: WDC WD60EFRX-68L0BN1
Serial Number:WD-WX62D60C9L6X
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 212e6b9ad
Firmware Version: 82.00A82
User Capacity:6,001,175,126,016 bytes [6.00 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:5700 rpm
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ACS-2, ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 3b
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:Wed Jan 20 17:12:52 2021 CST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

why is the speed 3.0 gbs i have 4 other drive i have tested with this
device and they all  use 6.0 gbs

I can't tell you why, but I'd recommend you look at

 dmesg | grep -i ata

It might give you some clues,


 Stefan


Is it an SMR drive?  Interface speed may not be too critical if it is.


Mark

Re: Tiling display support

[Mark Allums]

Oh, thanks, I've reread specs. It says 'refresh rate up to 240Hz', but 
for full resolution it's 5120 x 1440 | 60 Hz. There is LG, which 
promises 3840 x 2160 144Hz. I'll be more careful.


Which LG model offers 144 Hz at 3480 x 2160?  Because I am shopping for 
a high-refresh 4k device right now, and I haven't run across any model 
like that from LG.


Mark

(Preferably 32-inch.)

Re: Replacement Email Client

[Mark Allums]

Both Thunderbird and Balsa have been rejected as T'bird is a behemoth
and no longer in development;
Thunderbird has been spun off from Mozilla, and is actively being 
developed.  The thing is still pretty fat, but they recently added 
support for PGP/GPG encryption built-in.  I wouldn't outright dismiss it 
as a possibility.



Mark

Re: dosemu

[Mark Allums]

On 10/17/20 12:47 PM, ellanios82 wrote:

  Mark replied :
 > Consider dosbox-x, related to dosbox (fork), but much easier to configure
and use, with lots of new features.

https://github.com/joncampbell123/dosbox-x 



Mark
.

  - thanks Mark vm.

  . . . sadly am bewildered by github

  : what steps, please, to download & make executable program ??

  thanks
.
  regards



It's available as a flatpak.
https://dosbox-x.com/
 Mark

Re: dosemu

[Mark Allums]

On 10/17/20 2:56 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 10/17/20 12:47 PM, ellanios82 wrote:

  Mark replied :
 > Consider dosbox-x, related to dosbox (fork), but much easier to 
configure

and use, with lots of new features.

https://github.com/joncampbell123/dosbox-x 
<https://github.com/joncampbell123/dosbox-x>


Mark
.

  - thanks Mark vm.

  . . . sadly am bewildered by github

  : what steps, please, to download & make executable program ??

  thanks
.
  regards



It's available as a flatpak.
https://dosbox-x.com/
  Mark


I just found out that it's also available as a snap, if you're okay with 
snaps/Canonical/Ubuntu


https://snapcraft.io/dosbox-x

sudo snap install dosbox-x

Mark

Re: Fwd: dosemu : DOS emulator program

[Mark Allums]

On 10/17/20 11:27 AM, ellanios82 wrote:

  - meantime , got lucky : added to APT Sources List :

   http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian 
 stretch main contrib>


  - did "apt install dosemu"

.

  Oh Miracle !

  dosemu installed & working, sweet
  [ have to say, for me , dosemu is superior functions]

  - again, thank you Reinhard

.
  regards



Cosider dosbox-x, related to dosbox (fork), but much easier to configure 
and use, with lots of new features.


https://github.com/joncampbell123/dosbox-x

Mark

Re: chromium users https question

[Mark Allums]

It;s not https, it's JavaScript. Having to do ad-blockers, maybe.

Mark


On 10/15/2020 3:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Thursday 15 October 2020 14:22:39 l0f...@tuta.io wrote:


Hi,

15 oct. 2020 à 18:26 de ghesk...@shentel.net:

But I've not been able to click on an "https" link and have it work.

Where is your link? I mean is it a link on a webpage or is it inside a
text editor for example? Can you share a working link and a bad one?

Best regards,
l0f4r0

I will do that as soon as I find another bad one.

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

Re: Partial Mouse Lockup

[Mark Allums]

On 10/6/20 1:27 PM, Thomas George wrote:

Mouse clicks don't work though mouse moves the pointer.

This happens infrequently, once in a day or two. I am using two pc's, a 
raspberrypi and a Ubuntu Studio each with its own Logitech usb keyboard 
and have experienced  this problem on both systems.


I have tried to recover with various keyboard entries - ctl-c, cti-d, 
esc, q and by disconnecting and reconnecting the keyboard. Nothing but a 
reboot solves the problem.  I use ctl-alt-f1 to open a terminal, sign in 
and enter shutdown -r now to do this. There is no problem with the 
keyboard.


Is this a known problem? Is there a known solution?



It's been happening to me lately, especially in browsers.  I think it's 
garbage collection.


Mark

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

[Mark Allums]

On 8/12/2020 7:14 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm getting closer to setting up a consistent backup plan, backing up to an
external USB drive.  I'm wondering about a reasonable filesystem to use, I
think I want to stay in the ext2/3/4 family, and I'm wondering if there is any
good reason to use anything beyond ext2?

(Some day I'll try ZFS or BTRFS for my "system" filesystems, but don't see any
point (and don't want to learn) either of them at this point -- I don't see
much need for a backup filesystem.)

But, I'll listen to opinions ;-)



Go for ext4.  No reason not to.

Re: Very old hardware...

[Mark Allums]

On 7/11/20 7:07 PM, David Wright wrote:

On Sun 05 Jul 2020 at 23:44:09 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote:

David Wright wrote:

My 650MHz Pentium III (Coppermine) [...]

consumes ~50mA idling, ~300mA when busy. [...] at 220V


11 to 66 Watt. That's unusual for a full size PC of that time.
I knew some which issued 10 Watts already by noise power and could
heat a small sized office room in winter.


Sorry, "idling" is probably not the best term—I extracted the line
from a spreadsheet of power consumptions for a multitude of different
electronics and electrical appliances. For this PC, it means switched
on, but with only the NIC waiting for a wakeup call. So the disks, fan
and, I assume, the CPU, are not running. The ability to wake it up is
not something I currently use on this machine because of its
convenient location; though after shutdown, I don't rush to turn off
the wall switch.


The word you are looking for is probably "standby".

Mark

Re: Are All Drives Installed .

[Mark Allums]

On 6/25/2020 4:36 PM, Arun Mathai wrote:

Hello Guys,

 I own a Dell e6420 ,  and i had installed debian buster (mate).But 
the brightness and wifi drivers and i assume the hdmi drivers were not 
installed. How can i know that all the drivers for my device is installed?


You may need to install device firmware.  It is not installed by 
default.  Drivers come in packages.  Check if the driver package for 
your device is installed.  Rebooting will be necessary, and you may need 
to check configuration defaults.


Mark

Re: Newbie

[Mark Allums]

Ask one question per post.  Do research yourself (Google is your friend.)

Mark

On 6/25/2020 4:26 PM, Arun Mathai wrote:

Hello Guys,

I am a total newbie for debian.

I have some technical difficulties and questions that i want to ask.

Could anyone please tell me how to proceed.

Regards,

Arun Mathai

Re: Strange squealing noise from computer

[Mark Allums]

On 5/29/2020 8:03 AM, J.W. Foster wrote:

So just to be fair this is NOT a Debian specific issue as I run several distros 
including Debian and Windows10. I have a recently built DIY computer that is 
making a LOUD squealing sound. I thought of fan bearings at first and I tried 
individually stopping each fan to see if the noise stopped one was bad on the 
Enermax 360 cooler so I replaced it. That seemed to get rid of the issue, but 
after about 2 weeks it returned even louder. I checked every fan but none were 
the culprit. I have checked the graphics card fans also and they are fine. This 
only seems to leave the Enermax liquid cooler as a possible issue.

I have been on this list for MANY years and have an idea that someone here may 
have had similar issues. If so, please advise as to your solution, especially 
if the way it is mounted is of concern. Mine is mounted vertically with the 
tubes at the top going to the CPU mounting block. This is on a Ryzen 1950 CPU 
so I must have a high capacity cooler.
Thanks!!
John


It's not coil whine in the power supply, is it?

Mark

Re: Synaptic error

[Mark Allums]

On 4/12/2020 10:44 AM, Reco wrote:


Your local apt index file is out of sync with the mirror.
They should give a button in Synaptic that performs the equivalent of
"apt-get update".

Reload.

Re: Package request

[Mark Allums]

On 3/27/2020 7:42 PM, Justin wrote:


Good day, I am inquiring if you make a package which would like 
onenote for microsoft. Do you have a interactive package that would be 
used just like onenote or similar?
Also do you make a package like a virtual machine or similar where you 
can instal windows in and run windows through debian platform?


Thanks for you help



For Windows vmware or virtualbox.  For other, QEMU/kvm.

Re: how to keep 2 PCs partially in sync

[Mark Allums]

On 3/24/20 4:05 PM, Patrick Scribus wrote:

Hello,

two of my computers have a similar role as desktop. The installed
packages are nearly the same, the configuration is nearly the same and
the stored data in /home also. Especially the texts, the pictures and
the like require too much time and effort to keep in sync. At first I
wrote a little script that uses the power of rsync. This is much better
than no script at all. But I hope for a solution that automates this
like in those talks from 10-15 years ago when they suggest to use coda.
I would love to use coda but it seems like nobody is maintaining it
since quite some time. What happened in the meantime? What do you guys
use for similar tasks?



Syncthing.

https://syncthing.net/

Mark

Re: no upgrade of libkpmcore8 to libkpmcore9

[Mark Allums]

On 3/19/2020 8:03 AM, Marco Möller wrote:
The dependency libkpmcore9 cannot be upgraded from libkpmcore8, 
therefore the package partitionmanager is hold back from upgrades. 
What exactly causes "apt upgrade" to not be able to upgrade to 
libkpmcore9 from libkpmcore8? Below I will show what I figured out so 
far. Is there some more detail I could search for? Or is it a bug and 
if so, for which package (libkpmcore9 or apt or some other instance) 
should I report it?
My OS is Debian testing ("Bullseye"), kernel-release 5.4.0-4-amd64 and 
kernel-version being #1 SMP Debian 5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13), besides the 
below mentioned packages upgraded to the newest package versions.



I have done the following to clarify the situation, which shows that 
the hold back is caused by the dependency libkpmcore9:

    apt upgrade partitionmanager -s
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 partitionmanager : Depends: libkpmcore9 (>= 4.1.0) but it is not 
going to be installed

E: Broken packages


Chances are, there is more coming from the maintainers.  Simply waiting 
a week or so may clear this up.  The dependencies don't work because 
another package needs to be upgraded or installed that hasn't yet been 
uploaded to the mirrors.  This happens frequently in testing and Sid 
(and experimental).


Mark

Re: All true assertions in a bash find one liner? ...

