On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 11:58:56AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moreover, most of Windows users are running their home OS with the
administration rights all day long, they used to download and install
lots of non-opened freeware from the web.
True (I did it as well)
Well, they just do
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Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Jim Hyslop wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus
products.
I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand
it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still,
Moreover, most of Windows users are running their home OS with the
administration rights all day long, they used to download and install
lots of non-opened freeware from the web.
Well, they just do lots of important/dangerous/admin tasks that should
be done normally with a lot of care. Linux
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 10:55 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Jim Hyslop wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus
products.
I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand
it is more robust and secure than MS
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On 04/20/07 04:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moreover, most of Windows users are running their home OS with the
administration rights all day long, they used to download and install
lots of non-opened freeware from the web.
Well, they just do
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Greg Folkert wrote:
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 10:55 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Uh, I wrote this level, but I'm going to snip anyway, just didn't want
someone else to get the credit for writing the stupid stuff that I do. ;)
Jim Hyslop wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus
products.
I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand
it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still, it's not totally
secure - nothing made by humans could be. So, do you
Listas Locatel wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich escribió:
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote:
If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows
is
better and has fewer security holes because insert some stupid
reason,
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote:
If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is
better and has fewer security holes because insert some stupid reason,
*THEN* you could accuse me of spreading FUD.
Windows *is*
Johannes Wiedersich escribió:
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote:
If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is
better and has fewer security holes because insert some stupid reason,
*THEN* you could accuse me
Listas Locatel wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich escribió:
Windows *is* better, since it has more users than any other OS, and
those simply can't be wrong. The same applies to M$ office.
??? think you that windows is better ??
No. In continuation to Roberto's irony, I just 'quote' what I
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Roberto C. S�nchez wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote:
If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is
better and has fewer security holes because insert some
Johannes Wiedersich escribió:
Listas Locatel wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich escribió:
Windows *is* better, since it has more users than any other OS, and
those simply can't be wrong. The same applies to M$ office.
??? think you that windows is better ??
No. In
Joe Hart wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Roberto C. S�nchez wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote:
If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is
better and has fewer security holes because insert some stupid reason,
*THEN* you could
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Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Joe Hart wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Roberto C. S�nchez wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote:
If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is
better and has
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:14:57PM +, Joe Hart wrote:
I agree with you. I guess we don't need to debate the issue since your
statements were not based on sound logic, rather they were just echoing
the stupidity of the masses.
Hi! You must be new here :-)
That has never before stopped
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Roberto � wrote:
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:14:57PM +, Joe Hart wrote:
I agree with you. I guess we don't need to debate the issue since your
statements were not based on sound logic, rather they were just echoing
the stupidity of the masses.
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote:
LOL.
Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name.
No worries. I only recently decided to increase my level of
nonconformance by including and accented character in my last name.
This has to do with my
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote:
LOL.
Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name.
No worries. I only recently decided to increase my level of
nonconformance by including
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On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote:
LOL.
Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove)
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Greg Folkert wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote:
LOL.
Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name.
No worries. I only recently
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:43 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote:
LOL.
Roberto, I apologize for my
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 17:04 +, Joe Hart wrote:
Greg Folkert wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:56:26PM +, Joe Hart wrote:
LOL.
Roberto, I apologize for my lousy MUA (IceDove) butchering your name.
No worries. I
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On 04/02/07 12:12, Greg Folkert wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:43 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because of
bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So
I'm thinking of reinstalling Evo.
Using XFce as my environment, while replying to your message:
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:39:05 -0400
Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because of
bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So
I'm thinking of reinstalling
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On 04/02/07 19:20, Ananda Samaddar wrote:
[snip]
Thought I'd just stick my oar in and recommend Sylpheed as a Gtk
based mail client it's extremely fast and configurable and has
all the functionality you'll probably need (except html mail).
It
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim
Hyslop wrote:
If I had immediately followed with some
outrageous claim that Windows is
better and has fewer security holes because
insert some stupid reason,
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 01:20 +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote:
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:39:05 -0400
Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because
of
bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME,
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
An interesting trend is that some small businesses who can't afford
to run pirated software, but also don't want/can't afford to pay
for MS Office are using OpenOffice.
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 17:25 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
Andrei Popescu wrote:
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the
Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian!
