Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-26 Thread rhkramer
Thanks for the reply and the useful explanations (and the expression of limitation of your personal knowledge). I will add one question / comment down below: On Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:23:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > For most people, it comes down to "when you can't write to the device >

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Remember, tar was designed for magnetic tapes, > > > which are read sequentially. It provides no way for a reader to learn > > > that file xyz is at byte offset 31337 and that it should skip ahead to > > > that point if it only wants that one file. rhkra...@gmail.c

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 09:51:59 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Again, I assume (I know what assume does) that "USB mass-storage > device that acts like a hard drive" is (or might be) a pen drive type > of device. I've had a lot of bad luck (well, more bad luck than I'd > like) with that kind of d

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 09:51:59AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Just to confirm, I assume that is true ("no way to skip ahead to byte 31337") > even if the underlying media is a (somewhat random access) disk instead of > (serial access) tape? Correct. There's no central index inside the t

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-26 Thread rhkramer
Thanks for addressing this -- I have a few questions I want to ask for my own edification / clarification: On Thursday, December 26, 2019 08:18:12 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > The drawback of using tar is that it creates an *archive* of files -- that > is, a single file (or byte stream) that contain

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 08:18:12AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 11:07:22AM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > I was amazed that nobody yet considered tar. Sorry... that sentence was actually written by Franco Martelli. I replied to the wrong email.

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 11:07:22AM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > I was amazed that nobody yet considered tar. The best use case for tar is creating a full backup to removable media (magnetic tapes are literally what it was designed for -- the "t" stands for tape). The drawback of using tar

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-25 Thread David Christensen
On 2019-12-25 08:42, Franco Martelli wrote: On 18/12/19 at 18:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Aside / Admission: I don't backup all that I should and as often as I should, so I'm looking for ways to improve. One thought I have is to write my own backup "system" and use it, an

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-25 Thread Franco Martelli
On 18/12/19 at 18:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Aside / Admission: I don't backup all that I should and as often as I should, > so I'm looking for ways to improve. One thought I have is to write my own > backup "system" and use it, and I've thought about tha

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-23 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 20:11:07 -0600 Nate Bargmann wrote: > Thanks for the tips! Sure! Let us know if you hack together anything interesting. Celejar

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-23 Thread Nate Bargmann
Thanks for the tips! - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 signature.asc Description

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-23 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 14:25:24 -0600 Nate Bargmann wrote: > I also use rsnapshot on this machine to backup to another drive in the > same case. I'd thought about off site, perhaps AWS or such but haven't > spent enough time trying to figure out how I might do that with > rsnapshot. One way to do

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-21 Thread Klaus Fuerstberger
Am 18.12.19 um 18:02 schrieb rhkra...@gmail.com: > A purpose of sending this to the mailing-list is to find out if there already > exists a solution (or parts of a solution) close to what I'm thinking about > (no sense re-inventing the wheel), or if someone thinks I've overlooked > something or

Re: Fetchnews (was Re: Home made backup system)

2019-12-21 Thread songbird
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, December 20, 2019 09:40:28 PM songbird wrote: >> Kenneth Parker wrote: > >> > Could you please ship me a personal email, on how you configured gmane >> > and LKML to read debian-user? > >> i'd rather post public messages as that way if anyone >> else is read

Re: Fetchnews (was Re: Home made backup system)

2019-12-21 Thread Ralph Katz
On 12/20/19 7:40 PM, songbird wrote: [snip] ...[configuring gmane to read debian-user] > > gmane is a mail to usenet gateway service. > > when you install leafnode and your favorite newsreader > and get them configured you will still have to download > an active list from the news service

Re: Fetchnews (was Re: Home made backup system)

2019-12-21 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, December 20, 2019 09:40:28 PM songbird wrote: > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > Could you please ship me a personal email, on how you configured gmane > > and LKML to read debian-user? > i'd rather post public messages as that way if anyone > else is reading along or searching they can als

Re: Fetchnews (was Re: Home made backup system)

2019-12-20 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 9:41 PM songbird wrote: > Kenneth Parker wrote: > >songbird wrote: > ... > >> check out eternal-september.org :) no binaries. just > >> text. that is all i want to read anyways. > You may see a sea7kenp username pop up occasionally. > Could you please ship me a p

Re: Fetchnews (was Re: Home made backup system)