[Mark Allums]

On 2/27/2020 6:40 AM, Albretch Mueller wrote:

  I need to find all files which names satisfy a pattern and contain a
certain string, then from those files I need to printf some metadata,
a la:



  Instead of the lines of the first search by the extensions to look like:

"12/15/18 12:14:16.00",1544872456,2542,"OK/OK00/OK00Test.java"
"12/15/18 
11:28:49.00",1544869729,85,"OK/OK00/OK00Test_main_cli_UTF-8.properties.txt"
"12/15/18 
11:30:45.00",1544869845,296,"OK/logs/OK00Test_20181215053045.0413_err.properties.txt"
"12/15/18 
11:35:23.00",1544870123,296,"OK/logs/OK00Test_20181215053523.0420_err.properties.txt"

  I want them formatted a la -mm-dd hh:mm:ss (or dd.mm.
hh:mm:ss, or whatever other way):

"2018-12-15 12:14:16",1544872456,2542,"OK/OK00/OK00Test.java"
"2018-12-15 
11:28:49",1544869729,85,"OK/OK00/OK00Test_main_cli_UTF-8.properties.txt"
"2018-12-18 
11:30:45",1544869845,296,"OK/logs/OK00Test_20181215053045.0413_err.properties.txt"
"2018-12-18 
11:35:23",1544870123,296,"OK/logs/OK00Test_20181215053523.0420_err.properties.txt"


Sounds like a job for PERL.

Re: Modern automounters and umount

[Mark Allums]

On 2/25/20 3:43 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2020-02-25, Mark Allums  wrote:


george@martha:~$ systemctl stop gvfs-daemon
Failed to stop gvfs-daemon.service: Unit gvfs-daemon.service not loaded.


You cannot stop what does not exist.

I think the systemd unit involved is
  
  run-user-1000-gvfs.mount


Try 'systemctl status run-user-1000-gvfs.mount'
and see.


george@martha:~$ systemctl status run-user-1000-gvfs.mount
Unit run-user-1000-gvfs.mount could not be found.



george@martha:~$ gvfsd-fuse
bash: gvfsd-fuse: command not found


This thing isn't in your path, which has been explained.

  /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-fuse


george@martha:~$ man gvfs-fuse
No manual entry for gvfs-fuse


It's called 'gvfsd-fuse'.
GVFSD-FUSE(1)User Commands 
GVFSD-FUSE(1)


NAME
   gvfsd-fuse - Fuse daemon for gvfs

SYNOPSIS
   gvfsd-fuse PATH

DESCRIPTION
   gvfsd-fuse maintains a fuse mount to make gvfs backends available to
   POSIX applications. The mount point for the fuse filesystem is 
provided

   by the [PATH] argument.

   gvfsd-fuse is normally started by gvfsd(1). In this case, the mount
   point is $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/gvfs or $HOME/.gvfs.

OPTIONS
   -d
   Enable fuse debug output. This implies -f.

   -f
   Run in the foreground.

   -s
   Run single-threaded.

   -o OPTION
   Set a fuse-specific option. See the fuse documentation for a 
list

   of these.

EXIT STATUS
   On success 0 is returned, a non-zero failure code otherwise.

SEE ALSO
   gvfs(7)

gvfs 
GVFSD-FUSE(1)





Please advise as to the best way to set an environment variable on
startup before gvfs, et al load.


A tricky exercise which can depend on your DE (and maybe even your
graphical login manager). What have you tried so far?


The things I tried are naive.  I don't know, or have forgotten, where to 
put commands that run that early in the process.  I run the latest MATE 
out of Bullseye, 1.24.x-y.  There is a partial installation (a 
"minimal") Gnome 3 installed, and various Gnome-related programs.  XCFE 
is installed, for emergencies.  (I am a bad typist, and am rather 
dependent on GUIs.)  I load MATE by default at startup.


/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd --no-fuse
Failed to acquire daemon name, perhaps the VFS daemon is already running?

Re: Modern automounters and umount

[Mark Allums]

On 2/24/20 10:08 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Mon 24 Feb 2020 at 10:54:28 (-), Curt wrote:

On 2020-02-24, Mark Allums  wrote:




george@martha:~$ gvfsd --no-fuse
bash: gvfsd: command not found
george@martha:~$ systemctl stop gvfsd
Failed to stop gvfsd.service: Unit gvfsd.service not loaded.

which suggests a bit of misunderstanding about what gvfsd is.
AIUI it's a daemon (hence the d), and not in anyone's PATH,
which is why you have to find out where it's running from and
what might be consulting the value of GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE.
Also I think the service is called gvfs-daemon (but there may
be other related ones involved).


george@martha:~$ systemctl stop gvfs-daemon
Failed to stop gvfs-daemon.service: Unit gvfs-daemon.service not loaded.
george@martha:~$ gvfsd-fuse
bash: gvfsd-fuse: command not found
george@martha:~$ man gvfs-fuse
No manual entry for gvfs-fuse



george@martha:~$ apropos gvfs
gvfs (7) - GIO virtual file system
gvfs-cat (1) - (unknown subject)
gvfs-copy (1)- (unknown subject)
gvfs-info (1)- (unknown subject)
gvfs-less (1)- Execute less on the output of gvfs-cat
gvfs-ls (1)  - (unknown subject)
gvfs-mime (1)- (unknown subject)
gvfs-mkdir (1)   - (unknown subject)
gvfs-monitor-dir (1) - (unknown subject)
gvfs-monitor-file (1) - (unknown subject)
gvfs-mount (1)   - (unknown subject)
gvfs-move (1)- (unknown subject)
gvfs-open (1)- (unknown subject)
gvfs-rename (1)  - (unknown subject)
gvfs-rm (1)  - (unknown subject)
gvfs-save (1)- (unknown subject)
gvfs-set-attribute (1) - (unknown subject)
gvfs-trash (1)   - (unknown subject)
gvfs-tree (1)- (unknown subject)
gvfsd (1)- Main daemon for gvfs
gvfsd-fuse (1)   - Fuse daemon for gvfs
gvfsd-metadata (1)   - Metadata daemon for gvfs




As for doing exercises, I don't have gvfs* installed, nor any DE,
so I wouldn't know where to start.

Drifting a litle, I do remember being surprised how easy it is for
devices to be mounted twice, having had difficulty myself (mount
would complain the device was already mounted). It turned out that,
because the device I tried using was originally mounted readonly,
I also had to set  ro  in the second mount command for it to succeed.

Cheers,
David.



Please advise as to the best way to set an environment variable on 
startup before gvfs, et al load.


Mark

Re: Modern automounters and umount

[Mark Allums]

On 2/23/20 3:02 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 09:58:10PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote:

Explain this, then:

george@martha:~$ udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdb1
Unmounted /dev/sdb1.
george@martha:~$ sudo e2fsck -c -c -k -p -f -C 0 /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.


Can you repeat this, but include the output of "grep sdb1 /proc/mounts"
before the udisksctl invocation, and again after it?



george@martha:~$ grep sdb1 /proc/mounts
/dev/sdb1 /media/george/5913b3d0-eae1-4748-9ce2-d64d4eb21135 ext4 
rw,sync,nosuid,nodev,relatime 0 0

george@martha:~$ udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdb1
Unmounted /dev/sdb1.
george@martha:~$ grep sdb1 /proc/mounts
george@martha:~$ sudo e2fsck -cckp -f -C 0 /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.


george@martha:~$ gvfsd --no-fuse
bash: gvfsd: command not found
george@martha:~$ systemctl stop gvfsd
Failed to stop gvfsd.service: Unit gvfsd.service not loaded.
george@martha:~$

Re: Modern automounters and umount

[Mark Allums]

On 2/23/20 5:00 AM, Curt wrote:

I never understood the actual procedure for unmounting when gvfsd was

doing it;s thing, nor how to prevent the whole mess in the first place
(short of doing without gvfsd, et al).

Well, at any rate, I can only believe your deal here (*completely*
unrelated to the tool 'undisksctl', BTW, contrary to what some have
insinuated) is the exact same deal as the one exposed in the thread you
initiated about a year ago

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/02/msg00542.html

whose upshot appeared to be

  root@martha:~# lsof /dev/sdb
  lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system
  /run/user/1001/gvfs
Output information may be incomplete.

and in which David Wright advised:

  The man page suggests that running   gvfsd --no-fuse   or setting a
  value to   GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE   will stop it running.

  How to set an environment variable in a DE is left as an exercise for
  the reader.


The gvfsd --no-fuse doesn't do it for me.

Re: Modern automounters and umount

[Mark Allums]

On 2/22/20 8:36 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2020-02-22, Mark Allums  wrote:


But does not require superuser, if udisks2 mounted it on your user's
behalf in the first place.



Explain this, then:

george@martha:~$ udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdb1
Unmounted /dev/sdb1.
george@martha:~$ sudo e2fsck -c -c -k -p -f -C 0 /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.


Wasn't it gvfsd the last time?


I never understood the actual procedure for unmounting when gvfsd was 
doing it;s thing, nor how to prevent the whole mess in the first place 
(short of doing without gvfsd, et al).


Mark

Re: Modern automounters and umount

[Mark Allums]

On 2/21/20 9:23 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 08:53:50AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:

Indeed.  And FWIW, you should/might be able to avoid the `sudo` by
asking udisks2 to do the unmount


Yep. It requires you to specify the device, rather than the filesystem
mount point:

    $ udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdb1

But does not require superuser, if udisks2 mounted it on your user's
behalf in the first place.



Explain this, then:

george@martha:~$ udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdb1
Unmounted /dev/sdb1.
george@martha:~$ sudo e2fsck -c -c -k -p -f -C 0 /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

Thnx,

Mark

Re: Do one thing. Do it right

[Mark Allums]

On 2/14/2020 3:29 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

What I don't know is whether they bother (from a technical standpoint
rather than espionage) to track a SIM-less phone. Making contact in

Same question for a phone with an old SIM card.
Same question for a phone in "airplane mode".


 Stefan


Old SIM:  yes, they bother.  Definitely.
Airplane mode: in theory, no (no RF output)

Mark

Re: Anyone with experience scanning with Epson

[Mark Allums]

On 2/7/2020 10:53 AM, Michael Stone wrote:

On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:36:55PM +, Brian wrote:

On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 10:25:22 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:


On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:05:31PM +, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 07 Feb 2020 at 09:37:17 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 10:36:11AM +0800, kaye n wrote:
> > > Hello Friends!
> > >
> > > I'm running:
> > > Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64
> > > bits: 64
> > > Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4
> > > Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
> > >
> > > My printer is an Epson L220.  It's connected to my laptop's 
USB port.

> > >
> > > The command lsusb shows:
> > > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04b8:08d1 Seiko Epson Corp.
> > >
> > > Therefore in the file, /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf
> > > I added this line:
> > > usb 0x04b8 0x08d1
> > >
> > > The printer can print just fine, but ImageScan and XSane would 
not run.

