Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Can you open any browser and type in the address bar 192.168.1.1 and click go. This should bring you to the connection summary page of the Westell modem. I have already tried 3 different browsers and none of them will load the summary page. I finally got summary page to load and was able to change the username and password. I still don't have access to the Internet, but I think it's because I was never able to complete the modem setup on the Verizon site. I still can't do it because IE running under Wine won't download ActiveX. So I'll just have to tell the Verizon techs that I can't complete the installation process. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
Larry Fletcher wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Can you open any browser and type in the address bar 192.168.1.1 and click go. This should bring you to the connection summary page of the Westell modem. I have already tried 3 different browsers and none of them will load the summary page. I finally got summary page to load and was able to change the username and password. try: route add default gw 192.168.1.1 Laurent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 01:26:12AM -0800, Larry Fletcher wrote: I finally got summary page to load and was able to change the username and password. I still don't have access to the Internet, but I think it's because I was never able to complete the modem setup on the Verizon site. I still can't do it because IE running under Wine won't download ActiveX. So I'll just have to tell the Verizon techs that I can't complete the installation process. Larry Hello again Larry, Good! If you can connect to your modems connection summary page, then your end is working. Now you need to inform Verizon that their end is not. Make sure you didn't place one of those filters on the phone line going to your dsl modem. Also add the line about the default gateway posted earlier to your routing table. Good Luck! -- Paul Lane KC9EYE http://www.qsl.net/kc9eye/ - Life after all, is a fatal disease, and the mortality rate for humans, at the end of the day is 100%. K.C. Cole (from The Universe and the Teacup) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
Mike Bird writes: I looked at your resolv.conf in your earlier post and I don't see a problem. What problem do you see? He has no default route. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
Larry writes: I still can't do it because IE running under Wine won't download ActiveX. Try using Firefox again. Ignore any instructions Verizon gave you. I still don't have access to the Internet, but I think it's because I was never able to complete the modem setup on the Verizon site. You don't do any setup on any Verizon site. You do it on the Web server inside the modem by putting your username and password in the right places so that the modem can authenticate to Verizon. It sounds like you did that. However, it also sounds like you have no default route, probably as a side effect of your experiments with PPPoE. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I looked at your resolv.conf in your earlier post and I don't see a problem. What problem do you see? I tried accessing 'myhome.westell.com' over dial-up and it said Server not found, and I didn't think 'nameserver 192.168.1.1' was correct because it's the address to configure the modem. However it must be right because everything is working now. What happened is I called Verizon tech support and told them that I entered my user name and password on the modem configuration page, but I still couldn't access the Internet. The tech said I had no password on the Verizon side. This is probably because I wasn't using IE during the initial setup. A day or two later I asked one of the techs to setup the password, but I guess she didn't do it right. Then the tech clicked on the disable button and I instantly had access to the net. She said that if I ever reset the modem I could do this myself by entering http://192.168.1.1/verizon/redirect.htm; and then click on the disable button. Later I tried the address and the button said enable. The reason I couldn't access 192.168.1.1 in the first place was because when I tried to use pppoeconf I made a mistake when I changed an Ethernet setting in the bios, which later caused a problem for the DHCP client. At the time the change seemed to have no effect. So I want to thank everyone that tried to help me! All of the information you provided was good. By the way, I found the following site that gives some good information about the Westell 6100 modem: http://www.dslreports.com/faq/bellsouth/3.14_Westell_2100_2200_6100_Info Thanks again! Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
