Screen clear on terminal logout (was Re: Orphaned User Accounts?)
On 11/3/2010 9:30 AM, Carlos Mennens wrote: I always wanted to tell them I hate the fact that when 'root' logs out, the terminal / bash window doesn't clear like it does for normal users. I think this should be a Debian default behavior. I can't see a reason beyond over looking it as to why all my commands are still visible as root after I log out. Even normal users have their last login shown. its not root-specific, its a problem with the login getter. -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: improve screen resolution
On 11/2/2010 12:20 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote: [stuff] I've had exactly similar problems... And mine were solved by building my own Xorg configuration. Part of this was by going around and doing VERY general google searches about my laptop and linux/X. The other part of it was going and getting another dist to generate an xorg.conf that worked (somewhat), copying that onto a flash drive or to dropbox or something. Here's what I think /your/ xorg.conf file is going to look like: ---8--- xorg.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer EndSection Section Device Identifier SiS Graphics Adapter Driver sis EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device SiS Graphics Adapter Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x768 1024x768 800x600 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse InputDevice Synaptics Touchpad EndSection 8 Its worth a shot. -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Orphaned User Accounts?
On 11/2/2010 3:09 PM, Carlos Mennens wrote: [snip] man:x:6:12:man:/var/cache/man:/bin/sh man has its own user. Really! lp:x:7:7:lp:/var/spool/lpd:/bin/sh For printer daemon, as well as a few other things mail:x:8:8:mail:/var/mail:/bin/sh system mail needs a user. news:x:9:9:news:/var/spool/news:/bin/sh linked with above, usually uucp:x:10:10:uucp:/var/spool/uucp:/bin/sh Ditto. proxy:x:13:13:proxy:/bin:/bin/sh Not sure. www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh Apache2 will run as this user. Most /any/ httpd will. backup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/sh used for Bacula, DeJa Dup and friends. list:x:38:38:Mailing List Manager:/var/list:/bin/sh mailman, mlmmj,etc. irc:x:39:39:ircd:/var/run/ircd:/bin/sh used by ircd. gnats:x:41:41:Gnats Bug-Reporting System (admin):/var/lib/gnats:/bin/sh GNATS runs as a user. libuuid:x:100:101::/var/lib/libuuid:/bin/sh LibUUID needs a user to run as to keep track of some things IIRC. I may be wrong. I'm trying to understand why Debian developers slip in 'games', 'lp', 'news', 'uucp', 'www-data', 'list', 'irc', etc etc etc. Now if I install 'Apache', 'CUPS', 'Exim/Postfix', etc etc etc then I understand why those accounts would appear but why do these accounts appear in a fresh minimal installation with no trace of their respected packages? I also label them as 'orphaned' because if you try to remove the user and their default home directory, you get an error that those directories don't exist. For example: They aren't orphaned at all. They're just /user declarations/ used by some daemons, startup scripts, etc. There's also users like Nobody. Nobody exists, but isn't anyone. Is there a way to understand why Debian is configured so by default? Are there official developers that browse this list that could give insight to maybe a security reason or any other as to why we have these 'orphaned' accounts in a fresh / new minimal install? Mainly because there's so many things that CAN use these users. Not every service gets run as root, nor should it. Thanks! Many of you would just say, ...just remove what you do want however in my opinion, the last thing someone needs to do after installing a fresh system is start removing stuff. Users in *nix and friends are a way to seperate out who can touch what. This is a security thing, and something that isn't really all that new or unique to a Debian box. Here's a fresh Fedora install: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/zsh daemon:x:1:1:daemon:/usr/sbin:/bin/sh bin:x:2:2:bin:/bin:/bin/sh sys:x:3:3:sys:/dev:/bin/sh sync:x:4:65534:sync:/bin:/bin/sync games:x:5:60:games:/usr/games:/bin/sh man:x:6:12:man:/var/cache/man:/bin/sh lp:x:7:7:lp:/var/spool/lpd:/bin/sh mail:x:8:8:mail:/var/mail:/bin/sh www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/sh indrora:x:1000:1000:Morgan Gangwere,,,:/home/indrora:/bin/zsh sshd:x:104:65534::/var/run/sshd:/usr/sbin/nologin *nix and its friends use LOTS of users to do LOTS of things. I make users on a regular basis when I do something that should be chroot'd or otherwise kept in check. -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Size of minimal Debian installation
On 10/30/2010 9:49 AM, Jason Hsu, embedded engineer, Linux user wrote: I have a minimal Debian installation on a 2 GB VirtualBox hard drive. By minimal, I mean the 150 MB Netinstall ISO without any of the packages (not even the base system) I was given the option to install during the initial installation process. And I haven't even added anything yet. There's minimal and then there's /minimal/. Debian's netinst does add some things, and some of the additions can be a bit awkward. For one, the Base System package actually adds quite a bit. Here's the biggest hogs: gcc and friends manpages (Puppy iirc uses none) initrd/kernel (puppy uses a REALLY stripped down kernel and a REALLY well compressed one at that) kernel modules (there's some added overhead) apt's cache any and all graphical environments. When I go to the / directory and type du -s, I get 355960, or nearly 360 MB. Sounds about right for the netinst's defaults. I'm using a dynamic (rather than fixed) hard drive, and its size is 601 MB. Sounds like your VM is playing games. Dynamic usually means there's more accounting to do. How can Debian with nothing added on be almost triple the size of Puppy Linux? I've heard that Debian can be configured to be just as light or even lighter than Puppy Linux. Puppy pales in comparison to TinyCore (10MB with X and a wm and a package manager) And do Debian and the host OS show different sizes for my virtual Debian installation? Why is there a 241 MB difference? The error is almost double the size of Puppy Linux. I again call shenanigans on your VM. -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Weirdness in ls colorization
On 10/23/2010 11:10 AM, Tom H wrote: The Please... files are executable. That and they're bold (Which will cause SO much heartache if you use a custom font like Progsole.) -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: LaTeX, Texlive-luatex, Biber installation procedure
On 10/21/2010 7:48 AM, brownh wrote: +-- | Am I correct to assume that if I install texlive, texlive-luatex, and | CTAN biber in that order, I should end up with a fully functional TeX | Live 2010, with LaTeX2e macros and biblatex support? +-- I use Texlive-latex-recommended and go from there. +-- | I run into discussions about setting up some PATHs to support | tlmgr. That's easily done, but I don't want to do it if an | installation of texlive-luatex sets up the needed paths | automatically. Does it? +-- Debian theoretically does Most Things Automagically(tm) so you should be okay on that. I've not had much problems doing just normal typesetting. -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Stopping sound preview
