Re: debian-user list problem

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:40:22 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 12 October 2015 16:04:03 moxalt wrote: > > I thought that was a bit strange and enquired > > as to whether the Debian list sends people's messages back to them by > > default. Since I had only just subscribed

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:00:17AM +0200, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > In article Lisi Reisz > wrote: > > D'oh! I was forgetting that this list is not subscribers only. > > Really?! > > I hope

Re: debian-user list problem

On Monday 12 October 2015 10:00:17 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > In article Lisi Reisz wrote: > > D'oh! I was forgetting that this list is not subscribers only. > > Really?! > > I hope this goes through. It has. > I sure have been wanting to

Re: debian-user list problem

In article to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:00:17AM +0200, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > In article Lisi Reisz > > wrote: > > > D'oh! I was

Re: debian-user list problem

Hi, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > I read this as the news group linux.debian.user on aioe.org with tin. Actually debian-user is a mailing list, not a newsgroup. (Communicating via POP, IMAP, SMTP instead of NNTP.) The group is obviously a mirror of the list. My news provider has it and it seems up

Re: debian-user list problem

In article Lisi Reisz wrote: > D'oh! I was forgetting that this list is not subscribers only. Really?! I hope this goes through. I sure have been wanting to reply to some things. I read this as the news group linux.debian.user on aioe.org

Re: debian-user list problem

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:04:03 +0300, moxalt wrote: > > Besides no attribution or quoting > > Anyone subscribed to the mailing list and in a client with threading will be > able to see the context, and anyone recently subscribed can look at the > archives for all I care. If a

Re: debian-user list problem

On Monday 12 October 2015 16:04:03 moxalt wrote: > I thought that was a bit strange and enquired > as to whether the Debian list sends people's messages back to them by > default. Since I had only just subscribed and had not received any posts > back yet I had cause to wonder. I get mine back,

Re: debian-user list problem

Hi, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > So for me follow-up in tin on aioe.org doesn't work. to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Seems the mail-news gateway doesn't dare to forward > followups in the other direction https://wiki.debian.org/UseNet "Theoretically, registering with bofh.it will allow you to post

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:36:47PM +0200, Martin Str|mberg wrote: [...] > > what you are looking for (instead of "reply"). So perhaps try an "f". > > That doesn't work. It tried several times (three?) first before realising > that my replies didn't

Re: debian-user list problem

Martin Str|mberg [2015-10-12 11:00:17+02] wrote: > Now I hope somebody can tell me if there's an easier way to reply to > the list using tin, hitting r (for reply to sender) and then replacing > the mail address of the post I'm replying to with d-u@l.d.o, so I > don't forget to do that in my

Re: debian-user list problem

On 10/11/2015 11:58 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:43:11 maderios wrote: On 10/11/2015 09:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That seems like a rather strange

Re: debian-user list problem

> Besides no attribution or quoting Anyone subscribed to the mailing list and in a client with threading will be able to see the context, and anyone recently subscribed can look at the archives for all I care. If a message deserves a point-by-point rebuttal I'll give it one in the appropriate

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sunday 11 October 2015 11:18:25 maderios wrote: > I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. > Sorry. Some details: > I subscribed for many years to debian-user, debian-user-french, > digikam-users, enlightenment-users. > All works perfectly *now*, except for

Re: debian-user list problem

Hi, Lisi Reisz wrote to Maderios: > You are still subscribed. Is he ? (Is there a list of members ?) To Maderios: What happens if you try to subscribe again with the same e-mail address ? I cannot yet imagine how your mail of Oct 8 could unsubscribe you. But one never knows. Lisi Reisz

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:20:14PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Lisi Reisz wrote to Maderios: > > You are still subscribed. > > Is he ? > (Is there a list of members ?) Thomas, insightful as always :-) You're quite right: one is able to

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 07:23:22PM +0200, maderios wrote: > Hi > I cannot receive anymore debian-user list messages since I posted this > message: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/10/msg00201.html > Yesterday, I posted a message to listmas...@lists.debian.org but I didn't > get any

Re: debian-user list problem

I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. Sorry. Some details: I subscribed for many years to debian-user, debian-user-french, digikam-users, enlightenment-users. All works perfectly *now*, except for debian-user list since I posted this message some days ago.

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:29:59AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 11 October 2015 11:18:25 maderios wrote: > > I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. > > Sorry. Some details: [...] > > I try to understand what

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 12:04:20 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:29:59AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 11 October 2015 11:18:25 maderios wrote: > > > I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. > > > Sorry. Some details: > > [...] > >

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sunday 11 October 2015 12:20:14 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Lisi Reisz wrote to Maderios: > > You are still subscribed. > > Is he ? > (Is there a list of members ?) D'oh! I was forgetting that this list is not subscribers only. Lisi > > To Maderios: > What happens if you try to subscribe

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:08:34PM +0200, maderios wrote: > Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user list > problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail from > other threads. > About my spam box: I watch it very often. It is

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:31:47PM +0200, maderios wrote: [...] > Hi > I could subscribe 'normaly' 3 minute ago to this list. > I don't understand because I never unscribed myself. Only me (or my > cat :) ) can use my computer... May be a bug? or

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 14:15:15 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:37:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > Complain at Google. Perhaps it helps. > >

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 15:17:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > I was wondering what the significance of LDOSUBSCRIBER in the headers > > of the first mail in this thread is. > > > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.9 required=4.0

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 03:01:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 15:17:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > I was wondering what the significance of LDOSUBSCRIBER in

Re: debian-user list problem

On 10/11/2015 05:08 AM, maderios wrote: Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail from other threads. About my spam box: I watch it very often. It is empty. Maderios is your problem that you do

