Re: scanner recommendation

[Joe]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 14:59:12 -0400
Default User  wrote:


> 
> Thanks to all for the information.
> 
> In regard to Brian's request for more information, my use case is
> mostly just trying to digitize decades of personal paper documents,
> such as letters, pictures, greeting cards, etc.
> And also to occasionally satisfy the demand of a company or other
> institution, for some business-related or legal matter.
> 
> After some thought, I am leaning toward just getting another
> stationary flatbed scanner only, rather than a multi-function device
> or mobile scanner.  I don't plan to take it on the road.  And often,
> simpler is better.  And I like the idea of device modularity, i.e.,
> that if my scanner goes out, my separate printer would still work
> fine.  And vice-versa.

I've stayed out of this so far as I have just one old single-purpose
scanner. It hasn't been heavily used, but it's just coming up to 20
years old, which is a reliability datum. It's a Canon Lide 20. I also
prefer single-function devices. A minor point here: my wife uses a
printer for craft work, and needs to use heavy media i.e. 250-300gsm.
This implies as straight a paper path as possible, hence a top-feed
printer, hence not one with a scanner on the top.
> 
> I do NOT need a device that will send faxes, make phone calls, or make
> coffee in the morning.
> 
> I DO need something that should be reliable, last a while, and work
> under Debian (64-bit) with a minimum of configuration.  In that
> regard, note that Simple-Scan worked fine for me, but Xsane seems
> maybe too complicated for my needs currently.

Yes, I use Simple Scan. XSane will do all kinds of wonderful things, but
I prefer to do them in Gimp, which is even more versatile. If a scanner
driver could actually alter the gamma of the pickup devices, that would
tilt the balance, but they can't, it's all processing.
 
> 
> Unfortunately, I have some other, more important things going on right
> now that require my attention and have higher priority than replacing
> the scanner.

Indeed. I'd like something a bit quicker, but I'm not willing to pay
the current price for standalone scanners, so I'll carry on with this
antique as long as it's willing.

-- 
Joe

Re: scanner recommendation

[Default User]

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:27 AM Russell  wrote:
>
> Brian  wrote:
>
> > As with all of these asking for recommendations type questions, there
> > is little detail provided. For example, do you want a standalone scanner
> > or would an MFD suit?
> >
> > sane-airscan supports all modern MFDs. Shopping online would allow you
> > to submit your preferred choice here for scrutiny.
> >
>
> I really like my HP MFD laser printer/scanner. I use a combination of
> hplip and CUPS and I'm able to scan over wifi in SimpleScan and XSane. I
> used hp-makeuri that is part of hplip and used that URI to add the
> printer in the CUPS web interface.
>
> Altough, I've never gotten the autofeed to work properly... :(
>
> --
> rust
> 0x68caecc97f6a90122e51c0692c88d9cb6b58a3dc
>


Thanks to all for the information.

In regard to Brian's request for more information, my use case is
mostly just trying to digitize decades of personal paper documents,
such as letters, pictures, greeting cards, etc.
And also to occasionally satisfy the demand of a company or other
institution, for some business-related or legal matter.

After some thought, I am leaning toward just getting another
stationary flatbed scanner only, rather than a multi-function device
or mobile scanner.  I don't plan to take it on the road.  And often,
simpler is better.  And I like the idea of device modularity, i.e.,
that if my scanner goes out, my separate printer would still work
fine.  And vice-versa.

I do NOT need a device that will send faxes, make phone calls, or make
coffee in the morning.

I DO need something that should be reliable, last a while, and work
under Debian (64-bit) with a minimum of configuration.  In that
regard, note that Simple-Scan worked fine for me, but Xsane seems
maybe too complicated for my needs currently.

Unfortunately, I have some other, more important things going on right
now that require my attention and have higher priority than replacing
the scanner.

So it might take a little while.  But thanks again for the replies.

Re: scanner recommendation

[Russell]

Brian  wrote:
 
> As with all of these asking for recommendations type questions, there
> is little detail provided. For example, do you want a standalone scanner
> or would an MFD suit?
> 
> sane-airscan supports all modern MFDs. Shopping online would allow you
> to submit your preferred choice here for scrutiny.
> 

I really like my HP MFD laser printer/scanner. I use a combination of
hplip and CUPS and I'm able to scan over wifi in SimpleScan and XSane. I
used hp-makeuri that is part of hplip and used that URI to add the
printer in the CUPS web interface.

Altough, I've never gotten the autofeed to work properly... :(

-- 
rust
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Re: scanner recommendation

[Brian]

On Mon 19 Apr 2021 at 14:02:22 -0400, Default User wrote:

[...}


> Okay, thanks guys!
> 
> Now it's either:
> 1 - shop online, buy something sight-unseen, and hope it works, or
> 2 - shop by visiting one or more of the few physical stores remaining, and
> risk dying of Covid-19 or its mutations.
> 
> Decisions, decisions . . .

As with all of these asking for recommendations type questions, there
is little detail provided. For example, do you want a standalone scanner
or would an MFD suit?

sane-airscan supports all modern MFDs. Shopping online would allow you
to submit your preferred choice here for scrutiny.

-- 
Brian.

Re: scanner recommendation

[Default User]

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 09:12 Jonathan Dowland 
wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 08:48:12AM +0200, john doe wrote:
> >You could choose a scanner that is 'complete'ly supported from the Sane
> >(1) project
> >
> >1)  www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#SCANNERS
>
> Excellent advice. For this reason I recently bought a 2nd-hand Canon
> LiDE 25 and I'm perfectly happy with it.
>
> --
> Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
>
> Jonathan Dowland
> ✎j...@debian.org
>   https://jmtd.net





Okay, thanks guys!

Now it's either:
1 - shop online, buy something sight-unseen, and hope it works, or
2 - shop by visiting one or more of the few physical stores remaining, and
risk dying of Covid-19 or its mutations.

Decisions, decisions . . .