2019-12-20 Thread songbird
Kenneth Parker wrote: >songbird wrote: ... >> check out eternal-september.org :) no binaries. just >> text. that is all i want to read anyways. >> > > Thanks! Name Servers couldn't find it without the "www" in front. I am > investigating it now. > > Not likely to get too far down the nntp "

Re: Fetchnews (was Re: Home made backup system)

2019-12-20 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:47 PM songbird wrote: > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > songbird wrote: > ... > >> i only use a few commands regularly and have them either > >> aliased or stuck in history for me in my .bashrc > >> (i start every session by history -c to get rid of > >> anything and then us

Re: Fetchnews (was Re: Home made backup system)

2019-12-20 Thread songbird
Kenneth Parker wrote: > songbird wrote: ... >> i only use a few commands regularly and have them either >> aliased or stuck in history for me in my .bashrc >> (i start every session by history -c to get rid of >> anything and then use history -s "command" so pretty >> much my routine when signing

Fetchnews (was Re: Home made backup system)

2019-12-20 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:29 AM songbird wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > ... > > History expansion is a bloody nightmare. I recommend simply turning > > it off and living without it. Of course, that's a personal preference, > > and you're free to continue banging your head against it, if you f

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 19/12/19 4:02 am, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Aside / Admission: I don't backup all that I should and as often as I should, so I'm looking for ways to improve. One thought I have is to write my own backup "system" and use it, and I've thought about that a little, I

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread David Christensen
On 2019-12-19 21:04, David Christensen wrote: So, ~47 snapshots of ~892 GB of data.  That is ~51 TB. Correction -- 42 TB. David

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread David Christensen
On 2019-12-19 09:45, ghe wrote: How about writing a little script for rsync saying how you want it to backup, what to backup, and what not to backup and set cron jobs for when you want it to run. In the cron jobs, tell it to write to different directories, so to keep several days or backups. T

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread Nate Bargmann
I also use rsnapshot on this machine to backup to another drive in the same case. I'd thought about off site, perhaps AWS or such but haven't spent enough time trying to figure out how I might do that with rsnapshot. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible wo

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:45:22 -0700 ghe wrote: > How about writing a little script for rsync saying how you want it to > backup, what to backup, and what not to backup and set cron jobs for > when you want it to run. In the cron jobs, tell it to write to > different directories, so to keep several

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 12:02:56 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Aside / Admission: I don't backup all that I should and as often as I should, > so I'm looking for ways to improve. One thought I have is to write my own > backup "system" and use it, and I'v

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread ghe
How about writing a little script for rsync saying how you want it to backup, what to backup, and what not to backup and set cron jobs for when you want it to run. In the cron jobs, tell it to write to different directories, so to keep several days or backups. Not as smart as amanda (it'll backu

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread songbird
Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > History expansion is a bloody nightmare. I recommend simply turning > it off and living without it. Of course, that's a personal preference, > and you're free to continue banging your head against it, if you feel > that the times it helps you outweigh the times that it

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 08:51:51AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:03:57AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Mi, 18 dec 19, 21:42:21, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:26:04 PM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > #!/bin/bash > > > > home=$

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 09:47:03AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > So this "if" means: > > if ## if > test ## > -z "$home" ## the value of $home is empty > -o ## or > \! ## there is NOT > -d "$home" ## a directory named "$home" >

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:03:57AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 18 dec 19, 21:42:21, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:26:04 PM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > #!/bin/bash > > > home=${HOME:-~} > > It will set the variable 'home' to the value of the variab

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 09:53:46AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > ... > > >> if test -z "$home" -o \! -d "$home" ; then The main issue here is that the use of the binary -o and -a operators in "test" or "[" is not portable. It might work in bash's implementation of test (sometimes), but you

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:38:26PM -0500, songbird wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > ... > >> if test -z "$home" -o \! -d "$home" ; then > > > > What does the -o \! do -- hmm, I guess \! is a bash "refeence" to the owner > > -- > no, -o is logical or in that context. Yes, exactly: it's no

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 09:42:21PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks to all who replied! > > This script (or elements of it) looks useful to me, but I don't fully > understand it -- I plan to work my way through it -- I have a few questions > now, I'm sure I will have more after I get pa

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 18 dec 19, 21:42:21, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:26:04 PM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > #!/bin/bash > > home=${HOME:-~} > > What does that line do, or more specifically, what does the :-~ do -- note > the > following: It will set the variable 'home

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-18 Thread David Christensen
On 2019-12-18 09:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Aside / Admission: I don't backup all that I should and as often as I should, so I'm looking for ways to improve. One thought I have is to write my own backup "system" and use it, and I've thought about that a littl

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-18 Thread songbird
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: ... >> if test -z "$home" -o \! -d "$home" ; then > > What does the -o \! do -- hmm, I guess \! is a bash "refeence" to the owner > -- no, -o is logical or in that context. the backslash is just protecting the ! operator which is the not operator on what follows.