Re: debian-user list problem

gt; > getting your emails. Perhaps *your* spam checker has decided that the > > Debian List is Spam. Have you checked? > > > > There doesn't seem to be a problem this end. It really must be your end. > > > > Lisi > > Strangely, it works partially now, only for

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:37:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > > Complain at Google. Perhaps it helps. > > How do you work out that the OP's subscription address is a gmail one? Crystal ball. Plus... reading mail headers (some excerpts): | From

Re: debian-user list problem

now, only for this thread 'debian-user list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail from other threads. About my spam box: I watch it very often. It is empty. -- Maderios

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:10:17PM +0200, Francesco Ariis wrote: > You are receiving mails because people put you in Carbon Copy (Cc:). > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/503224 check this thread > for all the messages. Yep, that

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:08:34PM +0200, maderios wrote: [...] > Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user > list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive > mail from other threads. > A

Re: debian-user list problem

seem to be a problem this end. It really must be your end. Lisi Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail from other threads. About my spam box: I watch it very often. It is empty. Some of us

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:24:45PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] > I think it just means that some of us are cc-ing him, :-) See my other mail: definitely the more plausible explanation :-) - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 13:43:50 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:08:34PM +0200, maderios wrote: > > [...] > > > Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user > > list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 14:15:15 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:37:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > > Complain at Google. Perhaps it helps. > > > > How do you work out that the OP's subscription address is a gmail one? > > Crystal ball. Plus... reading mail

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sunday 11 October 2015 12:43:50 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:08:34PM +0200, maderios wrote: > > [...] > > > Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user > &

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 17:00:43 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 03:01:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 15:17:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > > > I was wondering what the

Solved_Re: debian-user list problem

On 10/11/2015 02:31 PM, maderios wrote: I could subscribe 'normaly' 3 minute ago to this list. I don't understand because I never unscribed myself. Only me (or my cat :) ) can use my computer... May be a bug? I hope it works now. Thanks to everybody Greetings Sorry for noise. I forgot

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 06:50:13PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > Can we discard this crystal ball of yours and cast a few runes or examine > chicken entrails instead? :) :-) > X-Spam-Status gives a list of SpamAssassin tests that returned a non-zero

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 09:01:12 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 10/11/2015 05:08 AM, maderios wrote: > > >Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user > >list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail > >from other threads.

Re: debian-user list problem

Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in mailman).

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 21:06:11 +0300, moxalt wrote: > Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That > seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in > mailman). Besides no attribution or quoting you appear to have completely missed

Re: debian-user list problem

moxalt writes: > Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? Yes it does. > That seems like a rather strange default It's Gmail that has the strange default. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 20:40:32 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 06:50:13PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > Can we discard this crystal ball of yours and cast a few runes or examine > > chicken entrails instead? :) > > :-) > > > X-Spam-Status gives a list of

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: > Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That > seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in > mailman). It isn't Debian that doesn't. It's Gmail. Lisi

Re: debian-user list problem

On 10/11/2015 09:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in mailman). It isn't Debian that doesn't. It's

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:43:11 maderios wrote: > On 10/11/2015 09:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: > >> Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? > >> That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the >

debian-user list problem

Hi I cannot receive anymore debian-user list messages since I posted this message: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/10/msg00201.html Yesterday, I posted a message to listmas...@lists.debian.org but I didn't get any answer. What can I do? Thanks for any help. Greetings -- Maderios

Re: debian-user list problem

The question, is whether it is better to be mean to someone, or to ignore them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI18UrCkBEk On 10/10/15 21:48, Brian wrote: On Sat 10 Oct 2015 at 21:33:03 +0200, Timothy Hobbs wrote: Brian, that wasn't a very kind email. If you don't have time to be kind, you

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sat 10 Oct 2015 at 19:23:22 +0200, maderios wrote: > I cannot receive anymore debian-user list messages since I posted this > message: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/10/msg00201.html Between then and now you (using the technical term) cocked up your email system. Only you know

Re: debian-user list problem

Brian, that wasn't a very kind email. If you don't have time to be kind, you should stop reading the mailing list and do the things that are obviously more important to you. On 10/10/15 21:30, Brian wrote: On Sat 10 Oct 2015 at 19:23:22 +0200, maderios wrote: I cannot receive anymore

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sat 10 Oct 2015 at 21:33:03 +0200, Timothy Hobbs wrote: > Brian, that wasn't a very kind email. If you don't have time to be kind, you Thank you. I'm not impervious to flattery. > should stop reading the mailing list and do the things that are obviously > more important to you. Perhaps

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 11:30:29PM +0200, Francesco Ariis wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:01:18PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Brian isn't always "kind". But he is very knowledgeable and a definite > > asset > > to the mailing list. Please don't tell him to go away. As you say in your >

Re: debian-user list problem

On Saturday 10 October 2015 20:33:03 Timothy Hobbs wrote: > If you don't have time to be kind, > you should stop reading the mailing list and do the things that are > obviously more important to you. Brian isn't always "kind". But he is very knowledgeable and a definite asset to the mailing

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sat 10 Oct 2015 at 21:58:13 +0200, Timothy Hobbs wrote: > The question, is whether it is better to be mean to someone, or to ignore > them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI18UrCkBEk That's one of life's great imponderables.

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:01:18PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Brian isn't always "kind". But he is very knowledgeable and a definite asset > to the mailing list. Please don't tell him to go away. As you say in your > advice to him, you can always ignore him if you don't like something he

Re: debian-user list problem

On Sat 10 Oct 2015 at 23:30:29 +0200, Francesco Ariis wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:01:18PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Brian isn't always "kind". But he is very knowledgeable and a definite > > asset > > to the mailing list. Please don't tell him to go away. As you say in your > >