Larry writes: I tried accessing 'myhome.westell.com' over dial-up and it said Server not found, Not surprising. and I didn't think 'nameserver 192.168.1.1' was correct because it's the address to configure the modem. That is the IP address of the modem. The Web server in the modem that is used to configure it is on port 80 at that address. Browsers automatically connect to port 80. Other services provided by the modem (such as name service) are on other ports. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Larry writes: What I'm thinking is maybe Verizon gives people different modems. My modem says it's a DSL2+Router, so maybe it would work if it was just a DSL2 modem without the Router? Pppoeconfig will work if the modem is configured for bridge mode (like mine) but not if it is configured as a router (like yours). I suggest that you follow Mike Bird's advice below. You are making it more complex than it is. Going by the replies I've received, if I use DHCP I will have to use IE to set the username and password in the modem (the IE I have running under Wine can't access the modem). I think this is probably true, because I don't see a way to enter the username and password in dhclient.conf. Should the username be entered in the modem as just 'user' or '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'? I'll try to setup DHCP without a password and see if it works, but it will take awhile to figure this out. I do know someone that uses Windows and they live close enough that I might be able to use their computer to set the modem. The techs at Verizon say I could change the modem from router mode to bridge mode using IE, but then I would have to use a router with the modem, which I don't have don't want to do. So is it possible to use the modem in bridge mode with pppoe and not use a router? If so, it seems like it might be better this way because then I will probably be able to see the transfer rate on my toolbar. But then it might be faster using DHCP. Does using the modem in router mode protect the computer better than using it in bridge mode? Anyway this is still pretty confusing to me, so I hope I'll be able to figure it out in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the help so far, Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
Original Message: - From: Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:51:29 -0800 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL I've been using Debian with dial-up for about 8 years and it's getting pretty slow, so I thought I would try DSL. The problem is I have absolutely no understanding of how DSL works. If I could get a connection I don't even understand how the browsers, etc. know how to use it. And this is after reading the docs, searching Google and the Debian list, etc. Is there a good step by step guide somewhere? When I run pppoeconf I get: the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. I have also tried pppoe-setup. At this point, I really wonder if the modem is even connected to the computer. Is there a way to check it? I have no idea what to do next, so any help would be greatly appreciated. The following is what I have so far and I know I'm not even close because Apache, FTP, and Dict no longer work. Westell 6100 modem DSL2+Router I have added my password information to chap-secrets and pap-secrets. Syslog - eth0: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xdc00, IRQ 11, 00:d0:09:c9:6d:94 lsmod - pppoe 14528 0 pppox 3720 1 pppoe sis900 20612 0 /etc/network/interfaces: auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp auto dsl-provider iface dsl-provider inet ppp provider dsl-provider pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf lotek:~# ifup eth0 Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5 ppp0: unknown hardware address type 512 ppp1: unknown hardware address type 512 sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 ppp0: unknown hardware address type 512 ppp1: unknown hardware address type 512 sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 Listening on LPF/eth0/00:18:3a:f7:c4:14 Sending on LPF/eth0/00:18:3a:f7:c4:14 Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 bound to 192.168.1.47 -- renewal in 43200 seconds. lotek:~# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:3A:F7:C4:14 inet addr:192.168.1.47 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::218:3aff:fef7:c414/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:12088 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:150 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:725852 (708.8 KiB) TX bytes:8530 (8.3 KiB) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xdc00 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 LOOPBACK MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1718 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1718 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:123662 (120.7 KiB) TX bytes:123662 (120.7 KiB) ppp1 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol POINTOPOINT NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) there are several versions of DSL. The most common uses what is known as discrete multitone modulation. The spectrum of the cable is divided into frequency bins. The bottom-most bin is used for POTS (Plain old telephone service). The upper bins are divided into several hundred channels, some of which are used for transmitting-Upstream and the rest are used for receiving-Downstream. Regularly the downstream channels exceed the upstream channels giving rise to the term Asymmetric in ADSL. In each bin the spectrum is used much like that of a conventional modem. However prior to the transmission of actual data the DSL modem at the customer's premesis and that at the ISP (usually called a DSLAM) exchange signals in an attempt to maximize the bit rate in each bin (independently). Once the bit rate is established control is passed to a higher level protocol, usually the Point-to Point protocol (PPP) which provides the connectivity and in some cases authentication (logon) and info exchange (e.g. DNS, default router). Hope this helps. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I've been using Debian with dial-up for about 8 years and it's getting pretty slow, so I thought I would try DSL. The problem is I have absolutely no understanding of how DSL works. If I could get a connection I don't even understand how the browsers, etc. know how to use it. And this is after reading the docs, searching Google and the Debian list, etc. Is there a good step by step guide somewhere? there are several versions of DSL. The most common uses what is known as discrete multitone modulation. The spectrum of the cable is divided into frequency bins. The bottom-most bin is used for POTS (Plain old telephone service). The upper bins are divided into several hundred channels, some of which are used for transmitting-Upstream and the rest are used for receiving-Downstream. Regularly the downstream channels exceed the upstream channels giving rise to the term Asymmetric in ADSL. In each bin the spectrum is used much like that of a conventional modem. However prior to the transmission of actual data the DSL modem at the customer's premesis and that at the ISP (usually called a DSLAM) exchange signals in an attempt to maximize the bit rate in each bin (independently). Once the bit rate is established control is passed to a higher level protocol, usually the Point-to Point protocol (PPP) which provides the connectivity and in some cases authentication (logon) and info exchange (e.g. DNS, default router). Hope this helps. This is interesting. I just wish I was a little closer to getting everything configured correctly. Thank you and thanks to everyone else that has tried to help. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
On Sat January 19 2008 10:09:49 Larry Fletcher wrote: Going by the replies I've received, if I use DHCP I will have to use IE to set the username and password in the modem (the IE I have running under Wine can't access the modem). I think this is probably true, because I don't see a way to enter the username and password in dhclient.conf. Should the username be entered in the modem as just 'user' or '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'? Most ISP's want the username there rather than the email address. I'll try to setup DHCP without a password and see if it works, but it will take awhile to figure this out. See my previous email. You need PPP and PPPOE removed, and a DHCP client installed. The DHCP client needs no configuration. I do know someone that uses Windows and they live close enough that I might be able to use their computer to set the modem. The techs at Verizon say I could change the modem from router mode to bridge mode using IE, but then I would have to use a router with the modem, which I don't have don't want to do. So is it possible to use the modem in bridge mode with pppoe and not use a router? If so, it seems like it might be better this way because then I will probably be able to see the transfer rate on my toolbar. But then it might be faster using DHCP. Does using the modem in router mode protect the computer better than using it in bridge mode? Once you understand this stuff you can play with it and make changes as much as you want. For now I suggest that you focus on the simple standard approach. Your DSL/modem/router will be using PPPOE (or PPPOA) to talk over the phone line. It will be routing and NAT'ing and will have a working DHCP server. Your DSL/modem/router and Linux box will be communicating using UDP and TCP and ICMP over IP over ethernet, with the DHCP client in the Linux box automatically picking up the correct settings from the DHCP server in the DSL/modem/router. With a default Debian install this is automatic. (Ditto Windows.) You might want to simply wipe out all the changes you've made and reinstall Debian. Otherwise remove all the PPP and PPPOE stuff, make sure your have a DHCP client installed, and make sure your eth0 is configured in /etc/network/interfaces something like this: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp Anyway this is still pretty confusing to me, so I hope I'll be able to figure it out in the next couple of weeks. It's like you're trying to drive a car by manually operating the valves on each cylinder. Just turn the key and step on the gas. Later you can figure out how the engine works and and start tweaking things. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 10:09:49AM -0800, Larry Fletcher wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Larry writes: What I'm thinking is maybe Verizon gives people different modems. My modem says it's a DSL2+Router, so maybe it would work if it was just a DSL2 modem without the Router? Pppoeconfig will work if the modem is configured for bridge mode (like mine) but not if it is configured as a router (like yours). I suggest that you follow Mike Bird's advice below. You are making it more complex than it is. Going by the replies I've received, if I use DHCP I will have to use IE to set the username and password in the modem (the IE I have running under Wine can't access the modem). I think this is probably true, because I don't see a way to enter the username and