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 12:02:56 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Aside / Admission: I don't backup all that I should and as often as I > should, so I'm looking for ways to improve. One thought I have is to > write my own backup "system" and use it, and I've

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-18 Thread rhkramer
Thanks to all who replied! This script (or elements of it) looks useful to me, but I don't fully understand it -- I plan to work my way through it -- I have a few questions now, I'm sure I will have more after I get past the first 3 (or more encouraging to me, first 6) lines. Questions below:

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-18 Thread elvis
ing for ways to improve. One thought I have is to write my own backup "system" and use it, and I've thought about that a little, and provide some of my thoughts below. A purpose of sending this to the mailing-list is to find out if there already exists a solution (or parts of a soluti

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 12:02:56PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Aside / Admission: I don't backup all that I should and as often as I should, > so I'm looking for ways to improve [...] > Part of the reason for doing my own is that I don't want to be trapped into > using a system that might

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-18 Thread billium
On 18/12/2019 17:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Aside / Admission: I don't backup all that I should and as often as I should, so I'm looking for ways to improve. One thought I have is to write my own backup "system" and use it, and I've thought about that a littl

Re: Home made backup system

2019-12-18 Thread Levente
d, > so I'm looking for ways to improve. One thought I have is to write my own > backup "system" and use it, and I've thought about that a little, and > provide > some of my thoughts below. > > A purpose of sending this to the mailing-list is to find out if t

Home made backup system

2019-12-18 Thread rhkramer
Aside / Admission: I don't backup all that I should and as often as I should, so I'm looking for ways to improve. One thought I have is to write my own backup "system" and use it, and I've thought about that a little, and provide some of my thoughts below. A purpo

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-12 Thread Richard Hector
On 07/10/16 23:19, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I don't know whether dirvish does something to improve matters, but with > hard link trees, if you have lots of little files (such as Maildir archives > of busy mailing lists like LKML), the amount of space consumed by the file > system metadata to repre

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-10 Thread Dave Thayer
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:55:44PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 09:32:02AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > Am I being unreasonable? You are certainly more of an expert than I - I > > suppose you find that it is quality software, and better than > > rsnapshot, despite basically

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 09:32:02AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > Interesting, thanks. I've been using rsnapshot for years, and am > basically satisfied with it, although the performance when run on my > T61 laptop (backing up to a (slow) USB external disk) is indeed painful > (I do have largeish Maildirs

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-10 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:48:57 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 11:37:31AM +0200, mo wrote: > > Make a long story short: > > Have you guys a recommendation for me? > > Is there a specific application you use for your backups guys? > > rdiff-backup[1]. I don't know what your N

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 03:06:58PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > Can you elaborate on the performance issues? I'm using dirvish for my > maildirs (dovecot imap server), without noticeable problems. I don't know whether dirvish does something to improve matters, but with hard link trees, if you ha

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-05 Thread Richard Hector
On 05/10/16 16:03, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > Hi, Richard. > > On 04/10/16 23:06, Richard Hector wrote: > >> My current challenge is to back up windows boxes - if I can get >> rsync to work (maybe DeltaCopy? Not sure if that will work how I >> want), I guess I'll be stuck doing a local rsync of a sm

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-04 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, Richard. On 04/10/16 23:06, Richard Hector wrote: > My current challenge is to back up windows boxes - if I can get rsync to > work (maybe DeltaCopy? Not sure if that will work how I want), I guess > I'll be stuck doing a local rsync of a smbfs mount ... unless someone > has a better suggesti

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-04 Thread Richard Hector
On 04/10/16 01:45, Markus Grunwald wrote: > Hello Teemu, > >>> rsync, whilst an awesome piece of software, is not, on its own, a >>> backup system. >> >> Yes. With some scripting I think "rsync" with "--link-dest" is quite >> idea