On 10/22/2010 4:43 PM, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Nautilus. How counterintuitive. To me, anyway. I should have realized. GNOME has hidden away most of its settings panels deep into menus -- and the GDM oldschool launcher was my all time favorite -- gdm3 is evil looking to me. People wonder why the Linux desktop market is vanishing... -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Continue without install grub (y/n) confusion
On 10/18/2010 7:46 AM, Bhasker C V wrote: [snip] Bug in Squeeze installer. Here's the LENNY sequence: [...] - grub install - grub check install - possible LILO install - check LILO install / config [...] here's the SQUEEZE install [ ... Install base system ... ] , - grub check install - Saying No will loop back ' - grub install - Possible LILO install - Check LILO install / config. GRUB2 doesn't know what the heck is going on. It goes BACK a step going Cool I should install GRUB!... Previous step says I've been here and we get a loop. -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Squeeze can't handle ATI M3's anymore. (X11 issue)
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:12:52 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: It can fail. Xorg autodetection is not a rocket science :-) I'm just rather astonished that its failing more than it used to. I would look at xorg logs (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) and if you estimate convenient (and _not using_ ati proprietary drivers), write down a bug report. X logs -8- Xorg.0.log -8- indr...@snapdragon:/var/log$ tail Xorg.0.log (**) ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device: always reports core events (**) ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device: Device: /dev/input/event8 (II) ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device: Found keys (II) ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device: Configuring as keyboard (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device (type: KEYBOARD) (**) Option xkb_rules evdev (**) Option xkb_model pc105 (**) Option xkb_layout us (II) PM Event received: Capability Changed (II) PM Event received: Capability Changed -8- Xorg.0.log.old -8- (II) ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device: Close (II) UnloadModule: evdev (II) TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint: Close (II) UnloadModule: evdev (II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Close (II) UnloadModule: evdev (II) Sleep Button: Close (II) UnloadModule: evdev (II) Power Button: Close (II) UnloadModule: evdev (II) Video Bus: Close (II) UnloadModule: evdev (II) UnloadModule: synaptics ---88--- the Vesa driver however just doesn't work on these old 8MB M3's. Something happens and it locks up with either a trashed screen (What looks to be the GRUB background splash) As for proprietary drivers, this doesn't *have* any -- they were dropped from support long ago, and now have nice DRI support at 1024x768! -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc BOFH Excuse #395: Irradiated tapes. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Chromium Browser Paralysis
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:30:02 +0200 David Baron wrote: I have had chromium browser (not Google's) suddenly eat all my system's memory (2G worth), step into swap, and the system is paralyzed. I can eventually kill it without a need to hit the big switch. a) did you install via a package? b) If so, why? Chromium gets new builds once every 20 minutes or so... so if you're running Chromium, then you need to make sure you've gotten the latest and greatest. see http://build.chromium.org/ for the buildbot waterfall and all sorts of goodies. If someone's locked the tree to hack on something, it might take a little longer, so beware. Check that you've first just got a bad build (it happens) and go from there. if the problem persists, try with another browser like Kazehakase or Midori to see if its a WebKit related issue. If that does help, start filing bugs in google's tracker for Chromium. Remember, using Chromium is just another phrase for Being a google guinea pig -- Morgan Gangwere PGP key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc BOFH Excuse #405: Router lost in hedge maze. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
OT Firewire networking (was: Ethernet port dead)
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:15:12 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: But... what kind of device is that? Are you using an adapter (firewire to ethernet)? :-? the 1394 standard says that a computer which supports 1394 must also support 1394 networking. Short end of it, if you need to move some data between two 1394 capable computers, you use that. They act like normal, everyday, nondescript ether ports in software, no less. -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc BOFH Excuse #32: Solar flares causing disk errors. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Chromium Browser Paralysis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:35:23 -0400 Jordan Metzmeier wrote: I don't think advising against using Debian software is in the best interest of Debian or its users. Providing debs of Chromium is like providing debs of Enlightenment's DR17 branch: Its out of date by the time the package is built. For Chrome I can understand as the Chrome release cycle is on par with most others -- about 4 months per release with at least a modicum of stability. the problem is that with Chromium you are never guaranteed stability in any form. As much as I like chromium (I use it as my default browser on Windows and Linux, and soon on Mac too) the release cycle is too fast to allow for appropriate packaging given the speed of Debian packaging. - -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc BOFH excuse #495: Lack of entropy in empathy generator. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMufqmAAoJEEURiCSotvJDbVQP/0L0WPDZhCLyDGVUKZ8iwyED ptKTOjspIHQepgewpp6JK7kyxVRzw0+yhLnm4nORRzR8l/IkEM4Gdyy79KswzRBT zsP0BEFuhW+yeUDh/m/jNSqQbApIN48Mlq/40rkekMXYz0BlDy2PNdzpfO2ya2Tl UJLCyxTxzCXTF3ruIYjSz6bYhEt4L1ZSFz5QgnA0c+kiQsbGY3kG7aiEmv0Ailp5 3WOFyCF5WYymG/YORebcKLJagVZ3XFBNBthGidheL/wUgns7q/Vwy3hqhwmi3IDF djQVpH9owSb05kKVT+cACAvPerj3bVu0JZ/o+vM5hQ1+tkPjlh535RudXo685hl0 sULIy2r4mFm3iyXGYMGtkYEJXCteGZea7BxiKN/d591VRW3k8dTeXa95ZlAq+ALG 88KNT7UTdHJmJ7DAL/zY/i8SSEzq4dn2THtKW7kpM2a/Lh9mENQq58P0rVyqGjTg /YhFCnzblv6wiwTuRQujmlBebhtl5WFvloaz3Ad1NRP0DWbkUsylbeQ00BwjMFHO Rf1KXNgc+jj+/hZR4PxNJIeW4PwP7BvMaC4JyYTV161IGV6mOzGQMbFYEcU745VR TtrX38A2Q+MU+S2vO7ymPRT8bcNNvMcbyogOb7JQqkrMgng6iEE2VRaWe4ejj0Ck 6gpI/K1Jjvh1fYWH5DIM =XIzr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Ethernet port dead
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:30:24 +0200 Rodolfo Medina wrote: [...] Had any electrical storms? Switches that have been acting up? New carpeting? Power outages? Brownouts? Etc? Sounds like the device is busted, frankly. -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc BOFH Excuse #405: Ethernet out of Ether. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: ping packet loss when size gt 1500
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:11:46 +0100 Adam Hardy wrote:
[stuff]
Nope you're not the only one:
( 4:~ )%ping -s 1473 208.245.107.9
PING 208.245.107.9 (208.245.107.9) 1473(1501) bytes of data.