Re: scanner recommendation

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 08:48:12AM +0200, john doe wrote:

You could choose a scanner that is 'complete'ly supported from the Sane
(1) project

1)  www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#SCANNERS


Excellent advice. For this reason I recently bought a 2nd-hand Canon
LiDE 25 and I'm perfectly happy with it.

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  Jonathan Dowland
✎j...@debian.org
   https://jmtd.net

Re: scanner recommendation

[Brian]

On Mon 19 Apr 2021 at 09:31:47 +0200, Klaus Jantzen wrote:

[...]

> I am using a CanoScan LiDE 400. I bought it because they have a (very
> simple) Linux support.
> 
> The software is a not very clever but works nicely. The images (jpg, pdf)
> are good. There are a lot of buttons on the machine but you cannot use them.
> 
> I tried to use xsane but that does not know the scanner.

My advice would be to read here:

  https://github.com/alexpevzner/sane-airscan

sane-airscan is shipped on bullseye and in backports on buster. ipp-usb
is the default on bullseye (see its Release Notes), but it will have to
be obtained from the above link on buster and have "interface = all" put
in /etc/ipp-usb/ipp-usb.conf.

Xsane and simple-scan now become usable. sane-airscan is much better than
anything provided ny Canon.

-- 
Brian.

Re: scanner recommendation

[Klaus Jantzen]

On 4/18/21 9:57 PM, Default User wrote:

Hi!

It may be time for a new scanner.

For years I have used a Visioneer OneTouch 7100 usb flatbed scanner on
various x86 computers running various versions of Debian and
simple-scan.

Currently:
Debian Unstable (updated, of course)
Linux 5.10.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.28-1 (2021-04-09) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Cinnamon 4.8.6-2
Dell Inspiron 3542 (laptop, circa 2015), 64-bit
Scanner software: simple-scan, from Debian Unstable repositories
Use case: light duty home use.

For years it worked "okay".  But it suddenly started producing scans
with a narrow pink stripe down the left side of the scan image
produced.

I tried installing xsane (too complicated for me), which I did not
configure at all.  And if I just clicked the scan button in xsane it
would "dim out" and then do nothing.  As a bonus, simple-scan then no
longer worked; upon clicking scan in simple-scan it would just do
nothing, with a rotating "activity busy" circle displaying
indefinitely.

So I uninstalled (purged) both xsane and simple-scan, re-installed
simple-scan, then rebooted.
Simple-scan now "works", but still produces the pink stripe down the
image left side, just as before.

: (

Note: the scanner is (about) 20 years, so no parts or service
available from Visioneer.

: (

So . . .
Can anyone recommend a good replacement scanner?

I am really hoping to get something that works "out of the box", with
little or no configuration, etc.

I am using a CanoScan LiDE 400. I bought it because they have a (very 
simple) Linux support.


The software is a not very clever but works nicely. The images (jpg, 
pdf) are good. There are a lot of buttons on the machine but you cannot 
use them.


I tried to use xsane but that does not know the scanner.

--

K.D.J.

Re: scanner recommendation

[deloptes]

Gregory Seidman wrote:

> It's a cheap workhorse. I haven't tried it with Linux but it doesn't
> require any special software or drivers on macOS, which makes me think it
> is entirely open standard.

and how do you operate it on mac? and why you are posting when you are not
sure it works under linux?

Re: scanner recommendation

[john doe]

On 4/18/2021 9:57 PM, Default User wrote:

Hi!

It may be time for a new scanner.

For years I have used a Visioneer OneTouch 7100 usb flatbed scanner on
various x86 computers running various versions of Debian and
simple-scan.

Currently:
Debian Unstable (updated, of course)
Linux 5.10.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.28-1 (2021-04-09) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Cinnamon 4.8.6-2
Dell Inspiron 3542 (laptop, circa 2015), 64-bit
Scanner software: simple-scan, from Debian Unstable repositories
Use case: light duty home use.

For years it worked "okay".  But it suddenly started producing scans
with a narrow pink stripe down the left side of the scan image
produced.

I tried installing xsane (too complicated for me), which I did not
configure at all.  And if I just clicked the scan button in xsane it
would "dim out" and then do nothing.  As a bonus, simple-scan then no
longer worked; upon clicking scan in simple-scan it would just do
nothing, with a rotating "activity busy" circle displaying
indefinitely.

So I uninstalled (purged) both xsane and simple-scan, re-installed
simple-scan, then rebooted.
Simple-scan now "works", but still produces the pink stripe down the
image left side, just as before.

: (

Note: the scanner is (about) 20 years, so no parts or service
available from Visioneer.

: (

So . . .
Can anyone recommend a good replacement scanner?

I am really hoping to get something that works "out of the box", with
little or no configuration, etc.



You could choose a scanner that is 'complete'ly supported from the Sane
(1) project

1)  www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#SCANNERS

--
John Doe

Re: scanner recommendation

[Gregory Seidman]

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/scanners/photo-scanner/canoscan-lide-110

It's a cheap workhorse. I haven't tried it with Linux but it doesn't
require any special software or drivers on macOS, which makes me think it
is entirely open standard.

--Gregory

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 03:57:30PM -0400, Default User wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> It may be time for a new scanner.
> 
> For years I have used a Visioneer OneTouch 7100 usb flatbed scanner on
> various x86 computers running various versions of Debian and
> simple-scan.
> 
> Currently:
> Debian Unstable (updated, of course)
> Linux 5.10.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.28-1 (2021-04-09) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> Cinnamon 4.8.6-2
> Dell Inspiron 3542 (laptop, circa 2015), 64-bit
> Scanner software: simple-scan, from Debian Unstable repositories
> Use case: light duty home use.
> 
> For years it worked "okay".  But it suddenly started producing scans
> with a narrow pink stripe down the left side of the scan image
> produced.
> 
> I tried installing xsane (too complicated for me), which I did not
> configure at all.  And if I just clicked the scan button in xsane it
> would "dim out" and then do nothing.  As a bonus, simple-scan then no
> longer worked; upon clicking scan in simple-scan it would just do
> nothing, with a rotating "activity busy" circle displaying
> indefinitely.
> 
> So I uninstalled (purged) both xsane and simple-scan, re-installed
> simple-scan, then rebooted.
> Simple-scan now "works", but still produces the pink stripe down the
> image left side, just as before.
> 
> : (
> 
> Note: the scanner is (about) 20 years, so no parts or service
> available from Visioneer.
> 
> : (
> 
> So . . .
> Can anyone recommend a good replacement scanner?
> 
> I am really hoping to get something that works "out of the box", with
> little or no configuration, etc.
> 
> 

scanner recommendation

[Default User]

Hi!