As much as I like Debian, but
Michael M. writes:
With Debian, there currently isn't any commercial premium support for
these people to turn to.
http://www.debian.org/consultants/
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On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
An interesting trend is that some small businesses who can't afford
to run pirated
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On 04/01/07 11:26, Celejar wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
An interesting
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 11:43:09 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
An interesting trend is that some small
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 19:51:54 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 12:51:54PM EDT, Andrei Popescu wrote:
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:07:37 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Hyslop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrei Popescu wrote:
Jim Hyslop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
attacks against Linux. Linux may be a much more robust and secure
system than Windows, but there are probably still security holes
lurking that nobody (at least, no honest person) has yet
On (31/03/07 12:51), Andrei Popescu wrote:
But the example of Apache demonstrates that this is a non-issue. And
it's not me saying this. Have a look at
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/22/linux_v_windows_security/
and the entire report referenced there.
Interesting... thanks
Regards
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 08:03 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
Wow, I had no idea that that German company had infiltrated the US, I
new the Dutch company Ahold had plenty of stores under different names)
but Aldi? Do you have any Lidl stores around? They are major
competitors of Aldi in Germany and
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On 03/30/07 20:26, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid
people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you
can get.
Economics
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On 03/30/07 20:05, Andrei Popescu wrote:
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the
Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian!
As much as I like Debian, but wouldn't
Andrei Popescu wrote:
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the
Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian!
As much as I like Debian, but wouldn't Ubuntu make a better option?
Actually no! If they go with
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrei Popescu wrote:
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that
the Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian!
As much as I like Debian, but wouldn't Ubuntu
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Andrei Popescu wrote:
Jim Hyslop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, watch where you sling your insults there, buddy! :-)
I think it sounded harsher than it was meant. Sorry for that.
Oh, I wasn't /really/ offended, I was just exaggerating my reaction
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:44:18 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
An interesting trend is that some small businesses who can't afford to
run pirated software, but also don't want/can't afford to pay for MS
Office are using OpenOffice.
Only those who can't afford to run
Seth Goodman wrote:
Most people could not complete a Linux install without a phone call to
tech support. I suspect that's one part of the reason there are so
few no-OS boxes. When the install doesn't turn out right, their first
call is to the people who sold them the hardware, even though
On Mar 30, 2007, at 3:23 AM, Paul Walsh wrote:
(do manufacturers have to pay M$ to allow them to pre-install
Windows?).
Yes.
But it's actually worse than that. They pay MicroSoft based on their
total sales numbers. Not just the number of machines they happen to
install Windows on.
I wrote:
You are not making sense. Rest assured that there is a _large_ flow of
money from Dell to Microsoft.
Kevin Mark writes:
What comprises this money?
Dollars.
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Paul Walsh writes:
I would have thought (perhaps naively) that producing a system with Linux
pre-installed, or with no OS, would cost less per unit than one with
Vista or XP (do manufacturers have to pay M$ to allow them to pre-install
Windows?).
The manufacturer may be paying Microsoft a
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 07:40:59AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
I wrote:
You are not making sense. Rest assured that there is a _large_ flow of
money from Dell to Microsoft.
Kevin Mark writes:
What comprises this money?
Dollars.
I was not looking for a Yogi Berra answer :-)
I was
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:45:13 -0500
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Walsh writes:
[snip]
Then again, why is it that wholemeal bread with nowt taken out (thus
presumably requiring less in the production process) costs more than
white bread?
Because you are willing to pay more
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 09:23:41AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:45:13 -0500
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Walsh writes:
[snip]
Then again, why is it that wholemeal bread with nowt taken out (thus
presumably requiring less in the production process)
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On 03/30/07 08:23, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:45:13 -0500
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Walsh writes:
[snip]
Then again, why is it that wholemeal bread with nowt taken out (thus
presumably requiring less in the
Dear Debianistas:
John Hasler wrote:
The manufacturer may be paying Microsoft a fixed fee for
every machine he ships rather than for every copy of
Microsoft Windows he ships. This makes sense when nearly
every machine has Microsoft Windows installed.
Precisely. But the sense is
(Dell's price)
Doesn't basic economics dictate that given competition, the equilibrium
price is determined by both supply and demand? Even if I'm willing to
pay a great deal, if the cost to produce the item is low, competition
should drive down the price. Are you implying that the market is a
Celejar ha scritto:
cut
should drive down the price. Are you implying that the market is a
monopoly or oligarchy?
Celejar
mafia has nothing to do with econometrics ... if You do that i will kill
you !
