On Wed 02 Mar 2022 at 09:01:55 (+0100), Stella Ashburne wrote:
> From: "David Wright"
> >
> > As long as you have "source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*" in your
> > /e/n/interfaces file, then you can call the file wlp7s0, or wlp3s0,
> > or anything else, and it will be read. That line in quotes is
On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 19:44:35 (+0100), Stella Ashburne wrote:
> From: "David Wright"
> >
> > In addition, when using "source-directory"¹, you can leave all the
> > configuration files in place, and deactivate them by, say, adding
> > a disallowed character to their filenames, rather than having
On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 07:44:35PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Mon cheri
>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 at 11:50 PM
> > From: "David Wright"
[...]
> > In addition, when using "source-directory"¹, you can leave all the
> > configuration files in place, and deactivate them by, say,
On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 19:51:02 +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Mon cheri
>
> > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2022 at 2:43 AM
> > From: "Brian"
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
> >
Mon cheri
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2022 at 2:40 AM
> From: "Brian"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
>
> So, having been given extensive advice in this thread - what is your
> plan of ac
Mon cheri
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2022 at 2:43 AM
> From: "Brian"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
>
> Indeed I do. ifupdown handles the lo interface without them.
>
> --
> Brian.
Mon cheri
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 at 11:50 PM
> From: "David Wright"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
> In addition, when using "source-directory"¹, you can leave all the
> con
On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 19:38:07 +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
[Snip]
> Did you mean to tell me that the following lines can be omitted from both
> /etc/network/interfaces AND /etc/network/interfaces.d/brian ?
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
Indeed I do.
On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 19:23:43 +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Mon cheri
>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 at 7:22 PM
> > From: "Tim Woodall"
> > To: "Stella Ashburne"
> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: What should
Note: This reply is addressed specifically to Brian.
Mon cheri
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 at 1:59 AM
> From: "Brian"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
>
> (Nothing to do with yo
Mon cheri
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 at 7:22 PM
> From: "Tim Woodall"
> To: "Stella Ashburne"
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
> If you only have one interface then it probably d
On Wed 02 Mar 2022 at 17:59:07 (+), Brian wrote:
> On Wed 02 Mar 2022 at 09:01:55 +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> > From: "David Wright"
> > >
> > > As long as you have "source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*" in your
> > > /e/n/interfaces file, then you can call the file wlp7s0, or wlp3s0,
> > >
On Thu, 3 Mar 2022, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, March 01, 2022 10:34:40 AM Tim Woodall wrote:
I now discover that
moinmoin is no longer in bullseye so my wiki-pages about it are all gone
I don't remember many details about moin-moin (is there a dash?), but many
(most?) wikis have
On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 08:39:33AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 01, 2022 10:34:40 AM Tim Woodall wrote:
> > I now discover that
> > moinmoin is no longer in bullseye so my wiki-pages about it are all gone
>
> I don't remember many details about moin-moin (is there a
On Tuesday, March 01, 2022 10:34:40 AM Tim Woodall wrote:
> I now discover that
> moinmoin is no longer in bullseye so my wiki-pages about it are all gone
I don't remember many details about moin-moin (is there a dash?), but many
(most?) wikis have text stored in an almost plain text form
On Thu, 3 Mar 2022, Stella Ashburne wrote:
Dearie
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 at 1:59 AM
From: "Brian"
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
On Wed 02 Mar 2022 at 09:01:55 +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
Are you saying th
Dearie
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 at 1:59 AM
> From: "Brian"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
> On Wed 02 Mar 2022 at 09:01:55 +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
>
> > Are you saying that my
On Wed 02 Mar 2022 at 09:01:55 +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Dearie
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2022 at 12:20 AM
> > From: "David Wright"
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
Dearie
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2022 at 12:20 AM
> From: "David Wright"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
>
> As long as you have "source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*" in your
> /e/n
On 01/03/2022 12:44, Brian wrote:
On Tue 01 Mar 2022 at 10:36:54 +1300, Ash Joubert wrote:
On 01/03/2022 09:25, Nicolas George wrote:
In typical domestic settings, the wifi password is on a post-it near the
access point, safe from neighbors but convenient for guests.