It may be time for a new scanner.

For years I have used a Visioneer OneTouch 7100 usb flatbed scanner on
various x86 computers running various versions of Debian and
simple-scan.

Currently:
Debian Unstable (updated, of course)
Linux 5.10.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.28-1 (2021-04-09) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Cinnamon 4.8.6-2
Dell Inspiron 3542 (laptop, circa 2015), 64-bit
Scanner software: simple-scan, from Debian Unstable repositories
Use case: light duty home use.

For years it worked "okay".  But it suddenly started producing scans
with a narrow pink stripe down the left side of the scan image
produced.

I tried installing xsane (too complicated for me), which I did not
configure at all.  And if I just clicked the scan button in xsane it
would "dim out" and then do nothing.  As a bonus, simple-scan then no
longer worked; upon clicking scan in simple-scan it would just do
nothing, with a rotating "activity busy" circle displaying
indefinitely.

So I uninstalled (purged) both xsane and simple-scan, re-installed
simple-scan, then rebooted.
Simple-scan now "works", but still produces the pink stripe down the
image left side, just as before.

: (

Note: the scanner is (about) 20 years, so no parts or service
available from Visioneer.

: (

So . . .
Can anyone recommend a good replacement scanner?

I am really hoping to get something that works "out of the box", with
little or no configuration, etc.

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Gary Dale]

On 2018-03-07 12:00 AM, Kamil Jońca wrote:

I am not sure if it is best group for this question but I am tired with
searching over numerous web pages :(

I need to buy device to scan and print which:
- can scan with sane
- can print from my debian box (strongly prefer without binary/closed
drivers[1], I'm not sure about hplip[2])
- no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]
- can be shared to Windows machines (with HP 1120MFP I could not do that)


Any suggestions?

KJ

[1] - like Brother, but I heard that they give source code for driver too?
[2] - hplip has a lot of bloat in his dependecies
[3] - sizes of my current hp 1120 MFP device


I have had good luck with Epson products over the decades. I've been 
using an Epson XP-820 for a few years now and it works quite well as a 
printer/scanner/fax except that I can't print directly to a CD/DVD 
(previous Epson printers allowed me to do this without problem so I'm 
not sure why the XP-820 doesn't). However I can copy the image to a USB 
stick and print directly on the printer so it's not a fatal flaw.

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 10/03/18 19:09, Kamil Jońca wrote:

kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:

Thanks for everybodys' replies.
Now I think about brother  DCP-1510E.

I bought it, and have mixed feelings.
With brother's drivers I can scan and print (and Windows 7 machine too
via samba) but scans are "over exposed"
Is it possible to control scan lamp power or ccd sensivity?
KJ


In XSane you can set the gamma, brightness, and contrast. If you open 
the preview scan you can use a preview scan to set these automatically. 
If you want to use the same settings for all scans, you can save them 
with the "M" button. For more, see Help /XSane doc.


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Kamil Jońca]

kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:

> kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:
>
>
> [...]
> Thanks for everybodys' replies.
> Now I think about brother  DCP-1510E.

I bought it, and have mixed feelings.
With brother's drivers I can scan and print (and Windows 7 machine too
via samba) but scans are "over exposed"
Is it possible to control scan lamp power or ccd sensivity?
KJ
-- 
http://stopstopnop.pl/stop_stopnop.pl_o_nas.html
... I see TOILET SEATS ...

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Dan Purgert]

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 08, 2018 07:53:36 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
>> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > 
>> > Bbut I'll mention that I'm partial to Canon, and now that they've come
>> > out with the line of printers that you can refill on board ink tanks,
>> > I wish I hadn't bought something else recently.  The one
>> > disappointment I see with those Canon printers (there are two that I'm
>> > aware of) is that they can'd do auto duplex printing.
> -->  ^t
>
>> 
>> Ink in general is a disappointment to me ;).  It dries out before I get
>> a chance to use it all.
>
> I guess you mean the ink dries in the printing head "holes"?  It's
> been a long time since I've had that problem--I guess the little bit
> of rubbing alcohol that I add to the ink helps prevent that problem.

Or in the cartridge itself.  Either way, it dried out.  Laser is the way
to go :)


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Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[albcares]

2018-03-08 14:22 GMT+01:00 :

> On Thursday, March 08, 2018 07:53:36 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
> > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Bbut I'll mention that I'm partial to Canon, and now that they've come
> > > out with the line of printers that you can refill on board ink tanks,
> > > I wish I hadn't bought something else recently.  The one
> > > disappointment I see with those Canon printers (there are two that I'm
> > > aware of) is that they can'd do auto duplex printing.
> -->  ^t
>
> >
> > Ink in general is a disappointment to me ;).  It dries out before I get
> > a chance to use it all.
>
> I guess you mean the ink dries in the printing head "holes"?  It's been a
> long
> time since I've had that problem--I guess the little bit of rubbing alcohol
> that I add to the ink helps prevent that problem.
>
> In the past, when I've had the problem, I've done things like put the print
> head into a tray with a shallow batch of rubbing alcohol (so it just wets
> the
> print head "holes").  After soaking for a while, I wipe the head dry
> (gently)
> (just to avoid dripping ink anywhere) with something lint free, reinsert in
> the printer, and then run a cleaning cycle.
>
> If that doesn't work, I'll repeat.
>
>
> Hi. - I'm thinking You'd better  look for what kind doesn't run! You may
check OpenPrinting lists.
By now  for instanceI'm with a B/W laser multifunction by samsung, scx4100
series (quite old). After some troubles for fitting it, I feel well and
it's good and cheap, and overall you can forget of sending a print anytime
to keep the cartridge awake!