Luigi
p.s. really is little more complicated, that is: if you make this i will
give to
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:50:18 -0600
Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 09:23:41AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:45:13 -0500
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Walsh writes:
[snip]
Then again, why is it that wholemeal bread
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:57:02 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On 03/30/07 08:23, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:45:13 -0500
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Walsh writes:
[snip]
Then again, why is it
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:55:45 +0200
Zbigniew Wiech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Dell's price)
Doesn't basic economics dictate that given competition, the equilibrium
price is determined by both supply and demand? Even if I'm willing to
pay a great deal, if the cost to produce the item is low,
On 3/30/07, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My comments concerned whole grain bread, not Windows :).
In that case, it's an economy of scale. Most people want white bread,
so bread companies buy a lot more white flour than whole grain.
That's a steadier income stream for millers selling white
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:49:56AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:50:18 -0600
Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 09:23:41AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:45:13 -0500
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Walsh writes:
Except for Dell, most hardware vendors sell their product wholesale to
retailers. These vendors need to convince retailers to stock their product
and offer it to the public. The retail marketplace is dominated by
Microsoft. Much as I like Debian and Linux, I find it hard to believe
that
Kevin Mark writes:
I was looking for an enumeration of the types of payments. (eg. oem
licence for the OS, for the app software, no-os software licese fees to
non-ms software, ...)
Just ask Microsoft or Dell. I'm sure they will be willing to share the
details of their private financial
Max Hyre wrote:
Dear Debianistas:
John Hasler wrote:
The manufacturer may be paying Microsoft a fixed fee for
every machine he ships rather than for every copy of
Microsoft Windows he ships. This makes sense when nearly
every machine has Microsoft Windows installed.
Precisely.
Celejar writes:
Doesn't basic economics dictate that given competition, the equilibrium
price is determined by both supply and demand? Even if I'm willing to pay
a great deal, if the cost to produce the item is low, competition should
drive down the price.
People who buy cheap white bread buy
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:23:44PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
Except for Dell, most hardware vendors sell their product wholesale to
retailers. These vendors need to convince retailers to stock their product
and offer it to the public. The retail marketplace is dominated by
Michael A. Marsh writes:
In that case, it's an economy of scale. Most people want white bread, so
bread companies buy a lot more white flour than whole grain.
That was probably true decades ago but I think that these days the
whole-wheat market is large enough that the cost differences are
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:35:23 -0500
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Celejar writes:
Doesn't basic economics dictate that given competition, the equilibrium
price is determined by both supply and demand? Even if I'm willing to pay
a great deal, if the cost to produce the item is low,
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Sven Arvidsson wrote:
I see a flamewar starting.
Flamewar? :-)
Regardless of the topic of this sub-thread, there seems to be a
flameware starting over the value of Dell offering Linux. It seems one
camp is strongly in favor of the move, while
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 10:58 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Michael A. Marsh writes:
In that case, it's an economy of scale. Most people want white bread, so
bread companies buy a lot more white flour than whole grain.
That was probably true decades ago but I think that these days the
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Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:35:23 -0500
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Celejar writes:
Doesn't basic economics dictate that given competition, the equilibrium
price is determined by both supply and demand? Even if I'm willing to
Greg Folkert writes:
Ratio of White flour to Wheat flour? What do you guess?
6-7 white flour train cars to 1 Wheat flour. We are talking 160,000
pounds each train car. Each car being a 100 ton car.
Sounds like a plausible ratio. However, you're still talking carload
quantities. The
Paul E Condon writes:
Without wishing to claim any originality for the observation, I say that
whatever hardware vendors do vis-a-vis Linux is largely irrelevant to the
future of Linux.
Linux will not be commonplace on [desk|lap]tops until major hardware
vendors ship it (not that I care all
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On 03/30/07 12:06, Greg Folkert wrote:
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 10:58 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Michael A. Marsh writes:
In that case, it's an economy of scale. Most people want white bread, so
bread companies buy a lot more white flour than whole
snip
Max Hyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Their per-hardware-unit-sold
license was so much cheaper than the per-OS-copy-sold
license that it made no sense to do anything else. Thus,
any system sent out already had the cost of MS-DOS (later MS
Windows) built into its price. Hence, remarks
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On 03/30/07 11:00, Paul E Condon wrote:
[snip]
I didn't follow your argument, but of course Microsoft is a
monopoly. There is no monopoly in the computer hardware manufacturing
business, and there isn't an oligopoly, and certainly not an
In June
Paul Walsh wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 2:23 AM -0600:
Seth Goodman wrote:
Most people could not complete a Linux install without a phone call
to tech support. I suspect that's one part of the reason there are
so few no-OS boxes. When the install doesn't turn out right, their
first
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On 03/30/07 10:35, John Hasler wrote:
Celejar writes:
Doesn't basic economics dictate that given competition, the equilibrium
price is determined by both supply and demand? Even if I'm willing to pay
a great deal, if the cost to produce the item
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 12:41 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Greg Folkert writes:
Ratio of White flour to Wheat flour? What do you guess?