> > >
> > > ImageScan says:
> > > Could not send command to scanner. Check the scanner's status.
> > >
> > > XSane says:
> > > Failed to open device 'epkowa:usb:002:003':
> > > Access to resource has been denied.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your time!
> >
> > This smells like a permission problem. In your example above the 
scanner is
> > on bus 002 device 003. (It may change as you unplug and replug 
usb devices,
> > so check with lsusb and change the numbers below as needed.) You 
can see the

> > permissions for that device with:
> > ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/003
> > If it comes back with something that starts with:
> > crw-rw-r-- 1 root root
> > then it's writable only by root. A working configuration would 
have either

> > crw-rw-rw- 1 root root
> > or would having your username or a group that you're in rather 
than root, or

> > would look like
> > crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root
> > indicating an ACL which you can see via getfacl 
/dev/bus/usb/002/003

> > (there would be a line with your username in the default libsane
> > configuration).
> >
> > Assuming the permissions look like they might be the problem, 
you can

> > confirm that by running
> > chmod o+w /dev/bus/usb/002/003
> > to make the file world writable (for testing only; it isn't 
permantent if
> > the scanner is unplugged or the system rebooted). If xsane 
works, you've
> > found the problem. If that's the case, the next step is probably 
to update

> > the udev configuration. If not, on to the next guess. :)
>
> Permisions on the USB bus are managed by an ACL.
>
>  https://wiki.debian.org/Scanner

Yes, that's why I mentioned the ACL. :) But, it hasn't always been 
that way

and it's not the only way that will actually work...hence the other
possibilities.


It is the way it is now on unstable/buser/stretch. What is in the past
is in the past. No user should have to mess about with permissions or
be in the scanner group to have permission to use a USB scanner. If it
is a route that is thought to be necessary, there is something wrong
with the user's setup or it is a bug.


There's nothing wrong with the user's setup if they have a 
configuration (possibly older) that sets permissions in a way that 
works even if it isn't the current default. I'd rather show someone 
how they can identify whether the permissions are a problem than have 
them waste their time

changing things if it isn't even an issue. YMMV.

Minor threadjack here:  Has his printer updated its firmware or software 
recently?  Mine (Epson ET-7750) updated both and now won't respond to my 
scanning software.


I say "threadjack" because my printer is connected via network, not USB, 
and the software is running on Windows.


Still, did something update?  Without your knowledge?  It's a good idea 
to double check.


Mark

Re: Cuda sdk for Debian?

[Mark Allums]

On 2/5/2020 2:37 AM, An Liu wrote:

Hi，

As there is no Cuda offical support for debian from NVIDIA，anyone 
could share any Cuda experience.




It's in non-free.  Enable non-free in sources.list and apt update.

Re: Pluma's syntax highlighting

[Mark Allums]

On 1/13/2020 10:03 AM, David Wright wrote:


Once again, I can tell you nothing about Pluma.


Pluma is a direct descendant of the Gnome 2 text editor, whose name 
currently escapes me.

Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

[Mark Allums]

On 12/29/2019 8:44 PM, Andreas wrote:

I was supposing that Mark's answer implied that (against general
policies of debian and for reasons unknown to me) in this case security
changes of upstream would be passed on to debian, even if binutils is
"not covered by security support". If this is (probably?) not the case,
the fact that binutils is supported by upstream of course is of no help.


My answer was the naive one, that assumes that the upstream even cares.  
Of course Debian adds its own patches and "spin", and upstream doesn't 
care about that.  Everyone may recall the random number debacle...


Mark

Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

[Mark Allums]

On 12/29/2019 1:28 PM, Andreas Goesele wrote:

Hi,

I just went from jessie to buster and I didn't discover any serious
problem so far.

But I tried to remove all packages where there is no or only limitid
security support and ended up with 5 packages I don't think I should/can
remove:

binutils (and binutils-common, libbinutils, binutils-x86-64-linux-gnu)

and libqt5webkit5.

binutils is needed quite often and if I want to remove libqt5webkit5
among other things plasma-desktop disappears.

Do I just have to live with these packages without security support or
is there any way arround it?

Andreas


Binutils is supported upstream, and you really can't live without it, 
anyway.

Re: Impossible to type "ù"

[Mark Allums]

On 12/16/19 3:53 PM, Pétùr wrote:

Hi,

I cannot type "ù" anymore on Debian Xfce Sid (French keyboard).

All other accented character (éàûè) work but the cursor just blinked 
when using the dedicated key for "ù".


Any clue?


Bad key?

Re: Lua doesn't load the MySQL driver

[Mark Allums]

On 12/5/19 5:02 AM, Bjoern Schiessle wrote:

I tried to move the file /usr/local/share/lua/5.2/DBI.lua away, then
the error message changes to:

Dec 05 11:57:35 sql error   Error in SQL transaction:
/usr/share/lua/5.2/DBI.lua:53: Cannot load driver MySQL. Available
drivers are: PostgreSQL

So now it tries to load the "official" source. But the mysql driver is
still not found. What still confuses me, that the Postgresql driver
installed from the Debian repository is recognized correctly. So it
seems to look at the right places but something seems to be different
if it comes to the mysql driver.


Are you using MySQL or MariaDB?

Mark

Re: external drive

[Mark Allums]

On 12/2/19 4:57 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, December 02, 2019 05:11:41 AM Gene Heskett wrote:

On Monday 02 December 2019 04:40:28 Andrei POPESCU wrote:

Try a different (known good) reader and/or system.


I'll look for one that claims exfat support. But I'm out in the
puckerbrush so if staples or wally's doesn't carry it, I'm S.O.L.


Well, we all have ebay (with some short delivery times, but also some long
from the far east), Newegg, TigerDirect, and (for me, as a last resort)
Amazon.  (Well, plus some specialty electronic component houses -- I think
James is gone, but there are others.)

With the weather today (at least in eastern Pa.), and your need to stay close
to your wife, paying for overnight delivery might be a reasonable thing to do.
(I ususally order from the far east and wait, unless it is an emergency.)

And we don't have Radio Shack or Circuit City any more -- there is a Best Buy
that used to carry some computer components -- not sure that they still do.



exfat support is not necessary in the card reader.  All readers support 
exfat if they support the size of sd/microsd card that comes 
preformatted to exfat.  You need filesystem support in your OS of 
choice.  That is all.


Mark

PS: Some OSes don't support very large capacity SD cards.  Win 10 
wouldn't read a 512 GB microsd card of mine.

Re: external drive

[Mark Allums]

Install exfat support.

apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils


Mark


On 11/29/2019 7:25 AM, Łukasz Kruk wrote:

Hi there,

I have an external drive formatted to exFAT.

I cannot access it?

Can you please assist?

Kind regards,

L. Kruk.

Re: at-spi-dbus-launcher not responding

[Mark Allums]

On 10/19/2019 5:54 PM, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:

On 10/19/19, Mike Kupfer  wrote:

I have a system running bullseye.  When I try to log out, or shut down,
from MATE, I invariably get a popup that tells me that
at-spi-dbus-launcher is not responding.  I click on "logout anyway", and
the system does eventually log me out, but there's a delay.

I tried disabling the AT-SPI daemon and the Orca screen reader in my
startup applications, but that hasn't helped.

Does anyone know what's going on here?


Hi, mike, I don't know, but, as soon as I read "Orca", I thought of
the Debian-Accessibility list:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/

The "at-spi-dbus" in your post was familiar from my inbox, but there's
not much left in there about it. Ironically of sorts, I did find this
several year old bug where potentially similar delay activity was
happening during *login* instead of logout:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=840618


I am not running Orca, but I have the same issue.

Mark

[solved] Re: installed zfsutils-linux post-installation script returned exit status 1

[Mark Allums]

On 9/17/19 2:41 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2019-09-17, Mark Allums  wrote:
Well, what you provided in the initial OP was a bit on the parsimonious
side.  Now that we know a little more maybe this is the applicable bug
(although it concerns a previous version of the package, and you haven't
said--or have you?--what release you're using):

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=927003

Did you "Try running '/sbin/modprobe zfs as root' as suggested in the
verbose output you posted elsewhere (Hans-Christoph Steiner's
workaround)?

Also, I don't grok why Okular would pull in zfsutils-linux as
a dependency. I must be missing some essential thing.


D'oh!  I am scatterbrained lately.  For some reason, I didn't see that 
suggestion (although I am puzzled as to why the user should need to do 
that--it should be automated.)


It worked.

As to Okular, I think it's an optional package I installed.  A lot of 
kde crap got pulled in, maybe something from that needs zfs?


Thanks for finding the bug reports and everything.  I wish Google was 
truly omniscient, or I had better google-fu.


Mark

Re: installed zfsutils-linux post-installation script returned exit status 1

[Mark Allums]

On 9/16/19 2:39 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2019-09-16, Mark Allums  wrote:

I need advice diagnosing and dealing with this:

E: zfsutils-linux: installed zfsutils-linux package post-installation
script subprocess returned error exit status 1


Maybe one or both of these bug reports apply:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=923377
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=915831


The first doesn't apply, and I don't think the second does, either.  See 
my new post in this thread.


Mark

additional info: installed zfsutils-linux post-installation script returned exit status 1

[Mark Allums]

I should note, I don't actually have any disks set up yet with a ZFS 
file system.  Installing Okular pulled in ZFS-utilities as a dependency. 
 Chicken-or-egg problem.




On 9/15/19 11:42 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

I need advice diagnosing and dealing with this:

E: zfsutils-linux: installed zfsutils-linux package post-installation 
script subprocess returned error exit status 1


Thanks,

Mark



Setting up zfsutils-linux (0.8.1-4) ...
zfs-import-scan.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Job for zfs-mount.service failed because the control process exited with 
error code.

See "systemctl status zfs-mount.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript zfs-mount, action "start" failed.
● zfs-mount.service - Mount ZFS filesystems
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/zfs-mount.service; enabled; 
vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Tue 2019-09-17 00:01:22 
CDT; 4ms ago

 Docs: man:zfs(8)
  Process: 9550 ExecStart=/sbin/zfs mount -a (code=exited, 
status=1/FAILURE)

 Main PID: 9550 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
  CPU: 2ms

Sep 17 00:01:22 martha systemd[1]: Starting Mount ZFS filesystems...
Sep 17 00:01:22 martha zfs[9550]: The ZFS modules are not loaded.
Sep 17 00:01:22 martha zfs[9550]: Try running '/sbin/modprobe zfs' as 
root to load them.
Sep 17 00:01:22 martha systemd[1]: zfs-mount.service: Main process 
exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Sep 17 00:01:22 martha systemd[1]: zfs-mount.service: Failed with result 
'exit-code'.

Sep 17 00:01:22 martha systemd[1]: Failed to start Mount ZFS filesystems.
dpkg: error processing package zfsutils-linux (--configure):
 installed zfsutils-linux package post-installation script subprocess 
returned error exit status 1

Setting up python3-pandas (0.23.3+dfsg-4) ...

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of zfs-zed:
 zfs-zed depends on zfsutils-linux (>= 0.8.1-4); however:
  Package zfsutils-linux is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package zfs-zed (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured

Errors were encountered while processing:
 zfsutils-linux
 zfs-zed
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
Setting up zfsutils-linux (0.8.1-4) ...
zfs-import-scan.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Job for zfs-mount.service failed because the control process exited with 
error code.