best regards
-- 
linux user #521635

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[rhkramer]

On Thursday, March 08, 2018 07:53:36 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > Bbut I'll mention that I'm partial to Canon, and now that they've come
> > out with the line of printers that you can refill on board ink tanks,
> > I wish I hadn't bought something else recently.  The one
> > disappointment I see with those Canon printers (there are two that I'm
> > aware of) is that they can'd do auto duplex printing.
-->  ^t

> 
> Ink in general is a disappointment to me ;).  It dries out before I get
> a chance to use it all.

I guess you mean the ink dries in the printing head "holes"?  It's been a long 
time since I've had that problem--I guess the little bit of rubbing alcohol 
that I add to the ink helps prevent that problem.

In the past, when I've had the problem, I've done things like put the print 
head into a tray with a shallow batch of rubbing alcohol (so it just wets the 
print head "holes").  After soaking for a while, I wipe the head dry (gently) 
(just to avoid dripping ink anywhere) with something lint free, reinsert in 
the printer, and then run a cleaning cycle.

If that doesn't work, I'll repeat.

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Dan Purgert]

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 07, 2018 07:07:20 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
>> Kamil Jońca wrote:
>> Good luck there.  Brother, HP, everyone that makes quality hardware has
>> a binary driver.
>> 
>> > - no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]
>> 
>> That's a bit on the small side, but you could probably find something.
>
> +1--your size limititations make it rather tough.
>
> Bbut I'll mention that I'm partial to Canon, and now that they've come
> out with the line of printers that you can refill on board ink tanks,
> I wish I hadn't bought something else recently.  The one
> disappointment I see with those Canon printers (there are two that I'm
> aware of) is that they can'd do auto duplex printing.

Ink in general is a disappointment to me ;).  It dries out before I get
a chance to use it all.

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Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 07/03/18 18:00, Kamil Jońca wrote:

I am not sure if it is best group for this question but I am tired with
searching over numerous web pages :(
I need to buy device to scan and print which:
- can scan with sane
- can print from my debian box (strongly prefer without binary/closed
drivers[1], I'm not sure about hplip[2])
- no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]
- can be shared to Windows machines (with HP 1120MFP I could not do that)
Any suggestions?
KJ
[1] - like Brother, but I heard that they give source code for driver too?
[2] - hplip has a lot of bloat in his dependecies
[3] - sizes of my current hp 1120 MFP device


I like my Brother MFC-L2740DW. Duplex greyscale laser with sheet feeder. 
A little deeper but not as wide as your current printer. Printing uses 
only open source drivers (with the foomatic-db-compressed-ppds package). 
Scanning needs brscan4-0.4.4-2.amd64.deb. I use XSane. On WiFi network. 
Other user reports that it works with Mac. What is this "Windows"?


CUPS settings:
http://192.168.1.11/ipp
Name: Brother_MFC-L2740DW
Description: Brother MFC-L2740DW
Driver: Generic PCL 6/PCL XL Printer Foomatic/pxlcolor (recommended)

From CUPS page:
Description:Brother MFC-L2740DW
Location:   
Driver:	Generic PCL 6/PCL XL Printer Foomatic/pxlcolor (recommended) 
(color, 2-sided printing)

Connection: http://192.168.1.11/ipp
Defaults:	job-sheets=none, none media=iso_a4_210x297mm 
sides=two-sided-long-edge


Sane config:
brsaneconfig4 -a name=Brother_MFC-L2740DW model=MFC-L2740DW ip=192.168.1.11

Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Kamil Jońca]

kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:


[...]
Thanks for everybodys' replies.
Now I think about brother  DCP-1510E.

We'll see ...
KJ


-- 
http://wolnelektury.pl/wesprzyj/teraz/
When the government bureau's remedies don't match your problem, you modify
the problem, not the remedy.

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Erwan David]

Le 03/07/18 à 21:19, Erwan David a écrit :
> Le 03/07/18 à 06:00, Kamil Jońca a écrit :
>> I am not sure if it is best group for this question but I am tired with
>> searching over numerous web pages :(
>>
>> I need to buy device to scan and print which:
>> - can scan with sane
>> - can print from my debian box (strongly prefer without binary/closed
>> drivers[1], I'm not sure about hplip[2])
>> - no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]
>> - can be shared to Windows machines (with HP 1120MFP I could not do that)
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> KJ
>>
>> [1] - like Brother, but I heard that they give source code for driver too?
>> [2] - hplip has a lot of bloat in his dependecies
>> [3] - sizes of my current hp 1120 MFP device
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I can not test for windows, but otherwise I have a HP LaserJet Pro MFP
> m125nw which could work, except it needs a proprietary plugin to hplip.
>
> Since it is a network printer, I do not see why it could not be used by
> windows and debian at the same time.
>
I should add that it is a B laser printer. An avantage of laser is
that ink does not dry...

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Erwan David]

Le 03/07/18 à 06:00, Kamil Jońca a écrit :
> I am not sure if it is best group for this question but I am tired with
> searching over numerous web pages :(
>
> I need to buy device to scan and print which:
> - can scan with sane
> - can print from my debian box (strongly prefer without binary/closed
> drivers[1], I'm not sure about hplip[2])
> - no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]
> - can be shared to Windows machines (with HP 1120MFP I could not do that)
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> KJ
>
> [1] - like Brother, but I heard that they give source code for driver too?
> [2] - hplip has a lot of bloat in his dependecies
> [3] - sizes of my current hp 1120 MFP device
>
>
>
>

I can not test for windows, but otherwise I have a HP LaserJet Pro MFP
m125nw which could work, except it needs a proprietary plugin to hplip.