^C --- 208.245.107.9 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3022ms
this also appears to violate the PING standard:
( 5:~ )%ping -s 1470 208.245.107.9
PING 208.245.107.9 (208.245.107.9)
1470(1498) bytes of data. From 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=1 Frag needed and
DF set (mtu = 1492) ^C
--- 208.245.107.9 ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 0 received, +1 errors, 100% packet loss, time
6040ms
Normal PINGs seem to be fine:
( 7:~ )%ping 208.245.107.9
PING 208.245.107.9 (208.245.107.9) 56(84) bytes of data. 64
bytes from 208.245.107.9: icmp_req=1 ttl=118 time=150 ms 64 bytes from
208.245.107.9: icmp_req=2 ttl=118 time=147 ms 64 bytes from
208.245.107.9: icmp_req=3 ttl=118 time=149 ms 64 bytes from
208.245.107.9: icmp_req=4 ttl=118 time=146 ms ^C
--- 208.245.107.9 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 146.120/148.259/150.102/1.622 ms
The device has a DNS of mktgw1.ibllc.com \footnote{Isn't this sounding
like insecure.org now?} and doesn't respond to nmap's pings. I call
fault on their part.
Are you on a PPPoE connection directly or on a NAT'd network?
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MTU set too high.
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Re: Seahorse Terminal Messages
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:50:23 -0600 pcr p...@pcrt.us wrote: I used Seahorse version 2.30.1 from the command line today and saw these messages in my terminal; Are they important and could someone tell the developer for me (I don't know how)? ~$ seahorse ** Message: init gpgme version 1.2.0 (gnome-help:5094): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tool_button_new: assertion `icon_widget == NULL || GTK_IS_MISC (icon_widget)' failed [etc] No real need to fear... this is... unforunately standard GLib/GTK assert(1==1) cruft from the idea that the console is useless. I see more of this when I fire up Iceweasel than anything -- Just tons of messages that dont mean anything other than LIFE IS GOOD! Try firing up Evolution or the GNOME panel... Its... scary what developers seem to think its a good idea to pummel stdout with. -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc BOFH Excuse #954: Standard input using non-standard format. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Squeeze can't handle ATI M3's anymore. (X11 issue)
Hi y'all I'm running Squeeze on a few boxes now and I've noticed something in the X11 packages... It doesn't like my ATI M3. Its a Dell Latitude C600 with dreadfully low amounts of RAM, but that's not the big problem... What happens is: I start up the box Everything looks good until GDM starts X starts up Box graphically locks. I can SSH into the machine and write out an xorg.conf, and magically *behold!* it works. Worked on Lenny, works under *ubuntu and with Crunchbang (it includes an xorg.conf IIRC...) Once you have it configured using xorg.conf, it works fine, but X's autodetection seems to have failed more and more over time... -- Morgan Gangwere PGP Key at http://indrora.homelinux.org/gpg_key.asc Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: resume from hibernate [in squeeze]
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:21:58 +0200 [...] I've been noticing the same basic problem. I've installed acpid, hibernate, laptop-detect etc and even rebooted and when I try to suspend, it doesnt come up right. Could this be a lack of the uswusup package in squeeze? -- Morgan Gangwere BOFH excuse #394 Secure shell immediately. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: resume from hibernate
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:14:28 +0200
Petr Voralek wrote:
[stuff]
/etc/default/grub? Something like:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=vga=791 resume=/dev/sda2
where is especially important part 'resume=/dev/sda2' ('/dev/sda2' is
swap partition on my thinkpad)...
I too have a partition for this. /dev/sda2 is labeled in my boot as
resume partiton. It doesn't matter if I use pm-hibernate or
hibernate... here's my log:
%indroracat /var/log/hibernate.log [/home/indrora]
11:29 Starting suspend at Sat Sep 25 10:51:18 MDT 2010
hibernate: [01] Executing CheckLastResume ...
hibernate: [01] Executing CheckRunlevel ...
hibernate: [01] Executing LockFileGet ...
hibernate: [01] Executing NewKernelFileCheck ...
hibernate: [10] Executing EnsureSysfsPowerStateCapable ...
hibernate: [11] Executing XHacksSuspendHook1 ...
hibernate: [59] Executing RemountXFSBootRO ...
hibernate: [89] Executing SaveKernelModprobe ...
hibernate: [91] Executing ModulesUnloadBlacklist ...