6-7 white flour train cars to 1 Wheat flour. We are talking 160,000
pounds each train car. Each car being a 100 ton car.
Sounds like a plausible ratio.
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On 03/30/07 11:44, Joe Hart wrote:
[snip]
Needless to say, we are indeed in the midst of a flamewar, regardless
This a flame war?
whether one things that google has become a monopoly or not.
But I see you're trying to pour gas on the fire.
-
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:10:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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On 03/30/07 11:00, Paul E Condon wrote:
[snip]
I didn't follow your argument, but of course Microsoft is a
monopoly. There is no monopoly in the computer hardware manufacturing
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John Hasler wrote:
Linux will not be commonplace on [desk|lap]tops until major hardware
vendors ship it (not that I care all that much).
Maybe you should care a little more :-)
The way I see it, making Linux more popular is a two-edged sword.
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Gnu_Raiz wrote:
What I am wondering is when will the lost sales to consumers who want
Gnu/Linux on their boxes will outway the extra cost. In other words at
what cost say Gnu/linux offer = lost sales.
It seems to me the way to go, if you're
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Ron Johnson wrote:
There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus
products.
I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand
it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still, it's not totally
secure - nothing made by humans
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:34 -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote:
John Hasler wrote:
Linux will not be commonplace on [desk|lap]tops until major hardware
vendors ship it (not that I care all that much).
Maybe you should care a little more :-)
The way I see it, making Linux more popular is a
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On 03/30/07 13:25, Greg Folkert wrote:
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 12:41 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Greg Folkert writes:
Ratio of White flour to Wheat flour? What do you guess?
6-7 white flour train cars to 1 Wheat flour. We are talking 160,000
pounds
Seth Goodman writes:
As far as separating hardware from software issues, the suggestion of a
live CD for hardware diagnostics is a good one. Unfortunately, when an
unsophisticated user calls, you still have to spend time convincing them
to run the hardware diagnostic CD first, and that costs
Greg Folkert writes:
Which is exactly why the US (in general) has a preference for [white
bread].
When my wife was living in Paris forty years ago and expressed an interest
in dark bread her French roommates were appalled that she would want to eat
peasant food.
Think for instance, trying to
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Ron Johnson wrote:
On 03/30/07 11:44, Joe Hart wrote:
[snip]
Needless to say, we are indeed in the midst of a flamewar, regardless
This a flame war?
whether one things that google has become a monopoly or not.
But I see you're trying to
Ron Johnson writes:
We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't
taste like crumbly cardboard.
See? You're picky. Cathy Consumer buys the cheapest white bread, full
stop.
Look at the ingredients list of white bread and whole wheat bread.
Just did (though we don't
Jim Hyslop writes:
It seems to me the way to go, if you're willing to risk not having a
warranty, is to demand the refund from the manufacturers. If enough
people demand it, then Dell, HP et al will start getting tired of paying
twice - once to MS and once to the consumer.
As far as I can
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On 03/30/07 13:51, Jim Hyslop wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
There's [...] no need for Symantec anti-virus
products.
I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand
it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still, it's
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On 03/30/07 13:49, John Hasler wrote:
Greg Folkert writes:
Which is exactly why the US (in general) has a preference for [white
bread].
When my wife was living in Paris forty years ago and expressed an interest
in dark bread her French
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John Hasler wrote:
When my wife was living in Paris forty years ago and expressed an interest
in dark bread her French roommates were appalled that she would want to eat
peasant food.
Interesting. A friend's father served in the German army during
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On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote:
Ron Johnson writes:
We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't
taste like crumbly cardboard.
See? You're picky.
Taste pickiness != snob pickiness. (Although snobs like to
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On 03/30/07 14:11, Joe Hart wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 03/30/07 11:44, Joe Hart wrote:
[snip]
Needless to say, we are indeed in the midst of a flamewar, regardless
This a flame war?
whether one things that google has become a monopoly or
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote:
Ron Johnson writes:
We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't
taste like crumbly cardboard.
See? You're picky.
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Greg Folkert wrote:
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote:
Ron Johnson writes:
We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that
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