Re: Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345

2004-05-28 Thread tripolar
Alvin Oga wrote:
hi ya quadpolar :-)
On Thu, 27 May 2004, tripolar wrote:
 

I dont think so- The only thing I know of is firestarter (firewall). I 
received some more messages the same except this time ports 1234 ( 
service subseven) but going to a different outside IP.
   

post your logs (unedited, except for ip# ) you are reading/interpretting
- you don't care that 100's of script kiddies are trying to make
1000's of attempts to get into your pc
	- consider it a free audit of your systems 

	- if they got in ... you've got a serious, but solvable  major
	problem
 

What logs?
here are a few lines from hit list
time:May 27 21:22:29 in: out:eth1 port:12345 source:192.168.1.1
dest:81.53.*.* len:44 tos:0x00 protocol:tcp service:netbus
time:May 27 22:10:38 in: out:eth1 port:1234 source:192.168.1.1
dest:63.207.*.* len:40 tos:0x00 protocol:tcp service:subseven
what is the output of netstat -nv
 

netstat -nv only brought up two addresses- my isps mail servers:995
- you are looking for foreign address on whacky ports that have
established connections to your local pc

- if you cannot explain any of the those outside machines
connected to your pc... you've probably need to get comments
from the list what does this line mean
c ya
alvin 

 

I had had many ports forwarded from hardware firewall/router (HFR) to
debian-sid machine because of certain programs ( which I have since shut
down )and then I removed all port forwarding rules from HFR to debian pc.
I will just keep an eye out on the hit list.
Thanks
-
This didnt go through to the list the first time so here goes again.
Also since then I slowly opened 1 port at a time after starting 1 of the 
programs. I see the requests leaving my machine again so I have tracked 
down the culprit.
Thanks


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Re: Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345

2004-05-28 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya quadpolar :-)

On Thu, 27 May 2004, tripolar wrote:

 I dont think so- The only thing I know of is firestarter (firewall). I 
 received some more messages the same except this time ports 1234 ( 
 service subseven) but going to a different outside IP.

post your logs (unedited, except for ip# ) you are reading/interpretting
- you don't care that 100's of script kiddies are trying to make
1000's of attempts to get into your pc

- consider it a free audit of your systems 

- if they got in ... you've got a serious, but solvable  major
problem

what is the output of netstat -nv

- you are looking for foreign address on whacky ports that have
established connections to your local pc

- if you cannot explain any of the those outside machines
connected to your pc... you've probably need to get comments
from the list what does this line mean

c ya
alvin 


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Re: Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345

2004-05-28 Thread Paul Johnson
tripolar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I dont think so- The only thing I know of is firestarter (firewall). I
 received some more messages the same except this time ports 1234 (
 service subseven) but going to a different outside IP.

What does netstat tell you what's listening?

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Re: Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345

2004-05-28 Thread tripolar
Alvin Oga wrote:
hi ya quadpolar :-)
On Thu, 27 May 2004, tripolar wrote:
 

I dont think so- The only thing I know of is firestarter (firewall). I 
received some more messages the same except this time ports 1234 ( 
service subseven) but going to a different outside IP.
   

post your logs (unedited, except for ip# ) you are reading/interpretting
- you don't care that 100's of script kiddies are trying to make
1000's of attempts to get into your pc
	- consider it a free audit of your systems 

	- if they got in ... you've got a serious, but solvable  major
	problem
 

What logs?
here are a few lines from hit list
time:May 27 21:22:29 in: out:eth1 port:12345 source:192.168.1.1 
dest:81.53.*.* len:44 tos:0x00 protocol:tcp service:netbus
time:May 27 22:10:38 in: out:eth1 port:1234 source:192.168.1.1 
dest:63.207.*.* len:40 tos:0x00 protocol:tcp service:subseven

what is the output of netstat -nv
 

netstat -nv only brought up two addresses- my isps mail servers
- you are looking for foreign address on whacky ports that have
established connections to your local pc

- if you cannot explain any of the those outside machines
connected to your pc... you've probably need to get comments
from the list what does this line mean
c ya
alvin 

 

I had had many ports forwarded from hardware firewall/router (HFR) to 
debian-sid machine because of certain programs ( which I have since shut 
down )and then I removed all port forwarding rules from HFR to debian pc. 
I will just keep an eye out on the hit list.
Thanks


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Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345

2004-05-27 Thread tripolar
cablemodemhardware firewall/routerdebian-sid machine on LAN running 
firestarter (GUI firewall program).
I see hits from my debian machine to 81.53.*.* port 12345 - under 
service it says netbus
I dont think I installed netbus. Could my machine be compromised?
Thanks

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Re: Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345

2004-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
tripolar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I see hits from my debian machine to 81.53.*.* port 12345 - under
 service it says netbus
 I dont think I installed netbus. Could my machine be compromised?