password in dhclient.conf. Should the username be entered in the modem as just 'user' or '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'? I'll try to setup DHCP without a password and see if it works, but it will take awhile to figure this out. I do know someone that uses Windows and they live close enough that I might be able to use their computer to set the modem. The techs at Verizon say I could change the modem from router mode to bridge mode using IE, but then I would have to use a router with the modem, which I don't have don't want to do. So is it possible to use the modem in bridge mode with pppoe and not use a router? If so, it seems like it might be better this way because then I will probably be able to see the transfer rate on my toolbar. But then it might be faster using DHCP. Does using the modem in router mode protect the computer better than using it in bridge mode? Anyway this is still pretty confusing to me, so I hope I'll be able to figure it out in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the help so far, Larry Hello Larry, I am running debian etch with verizon dsl. I also have the Westell 6100 dsl modem. I believe that the suggestions you are getting in regards to dumping everything having to do with pppoe are correct. Have you gone into the connections settings of your browser and configured it for direct connection to the internet? Can you open any browser and type in the address bar 192.168.1.1 and click go. This should bring you to the connection summary page of the Westell modem. If you can not connect to this page, could you provide, the output of `ifconfig`, `cat /etc/resolv.conf`, `route`. -- Paul Lane KC9EYE http://www.qsl.net/kc9eye/ - Life after all, is a fatal disease, and the mortality rate for humans, at the end of the day is 100%. K.C. Cole (from The Universe and the Teacup) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
Larry writes: Going by the replies I've received, if I use DHCP I will have to use IE to set the username and password in the modem (the IE I have running under Wine can't access the modem). Why do you think you have to use IE? The Web server in the modem will work with any browser. Try http://192.168.1.1 from Firefox in Linux. I'll try to setup DHCP without a password and see if it works, but it will take awhile to figure this out. You don't need to set up or configure the DHCP client. Just install it and be happy. You do need to put the username and password Verizon gave you into the modem. You do that via the Web page I mentioned above. Do so and everything should just work -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Hello Larry, I am running debian etch with verizon dsl. I also have the Westell 6100 dsl modem. I believe that the suggestions you are getting in regards to dumping everything having to do with pppoe are correct. Have you gone into the connections settings of your browser and configured it for direct connection to the internet? It's been that way for a long time. Can you open any browser and type in the address bar 192.168.1.1 and click go. This should bring you to the connection summary page of the Westell modem. I have already tried 3 different browsers and none of them will load the summary page. If you can not connect to this page, could you provide, the output of `ifconfig`, `cat /etc/resolv.conf`, `route`. I know there's a problem with the `resolv.conf` but I don't know how to fix it. That's why I said it would probaby take me awhile to figure it out DHCP. I can't find `route`. lotek:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp lotek:~# ifup eth0 Listening on LPF/eth0/00:18:3a:f7:c4:14 Sending on LPF/eth0/00:18:3a:f7:c4:14 Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1 DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 bound to 192.168.1.46 -- renewal in 33461 seconds. lotek:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf search myhome.westell.com nameserver 192.168.1.1 nameserver 192.168.1.1 lotek:~# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:3A:F7:C4:14 inet addr:192.168.1.46 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::218:3aff:fef7:c414/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:3010 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:113 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:181744 (177.4 KiB) TX bytes:10831 (10.5 KiB) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xdc00 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:351 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:351 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1518216 (1.4 MiB) TX bytes:1518216 (1.4 MiB) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
On Sat January 19 2008 18:55:27 Larry Fletcher wrote: I can't find `route`. Without 'route' your system may be unable to setup your default route to the internet. I don't understand what happened to 'route' on your system, as it is part of the 'net-tools' package and you have 'ifconfig' which is also in that package. Do you have 'ip'? Try this: 'ip route show'. If 'ip' doesn't work, try reinstalling the 'net-tools' package and then ifdown/up your eth0 again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
Larry writes: I know there's a problem with the `resolv.conf` but I don't know how to fix it. Try sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf. I can't find `route`. /sbin/route -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