For even greater
On Mon 28 Feb 2022 at 20:59:03 (+0100), Stella Ashburne wrote:
> The contents of my current /etc/network/interfaces file are:
>
> # The primary network interface
↓↓↓⬇↓↓
> allow-hotplug wlp3s0
> iface wlp7s0 inet static
↑↑↑⬆↑↑
Is that really what you mean to have?
>
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 02:42:29PM +, Tim Woodall wrote:
My /etc/network/interfaces has:
# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
# Include files from /etc/network/interfaces.d:
source-directory /etc/network/interfaces.d
Did you write
On Tue 01 Mar 2022 at 15:25:52 +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Dearie
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 8:13 PM
> > From: "Brian"
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
> >
>
On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 02:42:29PM +, Tim Woodall wrote:
> My /etc/network/interfaces has:
> # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
> # Include files from /etc/network/interfaces.d:
> source-directory /etc/network/interfaces.d
Did you write this file yourself, or are you using
On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 08:37:15AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
[...]
> I think you need to triple-check then. The Debian default line is
(note to self: triple-check next time ;-)
Cheers
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On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 09:11:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de [2022-03-01 07:35:20] wrote:
> > I see. As others have already noted in this thread, your WiFi PSK
> > isn't usually a high-value secret; besides, if someone has access
> > to your computer, she typically has more
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, Stella Ashburne wrote:
Dearie
Thanks for your clarification.
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 8:16 PM
From: "Tim Woodall"
To: "Stella Ashburne"
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
On Mon,
On Tue 01 Mar 2022 at 13:22:37 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 12:16:44PM +, Tim Woodall wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2022, Stella Ashburne wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > # The primary network interface
> > > allow-hotplug wlp3s0
> > > iface wlp7s0 inet static
> > >
Dearie
Thanks for your clarification.
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 8:16 PM
> From: "Tim Woodall"
> To: "Stella Ashburne"
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb
Dearie
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 8:13 PM
> From: "Brian"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
>
> /e/n/i may contain PSKs for networks other than the home network;
> friens, relatives, wor
On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 12:16:44PM +, Tim Woodall wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022, Stella Ashburne wrote:
[...]
> > # The primary network interface
> > allow-hotplug wlp3s0
> > iface wlp7s0 inet static
> >wpa-ssid JupiterRising
> >wpa-psk {a long string of alphanumeric
On Mon, 28 Feb 2022, Stella Ashburne wrote:
Dearie,
Thanks for your reply.
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 3:10 AM
From: to...@tuxteam.de
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
So if you have this in your /etc/network/interfaces
On Tue 01 Mar 2022 at 07:35:20 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:43:52PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> > Dearie
>
> [...]
>
> > According to Debian Wiki WiFi How To Use
> > (https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse), the reason for doing the split is:
> >
> > (sic)
Dearie
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 3:49 PM
> From: "Markus Schönhaber"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
>
> No, 475 is the file's size.
> The numeric value for the permission "-
Brian (12022-02-28):
> > First, ask yourself: Do you really need to protect your wifi password
> > from the users of your own computer?
> Aren't you assuming the machine is always in a safe environment?
No, I am not assuming anything when I start the sentence with “ask
yourself”.
--
Nicolas
On 2022-02-28, Brian wrote:
>>
>> qrencode -s 20 -o wifi.png "WIFI:S:Your Wifi SSID;T:WPA;P:Your Wifi
>> Passphrase;;"
>
> Very nice. Does that work when the code is onscreen and/or printed on
> paper?
>
Yes.
01.03.22, 06:04 +0100, Stella Ashburne:
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 7:18 AM
From: "Brian"
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
Om all my systems:
brian@5740:~$ ls -l /etc/network/interfaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 475 No
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 11:18:25PM +, Brian wrote:
[...]