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-04 Thread Jarle Aase
I have moved from simple scripts to simple scripts with zbackup in them :) Then I rsync the zbackup directories from different machines to my central backup disks (and distribute from there to cloud storage and off-site disks). zbackup supports deduplication and encryption, and is really a n

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 02:59:19PM +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Yes. With some scripting I think "rsync" with "--link-dest" is quite > ideal for incremental backups. Unchanged files are created as hard links > for the previous backup files. Every backup generation is just a normal > and complete f

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-03 Thread Markus Grunwald
Hello Teemu, > > rsync, whilst an awesome piece of software, is not, on its own, a > > backup system. > > Yes. With some scripting I think "rsync" with "--link-dest" is quite > ideal for incremental backups. Unchanged files are created as hard links >

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-03 Thread Teemu Likonen
Jonathan Dowland [2016-10-03 10:48:57+01] wrote: > rsync, whilst an awesome piece of software, is not, on its own, a > backup system. Yes. With some scripting I think "rsync" with "--link-dest" is quite ideal for incremental backups. Unchanged files are created as h

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
;d also consider looking at Obnam[2], and I'd avoid rsnapshot if I were you (it falls over with large quantities of files, such as mailboxes, and rdiff-backup basically does the same job but better). rsync, whilst an awesome piece of software, is not, on its own, a backup system. When ev

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-02 Thread Bob Weber
On 10/02/2016 08:50 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> Am 01.10.2016 um 23:06 schrieb Bob Weber: >>> Like I said backuppc uses incremental and full backups. The web >>> interface lets you browse any backup (inc or full) and you see all the >>> files backed up. I set the incremental for each day up

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-02 Thread rhkramer
> Am 01.10.2016 um 23:06 schrieb Bob Weber: > > Like I said backuppc uses incremental and full backups. The web > > interface lets you browse any backup (inc or full) and you see all the > > files backed up. I set the incremental for each day up to a week. So I > > have up to 7 of them. The ful

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-02 Thread mo
Am 02.10.2016 um 12:55 schrieb Dan Purgert: mo wrote: Am 02.10.2016 um 02:47 schrieb Dan Purgert: mo wrote: Maybe this is a little OT, but what kind of backup strategy would you guys recommend? (Any advice Gene? :) ) If it *must* survive, 3-2-1 is the way to go. 3 copies (Original, Backup

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-02 Thread Dan Purgert
mo wrote: > Am 02.10.2016 um 02:47 schrieb Dan Purgert: >> mo wrote: >>> Maybe this is a little OT, but what kind of backup strategy would you >>> guys recommend? (Any advice Gene? :) ) >> >> If it *must* survive, 3-2-1 is the way to go. >> >> 3 copies (Original, Backup, and Backup of the Backup) >

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-02 Thread mo
Am 02.10.2016 um 02:47 schrieb Dan Purgert: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mo wrote: Maybe this is a little OT, but what kind of backup strategy would you guys recommend? (Any advice Gene? :) ) If it *must* survive, 3-2-1 is the way to go. 3 copies (Original, Backup, and Bac

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-02 Thread mo
Am 01.10.2016 um 23:06 schrieb Bob Weber: Like I said backuppc uses incremental and full backups. The web interface lets you browse any backup (inc or full) and you see all the files backed up. I set the incremental for each day up to a week. So I have up to 7 of them. The full can kept for

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 01 October 2016 13:54:29 Clive Menzies wrote: > On 01/10/16 18:40, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 01 October 2016 12:39:58 Clive Menzies wrote: > >> Quick question. Are your backups incremental or complete every > >> night? > > > > This is probably better explained in the manpages

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mo wrote: > Maybe this is a little OT, but what kind of backup strategy would you > guys recommend? (Any advice Gene? :) ) If it *must* survive, 3-2-1 is the way to go. 3 copies (Original, Backup, and Backup of the Backup) 2 different media types (s

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Bob Weber
Like I said backuppc uses incremental and full backups. The web interface lets you browse any backup (inc or full) and you see all the files backed up. I set the incremental for each day up to a week. So I have up to 7 of them. The full can kept for for however long you want. I currently keep

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread mo
Am 01.10.2016 um 21:37 schrieb Glenn English: On Oct 1, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 01 October 2016 08:40:35 Mark Fletcher wrote: I know Gene is a fan of Amanda, I have it on my list to try it out myself based on positive remarks he has made about it in the past.