Since it is a network printer, I do not see why it could not be used by
windows and debian at the same time.

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Doug]

On 03/07/2018 02:37 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, March 07, 2018 07:07:20 AM Dan Purgert wrote:

Kamil Jońca wrote:
Good luck there.  Brother, HP, everyone that makes quality hardware has
a binary driver.


- no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]

That's a bit on the small side, but you could probably find something.

+1--your size limititations make it rather tough.

Bbut I'll mention that I'm partial to Canon, and now that they've come out
with the line of printers that you can refill on board ink tanks, I wish I
hadn't bought something else recently.  The one disappointment I see with
those Canon printers (there are two that I'm aware of) is that they can'd do
auto duplex printing.



If it ever is up to me, I would SHUN any printer with ink tanks! I do NOT
want to have to deal with liquid ink! I think that's the worst idea I have
ever seen!

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Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[rhkramer]

On Wednesday, March 07, 2018 07:07:20 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
> Kamil Jońca wrote:
> Good luck there.  Brother, HP, everyone that makes quality hardware has
> a binary driver.
> 
> > - no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]
> 
> That's a bit on the small side, but you could probably find something.

+1--your size limititations make it rather tough.

Bbut I'll mention that I'm partial to Canon, and now that they've come out 
with the line of printers that you can refill on board ink tanks, I wish I 
hadn't bought something else recently.  The one disappointment I see with 
those Canon printers (there are two that I'm aware of) is that they can'd do 
auto duplex printing.

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Celejar]

On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 12:07:20 - (UTC)
Dan Purgert  wrote:

> Kamil Jońca wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure if it is best group for this question but I am tired with
> > searching over numerous web pages :(

I understand, but do see this thread:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg00121.html

> I'd go for something from Brother.  Ideally, networkable (rather than
> needing to share via CUPS, etc.)

+1

My experience with my Brother HL-2280DW has been very good:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg00183.html

I'm pretty sure that this model has been superseded by newer ones, but
I have the impression that the situation is similar with those newer
models in the same or similar product families:

http://www.brother-usa.com/productpages/ataglance2.aspx?PG=4=43

> > I need to buy device to scan and print which:
> > - can scan with sane
> Last I looked, Brother can do this.  That being said, I'm using one of
> their "MFC" series, and just scan PDFs to a network share (this does
> mean, ofc that I lose out on OCR, but for what I scan, that's minor).

My HL-2280DW works fine with sane.

> > - can print from my debian box (strongly prefer without binary/closed
> > drivers[1], I'm not sure about hplip[2])
> 
> Good luck there.  Brother, HP, everyone that makes quality hardware has
> a binary driver.

I use Brother's binary drivers. The printer can actually be made to
work without them, albeit with missing functionality and some apparent
difference in output quality:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg00314.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg00448.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/msg00417.html

Celejar

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Doug]

On 03/07/2018 01:06 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

On 06/03/18 09:00 PM, Kamil Jońca wrote:


I am not sure if it is best group for this question but I am tired with
searching over numerous web pages :(

I need to buy device to scan and print which:
- can scan with sane
- can print from my debian box (strongly prefer without binary/closed
drivers[1], I'm not sure about hplip[2])
- no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]
- can be shared to Windows machines (with HP 1120MFP I could not do 
that)


Any suggestions?


I have an Epson WF-2760 which seems to do what you need.  It sits on 
our LAN; from my Debian box I can use it to scan using xsane, and 
after setting it up in CUPS it prints with no problems.  Dunno about 
Windows, but my wife's Macbook accesses it just fine too.


I also have an Epson. Mine is WP-4530. It prints in color, scans, copies 
(reducing and enlarging on request) and sends and receives faxes. It 
uses large ink cartridges, unlike another Epson
printer I bought which uses little tiny ink sources that hardly last at 
all, so research your Epson choice carefully. I think the WP-4530 is a 
really excellent machine for all those purposes, and
it works perfectly with SANE. However, you will probably have to go to 
Epson and download drivers for it. I also don't know if it is still 
available.


--doug

Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Charlie Gibbs]

On 06/03/18 09:00 PM, Kamil Jońca wrote:


I am not sure if it is best group for this question but I am tired with
searching over numerous web pages :(

I need to buy device to scan and print which:
- can scan with sane
- can print from my debian box (strongly prefer without binary/closed
drivers[1], I'm not sure about hplip[2])
- no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]
- can be shared to Windows machines (with HP 1120MFP I could not do that)

Any suggestions?


I have an Epson WF-2760 which seems to do what you need.  It sits on our 
LAN; from my Debian box I can use it to scan using xsane, and after 
setting it up in CUPS it prints with no problems.  Dunno about Windows, 
but my wife's Macbook accesses it just fine too.


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Re: Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Dan Purgert]

Kamil Jońca wrote:
>
> I am not sure if it is best group for this question but I am tired with
> searching over numerous web pages :(

I'd go for something from Brother.  Ideally, networkable (rather than
needing to share via CUPS, etc.)

>
> I need to buy device to scan and print which:
> - can scan with sane
Last I looked, Brother can do this.  That being said, I'm using one of
their "MFC" series, and just scan PDFs to a network share (this does
mean, ofc that I lose out on OCR, but for what I scan, that's minor).

> - can print from my debian box (strongly prefer without binary/closed
> drivers[1], I'm not sure about hplip[2])

Good luck there.  Brother, HP, everyone that makes quality hardware has
a binary driver.
> - no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]

That's a bit on the small side, but you could probably find something.
> - can be shared to Windows machines (with HP 1120MFP I could not do that)

Sounds like you might've missed a step then, since cups has been able to
share forever.

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Multifunction (printer + scanner) recommendation?