Some modules failed to unload: snd_maestro3
hibernate: Aborting suspend due to errors in ModulesUnloadBlacklist
(use --force to override). hibernate: [90] Executing ModulesLoad ...
hibernate: [89] Executing RestoreKernelModprobe ...
hibernate: [85] Executing XHacksResumeHook2 ...
hibernate: [70] Executing ClockRestore ...
hibernate: [70] Executing ClockRestore ...
hibernate: [59] Executing RemountXFSBootRW ...
hibernate: [11] Executing XHacksResumeHook1 ...
hibernate: [01] Executing NoteLastResume ...
hibernate: [01] Executing LockFilePut ...
Resumed at Sat Sep 25 10:51:21 MDT 2010
Apparently, my ess maestro3 card must be getting in the way... but it
doesn't go away if I unload the driver manually.
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Re: Mainline kernel source curiosity
On 9/21/2010 7:27 AM, Curt Howland wrote: On Monday 20 September 2010, Arthur Machlas was heard to say: My guess is you need to build the header at least, and perhaps the source. It depends on how you're building the modules I suppose. In any case, you'll have to run either fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version -curt1.0 kernel_headers fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version -curt1.0 kernel_image Ok, I did build the headers as a package, and installed it, so now there's a /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.36-rc4-curt1.0/ and the same error comes up: /var/log/vbox-install.log Makefile:170: *** Error: /usr/src/linux (version 2.6.36-rc4) does not match the current kernel (version 2.6.36-rc4-curt1.0). Stop. Had the same problem! Instead of using --append-to-version, use the version append in *kernel config* make menuconfig, search around for Append to version make-kpkg doesn't monger linux/version.h IIRC. -- Morgan Gangwere Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Google Inc. Could Be Compliant to the Chinese Government in Beijing, People's Republic of China (PRC)
On 9/20/2010 7:32 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:58:13AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: .snip According to some Google employees I've heard from - during late December and early January Google undertook a massive review of staff recruitment processes in China, and system security, with just that scenario in mind. China's desire to access Google's data is probably no stronger than say, Mossad's, NSA's, etc. etc. I've no idea how much money China has. Be assured, they have enough. Not enough to make google violate their own agreements. -- Morgan Gangwere Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ps - Illegal Instruction
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:48:49 -0500 Mark Allums mark wrote: Your problem is probably Virtual PC. Try Virtualbox (free) or VMware server (free) or VMware Desktop (paid and kind of expensive but much more usable for newbies than server). Its a known problem. very much a known problem! its something with the software emulation of certain bits of hardware... From what I know. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Why can't ID3 tags be modified in GNOME file's properties?
On 9/14/2010 6:57 PM, Mark wrote: [stuff] There's also a wonderful pythonic library to wrap and read ID3v2 tags. I'd suggest writing a python script that munges them. Y'know, id3ed my.mp3 -artist Spoon -album Kill the Moonlight -track 4 -title I've got a feeling Something like that. -- Morgan Gangwere Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: SSH: remote login returns invalid user
on Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:38:04 -0400, brownh 871v90ax5v@teufel.historicalmaterialism.info attacked their terminal with [snip] Random Blithering Curiosity... Is the gateway a NAPT? I had this problem for a while where I would be fine on the inside, then as soon as I went to the outside, I'd get the same problem you're experiencing. Checking the following fixed my problems: 1) don't ssh as root unless you /have/ to. 2) Check that your NA(P)T allows port 22 on TCP *and* UDP, incoming and outgoing. 3) try using an SSH key. This occasionally fixes things. I have a Lenny box sitting on my desk that I SSH to all the time with the default configuration. Nothing special, just the default OpenSSH-server configuration. For those who were confused: The setup as it looks like to me is this: (Internets)[Gateway/router]--,---[server] `--[laptop] this configuration /works/. [laptop]---(??)--(internets)--[gateway]---[server] This does not. This leads me to beg that there is either a configuration issue that says Dont let anyone who's not on my local network talk to me or a configuration issue with port translation. -- Morgan Gangwere Key ID A8B6F243, available from MIT. BOFH excuse #220: Someone thought The Big Red Button was a light switch. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: single click?
On 9/11/2010 3:57 PM, Doug wrote: [stuff about single clicking] That's up to your file manager. I know that in Thunar (my fm of choice) you can set that in the settings panel (one of the last tabs), but I dont know for everything else. -- Morgan Gangwere Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze
On 9/11/2010 8:44 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: [stuff] Take a look at GRUB4DOS, which has a way to boot ISOs. Or, use USBCreator. I think your /best/ bet though is going to be using GRUB4DOS. -- Morgan Gangwere Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: SSH: remote login returns invalid user