Mike Bird writes: Without 'route' your system may be unable to setup your default route to the internet. I don't understand what happened to 'route' on your system He has it. It is at /sbin/route. He does not have /sbin in his path so when he types route as a user it doesn't work. /sbin/route will. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: On Sat January 19 2008 18:55:27 Larry Fletcher wrote: I can't find `route`. Without 'route' your system may be unable to setup your default route to the internet. I don't understand what happened to 'route' on your system, as it is part of the 'net-tools' package and you have 'ifconfig' which is also in that package. Do you have 'ip'? Try this: 'ip route show'. If 'ip' doesn't work, try reinstalling the 'net-tools' package and then ifdown/up your eth0 again. I'm sorry, I thought route was a file. lotek:~# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
On Sat January 19 2008 21:25:25 Larry Fletcher wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: On Sat January 19 2008 18:55:27 Larry Fletcher wrote: lotek:~# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway GenmaskFlags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 Running route add default gw 192.168.1.1 may improve things, at least until the next reboot. I don't recognize the asterisk. Please show us the output of dpkg -s net-tools and the content of the file /etc/debian_version. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Larry writes: I know there's a problem with the `resolv.conf` but I don't know how to fix it. Try sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf. It's not installed. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
On Sat January 19 2008 22:36:20 Larry Fletcher wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Larry writes: I know there's a problem with the `resolv.conf` but I don't know how to fix it. Try sudo apt-get remove --purge zeroconf. It's not installed. I looked at your resolv.conf in your earlier post and I don't see a problem. What problem do you see? --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
On Thursday 17 January 2008 08:51 pm, Larry wrote: I've been using Debian with dial-up for about 8 years and it's getting pretty slow, so I thought I would try DSL. The problem is I have absolutely no understanding of how DSL works. If I could get a connection I don't even understand how the browsers, etc. know how to use it. And this is after reading the docs, searching Google and the Debian list, etc. Is there a good step by step guide somewhere? When I run pppoeconf I get: the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. I have also tried pppoe-setup. At this point, I really wonder if the modem is even connected to the computer. Is there a way to check it? I have no idea what to do next, so any help would be greatly appreciated. The following is what I have so far and I know I'm not even close because Apache, FTP, and Dict no longer work. Westell 6100 modem DSL2+Router I have added my password information to chap-secrets and pap-secrets. Another package you might want to consider is: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/pppoe I used to use that with Verizon. Your biggest consideration is your Westel routercan it do the authentication for you...and can it act as a DHCP server? If it can do those things, then you don't need anything else. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
I have been using pppoeconf with a verizon dsl modem for three years with no problem whatsoever. I have an old box I use as a firewall - two ethernet cards and always the current Debian stable distribution. One ethernet card is connected to the Verizon dsl modem which is connected to the phone line. Type pppoeconf and it immediately finds the access concentrator. I know this is no help if this doesn't work for you but you should know that it is possible and no hassle whatsoever. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
Larry writes: What I'm thinking is maybe Verizon gives people different modems. My modem says it's a DSL2+Router, so maybe it would work if it was just a DSL2 modem without the Router? Pppoeconfig will work if the modem is configured for bridge mode (like mine) but not if it is configured as a router (like yours). I suggest that you follow Mike Bird's advice below. You are making it more complex than it is. Does anyone know how I can fix the Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP? Ignore it. It's just a warning that, in this case, means nothing. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