[Kamil Jońca]

I am not sure if it is best group for this question but I am tired with
searching over numerous web pages :(

I need to buy device to scan and print which:
- can scan with sane
- can print from my debian box (strongly prefer without binary/closed
drivers[1], I'm not sure about hplip[2])
- no bigger than ~ (H x D x W) 308 mm x 363 mm x 437 mm [3]
- can be shared to Windows machines (with HP 1120MFP I could not do that)


Any suggestions?

KJ

[1] - like Brother, but I heard that they give source code for driver too?
[2] - hplip has a lot of bloat in his dependecies
[3] - sizes of my current hp 1120 MFP device




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Re: On Access Virus Scanner Recommendation

[Holger Rauch]

Hi Berni

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Berni Elbourn wrote:

 
 Or look at it the other way round
 
 Linux is not vulnerable to windows virus. Note the careful wording
 ;-) So don't waste valuable server cpu cycles on-access scanning on
 a Linux server. 

The problem is that I can't rely on all client PCs having up-to-date
virus scanner software, so this measure would be some kind of safety
net.

Instead protect your Linux with things like
 rkhunter.

Thanks for that hint. I will take it into account.

 
 Also all your windows PCs already have to run on-access scanners
 anyway - right.

Yes, but one can never rely that all local virus scanner databases are
up-to-date. Some people might disable automatic updates...
(You can always have some kind of policy, but that's just a piece of
paper).
 
 So a virus should never get near the server anyway at least in theory...

Right, but theory is more often than not contradicted by practice... ;-)

 In practice virus do often get through simply because the virus
 profiles available for both server and clients PCs are always one
 step behind the crooks. 

Yes, exactly, that's what I'm worried about and that's the reason why
I want to add some kind of safety net to the central file server
since I don't want it to turn into some kind of central virus
distributor.

 Best you can do is have have regular full
 virus scans on the Windows PCs hard disks to fix once the anti-virus
 companies catch up.

Yes, I'm aware of that.

 
 You could be very sociable and scan the files at quiet times on the
 server and quarantine...clamav does a nice job at no cost. You can
 also use it as a quality check on your commercial scanner.

Yes, I know about clamav. Nevertheless, I'm still interested in
getting NOD32 to run on that server and that requires Dazuko. Since
there are quite a few Dazuko versions floating around on the net,
which one is recommended for Debian Lenny amd64?

Thanks  kind regards,

   Holger
   

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[Berni Elbourn]

Holger Rauch wrote:

Hi,

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Paul Johnson wrote:


Holger Rauch wrote:


I'm thinking about using NOD32 on a Debian system for on access virus
scanning (i.e. scan a file when it's created or its contents are
modified in some way).

Why, when it's so much easier to not allow connections from insecure
operating systems prone to virus infection to start with?


Because disallowing these connections (unfortunately) is not an option
since Windows clients are used in my company and they too need to be
able to both access and modify files on our file server.

What's even more interesting though is: Which is the right Dazuko
version to choose? There are several of them around.

Kind regards,

 Holger
 


Or look at it the other way round

Linux is not vulnerable to windows virus. Note the careful wording ;-) 
So don't waste valuable server cpu cycles on-access scanning on a Linux 
server. Instead protect your Linux with things like rkhunter.


Also all your windows PCs already have to run on-access scanners anyway 
- right.


So a virus should never get near the server anyway at least in theory...

In practice virus do often get through simply because the virus profiles 
available for both server and clients PCs are always one step behind the 
crooks. Best you can do is have have regular full virus scans on the 
Windows PCs hard disks to fix once the anti-virus companies catch up.


You could be very sociable and scan the files at quiet times on the 
server and quarantine...clamav does a nice job at no cost. You can also 
use it as a quality check on your commercial scanner.


Good luck,

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Re: On Access Virus Scanner Recommendation

[Holger Rauch]

Hi,

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Paul Johnson wrote:

 Holger Rauch wrote:
 
  I'm thinking about using NOD32 on a Debian system for on access virus
  scanning (i.e. scan a file when it's created or its contents are
  modified in some way).
 
 Why, when it's so much easier to not allow connections from insecure
 operating systems prone to virus infection to start with?

Because disallowing these connections (unfortunately) is not an option
since Windows clients are used in my company and they too need to be
able to both access and modify files on our file server.

What's even more interesting though is: Which is the right Dazuko
version to choose? There are several of them around.

Kind regards,

 Holger
 

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Re: On Access Virus Scanner Recommendation

[Paul Johnson]

Holger Rauch wrote:

 I'm thinking about using NOD32 on a Debian system for on access virus
 scanning (i.e. scan a file when it's created or its contents are
 modified in some way).

Why, when it's so much easier to not allow connections from insecure
operating systems prone to virus infection to start with?


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Re: On Access Virus Scanner Recommendation

[Holger Rauch]

Hi,

On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 [...]
 Why is that a problem? Do you have Windows clients accessing the system
 through NFS?

Not necessarily, but I'd like to be on the safe side. Furthermore,
there seem to be many Dazuko versions around:

- dazuko-source_2.3.3-1_all.deb
- dazuko-2.3.4.tar.gz
- dazuko-3.0.0-birthday.tar.gz
- dazuko-2.3.5-pre1.tar.gz
- dazukofs-3.1.1.tar.gz
- dazuko-2.3.7.tar.gz

So, which is the best one, especially when compiling the module for
a 64bit Linux kernel???

Thanks in advance  kind regards,

   Holger

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Re: On Access Virus Scanner Recommendation

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:26:12AM +0100, Holger Rauch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 
  [...]
  Why is that a problem? Do you have Windows clients accessing the system
  through NFS?
 
 Not necessarily, but I'd like to be on the safe side. 

On what safe side?

Can you give an example of a threat you wish to mitigate with such a
scan?

Are you aware of the overhead?

Are you aware of the potential threat that someone might trigger a
security hole in either the module or the (omnipotent) scanner by
reading a specially-crafted file?

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Re: On Access Virus Scanner Recommendation

[Holger Rauch]

Rehi,

please see my answers below.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

   [...]
   Why is that a problem? Do you have Windows clients accessing the system
   through NFS?
  