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread mo
Maybe this is a little OT, but what kind of backup strategy would you guys recommend? (Any advice Gene? :) )

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread mo
Am 01.10.2016 um 14:20 schrieb Dan Purgert: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mo wrote: As the title say i'm in search for a backup application/system. Currently i manage my backups with a little script that i wrote... but it does not really serve my needs anymore. I want to be ab

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread mo
Am 01.10.2016 um 18:22 schrieb Gene Heskett: On Saturday 01 October 2016 08:40:35 Mark Fletcher wrote: On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 11:37:31AM +0200, mo wrote: Hi Debian users :) Information: Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 (jessie) Release:8.6 Codename:

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Glenn English
> On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Clive Menzies wrote: > > We don't install GUIs on our servers; can this be managed from individual > workstations? I'm not sure, but I think Amanda was written before GUIs existed :-) -- Glenn English

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Glenn English
> On Oct 1, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 01 October 2016 08:40:35 Mark Fletcher wrote: > >> I know Gene is a fan of Amanda, I have it on my list to try it out >> myself based on positive remarks he has made about it in the past. Yeah. Amanda's a good solution. I use i

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Clive Menzies
On 01/10/16 18:40, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 01 October 2016 12:39:58 Clive Menzies wrote: Quick question. Are your backups incremental or complete every night? This is probably better explained in the manpages. Amanda has the concept of doing a full backup of everything in its disklist

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 01 October 2016 12:39:58 Clive Menzies wrote: > On 01/10/16 17:22, Gene Heskett wrote > > > Yeppers! It runs in the wee hours of the night here, for an hour or > > so. Currently backing up this machine, and 3 more on my little home > > network here, using its own unique, distribute the

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mo wrote: > As the title say i'm in search for a backup application/system. > Currently i manage my backups with a little script that i wrote... but > it does not really serve my needs anymore. > I want to be able to make backups on my main PC and als

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Clive Menzies
On 01/10/16 17:22, Gene Heskett wrote Yeppers! It runs in the wee hours of the night here, for an hour or so. Currently backing up this machine, and 3 more on my little home network here, using its own unique, distribute the nightly load to equalize as much a it can given its list of what to back

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 01 October 2016 08:40:35 Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 11:37:31AM +0200, mo wrote: > > Hi Debian users :) > > > > Information: > > Distributor ID: Debian > > Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 (jessie) > > Release:8.6 > > Codename: jessie > > > > As the

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 10:46:07AM -0400, Bob Weber wrote: > I use backuppc. It is web browser based setup and usage. It takes > incremental > and full backups that can remain as long as you want or have space for. It > can > browse files by name or in a version mode where you can see the date

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread mo
Has someone experience with Bacula? I heard good things about it, although i never looked into it... maybe someone has and can give me his report on it :)

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread mo
Am 01.10.2016 um 16:46 schrieb Bob Weber: I use backuppc. It is web browser based setup and usage. It takes incremental and full backups that can remain as long as you want or have space for. It can browse files by name or in a version mode where you can see the date where a file changed and

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Bob Weber
I use backuppc. It is web browser based setup and usage. It takes incremental and full backups that can remain as long as you want or have space for. It can browse files by name or in a version mode where you can see the date where a file changed and restore an earlier version if you want (or to

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread mo
Am 01.10.2016 um 14:40 schrieb Mark Fletcher: On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 11:37:31AM +0200, mo wrote: Hi Debian users :) Information: Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 (jessie) Release:8.6 Codename: jessie As the title say i'm in search for a backup applic

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 11:37:31AM +0200, mo wrote: > Hi Debian users :) > > Information: > Distributor ID: Debian > Description: Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 (jessie) > Release: 8.6 > Codename: jessie > > As the title say i'm in search for a backup application/system. > Currently i manag

Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-01 Thread mo
Hi Debian users :) Information: Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 (jessie) Release:8.6 Codename: jessie As the title say i'm in search for a backup application/system. Currently i manage my backups with a little script that i wrote... but it does not real

Re: Re(2): Backup system for use when Debian fails.

2012-07-16 Thread Keith McKenzie
Not quite OT :- For a Debian Live recovery (or install) distro try SalineOS (XFCE desktop) http://www.salineos.com/ -- Sent from FOSS (Free Open Source Software) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

Re: Re(2): Backup system for use when Debian fails.