I doubt it.  Are you using PortSentry or some other port monitoring
system?

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Re: Compromised-machine?? netbus- request from my debian-sid machine to outside IP to port 12345

2004-05-27 Thread tripolar
Paul Johnson wrote:
tripolar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 

I see hits from my debian machine to 81.53.*.* port 12345 - under
service it says netbus
I dont think I installed netbus. Could my machine be compromised?
   

I doubt it.  Are you using PortSentry or some other port monitoring
system?
 

I dont think so- The only thing I know of is firestarter (firewall). I 
received some more messages the same except this time ports 1234 ( 
service subseven) but going to a different outside IP.

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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-29 Thread Robert Waldner
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:49:11 GMT, Pollywog writes:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:08:43 +0100, Robert Waldner said:
  As soon as I figure out how to get portsentry to mail -s `$TARGET$ 
   attempted bla` (I guess some 6 hours of sleep away ;-) ) I´ll be a 
   convert from my homegrown script that I use for that currently.

Logcheck will do that for you.

No need for yet another piece of software, in portsentry.conf:

KILL_RUN_CMD=/usr/bin/mail -s `connection attempt from $TARGET$` \
 waldner

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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Robert Waldner
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:51:09 +0100, Svante Signell writes:
Anyone knows what port 12345TCP is used for and which OSes are
vulnerable?

12345 is NetBus (according to www.snort.org), vulnerable is everything 
 where NetBus runs ;-) eg WinEverything=95

portscans
Note: I am on a dial-up connection. For you with fixed network access,
how often do this happen, a few times a day?

10-15/week.

cheers,
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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Willy Lee
Robert == Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:51:09 +0100, Svante Signell writes:
 Anyone knows what port 12345TCP is used for and which OSes are
 vulnerable?

 12345 is NetBus (according to www.snort.org), vulnerable is
 everything where NetBus runs ;-) eg WinEverything=95

 portscans
 Note: I am on a dial-up connection. For you with fixed network
 access, how often do this happen, a few times a day?

10-15/week.

 cheers, rw

How can I tell when I am being portscanned?  Is there an appropriate
selection of Debian packages for this?

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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Robert Waldner
On 28 Nov 2000 02:03:51 PST, Willy Lee writes:
How can I tell when I am being portscanned?

By looking at your log-files, I don´t have them at hand now, but if you 
 see something like:

ip fw-in deny bla your_ip:21
ip fw-in deny bla your_ip:22
ip fw-in deny bla your_ip:98
ip fw-in deny bla your_ip:137
ip fw-in deny bla your_ip:138
...

then that´s a _strong_ indication.

  Is there an appropriate
selection of Debian packages for this?

I wouldn´t know of one.

hth,
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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Andrei Ivanov
To capture portscans, try portsentry. It'll dump warning messages into
your syslog, and other log files, everytime a portscan trips it.
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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread C. Falconer

At 11:15 AM 11/28/00 +0100, you wrote:

  Is there an appropriate
selection of Debian packages for this?

I wouldn´t know of one.


I have an old serial terminal plugged into a null modem cable.  It sits 
just to the left of my main monitor and in syslog.conf I have

*.* /dev/ttys1

So all syslogd output for all machines is displayed on it.

All my linux boxes run tcplogd which logs connections - its not the 
greatest software around, but does okay.


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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Michael Smith
Try ippl.  It logs connection attempts.  logcheck is a tool that scans your log
files every hour and mails you the results.  It's noisy to start with, but you
can add events to your logcheck.ignore file to cut down on the false alarms for
routine traffic.

Willy Lee wrote:

 How can I tell when I am being portscanned?  Is there an appropriate
 selection of Debian packages for this?

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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Robert Waldner
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 07:41:54 +1300, C. Falconer writes:
At 11:15 AM 11/28/00 +0100, you wrote:
   Is there an appropriate
 selection of Debian packages for this?

I wouldn´t know of one.

I have an old serial terminal plugged into a null modem cable.  It sits 
just to the left of my main monitor and in syslog.conf I have
*.* /dev/ttys1

So all syslogd output for all machines is displayed on it.

That´s great for general purposes alone, but it doesn´t mail you and 
 say: hey, someone just port-scanned you or the like. and that´s 
 what I think Mario had in mind.

All my linux boxes run tcplogd which logs connections - its not the 
greatest software around, but does okay.

Simple plain old remote syslogging is a great thing, but has it´s 
limits also.