  Not necessarily, but I'd like to be on the safe side. 
 
 On what safe side?
 
 Can you give an example of a threat you wish to mitigate with such a
 scan?

A Windows client using WinSCP to a directory that's both NFS and CIFS
exported, perhaps? Furthermore, free NFS v3/v4 clients for Windows can
become available and then this threat can become real...

 
 Are you aware of the overhead?

No, can't judge it, to be honest.

 Are you aware of the potential threat that someone might trigger a
 security hole in either the module or the (omnipotent) scanner by
 reading a specially-crafted file?

Yes, but that can always be the problem, regardless of the underlying
file system.

Greetings,

  Holger
  

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On Access Virus Scanner Recommendation

[Holger Rauch]

Hi to everybody,

I'm thinking about using NOD32 on a Debian Lenny system for on
access virus scanning (i.e. scan a file when it's created and/or its
contents are modified in some way).

I'm aware that there's the Dazuko module, but allegedly it doesn't
seem to support NFSv3 or NFSv4 file systems since NFS uses socket
communication to write files not ordinary file system calls and
Dazuko can only intercept these.

So, my questions are:

- Which virus scanner capable of performing on acces scanning would
  you recommend for a central file server running Debian Lenny
  offering FTP, OpenAFS, NFSv4 and SSH/SCP access?
  
- Is Dazuko a recommended solution? If so, which version? (I ask this
  because there are several available by now)

- If not, what would be possible and practical alternatives for
  Dazuko and/or NOD32?
  
Thanks in advance for any hints  kind regards,
  
   Holger
   

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[Umarzuki Mochlis]

2009/11/24 Holger Rauch holger.ra...@empic.de

 Hi to everybody,

 I'm thinking about using NOD32 on a Debian Lenny system for on
 access virus scanning (i.e. scan a file when it's created and/or its
 contents are modified in some way).

 I'm aware that there's the Dazuko module, but allegedly it doesn't
 seem to support NFSv3 or NFSv4 file systems since NFS uses socket
 communication to write files not ordinary file system calls and
 Dazuko can only intercept these.

 So, my questions are:

 - Which virus scanner capable of performing on acces scanning would
  you recommend for a central file server running Debian Lenny
  offering FTP, OpenAFS, NFSv4 and SSH/SCP access?

 - Is Dazuko a recommended solution? If so, which version? (I ask this
  because there are several available by now)

 - If not, what would be possible and practical alternatives for
  Dazuko and/or NOD32?

 Thanks in advance for any hints  kind regards,


http://www.clamav.net/download/third-party-tools/3rdparty-fs/


   Holger

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Re: On Access Virus Scanner Recommendation

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:49:38PM +0100, Holger Rauch wrote:
 Hi to everybody,
 
 I'm thinking about using NOD32 on a Debian Lenny system for on
 access virus scanning (i.e. scan a file when it's created and/or its
 contents are modified in some way).
 
 I'm aware that there's the Dazuko module, but allegedly it doesn't
 seem to support NFSv3 or NFSv4 file systems since NFS uses socket
 communication to write files not ordinary file system calls and
 Dazuko can only intercept these.

Why is that a problem? Do you have Windows clients accessing the system
through NFS?


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On Access Virus Scanner Recommendation

[Holger Rauch]

Hi to everybody,

I'm thinking about using NOD32 on a Debian system for on access virus
scanning (i.e. scan a file when it's created or its contents are
modified in some way).

I'm aware that there's the Dazuko module, but allegedly it doesn't
seem to support NFSv3 or NFSv4 file systems since NFS uses socket
communication to write files not ordinary file system calls and
Dazuko can only handle these.

So, my questions are:

- Which virus scanner would you recommend for a central file server
  running Debian Lenny offering FTP, OpenAFS, NFSv4 and SSH/SCP access?
  
- Is Dazuko a recommended solution? If so, which version? (I ask this
  because there are several available by now)
  
- If not, what would be possible and practical alternatives for Dazuko
  and/or NOD32?
  
Thanks in advance for any hints  kind regards,

   Holger
   

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[Wu-Kung Sun]

I need a book scanner like the Plustek Optibook.  It scans to the edge
so there's no distortion in the image but plustek doesn't support
linux.   Anyone know of similar book scanners which do work with
Debian?

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Need Scanner Recommendation

[Thomas H. George]

My Epson Perfection 2400 Photo scanner has died and must be replaced.  
The Epson 4990 is too rich for my budget and the Epson 4490 is not on 
the Sane list of supported scanners?  Has anyone had success with the 
4490?  Are there better choices in the $100-200 range?


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Re: Need Scanner Recommendation

[Alan Ianson]

On Thu February 15 2007 20:27, Thomas H. George wrote:
 My Epson Perfection 2400 Photo scanner has died and must be replaced.
 The Epson 4990 is too rich for my budget and the Epson 4490 is not on
 the Sane list of supported scanners?  Has anyone had success with the
 4490?  Are there better choices in the $100-200 range?

I have an epson stylus photo rx500 that has worked well for me for printing 
documents. After reading your post I setup sane to work with gimp and I just 
scanned a flyer that was sitting on my desk, very impressive image.

That's the first thing I have ever scanned with it so I don't have much 
experience with it but I can tell you it works.. :)


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Scanner recommendation?

[Ishwar Rattan]

System is Debian derivative with kernel-2.6.7.
I am looking for a scanner (usb) that will
work under this system.

Any input will be appreciated.

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Re: Scanner recommendation?

[Adam Mercer]

On 31/08/05, Ishwar Rattan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 System is Debian derivative with kernel-2.6.7.
 I am looking for a scanner (usb) that will
 work under this system.
 
 Any input will be appreciated.

The sane project website has a list of supported scanners, give that a look

http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html

Cheers

Adam

Re: Scanner recommendation?