2012-07-16 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:38:33 -0700, peasthope wrote: > * From: Camaleón * Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 > 15:52:11 + (UTC) >> Well, that's what LiveCDs and USB sticks with a running system are >> aimed for, ... > > Starting from functional cold hardware with a LiveCD or USB stick, > appro

Re: Re(2): Backup system for use when Debian fails.

2012-07-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 05:38:33PM -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > > * From: Camaleón > * Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:52:11 + (UTC) > > Well, that's what LiveCDs and USB sticks with a running system are aimed > > for, ... > > Starting from functional cold hardware with a LiveCD or

Re(2): Backup system for use when Debian fails.

2012-07-15 Thread peasthope
* From: Camaleón * Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:52:11 + (UTC) > Well, that's what LiveCDs and USB sticks with a running system are aimed for, > ... Starting from functional cold hardware with a LiveCD or USB stick, approximately how much time is needed to put a reference document

Re: Re (2): Backup system for use when Debian fails.

2012-06-19 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:47:11 -0700, peasthope wrote: > From: Camaleon > Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:52:11 + (UTC) >> Well, that's what LiveCDs and USB sticks with a running system are >> aimed for, to be a lifesaver when your main system cannot boot or is >> completely hosed. > > Yes, I'm flau

Re (2): Backup system for use when Debian fails.

2012-06-18 Thread peasthope
From: Camaleon Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:52:11 + (UTC) > Well, that's what LiveCDs and USB sticks with a running system are aimed > for, to be a lifesaver when your main system cannot boot or is completely > hosed. Yes, I'm flaunting a prejudice. Also a spare Debian system could be kep

trivial udev rule wreaks havoc; was Re: Backup system for use when Debian fails.

2012-06-18 Thread peasthope
From: peasth...@shaw.ca Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:25:02 -0700 > This weekend I arrived home to find the Debian Squeeze system > unable to accept a login. Turns out that I inflicted the problem by creating udev rules for the purpose of making the Unibrain Fire-i camera work. peter@joule:

Re: Backup system for use when Debian fails.

2012-06-18 Thread Camaleón
y to two but want to mention that my > backup system in such circumstances is ETH Native Oberon. > http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/ > > It receives and sends email, browses the Web sufficiently for > troubleshooting the Linux system and is unsophisticated and superbly > reliable. Me

Backup system for use when Debian fails.

2012-06-17 Thread peasthope
lving the problem for a day to two but want to mention that my backup system in such circumstances is ETH Native Oberon. http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/ It receives and sends email, browses the Web sufficiently for troubleshooting the Linux system and is unsophisticated and superbly rel

Re: Backup System part deux

2012-02-11 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 06:08:04PM -0800, Gary Roach wrote: > > > Thanks for all of the help last time . I installed Backupninja > easily. After getting it running I realized that it didn't quite do > what I wanted. I was looking for a package that could be installed > in the server with little n

Re: Backup System part deux

2012-02-10 Thread Sebastian Steinhuber
Hi Gary! Am 10.02.2012 03:08, schrieb Gary Roach: > > > Thanks for all of the help last time . I installed Backupninja easily. > After getting it running I realized that it didn't quite do what I > wanted. I was looking for a package that could be installed in the > server with little need for a

Backup System part deux

2012-02-09 Thread Gary Roach
Thanks for all of the help last time . I installed Backupninja easily. After getting it running I realized that it didn't quite do what I wanted. I was looking for a package that could be installed in the server with little need for additional programs to be installed on each machine. So, af

Re: Backup System

2012-02-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/02/12 22:35, Paul Lewis wrote: > On 04/02/12 01:57:14, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > > > No one seems to have suggested DVDs or BlueRay as storage medium. Is > > there a reason these do not seem to be used much? > Some people like them - I only use them for cheap off-site backups (fo

Re: Backup System

2012-02-04 Thread Paul Lewis
On 04/02/12 01:57:14, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >>> That I have backups of stuff for a couple weeks is worth the > >>> massively slow tapes (and tape drive $$), IMHO. > > Tape slow? Depends on your budget I guess and needs I guess. DLT is > dirt cheap nowadays (cost of shipping only in many cases,

Re: Backup System

2012-02-03 Thread David Christensen
On 02/02/2012 09:36 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 02/02/2012 06:45 PM, Gary Roach wrote: I have 3 computer running on Debian Squeeze. One has an unused hard drive that I wish to use as a backup disk for all 3 computers. Is there a simple way to do this that can be completely automated. $ apt

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