See "systemctl status zfs-mount.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript zfs-mount, action "start" failed.
● zfs-mount.service - Mount ZFS filesystems
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/zfs-mount.service; enabled; 
vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Tue 2019-09-17 00:01:41 
CDT; 3ms ago

 Docs: man:zfs(8)
  Process: 11306 ExecStart=/sbin/zfs mount -a (code=exited, 
status=1/FAILURE)

 Main PID: 11306 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
  CPU: 2ms

Sep 17 00:01:41 martha systemd[1]: Starting Mount ZFS filesystems...
Sep 17 00:01:41 martha zfs[11306]: The ZFS modules are not loaded.
Sep 17 00:01:41 martha zfs[11306]: Try running '/sbin/modprobe zfs' as 
root to load them.
Sep 17 00:01:41 martha systemd[1]: zfs-mount.service: Main process 
exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Sep 17 00:01:41 martha systemd[1]: zfs-mount.service: Failed with result 
'exit-code'.

Sep 17 00:01:41 martha systemd[1]: Failed to start Mount ZFS filesystems.
dpkg: error processing package zfsutils-linux (--configure):
 installed zfsutils-linux package post-installation script subprocess 
returned error exit status 1

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of zfs-zed:
 zfs-zed depends on zfsutils-linux (>= 0.8.1-4); however:
  Package zfsutils-linux is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package zfs-zed (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 zfsutils-linux
 zfs-zed

installed zfsutils-linux post-installation script returned exit status 1

[Mark Allums]

I need advice diagnosing and dealing with this:

E: zfsutils-linux: installed zfsutils-linux package post-installation 
script subprocess returned error exit status 1


Thanks,

Mark

Re: why won't ff look at this url?

[Mark Allums]

Addons, plugins are all disabled. No change.

Cheers, Gene Heskett



Try clearing cache.  Maybe reboot your router.  Running a pi-hole? 
Restart it.


Mark

Re: why won't ff look at this url?

[Mark Allums]

On 8/24/19 9:21 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

Greetings folks;

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/w-va-ambulance-ems-director-arrested-accused-of-missing-and-tampering-with-narcotics

All I get for clicking on it is a blank screen.

Thanks for any help.


ad-blocker blocker?  (site works for me)
Mark

Re: GeForce GT 710 on debian

[Mark Allums]

On 8/10/2019 11:16 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Sb, 10 aug 19, 16:57:06, Jonas Hedman wrote:

Hi, my monitor (Samsung S22F350FHU 22"") doesn't play nicely with my
with my ThinkCentre M92p. I tried to mess with setting, and
I got it to work somewhat ok-ish but the picture is still a
little blurry and I got small black vertical lines on
both sides.

What kind of cable are you using? If VGA switch to HDMI instead.

See if the monitor has an auto-adjust or similar function in the menu.

Kind regards,
Andrei


My guess is that what OP refers to as  "black lines on both sides" is 
probably just letterboxing/pillarboxing.  I guess the aspect ratio is 
set to something narrower than the monitor, and that simply adjusting 
the resolution is all that is needed.



Mark

Re: GeForce GT 710 on debian

[Mark Allums]

On 8/10/19 9:57 AM, Jonas Hedman wrote:

Hi, my monitor (Samsung S22F350FHU 22"") doesn't play nicely
with my ThinkCentre M92p. I tried to mess with setting, and
I got it to work somewhat ok-ish but the picture is still a
little blurry and I got small black vertical lines on
both sides.



It sounds like your desktop is set to the wrong resolution.



A friend of mine offered to give me a MSI GeForce GT 710 graphics card
for free. I've always been a little afraid of graphics cards + gnu/linux
and avoided it like the pest because of all the associated proeblems of
getting drives to work and all that.

But if I accept my friends kind offer, how hard would it be to get it
to work properly on buster with my setup? I did some lazy duckduckgoing
but it seems like the answers were of varying quality and "hardness".

What do I need to do to make if work (if's possible at all)? I would
prefer to use free software but I'm open to using non-free stuff if
it's a quick fix.


It should work fine "out-of-the-box" with the Nouveau driver (free), 
nothing needs to be done.  You might get better performance out of the 
proprietary driver in non-free, but it's not necessary.


Mark

Re: [solved?] Can't Upgrade to Buster

[Mark Allums]

On 7/7/19 9:42 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 08:44:52 -0500
Mark Allums  wrote:

Hello Mark,



I am not exactly sure why you are concerned about "mixed repos".


Personally, I'm not.  However, the nature of your questions indicated to
me that you aren't entirely at home fiddling with this stuff.  I stress;
to me.  It also seems I may have come to the wrong conclusion about your
capabilities in this area.  My apologies.


No problem. I am experienced, but I don't subscribe to all the mailing 
lists.  I'm no guru.




Having a mixture of stable and testing under certain circumstances can
be a recipe for disaster.  Check the list archives; there are quite a
few examples of people getting into a mess when mixing repos in this way.



Generally updates to discrete packages and sets of packages are okay.  I 
am careful about system packages.  E.g., I would update VLC or 
LibreOffice, but not systemd.


Thanks for all your help.

Mark

Re: [solved?] Can't Upgrade to Buster

[Mark Allums]

On 7/7/19 8:19 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 07:30:51 -0500
Mark Allums  wrote:

Hello Mark,


enabling bullseye in sources.list and running apt update seems to have


Why add bullseye (testing)?  Your talk thus far has been about buster
(stable).

It seems to me that you have mixed repos in your sources.list.



I was running buster (testing) before release.  Synaptic seemed to want 
testing.  It seemed intuitive to give it what it wanted.


I don't intend to run testing for a while.  I will soon comment out the 
bullseye line in sources.list and see what happens.  But FYI, it is OK 
to have both stable and testing enabled when using exclusively using 
Synaptic.   As long as you don't install massive amounts of packages 
from both.  And as long as you don't use apt-get/apt or aptitude CLI. 
You can tell Synaptic to prefer whichever repository you want.  By 
default, it prefers "highest".  But you can tell it it "stable" or 
"testing", and it will abide by your choice.


In a few months, I will reenable bullseye and move to it.

I am not exactly sure why you are concerned about "mixed repos".

Mark

Re: [solved?] Can't Upgrade to Buster

[Mark Allums]

On 7/7/19 6:59 AM, wrote:


root@martha:~# apt-get update
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease [118 kB]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease [31.1 
kB]
Get:3 http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease [31.1 kB]
Get:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [46.8 kB]  
Hit:5 http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode stable InRelease  
Hit:6 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable InRelease  
Hit:7 https://packages.microsoft.com/debian/9/prod stretch InRelease   
Hit:8 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid InReleaseHit:9 
http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental InRelease
Ign:10 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Hit:11 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Ign:12 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_9.0  
InRelease
Hit:14 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_9.0  
Release
Reading package lists... Done
N: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed its 
'Version' value from '' to '10.0'
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed its 
'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates 
InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease' changed its 
'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease' changed 
its 'Suite' value from 'testing-updates' to 'stable-updates'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.



For Buster its best to use apt update - then just answer y to accept the
change in repo status to stable

or

However if you want to use apt-get still, perform this command:

# apt-get --allow-releaseinfo-change update


> Running synaptic, I get:

> E: The value 'testing' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a
> release is not available in the sources
> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.

Well, I don't know what an official proper solution would be, but 
enabling bullseye in sources.list and running apt update seems to have 
done it.  At least Synaptic runs without error, now.


Mark

Re: Can't Upgrade to Buster

[Mark Allums]

On 7/7/2019 6:15 AM, Dekks Herton wrote:

Mark Allums  writes:


I've been running Buster in Testing happily for months.  So technically, I'm 
already upgraded.  However,


root@martha:~# apt-get update
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease [118 kB]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease [31.1 
kB]
Get:3 http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease [31.1 kB]
Get:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [46.8
kB] Hit:5 http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode stable
InRelease Hit:6 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable InRelease Hit:7
https://packages.microsoft.com/debian/9/prod stretch InRelease Hit:8
http://deb.debian.org/debian sid InRelease Hit:9
http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental InRelease
Ign:10 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Hit:11 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Ign:12 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_9.0  
InRelease
Hit:14 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_9.0  
Release
Reading package lists... Done
N: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed its 
'Version' value from '' to '10.0'
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed its 
'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates 
InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease' changed its 
'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease' changed 
its 'Suite' value from 'testing-updates' to 'stable-updates'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.

root@martha:~# apt-secure
-bash: apt-secure: command not found


What do I do?

For Buster its best to use apt update - then just answer y to accept the
change in repo status to stable


I never heard of the difference between apt-get and apt (no -get).  Is 
this new?


Mark

Re: Can't Upgrade to Buster

[Mark Allums]

On 7/7/2019 6:37 AM, Matthew Crews wrote:

On 7/7/19 4:15 AM, Dekks Herton wrote:

Mark Allums  writes:


I've been running Buster in Testing happily for months.  So technically, I'm 
already upgraded.  However,

**snip**

What do I do?

For Buster its best to use apt update - then just answer y to accept the
change in repo status to stable


Indeed, apt is the preferred tool instead of apt-get.

However if you want to use apt-get still, perform this command:

# apt-get --allow-releaseinfo-change update

-Matt


Thank you.  I never heard of Apt as opposed to apt-get.  Is this new?


Mark

Re: Can't Upgrade to Buster

[Mark Allums]

On 7/7/19 6:15 AM, Dekks Herton wrote:

Mark Allums  writes:


I've been running Buster in Testing happily for months.  So technically, I'm 
already upgraded.  However,


root@martha:~# apt-get update
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease [118 kB]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease [31.1 
kB]
Get:3 http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease [31.1 kB]
Get:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [46.8
kB] Hit:5 http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode stable
InRelease Hit:6 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable InRelease Hit:7
https://packages.microsoft.com/debian/9/prod stretch InRelease Hit:8
http://deb.debian.org/debian sid InRelease Hit:9
http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental InRelease
Ign:10 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Hit:11 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Ign:12 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_9.0  
InRelease
Hit:14 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_9.0  
Release
Reading package lists... Done
N: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed its 
'Version' value from '' to '10.0'
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed its 
'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates 
InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease' changed its 
'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease' changed 
its 'Suite' value from 'testing-updates' to 'stable-updates'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.


root@martha:~# apt-secure
-bash: apt-secure: command not found


What do I do?


For Buster its best to use apt update - then just answer y to accept the
change in repo status to stable



This worked.  Was there an alternate solution?  However, a new problem 
has surfaced.  Running synaptic, I get:



E: The value 'testing' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a 
release is not available in the sources

E: _cache->open() failed, please report.

and it closes.

Apropos: Is Bullseye up yet?