On Fri January 18 2008 10:20:11 Larry Fletcher wrote: This morning I noticed something new in the plog: Jan 18 10:05:43 lotek pppd[4903]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0 Jan 18 10:05:43 lotek pppd[4903]: Using interface ppp0 Jan 18 10:05:43 lotek pppd[4903]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP Jan 18 10:05:43 lotek pppd[4903]: local IP address 10.64.64.64 Jan 18 10:05:43 lotek pppd[4903]: remote IP address 10.112.112.112 Does anyone know how I can fix the Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP? I've been reading man pppd and the options file, but I haven't figured it out yet. Delete everything related to PPP and PPPOE from your system. Your DSL router is handling PPPOE for you and you're only confusing yourself by trying to do PPPOE over the ethernet connection to your router. Simply make sure your eth0 is configured in /etc/network/interfaces something like this: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp - and that you have dhcp-client or dhcp3-client installed. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I have been using pppoeconf with a verizon dsl modem for three years with no problem whatsoever. I have an old box I use as a firewall - two ethernet cards and always the current Debian stable distribution. One ethernet card is connected to the Verizon dsl modem which is connected to the phone line. Type pppoeconf and it immediately finds the access concentrator. I know this is no help if this doesn't work for you but you should know that it is possible and no hassle whatsoever. All of the replys I have received so far are the same thing I found in the archives. It seems to either work or it doesn't. What I'm thinking is maybe Verizon gives people different modems. My modem says it's a DSL2+Router, so maybe it would work if it was just a DSL2 modem without the Router? This morning I noticed something new in the plog: Jan 18 10:05:43 lotek pppd[4903]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0 Jan 18 10:05:43 lotek pppd[4903]: Using interface ppp0 Jan 18 10:05:43 lotek pppd[4903]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP Jan 18 10:05:43 lotek pppd[4903]: local IP address 10.64.64.64 Jan 18 10:05:43 lotek pppd[4903]: remote IP address 10.112.112.112 Does anyone know how I can fix the Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP? I've been reading man pppd and the options file, but I haven't figured it out yet. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
Mark Neidorff wrote: On Thursday 17 January 2008 08:51 pm, Larry wrote: I've been using Debian with dial-up for about 8 years and it's getting pretty slow, so I thought I would try DSL. The problem is I have absolutely no understanding of how DSL works. If I could get a connection I don't even understand how the browsers, etc. know how to use it. And this is after reading the docs, searching Google and the Debian list, etc. Is there a good step by step guide somewhere? When I run pppoeconf I get: the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. I have also tried pppoe-setup. At this point, I really wonder if the modem is even connected to the computer. Is there a way to check it? I have no idea what to do next, so any help would be greatly appreciated. The following is what I have so far and I know I'm not even close because Apache, FTP, and Dict no longer work. Westell 6100 modem DSL2+Router I have added my password information to chap-secrets and pap-secrets. Another package you might want to consider is: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/pppoe I used to use that with Verizon. Your biggest consideration is your Westel routercan it do the authentication for you...and can it act as a DHCP server? If it can do those things, then you don't need anything else. Mark I believe that is the same router that I used when I had Verizon DSL. If so, it does act as a DHCP server. I set my box to connect with DHCP, connected and turned on the router, then my computer. Everything worked perfectly. I am now using Verizon FIOS with the identical setup on my box. I didn't have to change anything since I still connect by DHCP. -- Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
I've been using Debian with dial-up for about 8 years and it's getting pretty slow, so I thought I would try DSL. The problem is I have absolutely no understanding of how DSL works. If I could get a connection I don't even understand how the browsers, etc. know how to use it. And this is after reading the docs, searching Google and the Debian list, etc. Is there a good step by step guide somewhere? When I run pppoeconf I get: the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. I have also tried pppoe-setup. At this point, I really wonder if the modem is even connected to the computer. Is there a way to check it? I have no idea what to do next, so any help would be greatly appreciated. The following is what I have so far and I know I'm not even close because Apache, FTP, and Dict no longer work. Westell 6100 modem DSL2+Router I have added my password information to chap-secrets and pap-secrets. Syslog - eth0: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xdc00, IRQ 11, 00:d0:09:c9:6d:94 lsmod - pppoe 14528 0 pppox 3720 1 pppoe sis900 20612 0 /etc/network/interfaces: auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp auto dsl-provider iface dsl-provider inet ppp provider dsl-provider pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf lotek:~# ifup eth0 Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5 ppp0: unknown hardware address type 512 ppp1: unknown hardware address type 512 sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 ppp0: unknown hardware address type 512 ppp1: unknown hardware address type 512 sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 Listening on LPF/eth0/00:18:3a:f7:c4:14 Sending on LPF/eth0/00:18:3a:f7:c4:14 Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 bound to 192.168.1.47 -- renewal in 43200 seconds. lotek:~# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:3A:F7:C4:14 inet addr:192.168.1.47 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::218:3aff:fef7:c414/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:12088 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:150 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:725852 (708.8 KiB) TX bytes:8530 (8.3 KiB) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xdc00 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 LOOPBACK MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1718 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1718 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:123662 (120.7 KiB) TX bytes:123662 (120.7 KiB) ppp1 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol POINTOPOINT NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
On Thu January 17 2008 17:51:29 Larry wrote: When I run pppoeconf I get: the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. I have also tried pppoe-setup. At this point, I really wonder if the modem is even connected to the computer. Is there a way to check it? To use pppoe your DSL modem must be in transparent mode, which is unusual in the US. Most people use the DSL modem as a router, in which case you just setup ethernet to get IP from DHCP, and forget about pppoe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
* Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080117 21:28]: I've been using Debian with dial-up for about 8 years and it's getting pretty slow, so I thought I would try DSL. The problem is I have absolutely no understanding of how DSL works. If I could get a connection I don't even understand how the browsers, etc. know how to use it. And this is after reading the docs, searching Google and the Debian list, etc. Is there a good step by step guide somewhere? When I run pppoeconf I get: the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. I have also tried pppoe-setup. At this point, I really wonder if the modem is even connected to the computer. Is there a way to check it? ... I think that the easiest possible way to handle PPPoE is with SmoothWall Express 2.0 (www.smoothwall.org). SmoothWall is a GPL firewall/router package which pre-configured, is administered through a web interface, and is extremely well documented with internal, on-line help files. SmoothWall requires only an old PC of the Pentium variety (200 MHz Pentium processor, 64 Mbyte RAM, 1 Gbyte drive, CD ROM for installation, 2 ethernet ports). After you download a small ISO image and burn a CD, you can install SmoothWall in about 15 minutes. Once SmoothWall has been installed, go to any machine in the LAN, open a browser, and view the SmoothWall administration web page at http://192.168.1.1:81 . You can set up SmoothWall to act as a DHCP server for the LAN, and you can set it up to handle PPPoE. If you need help, every web page has a HELP button which brings up a comprehensive explanation of the parameters and options. Should you need to return to dial-up, it takes only a few minutes to switch SmoothWall from DSL to dial-up or from dial-up to DSL. I have been running SmoothWall Express 2.0 for several years, and it has been trouble-free. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoeconf / Verizon DSL
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: On Thu January 17 2008 17:51:29 Larry wrote: When I run pppoeconf I get: the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. I have also tried pppoe-setup. At this point, I really wonder if the modem is even connected to the computer. Is there a way to check it? To use pppoe your DSL modem must be in transparent mode, which is unusual in the US. Most people use the DSL modem as a router, in which case you just setup ethernet to get IP from DHCP, and forget about pppoe. I have no idea what that means, but I'll give DHCP a try if you know of some good documentation that explains how to set it up. Can you recommend some packages? On the other hand, I might have made some progress by removing a DHCP package I tried and changing /etc/network/interfaces back to the way it was. At least now I can use Apache, FTP, and Dict again. Now when I run 'pon dsl-provider' and plog I get: Jan 17 19:54:08 lotek pppd[6273]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0 Jan 17 19:54:08 lotek pppd[6273]: Using interface ppp0 Jan 17 19:54:08 lotek pppd[6273]: found interface eth0 for proxy arp Jan 17 19:54:08 lotek pppd[6273]: local IP address 10.64.64.64 Jan 17 19:54:08 lotek pppd[6273]: remote IP address 10.112.112.112 If I paste 10.64.64.64 into the browser I get my system, but if I paste 10.112.112.112 I get nothing. In the syslog it says: Jan 17 19:55:48 lotek pppoe[6312]: Timeout waiting for PADO packets Jan 17 19:56:57 lotek pppd[6273]: Starting link Jan 17 19:56:57 lotek pppd[6273]: Serial connection established. Jan 17 19:56:57 lotek pppd[6273]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/3 Jan 17 19:57:28 lotek pppd[6273]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Jan 17 19:57:28 lotek pppd[6273]: Connection terminated. Jan 17 19:57:32 lotek pppoe[6327]: Timeout waiting for PADO packets I have read that it should be 'Connect: ppp0 -- eth0', but I don't know why it's not right. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