> Om all my systems:
>
> brian@5740:~$ ls -l /etc/network/interfaces
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 475 Nov 3 19:23 /etc/network/interfaces
That's absolutely right. I already posted a correction, but it
doesn't seem to have made it
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:43:52PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Dearie
[...]
> According to Debian Wiki WiFi How To Use
> (https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse), the reason for doing the split is:
>
> (sic) Restrict the permissions of /etc/network/interfaces, to prevent
> pre-shared key
Dear Ash
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 5:36 AM
> From: "Ash Joubert"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
>
> qrencode -s 20 -o wifi.png "WIFI:S:Your Wifi SSID;T:WPA;P:Your Wifi
> Pa
Dearie
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 7:18 AM
> From: "Brian"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
> Om all my systems:
>
> brian@5740:~$ ls -l /etc/network/interfaces
> -rw-r--r-- 1 ro
On Tue 01 Mar 2022 at 10:36:54 +1300, Ash Joubert wrote:
> On 01/03/2022 09:25, Nicolas George wrote:
> > In typical domestic settings, the wifi password is on a post-it near the
> > access point, safe from neighbors but convenient for guests.
>
> For even greater convenience, especially for
On Mon 28 Feb 2022 at 21:25:01 +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Stella Ashburne (12022-02-28):
> > I quote from Debian Wiki (https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse) :
> >
> > "Restrict the permissions of /etc/network/interfaces, to prevent pre-shared
> > key (PSK) disclosure (alternatively use a
On Mon 28 Feb 2022 at 21:17:25 +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Dearie,
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 4:08 AM
> > From: "Brian"
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
> >
&g
On 01/03/2022 09:25, Nicolas George wrote:
In typical domestic settings, the wifi password is on a post-it near the
access point, safe from neighbors but convenient for guests.
For even greater convenience, especially for those of us who inflict
long randomly-generated passphrases on our
Dearie
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 4:21 AM
> From: to...@tuxteam.de
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 09:20:07PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > (
Dearie
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 4:20 AM
> From: to...@tuxteam.de
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
>
> However, if I remember your original post correctly, there were security
> reasons mentioned
Stella Ashburne (12022-02-28):
> I quote from Debian Wiki (https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse) :
>
> "Restrict the permissions of /etc/network/interfaces, to prevent pre-shared
> key (PSK) disclosure (alternatively use a separate config file such as
> /etc/network/interfaces.d/wlan0 on newer
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 09:20:07PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> (in Debian, at least) /etc/network/interfaces is only root-readable. So
This is wrong (note to self: double-check things. Gah). Sorry for any
confusion.
Cheers
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On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 08:59:03PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Dearie,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 3:10 AM
> > From: to...@tuxteam.de
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: What should I put inside t
Dearie,
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 4:08 AM
> From: "Brian"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
>
> You do not want just anyone to read /etc/network/interfaces?
>
> chmod 600 /etc/networ
On Mon 28 Feb 2022 at 19:49:32 +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> I quote from Debian Wiki (https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse) :
>
> "Restrict the permissions of /etc/network/interfaces, to prevent pre-shared
> key (PSK) disclosure (alternatively use a separate config file such as
>
Dearie,
Thanks for your reply.
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2022 at 3:10 AM
> From: to...@tuxteam.de
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?
>
>
> So if you have this in your /etc/network/interfaces somewhere:
>
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 07:49:32PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> I quote from Debian Wiki (https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse) :
>
> "Restrict the permissions of /etc/network/interfaces, to prevent pre-shared
> key (PSK) disclosure (alternatively use a separate config file such as
>
I quote from Debian Wiki (https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse) :
"Restrict the permissions of /etc/network/interfaces, to prevent pre-shared key
(PSK) disclosure (alternatively use a separate config file such as
/etc/network/interfaces.d/wlan0 on newer Debian versions): "
What should I put
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