Mark

Re: Can't Upgrade to Buster

[Mark Allums]

On 7/7/19 6:08 AM, Mark Allums wrote:
I've been running Buster in Testing happily for months.  So technically, 
I'm already upgraded.  However,



root@martha:~# apt-get update
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease [118 kB]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates 
InRelease [31.1 kB]
Get:3 http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease [31.1 kB] 
Get:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [46.8 kB] 
Hit:5 http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode stable InRelease 
Hit:6 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable InRelease Hit:7 
https://packages.microsoft.com/debian/9/prod stretch InRelease Hit:8 
http://deb.debian.org/debian sid InRelease Hit:9 
http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental InRelease

Ign:10 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Hit:11 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Ign:12 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_9.0  
InRelease
Hit:14 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_9.0  
Release

Reading package lists... Done
N: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed 
its 'Version' value from '' to '10.0'
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed 
its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository 
can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security 
buster/updates InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 
'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository 
can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease' 
changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository 
can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease' 
changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing-updates' to 'stable-updates'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository 
can be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.


root@martha:~# apt-secure
-bash: apt-secure: command not found


What do I do?

Mark



To go along with this, here's my /etc/apt/sources.list.  I have a few 
third-party sources in /etc/apt/sources.list.d.



deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster non-free contrib main

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ buster/updates non-free 
contrib main

deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates contrib non-free main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates non-free contrib main

#deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye non-free contrib main

#deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bullseye/updates 
non-free contrib main

#deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye/updates contrib non-free main
#deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates non-free contrib main


deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ sid non-free contrib main

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free

Mark

Can't Upgrade to Buster

[Mark Allums]

I've been running Buster in Testing happily for months.  So technically, 
I'm already upgraded.  However,



root@martha:~# apt-get update
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease [118 kB]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease [31.1 
kB]
Get:3 http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease [31.1 kB]
Get:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [46.8 kB]  
Hit:5 http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode stable InRelease  
Hit:6 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable InRelease  
Hit:7 https://packages.microsoft.com/debian/9/prod stretch InRelease   
Hit:8 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid InRelease
Hit:9 http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental InRelease

Ign:10 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease
Hit:11 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release
Ign:12 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_9.0  
InRelease
Hit:14 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_9.0  
Release
Reading package lists... Done
N: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed its 
'Version' value from '' to '10.0'
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease' changed its 
'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates 
InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease' changed its 
'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'stable'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease' changed 
its 'Suite' value from 'testing-updates' to 'stable-updates'
N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this repository can be 
applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.


root@martha:~# apt-secure
-bash: apt-secure: command not found


What do I do?

Mark

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

[Mark Allums]

On 5/17/19 10:43 PM, Ben Finney wrote:

Mark Allums  writes:


On 5/17/19 2:28 AM, Dominik George wrote:

Please explain, in detail, why.

https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html
https://www.adamhyde.net/another-good-reason-not-to-use-github/
https://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm


I'm not convinced,  Give me more.


If the above articles don't convince you, what would convince you that
has not already been said?

I'm sure you can appreciate that some people have unreasonable demands
for being convinced, and no amount of persuasion is enough. Can you give
an example of what reasonable presentation would be needed to convince
you on this matter?



Well, for a start, a lot of it seemed to be simple anti-Microsoft 
propaganda.  But The onus is not on me to provide reasons.  I simply 
asked for more info.


Mark

Re: please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

[Mark Allums]

On 5/17/19 2:28 AM, Dominik George wrote:

please do*never*  use GitHub for free software


Please explain, in detail, why.


If discrimination against parts of the community is not enough for you, here's 
why:

https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html

https://www.adamhyde.net/another-good-reason-not-to-use-github/

https://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm

-nik



I'm not convinced,  Give me more.

Mark

please do *never* use GitHub for free software, was Re: Salsa vs Github

[Mark Allums]

On 5/16/19 11:34 AM, Dominik George wrote:

please do*never*  use GitHub for free software


Please explain, in detail, why.

Mark

Re: Synaptic error message -- how to respond

[Mark Allums]

On 4/24/19 4:42 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 04/24/2019 03:42 PM, Thomas D Dial wrote:

On Wed, 2019-04-24 at 10:42 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have repeatedly received the following error message:

E: galternatives: package is in a very bad inconsistent state;
you should  reinstall it before attempting configuration


I don't recall what triggered it last week. Today I wanted to install
"apt-rdepends" which displayed the above error message. I closed the
message window. The box next to apt-rdepends was colored green
indicating it had been successfully installed. I did a test run of it
and got reasonably looking output.

I attempt to reinstall "galternatives" and receive:

E: /var/cache/apt/archives/galternatives_0.13.5+nmu4+deb9u1_all.deb:
subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
galternatives


What should I do next?


Look carefully at everything from the

"apt install --reinstall galternatives"

command to the end of the output from it. It shouldn't be all that long
but is likely to have diagnostic information you can use to identify and
correct the problem. If that doesn't clarify it enough, post the output,
  all of it. Many of us have seen install failures from time to time and
given enough output might have suggestions. Exit code from a script
bundled in the .deb file is too generic to be useful by itself.

Regards,
Tom Dial



Where the error is is fairly clear. But what to do about is not.
My interpretation is there a problem with the repository.

Not being sure how short the output would be I saved the output to a file.

My terminal session:

richard@fromdell:~$ su
Password: root@fromdell:/home/richard# apt install --reinstall 
galternatives > diagnostic


WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in 
scripts.


E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@fromdell:/home/richard#


The contents of file "diagnostic" is:

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 251 not 
upgraded.

3 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/148 kB of archives.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
(Reading database ... 

(Reading database ... 5%
(Reading database ... 10%

[snip repetitive info]
(Reading database ... 90%
(Reading database ... 95%
(Reading database ... 100%
(Reading database ... 176998 files and directories currently installed.)


Preparing to unpack .../galternatives_0.13.5+nmu4+deb9u1_all.deb ...



  File "/usr/bin/pyclean", line 63



    except (IOError, OSError), e:



 ^



SyntaxError: invalid syntax


dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit 
status 1



dpkg: trying script from the new package instead ...



  File "/usr/bin/pyclean", line 63



    except (IOError, OSError), e:



 ^



SyntaxError: invalid syntax


dpkg: error processing archive 
/var/cache/apt/archives/galternatives_0.13.5+nmu4+deb9u1_all.deb 
(--unpack):



 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1



Traceback (most recent call last):



  File "/usr/bin/pycompile", line 35, in 



    from debpython.version import SUPPORTED, debsorted, vrepr, \



  File "/usr/share/python/debpython/version.py", line 24, in 



    from ConfigParser import SafeConfigParser



ImportError: No module named 'ConfigParser'



dpkg: error while cleaning up:


 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit 
status 1



Errors were encountered while processing:



 /var/cache/apt/archives/galternatives_0.13.5+nmu4+deb9u1_all.deb



I see the error message but do not know what to do.
Thanks for pointers.



Try rearranging your python(s) in your PATH.  I.e., swap py2 with py3.

Or possibly your py3 version needs to be downgraded.

Something about your python versions.

Mark

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/25/19 8:48 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2019-02-25, Mark Allums  wrote:




This is not satisfactory.  Surely there is a way to neutralize a running
gvfsd/fuse mount on a device without reinstalling to whole OS.

Mark



man gvfsd says:

  ENVIRONMENT
GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE
If this environment variable is set, gvfsd will not start the fuse 
filesystem.

So maybe something like

  GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE=1
  export GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE

might be of aid in your neutralization efforts.


Doesn't work.




Or perhaps simply:

  gconftool --type Boolean --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_automount 
false

If not, sorry, and my respects to Martha.



I don't use Gnome/Nautilus.  MATE and/or Xfce.

Mark

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/24/19 2:26 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 2/24/19 6:42 AM, Mark Allums wrote:
Any advice as to how to stop the auto-mounter, gvfsd, or fuse, etc. 
from tying up my disk, or how to get fsck to scan it?


Use an OS and/or desktop that do not have automatic mounting.  I use 
Debian Stable with Xfce.  One of the first things I do after 
installation is to disable automounting via Thunar (Xfce file manager).



If that does not work, make your own Debian console-only live USB stick 
-- download the latest Debian Stable installer, burn it to media, 
connect a 16+ GB USB 3.0 flash drive, wipe the flash drive, power down, 
completely disconnect all HDD's and SSD's (power and data cables for 
internal drives, USB, Firewire, etc., cables for external drives), leave 
the USB flash drive connected, boot the install media, start the Debian 
installer, install to the USB flash drive, at the "Choose software to 
install" menu select "SSH server" and "standard system utilities" only, 
finish the install, reboot into the USB flash drive, remove the install 
media, SSH in from another machine, connect your USB dock and disk, and 
trouble-shoot.



David



This is not satisfactory.  Surely there is a way to neutralize a running 
gvfsd/fuse mount on a device without reinstalling to whole OS.


Mark

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/20/19 3:20 AM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

Maybe something simple like "lsof" command can shed some light on 
this problem?

 $ sudo lsof /dev/sdb
 $ sudo lsof /dev/sdb1


root@martha:~# lsof /dev/sdb
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system 
/run/user/1001/gvfs

  Output information may be incomplete.
root@martha:~# lsof /dev/sdb1
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system 
/run/user/1001/gvfs

  Output information may be incomplete.
root@martha:~#

There you have it. "lsof" command should not output anything if examined 
object is not in use.
I assume that "/dev/sdb1" gets auto-mounted by gvfsd [1] for user with 
UID 1001.
AFAIK GIO and company implements different mounting scheme without 
involving traditional kernel mounting and allow to restrict mounted 
devices only for user who mounted them.

So even root user can't access them if they are mounted by other user.
Try to use gio [2] utility to check status and unmount "/dev/sdb1" device.

[1] man gvfsd
[2] man gio


I man'ed them, but I got nothing useful for my trouble.  How does one 
stop gvfsd, or tell it not to mount anything (right now).  I'm about 
mid-grade with Linux skill, and the care and feeding of demons is a 
little above my pay grade.


root@martha:~# gio mount -u /dev/sdb1
gio: file:///dev/sdb1: Containing mount for file /dev/sdb1 not found
root@martha:~# gio mount -e /dev/sdb1
gio: file:///dev/sdb1: Containing mount for file /dev/sdb1 not found

Any advice as to how to stop the auto-mounter, gvfsd, or fuse, etc. from 
tying up my disk, or how to get fsck to scan it?


Mark

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/20/19 3:20 AM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

On 20.02.2019 11:16, Mark Allums wrote:

On 2/17/19 10:59 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

On 17.02.2019 1:21, Mark Allums wrote:

On 2/16/19 2:41 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2019-02-15, Mark Allums  wrote:
I just bought a new backup disk, and I want to check it. It's 
mounted in

a USB dock.

Running the following gives an error:

root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

What's causing this and how do I fix it?  It's not MATE; I tried
rebooting to rescue mode, but that didn't help.

Mark


People sometimes recommend 'fuser' in cases like these in order to
identify processes that might be accessing the drive.

I mean, the message says '/dev/sdb1 is in use.' Perhaps it is indeed.

  fuser -v -m /dev/sdb1

Worth a try, maybe, as no one else seems to have suggested it.


root@martha:~# fuser -v -m /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~#

No results.  Thanks.

Mark

Maybe something simple like "lsof" command can shed some light on 
this problem?