on Sun, 12 Sep 2010 00:08:07 -0400, brownh 87hbhva9js@teufel.historicalmaterialism.info attacked their terminal with +Morgan Gangwere 0.fracta...@gmail.com writes: + + on Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:38:04 -0400, brownh + 871v90ax5v@teufel.historicalmaterialism.info attacked their + terminal with [snip] + + Random Blithering Curiosity... Is the gateway a NAPT? + +NAT loopback is not enabled on my router. Not sure this answers your +question. NAT Loopback means that if the outside IP is requested, it acts like its coming from the outside, not the inside. + Checking the following fixed my problems: + + 1) don't ssh as root unless you /have/ to. + 2) Check that your NA(P)T allows port 22 on TCP *and* UDP, incoming and + outgoing. + 3) try using an SSH key. This occasionally fixes things. + +I don't ssh as root; NAT is disabled in my router. As for SSH key, +I'll give that a try, but too little time before I fly out of here. See below... + I have a Lenny box sitting on my desk that I SSH to all the time + with the default configuration. Nothing special, just the default + OpenSSH-server configuration. + +Good to know. I've mailed a query to the ssh list. + + For those who were confused: + The setup as it looks like to me is this: + + (Internets)[Gateway/router]--,---[server] + `--[laptop] + this configuration /works/. + [laptop]---(??)--(internets)--[gateway]---[server] + This does not. + +Now I am confused ;-(. What I'm trying to do is: + + laptop client - internet/nameserver - router - server on LAN + +Your first line looks like what I have now; the second line looks like +where I'm trying to get. thats what I was aiming for. +The first problem sounds like it would involve my router, but I've +enabled ssh services in it. I don't know if I should enable NAT (my +rough impression is that NAT is best avoided). I should think my name +server would be able to use port info to send signals to the right +place, but I know nothing about it this translation. That generally implies that your router has some form of SSH on it. NAT is useful if you have one outside (public) IP and many inside (private) IPs, which is what it sounds like you have. For example, My router NATs pretty heavily. It has one external IP owned by my ISP, and it NATs for many Internal IPs on a 10.13.37.0/24 IP range. Yes, I went there. What I'd do for the moment is make sure the appropriate /port/ is forwarded at least. I'd refer to portforward.com 's big list of routers and see if they have any suggestions. Their instructions are generally pretty clear. IF after following basic instructions you can't get it, I BLAME YOUR ISP RAAAWR. -- Morgan Gangwere Key ID A8B6F243, available from MIT. BOFH excuse #5: static from plastic slide rules signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: xset command setting not sticking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:59:05 -0700 Tech Geek xxx wrote: How is totem playing when .xinitrc is run? Not quite sure what you mean. This is the sequence. BIOS-Grub-System Boots-Systme Auto logs into GNOME-Totem Runs automatically (through sessions-startup script) .xinitrc file resides in my home directory /home/user/.xinitrc. Random question... but is it actually being /run/ I'd put a zenity line in there ( zenity --info --text Run from .xinitrc ) that will wait for you to press 'ok' The reason I ask is that, IIRC, GDM does not heed .xinitrc at all. Instead, it runs /etc/gdm/something -- making the moderately logical assumption that you're not doing something awkward. IF you need something that pays attention to ~/.xsession and ~/.xinitrc, you may want to look into xdm or SLiM. I'm not sure if either does autologin, but its worth a shot. Just a thought... - -- Morgan Gangwere Key ID A8B6F243, available from MIT. BOFH excuse #378: Operators killed by year 2000 bug bite. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMiH99AAoJEEURiCSotvJD9sQP/18Vbk7/iurzwAQdRb+cPeQU r2LAOBoqxU+LekeSusj0MCwRMVNnkGayNn+BRLAN1/AXLeRdgtXYHXPM/v7xjHCm lss0Cr3o6vhNM0aX3OZ7GQzK8W8nhElD9wsEb1Y+zRh6a5gCP6z9F4FP/4hhBGzL rQ5VO3sQ12nZsnnLZK4lHurAT8ZJh1OegsClMbOJyHg8wCdK/lM1W5lk0126FKHJ FXOo5YowKjDKKi2/qeRRqsFP869oKkryKLidOHzyugwfEdXzV08+HlxfIrZ5OFZk PuVWW8KWhK4dgMRv0Ra/tCzXuOW9sBCABVRx/OIpOkwkmCt5ebla8osTFU4wsOC1 rA1mx4jInZjoN6NpccoZ5R1PfO1+pfXukbzYD0gVo3QWVrO9DuW6AxWo2UOZHyV+ o/RasF0MdMSugT/Kv2RvUcx3/3vCfV3l4DfpN8Rs2WXZqK7Fng0hw8bJrzxRoLM1 QpEpU2RHbTP12KWOzkfw1lIDCGSIWNQTFlBR9aSGxr0Lkh0bX8MoNBE/eThWSTHq BM0e3wJhX2lU2JDrnAC4mMDLCTdtwLTDHDsoesxNc7TiGZbsMAcGSlGMJaaWsUbs 6XqsZoHR/5G5ltQh3cw0s7zFS92qoHIR620gMSqal9gw/vJ4xcbr8IKhTWd7EQeu OvDqhAcCN/400Hgrd7jv =aS1Y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: How to setup X fonts on Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze?
on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:27:42 -0600, Javier Vasquez a@mail.gmail.com attacked their terminal with +On 9/9/10, Csanyi Pal csanyi...@remember Kids, Dont Fullquote Emails! +wrote: + ... + + I have installed amongs others following fonts: + otf-freefont + ttf-freefont + ttf-unifont + xfonts-100dpi [...] + xfonts-scalable + ttf-bitstream-vera [...] + ttf-unifont + +How do you know you're missing fonts? I think /usr/share +fonts/X11/misc, should include most othe ones non 100* and 75*, while +most of the true type ones should be included under the defoma path. fonts in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/*.pcf.* are going to be ignored. By default. By design. +Could you run xlsfonts under X, and see if you're missing any? xlsfonts won't show the xfonts-* fonts until you fix something... +fc-cache -fv Should be enough... HOWEVER... the problem is going to be a file called «no-bitmaps». it tells fc-cache to /ignore/ binary fonts... If you look at «/etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf» you'll see the following: -%- 70-no-bitmaps.conf -%- ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd fontconfig !-- Reject bitmap fonts -- selectfont rejectfont pattern patelt name=scalableboolfalse/bool/patelt /pattern /rejectfont /selectfont /fontconfig -%- 70-no-bitmaps.conf -%- Its just a link to ../conf.avail/70-no-bitmaps.conf so you can safely delete it. You can also /force/ bitmap fonts (xfonts) to show up by linking 70-force-bitmaps.conf into /etc/fonts/conf.d/ however you *dont* need to because it won't ignore them anymore. Make sure you remember to run fc-cache -fv as *root* in order to flush the *system* cache. You /will/ have to restart your X environment in order for them to show up. -- Morgan Gangwere Key ID A8B6F243, available from MIT. BOFH excuse #237: Plate voltage too low on demodulator tube signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: alternatives to xnetload
On 9/8/2010 11:01 PM, T o n g wrote:
Hi,
I've been using xnetload since I started to use Linux, almost 10 years
ago. Now that it is obsolete, what are other recommended alternatives?
thanks
Conky and GKrellM both do a nice job. I personally use a Conky
configuration where I have what works to this effect:
${if_up eth0}
eth0: up, addr $alignr ${addr eth0}
Up ${alignr} Down
${upspeed eth0}${alignr}${downspeed eth0}
${upspeedgraph, 20,100 eth0}${alignr}${downspeedgraph 20,100 eth0}
${else}
eth0: down
${endif}
See http://i.imgur.com/u3bKA.png for a recent screenshot of my desktop,
conky living in the upper right hand corner.