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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Pollywog

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:10:10 +0100, Robert Waldner said:


  
  That´s great for general purposes alone, but it doesn´t mail you and 
   say: hey, someone just port-scanned you or the like. and that´s 
   what I think Mario had in mind.

Logcheck and Portsentry, used together, will do that.

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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Robert Waldner
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:25:54 GMT, Pollywog writes:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:10:10 +0100, Robert Waldner said:
  
  That´s great for general purposes alone, but it doesn´t mail you and 
   say: hey, someone just port-scanned you or the like. and that´s 
   what I think Mario had in mind.

Logcheck and Portsentry, used together, will do that.

As soon as I figure out how to get portsentry to mail -s `$TARGET$ 
 attempted bla` (I guess some 6 hours of sleep away ;-) ) I´ll be a 
 convert from my homegrown script that I use for that currently.

Nice thingie.

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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on , November 28, Willy Lee did write:

 Robert == Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:51:09 +0100, Svante Signell writes:
  Anyone knows what port 12345TCP is used for and which OSes are
  vulnerable?
 
  12345 is NetBus (according to www.snort.org), vulnerable is
  everything where NetBus runs ;-) eg WinEverything=95
 
  portscans
  Note: I am on a dial-up connection. For you with fixed network
  access, how often do this happen, a few times a day?
 
 10-15/week.
 
  cheers, rw
 
 How can I tell when I am being portscanned?  Is there an appropriate
 selection of Debian packages for this?

As someone else said, you can often see it in your system logs---IF you
have your kernel configured with IP firewalling AND if you have your
firewall definition set to log blocked packets.  For the 2.2 kernel series,
see the ipchains(8) manpage.

The only dedicated software package that I know of for this sort of thing
is PortSentry, at http://www.psionic.com/abacus/portsentry/ (or do a
FreshMeat search), but it's only distributed as a tarball, not as a Debian
package.

Richard



Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Pollywog

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:08:43 +0100, Robert Waldner said:

 On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:25:54 GMT, Pollywog writes:
  On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:10:10 +0100, Robert Waldner said:

That´s great for general purposes alone, but it doesn´t mail you and 
 say: hey, someone just port-scanned you or the like. and that´s 
 what I think Mario had in mind.
  
  Logcheck and Portsentry, used together, will do that.
  
  As soon as I figure out how to get portsentry to mail -s `$TARGET$ 
   attempted bla` (I guess some 6 hours of sleep away ;-) ) I´ll be a 
   convert from my homegrown script that I use for that currently.

Logcheck will do that for you.

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Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-28 Thread Bill Goudie
On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 05:27:45PM -0600, Richard Cobbe wrote:
 The only dedicated software package that I know of for this sort of thing
 is PortSentry, at http://www.psionic.com/abacus/portsentry/ (or do a
 FreshMeat search), but it's only distributed as a tarball, not as a Debian
 package.

An official deb is now available for woody.  On a system running potato you 
can find an unoffical deb via the apt source --

deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/debian potato main

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Port 12345?

2000-11-27 Thread Svante Signell
Anyone knows what port 12345TCP is used for and which OSes are
vulnerable? (my guess is w9x) I'm getting portscanned every now and
the on this specific port. Other (known) ports are 31337UDP Back Orifice,
20034 NetBus Pro etc. but which one is corresponding to 12345?

Ports being attacked the last year (some more than once):
1TCP: tcpmux
79TCP: finger
119TCP: nntp
143TCP: imap2
161UDP: snmp
1524TCP: ingreslock
12345TCP: ??
20034TCP: Netbus Pro
31337UDP: Back Orifice

Note: I am on a dial-up connection. For you with fixed network access,
how often do this happen, a few times a day?




Re: Port 12345?

2000-11-27 Thread Michael Smith
Netbus
Ganabus back door
Netbus back door
Netbus Picture back door.

Check it out: http://www.snort.org/Database/portsearch.asp

Svante Signell wrote:

 Anyone knows what port 12345TCP is used for and which OSes are
 vulnerable? (my guess is w9x) I'm getting portscanned every now and
 the on this specific port. Other (known) ports are 31337UDP Back Orifice,
 20034 NetBus Pro etc. but which one is corresponding to 12345?

 Ports being attacked the last year (some more than once):
 1TCP: tcpmux
 79TCP: finger
 119TCP: nntp
 143TCP: imap2
 161UDP: snmp
 1524TCP: ingreslock
 12345TCP: ??
 20034TCP: Netbus Pro
 31337UDP: Back Orifice

 Note: I am on a dial-up connection. For you with fixed network access,
 how often do this happen, a few times a day?

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