 $ sudo lsof /dev/sdb
 $ sudo lsof /dev/sdb1


root@martha:~# lsof /dev/sdb
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system 
/run/user/1001/gvfs

  Output information may be incomplete.
root@martha:~# lsof /dev/sdb1
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system 
/run/user/1001/gvfs

  Output information may be incomplete.
root@martha:~#

There you have it. "lsof" command should not output anything if examined 
object is not in use.
I assume that "/dev/sdb1" gets auto-mounted by gvfsd [1] for user with 
UID 1001.
AFAIK GIO and company implements different mounting scheme without 
involving traditional kernel mounting and allow to restrict mounted 
devices only for user who mounted them.

So even root user can't access them if they are mounted by other user.
Try to use gio [2] utility to check status and unmount "/dev/sdb1" device.

[1] man gvfsd
[2] man gio



The disk is not mounted.

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/20/19 3:19 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2019-02-20, Mark Allums  wrote:



Maybe something simple like "lsof" command can shed some light on this
problem?
      $ sudo lsof /dev/sdb
      $ sudo lsof /dev/sdb1


root@martha:~# lsof /dev/sdb
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1001/gvfs
Output information may be incomplete.
root@martha:~# lsof /dev/sdb1
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1001/gvfs
Output information may be incomplete.
root@martha:~#



From what I'm reading you'll have to be martha for this and not root

(*une fois n'est pas coutume*), if martha mounted.


martha is the name of the server.



From man mount.fuse:


  SECURITY
The fusermount program is installed set-user-gid to fuse. This is done to
allow users from  fuse group to mount their own filesystem implementations.
There must however be some limitations, in order to prevent Bad User from 
doing
nasty things.  Currently those limitations are:

1. The user can only mount on a mountpoint, for which it has write 
permission

2. The mountpoint is not a sticky directory which isn't owned by the 
user (like /tmp usually
   is)

3. No other user (including root) can access the contents of the 
mounted filesystem.




The disk is not mounted.

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/17/19 10:59 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

On 17.02.2019 1:21, Mark Allums wrote:

On 2/16/19 2:41 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2019-02-15, Mark Allums  wrote:
I just bought a new backup disk, and I want to check it. It's 
mounted in

a USB dock.

Running the following gives an error:

root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

What's causing this and how do I fix it?  It's not MATE; I tried
rebooting to rescue mode, but that didn't help.

Mark


People sometimes recommend 'fuser' in cases like these in order to
identify processes that might be accessing the drive.

I mean, the message says '/dev/sdb1 is in use.' Perhaps it is indeed.

  fuser -v -m /dev/sdb1

Worth a try, maybe, as no one else seems to have suggested it.


root@martha:~# fuser -v -m /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~#

No results.  Thanks.

Mark

Maybe something simple like "lsof" command can shed some light on this 
problem?

     $ sudo lsof /dev/sdb
     $ sudo lsof /dev/sdb1


root@martha:~# lsof /dev/sdb
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1001/gvfs
  Output information may be incomplete.
root@martha:~# lsof /dev/sdb1
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1001/gvfs
  Output information may be incomplete.
root@martha:~#




Also show us an output of "gdisk" command:
     $ sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb


root@martha:~# gdisk -l /dev/sdb
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 1.0.3

Partition table scan:
  MBR: protective
  BSD: not present
  APM: not present
  GPT: present

Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.
Disk /dev/sdb: 23437770752 sectors, 10.9 TiB
Model: ST12000NE0007-2G
Sector size (logical/physical): 512/4096 bytes
Disk identifier (GUID): 6AFF425F-836E-4001-840E-FF40A0875F53
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
Main partition table begins at sector 2 and ends at sector 33
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 23437770718
Partitions will be aligned on 2048-sector boundaries
Total free space is 4029 sectors (2.0 MiB)

Number  Start (sector)End (sector)  Size   Code  Name
   12048 23437768703   10.9 TiB8300
root@martha:~#

Mark

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

Seagate IronWolf Pro 12 TB
Buster, Orico USB 3.0 Dock


Running the following gives an error:

root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.



Does e2fsck work when the drive is connected to an internal SATA port?


Hasn't been tried, as I was not aware there was a difference between 
USB SATA and internal SATA. 




The idea is to devise a process of elimination to see if the problem is 
the drive, the USB dock, Debian, etc..


1.  Try another drive using that dock and Debian.


8 GB seagate drive, same error.



2.  Try another connection using that drive and Debian.


Tried different dock, rated for 12 TB.  Same result.

Used gparted to delete the original partition, create a new one.  The 
following ensued:



GParted 0.32.0 --enable-libparted-dmraid --enable-online-resize

Libparted 3.2
Create Primary Partition #1 (ext4, 10.91 TiB) on /dev/sdb  00:00:00( 
ERROR )


create empty partition  00:00:00( SUCCESS )

path: /dev/sdb1 (partition)
start: 2048
end: 23437768703
size: 23437766656 (10.91 TiB)
clear old file system signatures in /dev/sdb1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )

write 512.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 0  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 67108864  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 274877906944  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
write 512.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 12000136003584  00:00:00( 
SUCCESS )
write 4.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 12000136462336  00:00:00( 
SUCCESS )
write 8.00 KiB of zeros at byte offset 12000136519680  00:00:00( 
SUCCESS )

flush operating system cache of /dev/sdb  00:00:00( SUCCESS )
set partition type on /dev/sdb1  00:00:00( SUCCESS )

new partition type: ext4
create new ext4 file system  00:00:00( ERROR )

mkfs.ext4 -F -O ^64bit -L '' '/dev/sdb1'  00:00:00( ERROR )

mke2fs 1.44.5 (15-Dec-2018)
/dev/sdb1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem 
here!






3.  Try another OS using that drive and dock.



Win 10 with 2nd dock worked fine.  Not hard drive.  Not dock(s).  Seems 
to be Debian.  Systemd?


Mark

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/15/19 9:12 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 2/15/19 3:24 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
I just bought a new backup disk, and I want to check it. It's mounted 
in a USB dock.


Running the following gives an error:

root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

What's causing this and how do I fix it?  It's not MATE; I tried 
rebooting to rescue mode, but that didn't help.



On 2/15/19 5:37 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
 > ... Seagate IronWolf Pro 12 TB


What is the make and model of the USB dock, and is it rated for 12 TB?


It is an Orico, I don't know the model, and I was not aware there was a 
"rating" for disk sizes.








Does e2fsck work when the drive is connected to an internal SATA port?


Hasn't been tried, as I was not aware there was a difference between USB 
SATA and internal SATA.  Also, it would be highly inconvenient.  I'd 
like to try other possible solutions first.


Thanks,

Mark





I use HDD trays and mobile docks for my backup drives:

https://www.startech.com/HDD/Mobile-Racks/Black-Serial-ATA-Drive-Drawer-with-Shock-Absorbers-Professional-Series~DRW115SATBK 



I will consider this.





David



Thanks a lot,
Mark

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/16/19 2:41 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2019-02-15, Mark Allums  wrote:

I just bought a new backup disk, and I want to check it. It's mounted in
a USB dock.

Running the following gives an error:

root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

What's causing this and how do I fix it?  It's not MATE; I tried
rebooting to rescue mode, but that didn't help.

Mark


People sometimes recommend 'fuser' in cases like these in order to
identify processes that might be accessing the drive.

I mean, the message says '/dev/sdb1 is in use.' Perhaps it is indeed.

  fuser -v -m /dev/sdb1

Worth a try, maybe, as no one else seems to have suggested it.


root@martha:~# fuser -v -m /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~#

No results.  Thanks.

Mark

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/15/19 6:08 PM, deb wrote:


On 2/15/2019 6:24 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1 




Just curious, is it a Western Digital disk?





No, a Seagate IronWolf Pro 12 TB

Re: Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

On 2/15/19 6:21 PM, songbird wrote:

Mark Allums wrote:


I just bought a new backup disk, and I want to check it. It's mounted in
a USB dock.

Running the following gives an error:

root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

What's causing this and how do I fix it?  It's not MATE; I tried
rebooting to rescue mode, but that didn't help.


   sure you got the right disk?


100% sure.




   does it show up in the journal/log when you
unplug it and plug it back in?

   something may be grabbing it automatically perhaps
so check your fstab entry and make sure it isn't
being mounted automatically if you don't want it to
be done like that.  (is it appearing in /mnt ? ).

   check the label, uuid, partition table before doing
anything too serious to it (to make sure you really
do have the right device).

   i never have backup disks being mounted automatically
because i don't always even have them running.


   songbird



It isn't mounted.

Can't scan new disk

[Mark Allums]

I just bought a new backup disk, and I want to check it. It's mounted in 
a USB dock.


Running the following gives an error:

root@martha:~# umount /dev/sdb1
root@martha:~# e2fsck -c -c -C 0 -f -F -k -p /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 is in use.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

What's causing this and how do I fix it?  It's not MATE; I tried 
rebooting to rescue mode, but that didn't help.


Mark

Re: Why popular sites are looking ugly

[Mark Allums]

Debian is blazing fast and smooth on my box comparing to Windows.

The one problem I have is fonts rendering in Facebook, Twitter and some
others.

Concernig fonts I heard that there is some patent issue with freetype
which prevents autohinting. However it seems to be not the case as some
others site have really nice looking fonts (debian.org for example).



Try installing ttf-mscorefonts-installer.

Mark Allums

Re: Nvidia drivers

[Mark Allums]

Sorry,
I failed to read your whole message.  Make sure you have installed the 
the kbuild and headers for your current running kernel.  Then consider 
upgrading your nvidia driver to the latest version (in sid, still, I 
believe).  If you do the latter, be sure and use the kernel parameter I 
showed you in my earlier post.


Mark

On 7/5/18 8:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 7/5/18 5:42 PM, Francisco Mariano-Neto wrote:

Hey all,

I'm running kernel 4.15 with nvidia-driver 390.48-3 with no
problems. However, recently my kernel was automatically upgraded to 4.16
and it broke the nvidia driver.

Running 'dkms autoinstall --all' does not help, it complains
about not finding kernel headers (which are installed) and quits.

Any ideas on how I can rebuild the kernel module for the new
kernel version?

Thanks
Francisco


This requires a workaround, a kernel parameter at boot.

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="slab_common.usercopy_fallback=y"

Edit the config file like this,

$sudo gedit /etc/default/grub

Then run $sudo update-grub.

Re: Nvidia drivers

[Mark Allums]

On 7/5/18 5:42 PM, Francisco Mariano-Neto wrote:

Hey all,

I'm running kernel 4.15 with nvidia-driver 390.48-3 with no
problems. However, recently my kernel was automatically upgraded to 4.16
and it broke the nvidia driver.

Running 'dkms autoinstall --all' does not help, it complains
about not finding kernel headers (which are installed) and quits.

Any ideas on how I can rebuild the kernel module for the new
kernel version?

Thanks
Francisco


This requires a workaround, a kernel parameter at boot.

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="slab_common.usercopy_fallback=y"

Edit the config file like this,

$sudo gedit /etc/default/grub

Then run $sudo update-grub.