[Bruno Buys]

I have a hp psc1315 working flawlessly under debian sarge, both scanner 
and printer. Not very professional scanner, though, more like a home 
scanner.



Adam Mercer wrote:


On 31/08/05, Ishwar Rattan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


System is Debian derivative with kernel-2.6.7.
I am looking for a scanner (usb) that will
work under this system.

Any input will be appreciated.
   



The sane project website has a list of supported scanners, give that a look

http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html

Cheers

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Re: OT: Flatbed scanner recommendation?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 20 Nov 2003, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
[snip] 

 Anybody here have any recommendations?
 
 
 I have an Epson Perfection 1250 installed.
 Works like a charm with Debian -- provided you discovered to change the
 /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf file.
 I have described the install experience here:
 http://home.planet.nl/~woerk095/epson1250.html
 
[snip]

Epson Perfection 1650 works well too.

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Re: OT: Flatbed scanner recommendation?

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

On Thursday 20 November 2003 18:15, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 I have an Epson Perfection 1250 installed.

Thanks for all advices!

I've been looking at Epson, because they seemed Linux friendly, but when 
I start searching, it seems that has ended... 

There seems to be a lot of noise over Epson Perfection 1670...:
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ScaNners

Perhaps they had M$ coming over to tell them what they shouldn't 
do... :-( 

I'm not saying Epson is out of the question (though I find their use of 
technology that removes the final word of print-no-print from the user 
of printers objectionable), but I think this needs some attention.

Best,

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OT: Flatbed scanner recommendation?

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

Dear all,

Well, I guess many of you have been through this, so allthough it may be 
somewhat OT, I hope it can be enlightening.

My father needs a new flatbed scanner, something in the NOK 800 range 
(that's about USD or Euro 110). 

He has a workstation running Woody with some backports, so obviously, it 
has to work well with Debian. I've told him he needs to be a conscious 
consumer and stay away from the companies that have objectionable 
policies. 

I'd like to buy from a company that openly supports free software, who 
has at least assisted driver developers, resisted any DRM, and are 
known to be friendly.

I'm aware of the list at 
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
but that doesn't say anything about company policies. Something like the 
linuxprinting.org's Vendor Scorecard would be great (allthough that is 
also lacking. For example, Lexmark would be out of the question on the 
printer side with their DMCA lawsuit).

Anybody here have any recommendations?

He's been looking at a Canon, how's their history?

Cheers,

Kjetil
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Re: OT: Flatbed scanner recommendation?

[Craig H. Anderson]

I recently got an Epson Perfection 1660 Photo.  The cost for
a refurbished scanner was $89 including shipping from Epson. 

The backend developer has a page at
http://www.khk.net/sane/ 

The driver page is
http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-epson.5.html 

Take a look here also
http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/linux_e/lsd_e.html
Experimental gcc-3.x based Image Scan! for Linux Version 1.5.2 packages 
are now freely available for download. 

Kjetil Kjernsmo writes:
My father needs a new flatbed scanner, something in the NOK 800 range 
(that's about USD or Euro 110).  

He has a workstation running Woody with some backports, so obviously, it 
has to work well with Debian. I've told him he needs to be a conscious 
consumer and stay away from the companies that have objectionable 
policies.  

I'd like to buy from a company that openly supports free software, who 
has at least assisted driver developers, resisted any DRM, and are 
known to be friendly. 

I'm aware of the list at 
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
but that doesn't say anything about company policies. Something like the 
linuxprinting.org's Vendor Scorecard would be great (allthough that is 
also lacking. For example, Lexmark would be out of the question on the 
printer side with their DMCA lawsuit). 

Anybody here have any recommendations? 

He's been looking at a Canon, how's their history? 

Cheers, 

Kjetil


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Re: OT: Flatbed scanner recommendation?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
Dear all,

Well, I guess many of you have been through this, so allthough it may be 
somewhat OT, I hope it can be enlightening.

My father needs a new flatbed scanner, something in the NOK 800 range 
(that's about USD or Euro 110). 

He has a workstation running Woody with some backports, so obviously, it 
has to work well with Debian. I've told him he needs to be a conscious 
consumer and stay away from the companies that have objectionable 
policies. 

I'd like to buy from a company that openly supports free software, who 
has at least assisted driver developers, resisted any DRM, and are 
known to be friendly.

I'm aware of the list at 
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
but that doesn't say anything about company policies. Something like the 
linuxprinting.org's Vendor Scorecard would be great (allthough that is 
also lacking. For example, Lexmark would be out of the question on the 
printer side with their DMCA lawsuit).

Anybody here have any recommendations?


I have an Epson Perfection 1250 installed.
Works like a charm with Debian -- provided you discovered to change the 
/etc/sane.d/plustek.conf file.
I have described the install experience here:
http://home.planet.nl/~woerk095/epson1250.html

I thought at the time it was a very good description. I no longer think 
so now.

To install Debian support for the scanner all you have to do is:
apt-get install xsane
and that gets you everything. Like I said: not the knowledge that it is 
the plustek.conf file in /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf
Running diff -b on the changes I made to that I get this:

52c52,54
 [usb]
---
 [usb] 0x04B8 0x010F
 #[usb]
 #device /dev/usbscanner0
133c135,136
 device auto
---
 device /dev/usb/scanner0
 #device auto
Also I have this in my /etc/modules for the scanner:

options scanner vendor=0x04b8 product=0x010f

and I have the scanner USB driver loaded in my super duper Backstreet 
Ruby 2.4.22 kernel. But that is not needed because Debian will pull 
libusb in which will do without that driver.

As far as operation: it is the same complaint always: the thing comes 
with Windoze instructions and buttons: 4 buttons in the front of the 
machine that have no function except for M$.
Also it does not have a power-off button but an ac-dc converter that you 
plug in.

Other than that it is faultless: runs like a charm, but slow of course, 
it is a low-end scanner.

Hope this helps.

Hugo.


He's been looking at a Canon, how's their history?

Cheers,

Kjetil


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