GKRellM is a bit different, and has a much more graphical look to it.
--
Morgan Gangwere
Why?
Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes
messages unreadable.
Top-Posting is evil.
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Re: Awkward alt-key problem...
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:54:02 +0300 Rares Aioanei debian.dev.l...@gmail.com wrote stuff... Here's the thing... I don't want this to happen. I use my Alt-Keys to be... well /alt keys/, not symbols. -- Morgan Gangwere There is a light at the end of the tunnel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100907082004.7af15...@snapdragon
Re: Awkward alt-key problem...
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:28:10 -0500 francis southern wrote: XTerm*altIsNotMeta: true XTerm*metaSendsEscape: true Wonderful! I guess I'm so used to my URxvt that I'd fallen into the idea that Xterm applied the same rules. :D -- Morgan Gangwere the light at the end of the tunnel is the collided trains. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100907095944.7af30...@snapdragon
Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:24:23 -0400 B. Alexander xxx wrote: I tried chrome once, and really wasn't impressed with it. First of all, it didn't play nicely with my kde4 desktop, had its own fisher-price looking borders Those can be easily fixed if you're under a GTK environment. It steals from GTK2 pretty nicely except for the tabs, which I don't mind. I also wonder how much of my browsing experience that google is caching and phoning home. I know it sounds odd, but /none/. The whole scariness of omg it sends everything you type to google11 is a /crock of steam/. The logic is as follows: 1. User starts typing into the Unibox 2. if it looks like a URL, check if the local history has it. If so, return those. 3. when no more results are available from the local history, query the URI against the search provider given in the preferences* 4. if it looks like a URL (that is, beginning with a URI scheme that we understand), go there. Otherwise, return the search page of the search provider with the entry as the query. I know I use gmail, though I have been reconsidering that as well...Since it has been almost painfully slow the past month or so... Do you use the web interface or a POP3/IMAP interface? The web interface is painfully slow, yes, and most of the time I keep it together with some very carefully crafted userscripts. As someone who's a bit of a security freak - -- Morgan Gangwere We have forgotten the light at the end of the tunnel. It is out for maintenance * MS FUD of the year: They claim that when you use Chrome, everything is by default sent to google. under Windows, however, Chrome tries to pick up the search provider that is default in the default browser's settings. On windows most of the time, this happens to be IE, which therefore means Bing. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMhmJOAAoJEEURiCSotvJD0DUP+gLEnJx/II/0q+ehGqXoP5YY h1YrcEapENw1QujoJ85VD2IciAbqFYaGjdIfvGUHVejxoS+cce+NcSYpigM5J3+g uNeaepuvNKE6PnP4a9Sd3CKoKhsSyVgyjBjb4PA634ZIwo1Z7u9IgNVACHR5hzbJ vBV18jB33KeeSt6Us4/GyRI052+aYLe4kjv7/NJMKBK7rTXAltvJUPsvwfe1Vt1p Zf/afY+ipn1cKLqqMs8xMpYAV3F/0w35OqFkfZZDIDnn0STbPuZC959xCvdbVHaY mH3dP6VMm+0GlndGOAUyRFxEuBOBqfDv+4AXdKsyNsY84UPPEHPAO9r+t0o5kXEw ey7oI4EMOLEUfsHiUm3OZvAWa2YO9tRtqap4rlcWEPiBdlXs35/LSQSa64QzR46W PsMJn0xY1WJFxTldup0xcO62wpvBC79xHWh4X5xATEJryPsQ8Wk2daBppEwuSch1 J1A9GpfJehLSWjp3UU5mc4qGhi5Xe864M5Ak8/PGPgaANadAF2Ys9VFx7mPgEcB6 FgMiTuylX61FnzB7skvf2U9FwkLX7bCs+e+Z4FWAUpjMJo9hw12Lckw8M7HqvauH 4SKauHnRHuUfjbYWGMAuGR5f+kNYiHoo3VgH20CHIXBLYZ2NiYnf85dggVuXK2is zf+YVFM6LPTPvzg7BXCW =YfiA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:12:44 -0600 Aaron Toponce xxx wrote: [stuff] I can attest to memory eating on Iceweasel. Normally, I use Iceweasel as my normal browser, but on the poor box I have (a 1Ghz p3 Coppermine w/256MiB of RAM) I get this odd problem... It just eats memory like candy, and I don't even /have/ flash installed! Its not plugins its the /rendering engine/ and its /memory management techniques/. I've seen a single instance of FF sit there and eat memory progressively over 4-5 hours if I have 10-30 tabs open (Generally over 5-6 windows). I've seen it eat almost all of my 2GB swap too, which I keep on a flash drive. I'm personally using Midori, a webkit one, at the moment. it doesn't eat memory like the hog that iceweasel is, and on the crappy 8mb gfx card I'm on (laptop), its no problem for me to spare 3 seconds waiting for a page to load. - -- Morgan Gangwere We are investigating the light at the end of the tunnel I /dont/ use PGP-Mime because I'm so l33t I read mbox's with cat and less. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMhmUFAAoJEEURiCSotvJDi44P/jS+7kDMVDSi9kvHRnWqloJC NNIXrzFXh3bMQXeAtDSBLQmCTrDWGsdrUkpcEh3+j0bTx46M5nFLvojU7EqXvVx5 RyLXSMsA9FoYBiiZUIk/rwt2/6F08cQ3gNCAZxRr/eChCWhKkGp2SigQ3B/cNA5L XSiMOO6+mF54hUo4c3t1JN0VOHsWA+6oKZRQwIkzavUmZOUBNsrvMpYecbm5rZI9 rrRQMIWqeP48cDFpL6/M95osYzPp0BM+LsXqVTNmQsAQ4HxQVtzX2deCkNpr4EY9 MEavdJygzk0NSuU0NQ+MuzgiAh3R4xieh2M1xOtifTkASMNZatgghB8ED76fbtVg udOv+IIZ8XFT+D7EAkS6Y7hEmT5PIINl5veOPTrjB1h/eNN9ekX2KJtIa+cpHjFM BUm8koiwQ1N6Z1/rCSgahhbYoDUS2j6aBzo1z6uLpu+TlwBkP4lGwh1Mdch8I6EA /7b37BgWLSYPM4oPWdvDAIEiv3a7pxNrgH6KjpSRaaqyrrNEQuR2TWLvJqrwqklY /sIgrpzWr7EK1jbCNz36TET29onEG6Tc95VDkq2AEl2ZSM2nQCOoGXpo0zx5ypN5 JaKE+/2raq+2mARcqYhC14Z18ligMHXGRL2gJUT72jesX3G6Lr9kMPEGkeGbhcPW d7bFfexcgCYeC2LioaXs =ypFv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:44:34 -0600 Aaron Toponce xxx wrote: On 09/07/2010 10:15 AM, Morgan Gangwere wrote: You must not use Chromium/Chrome then. It chews through much more memory with its process-per-tab feature. Much more than Firefox too. Actually, I have used Chromium on this box, and used it for quite a while. It was speedy enough at the time, but Midori has proven to be much better. Again, this is the feature of any tab-based browser. You are caching each page in each tab. Not only are you caching the pages, but the browser needs to keep track of what page is associated with what tab, and the tabs history independent of the others. This is a feature, and you can turn this off it if bothers you. Worst case, don't use tabs, and you'll notice your browser using much less memory. rant Here's the problem though: Disk thrashing is *bad*. I mean *really* bad. I dislike it when an app decides that there's an infinite amount of bandwidth available to them, both for network access and disk access. Anything that *relies* on disk caching (save, maybe for a swapdisk) is generally going to *slog*. /rant What FF does is not cache the /content/ to disk, but the ENTIRE memory stream. This would be good if I had a nice set of SATA-3 RAID'd disks with a link right to the mobo, but its *not* good when you have a tiny little PATA disk that barely pulls 40GB. rant I'm not going to argue semantics or details (especially not here) but this is more a fundamental flaw of application design as it is currently taught. I took a C++ class where the instructor used a book which claimed that Desktop computers have at lest 1GB of RAM available at any one given time and that malloc'ing 1GiB at a time is a Good Idea. they also claimed that Modern Computers have at least 10GB of free space -- I've worked on boxes (debian boxes even!) where the free space was measured in /a few hundred megs/. /rant Software Development as it is taught assumes the Greatest Thing Since Last Wednesday™ and it gets on my nerves. Coming from Midori also doesn't have extension capability, and its plugin architecture is severely limited. Your browser does a lot for you, a lot more than I think you realize. Midori doesn't use the amount of RAM Firefox does, because its feature set is substantially smaller. You could call this bloat in Firefox, if you wish, or crucial productivity tools. I don't use extensions to begin with, so I can't pass judgment. I do know that the extension framework in Midori is good enough that Adblock has been ported over, though. I so far have /not/ had many problems with Midori. I guess I'm just used to software crashing because I'm normally a Windows guy*. - -- Morgan Gangwere The light you see at the end of the tunnel is your imagination. * Fillet me later, I have college to deal with. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMhpR8AAoJEEURiCSotvJDs7EP/0Mp9AZdCmf+oLKBIluTkv2x DZ1fNUQPsjuHnn376Ps/V7ICfyZ3QCgb0jDebdCwhgW3cF6XmCmZpdUZ/1rMtrL2 EXeVWvWF89rre8kp6qRfHVJ8tvJOOt6c4+r4tm7x2PNGbEFYY8dxK4hoGCxrBCXg gziXuOwt6MeNZkYTSWX8RBl1viqM5nkg67aZMFQ9A4plhjgKJan1/9RI3xo3hDuY IX0B70y2TN1vAFFMM5hWq2OxLZLZJihzpT3tOQD2xWseQvN5CEquEnDEuCgulMT8 R+QxyZ/RhCGdKP7A0R1+XIGXtrYrlxZOzTGb/wW8yWaVRWqi+Lc7q2PXBSQCoTp8 C5I1m7li0J2LOenrWZaD27QqWp38T2iq2mqGkxLQEVNuPoLWhGCn5UZybA3jbY6z HsHeWf2f2VxuHsthBoL0KSOMqCKZfxrHI9Sp+/3l6Sm8hDyLlnY8YPzrpQ0aRQJQ Qm7avM4JU4khLd8C5ck3KUUBpICOICs/wHeSx2wsIUDVDcXQszcBs8IW5KgNI6J7 juUOYKCec5C22yuMFEWwZzfi5+27Vk2DLz6rw7lxam0pdDrJD+gm5oKV0NqdeMSQ RYMOgQ27KnypS/wUcgxUR2Rgu80pSEoenItWuDvL5WG5Z3qOyXE44MYq9hWzpfcj URXfdK39MTQ5pPvdpfS7 =opLZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: No icons, help.