Re: Graphics issues debian 8.6

[Mark Allums]

On 10/11/2016 03:10 PM, Mark Neidorff wrote:


In a post on the mailing list, a user suggested installing:

#apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree-xserver-xorg-video-intel

but I can't seem to be able to download or even find that firmware file.



is nonfree enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list?

Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

[Mark Allums]

I was amazed a couple days ago, I switched my default browser to
chromium, more for S than any other reason, as its now quite long in
the tooth.  I had to go thru an email driven procedure to verify the pw
at PP, but then it worked.  And its kept on working...

And I've been using it for my daily dose of fake news from the mainsleaze
news sites, and except for cbsnews.com, nearly every video plays AND
stays in lip synch.

I can now buy something online, and it works again. I think I'll leave it
that way for a while. :-)

Firefox is still busted.

Cheers, Gene Heskett



Agreed.  I believed our problems were related, and I still do.  I have 
run into other problems since I installed libnss3 from sid, problems 
that I haven't had time to relate here on debian-user up to now.  For 
instance, I couldn't verify my email with a certain site using Firefox, 
the site simply said email not verified. (You know, how they send you an 
email, and you click on a link.)  I copied the link address to Google 
Chrome, and it worked, first try.  There are a number of examples like 
this that I won't bother to enumerate, because they are incidental.  The 
problems surfaced with an update to firefox, that's why I blame Firefox. 
 I think now that Gene's problems won't all be cured by installing a 
recent libnss3.  Some people blame the age of Gene's system, but I am 
running stretch, and I have run into the same problems (plural). You can 
blame my problems on my running Testing, but it's funny that both of us 
on two completely different systmes starting having trouble with the 
same update to Firefox/Iceweasel.


MArk Allums

Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

[Mark Allums]

On 09/08/2016 01:54 PM, Brian wrote:

On Thu 08 Sep 2016 at 09:30:54 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:


On 09/07/2016 05:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:


Maybe this is related to libns3 that someone mention, but we have to get
it from unstable? On wheezy, how?

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett



Installing libnss3 from sid/unstable solved the problem of web sites
unavailable with a security-related error message for me.


As you say "My problem is not YouTube, that was just an example."

An example of what? A relationship between a "next" button not working
with PayPal and video viewing? Have we left the world of Flash?

Maybe you could post the URLs of two or three web sites which are now
available to you without security-related error messages which you had
trouble with before. Jessie users would be interested whether they too
have to install libnss3 from unstable.


[Good technical advice snipped].



It's not flash.  YouTube doesn't use Flash by default anymore.

One other example is:

https://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/

Mark Allums

Re: [resolved] FireFox broken,

[Mark Allums]

No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem
is not YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages
telling me that the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after
updating crypto packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube
is insecure, hence the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal
could be a crypto problem, too.

Mark Allums


Maybe this is related to libns3 that someone mention, but we have to
get it from unstable? On wheezy, how?

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett


Installing libnss3 from sid/unstable solved the problem of web sites
unavailable with a security-related error message for me.

Enable Jessie, stretch, and/or Sid on your system by putting the
appropriate line in your /etc/apt/sources.list, such as:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib

and do apt-get update

(Remove the line -- or comment it out -- after you are satisfied you
are done.  Otherwise, all your updates will come from Sid--probably
not what you want.)

Mark Allums


That doesn't float unforch:

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libdbus-1-3 : Breaks: dbus (< 1.9.16-1~) but 1.6.8-1+deb7u6 is to be
installed
 libfontconfig1 : Breaks: xpdf (<= 3.03-11) but 3.03-10 is to be
installed
 libglib2.0-0 : Breaks: glib-networking (< 2.33.12) but 2.32.3-1 is to be
installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
caused by held packages.

So I've now commented that line back out of /etc/apt/sources.list.


Your attempt ran into some requirements that are prerequisites for 
libnss3.  For instance, dbus needs to be a certain minimum version, and 
wheezy is too old.  You will have to install another browser (i suggest 
opera for linux.  google chrome is another option, unless you prefer a 
free software option.)


An alternative is to try upgrading to Jessie, and then trying to install 
libnss3.


Good luck

Mark Allums

[resolved] FireFox broken,

[Mark Allums]

On 09/07/2016 05:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Wednesday 07 September 2016 16:43:40 Mark Allums wrote:


On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.

Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?

I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe
mode, with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single
packet seems to be issued when, after entering the paypal address
of the recipient, I click on the Next button adjacent to the
right.

FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also
behaves the same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10%
of the time.  After rebooting, it will not login at all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett


Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit
many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto
update for this, as well as a Firefox update.

Mark Allums


I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer
by default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report
that your browser doesn't have one.  Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-lates
t-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html
for how to get around this.


In case everybody missed it, adobe is back to supporting linux, and that
notice included a link, but when I clicked on the link, it offered me
the 4 year old flash.  Since some movies do play, I declined. ISTR the
notice was on /. a day or so back.


No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem is
not YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages telling
me that the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after updating
crypto packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube is
insecure, hence the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal could
be a crypto problem, too.

Mark Allums


Maybe this is related to libns3 that someone mention, but we have to get
it from unstable? On wheezy, how?

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett



Installing libnss3 from sid/unstable solved the problem of web sites 
unavailable with a security-related error message for me.


Enable Jessie, stretch, and/or Sid on your system by putting the 
appropriate line in your /etc/apt/sources.list, such as:


deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib

and do apt-get update

(Remove the line -- or comment it out -- after you are satisfied you are 
done.  Otherwise, all your updates will come from Sid--probably not what 
you want.)


Mark Allums

Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

[Mark Allums]

On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.

Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will
allow the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?

I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe
mode, with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single
packet seems to be issued when, after entering the paypal address
of the recipient, I click on the Next button adjacent to the
right.

FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also
behaves the same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10%
of the time.  After rebooting, it will not login at all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett


Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or
visit many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a
crypto update for this, as well as a Firefox update.

Mark Allums


I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer
by default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report
that your browser doesn't have one.  Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-latest-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html



> for how to get around this.





Here is my error message:  Is this message Flash-related?


Your connection is not secure

The website tried to negotiate an inadequate level of security.

www.youtube.com uses security technology that is outdated and vulnerable 
to attack. An attacker could easily reveal information which you thought 
to be safe. The website administrator will need to fix the server first 
before you can visit the site.


Error code: NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY

Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

[Mark Allums]

On 09/07/2016 03:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 09/07/2016 03:43 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.

Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?

I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode,
with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet
seems to
be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I
click on the Next button adjacent to the right.

FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves
the
same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.
After
rebooting, it will not login at all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett


Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit
many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto
update for this, as well as a Firefox update.

Mark Allums


I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer by
default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report that
your browser doesn't have one.  Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-latest-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html


for how to get around this.



No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem is not
YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages telling me that
the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after updating crypto
packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube is insecure, hence
the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal could be a crypto
problem, too.

Mark Allums



Replying to my own post...

No, you're right, part of the problem is that they set the kill bits for
older versions of Flash, and Linux Flash is ancient.  The good news is,
Adobe has relented and announced an up-to-date version of Flash for
Linux (probably due to unfixable security issues).  The bad news is,
it's not out yet, and I haven't seen the timetable for release.  There's
a beta...

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2469886/adobe-flash-goes-crawling-back-to-linux-for-some-security


Mark Allums






https://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2016/08/beta-news-flash-player-npapi-for-linux.html

Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

[Mark Allums]

On 09/07/2016 03:43 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.

Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?

I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode,
with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet seems to
be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I
click on the Next button adjacent to the right.

FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves
the
same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.
After
rebooting, it will not login at all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett


Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit
many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto
update for this, as well as a Firefox update.

Mark Allums


I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer by
default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report that
your browser doesn't have one.  Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-latest-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html

for how to get around this.



No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem is not
YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages telling me that
the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after updating crypto
packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube is insecure, hence
the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal could be a crypto
problem, too.

Mark Allums



Replying to my own post...

No, you're right, part of the problem is that they set the kill bits for 
older versions of Flash, and Linux Flash is ancient.  The good news is, 
Adobe has relented and announced an up-to-date version of Flash for 
Linux (probably due to unfixable security issues).  The bad news is, 
it's not out yet, and I haven't seen the timetable for release.  There's 
a beta...


http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2469886/adobe-flash-goes-crawling-back-to-linux-for-some-security

Mark Allums

Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

[Mark Allums]

On 09/07/2016 03:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 07/09/16 03:03 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.

Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?

I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode,
with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet seems to
be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I
click on the Next button adjacent to the right.

FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves the
same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.  After
rebooting, it will not login at all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett


Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit
many common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto
update for this, as well as a Firefox update.

Mark Allums


I think your problem is that Debian doesn't install a Flash viewer by
default. This leads to sites that check for such things to report that
your browser doesn't have one.  Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993902/browsers/how-to-get-the-latest-version-of-flash-on-firefox-for-linux-after-adobes-abandonment.html
for how to get around this.


No, I have installed Flash, and I keep it up to date.  My problem is not 
YouTube, that was just an example.  I get error messages telling me that 
the web sites are not secure, coincidentally after updating crypto 
packages and Firefox.  I don't believe that YouTube is insecure, hence 
the problem.  Not sending money through PayPal could be a crypto 
problem, too.


Mark Allums

Re: FireFox broken, sends no data to paypal on payment screen.

[Mark Allums]

On 09/07/2016 01:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

Greetings all;

Online business seems to have hit a roadblock.

Is there anything I can change in the about:config that will allow
the "next" button to work on the https paypal pages?

I have even tried it a couple time after restarting in the safe mode,
with all plugins disabled.  Dead in water, not a single packet seems to
be issued when, after entering the paypal address of the recipient, I
click on the Next button adjacent to the right.

FWIW, the old, hasn't ever been updated google chromium also behaves the
same, when I can get it to login, which is about 10% of the time.  After
rebooting, it will not login at all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

Firefox is definitely broken.  I can't view YouTube videos or visit many 
common web sites.  I get a security warning.  I blame a crypto update 
for this, as well as a Firefox update.


Mark Allums

Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch

[Mark Allums]

On 06/23/2015 11:45 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015, Zebediah C. McClure wrote:

Non-booting system because of race condition in drive mounting.


The ordering of drives by systemd is based on dependencies, and there
shouldn't be issues.

But that said, if you've found one, please file a bug with enough
details to reproduce it.


This happens a lot.  Reproducing the problem is hard to do when it 
randomly crops up every 10th boot or so (yes, I need to reboot a lot).



I haven't tracked it down yet but I also have sound problems on my
desktop that only appear when systemd is around,


Sound problems of what kind?


I too have sound problems.  Mainly no sound on startup, problem started 
during switch to systemd.



systemd is [...] the only package that has caused me any headache.


There certainly have been bugs in systemd, but at least half of the
problems you've listed don't appear to be bugs in systemd, but are
possibly bugs in some other package.


We beg to differ.



In any event, please file the bugs if you'd like them fixed. Otherwise,
no one will know about them and/or fix them.


How do we file bugs that are so difficult to reproduce?





