Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Александър Л. Димитров wrote: Quoth Hugo Vanwoerkom: ext2. Never have used any other. I seriously hope that this was a joke... Maybe it was, but I never used anything but ext2 either, and that is no joke. It has worked fine for many years. I often considered upgrading to ext3, but so far

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 07:35, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: Александър Л. Димитров wrote: Quoth Hugo Vanwoerkom: ext2. Never have used any other. I seriously hope that this was a joke... Maybe it was, but I never used anything but ext2 either, and that is no

Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 19, 2008 5:35 AM, Jan Willem Stumpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am especially put off by the Wikipedia article on ext3. It gives a rather long list of disadvantages. One of them (No checksumming in journal) even sounds pretty frightening. The list of advantages is very short, and they

Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:35:25PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: ... But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year, unfortunately also yesterday evening. In such a case there is nothing you can do but pull

Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 19, 2008 9:39 AM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:35:25PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: ... But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year, unfortunately

Re: Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Paul Johnson wrote: Step 1: Get root privileges. Step 2: Type tune2fs -j /dev/whatever Step 3: Remount the filesystem ext3... I did this, and indeed it was amazingly easy. On a partition of about 24 G (well, this is an *old* disk!) a file /.journal of 128 M (indeed much less than 1%) was

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: Some steps may have been unnecessary, but it seems I have a working ext3 system now. It is really easy. The real smoke test will come, of course, when I pull the plug. Will do this now; if you do not hear from me, the test will have failed. Thanks to all who

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say: Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time. but it did not). If I may interject, creating the

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say: Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time. but it did

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Curt Howland wrote: If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank file. This would explain why creating the journal does not seem to take any time. But strings showed that there was a lot of stuff (at least lots of filenames) in it. Perhaps the journal is *created* as a blank

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:27:23PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote: If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank file. So when does the journaling begin? At remount? Perhaps on the next write once it is mounted as ext3? When the journal

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
To the other Mr. Johnson, sorry for the double, I botched the reply/reply to list distinction there. On Jan 19, 2008 12:27 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say: Step 6: type tune2fs -j

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel shared this with us all: --} So now I am more or less ready to take the plunge. But I would --} still like some advice. --} --} 1. Is it true that ext3 always lets you recover smoothly after a --}    freeze and pull the plug, or after a power cut? Or are