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:02:40 -0400 Doug xxx wrote: I ordered and received the Debian LXDE version, and am presently running the LIVE version, just to get a feel for things. I will have to install the program because I'm taking a Linux/Unix course at the local community college, and the instructor wants to use Debian. Most of the time the class will apparently be using a CLI. However, in the meantime, on my own time, I would like to be able to use the program for other things. So, you're using LXDE, so openBox for the WM and PCManFM for the file manager / desktop background manager. Its sad that I know this, for some reason (I've never used LXDE out of anything but curiosity.) How does one put icons on the desktop??? And having downloaded Firefox (I think) Under Debian, Firefox is rebranded to be 'totally FOSS' (*) as Iceweasel. how do I get it someplace I can use it? I will also download Thunderbird Which is in the repos as 'icedove', again for 'total FOSS-ness'. when I figure all this out. But first, the desktop is just wasted space if I can't put program icons on it. I disagree with that. I have /no/ icons on my desktop. its purely there as a courtesy -- even on Windows! The fastest way (to get to your question) is to quickly learn the Desktop file spec. Desktop icons are just text files. They generally look like this... - --8-- [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=My App Exec=myapp icon=myicon - --8-- BTW, I ordered the CD because I could not make head nor tail of the Jigdo system. Somebody up at Debian HQ should look into that. If all the other distros I've tried can send zipped .iso files, I see no reason that Debian can't do likewise. IIRC (IANAE) it was a debian political move to not zip the isos that boiled down to FOSS-ness alá mp3. Go look at Jigdo's documentation... There's a reasonable HOWTO if you google around... I found http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/ in a matter of... 30 seconds? I personally actually use bitTorrent and get the NetInst iso. 50MB is just fine for me, and unless there's a reason (i.e. unsupported network hardware in the base kernel, firmware needed) you should be fine using the netinst ISO. It gives you a reasonable starting place that will pull off mirrors for you. Hope I haven't ruffled any feathers, and thanx for your patience with an old-time newbie. --doug (*) I disagree with the idea that because something has a copyright on it that it barrs something from being 'FOSS'. As an artist, programmer and all around compu-jack-of-all-trades, I think that its perfectly legitimate to have a logo which is not in the total open source. But thats just me... and I'm one of the freaks that wants CC for code. - -- Morgan Gangwere Key ID A8B6F243, available from MIT. BOFH excuse #161: monitor VLF leakage -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMhwNPAAoJEEURiCSotvJDgcQP/iKgm13wvNh+juPGGysAkhTZ iznM7G3MJW9P0OAk9pdPeVLzPzJHQOqeewPceQK2OaLb+vt00IdOhtK/DkKrG3T7 y/NdeK/gemR0mQyLQWfj21CToP/P+AM+JhE5Vm5lK+Mebi6byTyW+pRq9vdwTWUL NsRLkJDlUDt7/36LjwY/uUJfSKTqt4VaeWDibW6OOP7gjageKwkZMVw9Ii79HO7h 3n12ZVzL0BCGpdjSK5NyEZzvJyyMupn8vKQPT4orGBNHZCahvHLDbcRkZrKcrroR Zr9YW+URwU+I2/p5fAaqZPeVy8hNmoAGbnFk10jsT1miSwYxjc1DbD5DqS23MOUx j1gzldhEmi8904MC8Ww1E83BMRIbXTVywBN+IhbrZmhdRGAWxai8gQETsyzMrsIw NUVvBc3Z6P91njjDZX51WWH09cjnrKMbRzKN3/HBGkL/mKIY3RPKXblZq7mVfFGN e5j26uGFQMWhOhbview+nGQDR0Vldmvyaj7t1io1m+2q25JDk7JNUmAR2BDT+IW7 paxV7YOQdA1CF2/c2eRcPf1skPhlpdO7Uou8FbbrRoI5M4cil0R7G1D63rNFx5Ug 31niHRInZ5MvBfi6F0W5RSt9YAP0lSutvh0NGcPAlneupRe10oVRiv4dRdQ+Xxd/ ekiXHqB1VZ6Y3p7kSSNh =IkXI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Awkward alt-key problem...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Howdy y'all I've been using CrunchBang 10 (so squeeze with some branding) and I've run into a subtle problem. I'm running on a (really old) Dell Latitude C600. Aside from the occasional issue with the video (Which is because, despite the fact that there's 8MB of video ram, 16MB is reported), the only problem I've had as of late is the Latitude keyboard layout apparently is intended as an international layout? I use irssi a lot and when I use the Alt-(num) to swap between windows I get... Funky characters. That is, I get subscript 2 for alt-2, subscript 3 for alt-3, mu for alt-4, etc... And it gets rather irritating. I have my /etc/defaults set to: XKBLAYOUT=latitude XKBVARIANT=us Even if I set this to pc105 and - -- Morgan Gangwere Why? Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes messages unreadable. Top-Posting is evil. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMhcjjAAoJEEURiCSotvJDYnkP/RcMP1tmaiNmaedn1LnFOTMY F1eA4L+8PbOsny/fTWlf3kWRKJc4AiJOpBtuapaJLJTOg0enLG//rocs57OBYFfx DswhEnZ84NXsUkt2GmQhZKJ5gWcFHtFM/GW6/LhoB0TU8IgI9hXUNSFS5pcIWzmt SE7/afNHkzU33gMbRyisz1s+kV2MP4cjoSmp/Vqum+NjMRAWTrQrAqlolhRtYWWx RRJ5kbw6l+P69+CD53TVFsox03c/r0igOxbzAVYmvphYAYhNQHRi6tIUvQuYsg8g ImOw8DmewxoNBrdjv6Vd6oNUeS7xYPdAErp4T19bb/X7EZBpFojaBmHt7R+1ORAH /2YmF0GP+Lh4JKNwl347X7vEAElMxYoSut2qfOZfyVAdbjRD9rLbGrtQ5/ofl7jo Cm3nLiStE/7QVlfK28+8ezw51NWHw5b+FUp29/H54e6rjI8rXcrvAXie8nSiYb2W usBHdde1TMYjwsxnotJrkS228+fZV4TZJlPoUlBkq1ZG5Og8MYX9qj26EFUVy3YE JFUVi5uqIMJRdp0v2QT2GFGi8nTqi6uG/bLvysbl/kGNeWI/umrS8RnQbCiep0fF HarGtCLj55HXaNsxovru4tPmhUlLJ50uReFK+Y/rVUHfeAJaDaCjXTM8IUI/+4B8 icNiPLsyQ5XgmODN/Yrp =OPju -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c85c8e3.7060...@gmail.com