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Re: Screen goes black after install

[Mark Allums]

On 06/17/2015 10:12 AM, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote:

Hello everyone.

I recently bought and installed a PCI ATI Rage 128 Video card on my pc.
I then installed Debian Jessie on the pc.
After booting the following lines appear:

Loading, Please wait...
fsck from util-linux 2.25.2
/dev/sda5: clean, 48855/7553024 files, 821115/38202368 blocks
_

And then the screen goes black..nothing appears.
I have tested the video card on windows and it works well.

I also want to run debian on non-graphical mode..I did not install any
desktop environment.I want to run it on command line as a server.


Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and see if a login prompt appears.  If it does, the 
machine is trying to start X and failing.  I would try to get X running, 
but if you don't want X, you should probably check and see if a DM (such 
as lightdm) is installed, then go from there.





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Re: Moving from 56k modem

[Mark Allums]

On 06/17/2015 11:03 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

My connectivity for ~3 decades has been at = 56k.
Current ISP abandoning that market ;/

I do not wish DSL, cable, nor satellite as they restrict me to one
physical location.

I was assuming that meant connecting via cell network.
Is that correct?
What questions should I be asking?

Please note that I am strongly text, rather than graphics, oriented.

Comments /or questions I should be asking.

Thank you.


You want Cable or DSL *and* a mobile 3G/4G modem.  The wireless thing 
will be severely restricted in the the amount of data you can move 
through it.  Typically 5-6 GBs per month.  It will be expensive if you 
go over the limit.  Cable or DSL will have drastically higher data caps, 
and are more reliable generally.


Unlimited wireless exists in theory, but it is still restricted, 
typically by throttling.


Mark



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Re: No sound at boot

[Mark Allums]

 I have a decent setup with an ASUS ROG motherboard (overkill for 
Linux, I know). I was tooling along nicely, when, after an update (back 
when Jessie was Testing), sound quit working at boot. Of course, the 
first thing I tried was root@persephone:~# modprobe snd-hda-intel and 
that got me sound again. However, I have to run it manually after every 
boot. What steps do I need to take to get it to load at boot again? 
Re-Installing ALSA does nothing, of course, and I guess I have no Google 
skills, because all I can find with Google is advice to reinstall ALSA.

Take a look in /etc/modules-load.d - you can add a file called, say,
sound.conf there with the contents:

snd-hda-intel

That should load that module on boot. I haven't tested it, as I've
never had the need to force a module to load in recent years, but it
should work.

Petter


Didn't work.  Nor did adding snd-hda-intel line to /etc/modules.

Those two do the same thing.


Any more suggestions?  I'm running Jessie. Have been since Jessie was
testing, about three months after the release of Wheezy.  So it's
seen a lot of changes, the biggest of which was the transition from
sysvinit to systemd. I should have fixed it a lot sooner, but as long
as I could fix it by running modprobe, I wasn't in a big hurry.
Anyway, if this had worked, it feels like a workaround, and isn't
really getting to the actual cause of the problem.  So, any more
suggestions are welcome.

Well, maybe it is dependent on another module that for some reason
doesn't get loaded automatically when you try to load snd-hda-intel,
but that has been loaded later in the boot sequence? (Although I have
difficulty imagining how this could happen).

Try to run lsmod | grep snd, and add the modules that snd-hda-intel
depend on before the line loading it in the relevant file
in /etc/modules-load.d or in /etc/modules.

root@persephone:~# lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 49263  1
snd_hda_codec_realtek63196  1
snd_hda_codec_generic63045  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel  26387  5
snd_hda_controller 26938  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 108525  5 
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller

snd_hwdep  17244  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm_oss49005  0
snd_mixer_oss  21998  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm88901  5 
snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller

snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
snd69340  20 
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_mixer_oss

soundcore  13031  2 snd,snd_hda_codec


 To actually fix the problem: What do you see when you go through the 
logs after booting, related to sound, and when you load the module 
manually? There may be something in the logs if you read them carefully, 
if you snip out the relevant parts and post those here, I will try to 
help. Petter
Which logs do you suggest?  (I am only medium grade familiar with the 
sysadmin tasks of Linux.  Not a pro or a guru.)


Mark


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Re: No sound at boot

[Mark Allums]

On 05/24/2015 04:50 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2015 04:12:03 -0500
Mark Allums m...@allums.top wrote:


Try to run lsmod | grep snd, and add the modules that
snd-hda-intel depend on before the line loading it in the relevant
file in /etc/modules-load.d or in /etc/modules.

root@persephone:~# lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 49263  1
snd_hda_codec_realtek63196  1
snd_hda_codec_generic63045  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel  26387  5
snd_hda_controller 26938  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 108525  5
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_hwdep  17244  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm_oss49005  0
snd_mixer_oss  21998  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm88901  5
snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
snd69340  20
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore  13031  2 snd,snd_hda_codec

So, it depends on snd, snd-pcm, snd-hda-codec, snd-hda-controller (if I
didn't miss any). The first entry is the name of the module, the second
is the size, third is number of modules that are dependent on it, and
the rest are a list of dependent modules. Try to add the ones I listed
(I'm not sure about the order, but probably the order I listed them in)
before the line that loads snd-hda-intel.


   To actually fix the problem: What do you see when you go through
   the
logs after booting, related to sound, and when you load the module
manually? There may be something in the logs if you read them
carefully, if you snip out the relevant parts and post those here, I
will try to help. Petter
Which logs do you suggest?  (I am only medium grade familiar with the
sysadmin tasks of Linux.  Not a pro or a guru.)

/var/log/kern.log would be a prime candidate :)

Reboot your system. Make sure *not* to load snd-hda-intel. Take a look
at kern.log, and examine the parts that have messages from the sound
subsystem. Look for errors/warnings/etc. Open a second terminal, and run
tail -f /var/log/kern.log, and see what messages are then added when
you load the module in your first terminal.

It might be easier for you to read if you, after running tail
-f /var/log/kern.log and getting the last few messages, hit enter a
couple of times to get a few blank lines between the last message from
the kernel so far and the first message you get when loading the module.
Or just look at the time stamps.

Petter



This line was the result of trying to use the volume control with no sound:

May 24 05:58:04 persephone kernel: [ 3101.238924] mate-volume-con[3721]: 
segfault at b0 ip 0040ce2f sp 7fff7247d3d0 error 4 in 
mate-volume-control[40+14000]



This was after the modprobe:


May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.669399] snd_hda_intel 
:00:1b.0: irq 59 for MSI/MSI-X
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.669512] snd_hda_intel 
:04:00.1: Disabling MSI
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.669520] snd_hda_intel 
:04:00.1: Handle VGA-switcheroo audio client
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.694390] sound hdaudioC0D0: 
autoconfig: line_outs=3 (0x14/0x15/0x16/0x0/0x0) type:line
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.694394] sound hdaudioC0D0:
speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.694397] sound hdaudioC0D0:
hp_outs=1 (0x1b/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.694398] sound hdaudioC0D0:
mono: mono_out=0x0
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.694400] sound hdaudioC0D0:
dig-out=0x11/0x1e
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.694402] sound hdaudioC0D0:
inputs:
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.694404] sound 
hdaudioC0D0:  Front Mic=0x19
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.694407] sound 
hdaudioC0D0:  Rear Mic=0x18
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.694408] sound 
hdaudioC0D0:  Line=0x1a
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.694410] sound hdaudioC0D0:
dig-in=0x1f
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.706747] input: HDA Intel PCH 
Front Mic as /devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input9
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.706986] input: HDA Intel PCH 
Rear Mic as /devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input10
May 24 06:14:14 persephone kernel: [ 4072.707903] input: HDA Intel PCH 
Line as /devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input11

:

I couldn't spot anything before the modprobe that is relevant to sound, 
including hardware detection or loading of driver modules. Heres a 
listing of loaded drivers:


May 24 05:06:57 persephone kernel: [   29.811038] Modules linked in: 
ebtable_filter ebtables ip6table_filter ip6_tables iptable_filter 
ip_tables x_tables binfmt_misc vmw_vsock_vmci_transport vsock

Re: No sound at boot

[Mark Allums]

On 05/24/2015 04:13 AM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2015, Mark Allums wrote:

No such line in /etc/fstab. However, a line similar to above is in 
/etc/mtab. (The defaults are not there.  All of the options are 
spelled out.)


  I have the same thing on 2 laptops, and the directory /sys exists.
  I imagine it is mounted directly by the kernel...
  ls /sys gives:

  block  bus  class  dev  devices  firmware  fs  hypervisor kernel  
module  power


  Is it the case for you?
  If yes, I think it is useles to add the line to fstab
  But that that doesn't explain the sys fs error. I just found via 
google

  that it is always associated with sound card problem...

cheers,


Yes, it is the first line when I typed: root@persephone:~# mount:

sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)

and those are the same contents of /sys for me as for you.  I will 
Google sysfs error.


Thanks,

Mark



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Re: No sound at boot

[Mark Allums]

On 05/24/2015 04:50 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2015 04:12:03 -0500
Mark Allums m...@allums.top wrote:


Try to run lsmod | grep snd, and add the modules that
snd-hda-intel depend on before the line loading it in the relevant
file in /etc/modules-load.d or in /etc/modules.

root@persephone:~# lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 49263  1
snd_hda_codec_realtek63196  1
snd_hda_codec_generic63045  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel  26387  5
snd_hda_controller 26938  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 108525  5
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_hwdep  17244  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm_oss49005  0
snd_mixer_oss  21998  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm88901  5
snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
snd69340  20
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore  13031  2 snd,snd_hda_codec

So, it depends on snd, snd-pcm, snd-hda-codec, snd-hda-controller (if I
didn't miss any). The first entry is the name of the module, the second
is the size, third is number of modules that are dependent on it, and
the rest are a list of dependent modules. Try to add the ones I listed
(I'm not sure about the order, but probably the order I listed them in)
before the line that loads snd-hda-intel.
Nope. still nothing.  #tail -f /var/log/kern.log, this last try, had a 
line after the modprobe that was disturbing, but I still got sound:


May 24 06:50:43 persephone kernel: [  265.501340] sound hdaudioC1D0: 
hda-codec: out of range cmd 0:5:707:ffbf


Contents of sound.conf in /etc/modules-load.d:

snd
snd-pcm
snd-hda-codec
snd-hda-controller
snd-hda-intel

I didn't quite follow how you parsed the lsmod dependencies.

Thanks,

Mark


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Re: No sound at boot

[Mark Allums]

On 05/24/2015 01:15 AM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

On Sat, 23 May 2015, Mark Allums wrote:


. . .
Re-Installing ALSA does nothing, of course, and I guess I have no 
Google skills, because all I can find with Google is advice to 
reinstall ALSA.

. . .

  hi Mark,
  I had almost the same problem, although the sound didn't work after
  modprobe.
  What do you mean by re-installing? If it is aptitude reinstall, that
  didn't work for me. Did you try purge and then install for alsa
  packages? As I said, that worked for me.

cheers,



That's what I did, purge and install.


Thanks,

Mark


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