Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread gene heskett
On 1/9/24 03:15, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: You ruined my day :-) It was not my fault. Send complaints to the people who convened as "High Sierra Group" in 1986. Something similar to IBM's kludgiest relic of the early 1960s has appeared in linux? The unixoid

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Nicolas George
Bret Busby (12024-01-09): > Whilst, as I previously made the point, this is all off-topic for a Debian > operating system users mailing list, one (and, only one) of the applications > of version numbers as part of file descriptors, with (in the case of > VAX/VMS) up to the last seven versions of a

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Bret Busby wrote: > Whilst, as I previously made the point, this is all off-topic for a Debian > operating system users mailing list But i found a premium excuse in the debian-cd and debian-live ISOs. :o) > the last seven versions of a file, being retained, was a > useful tool for software

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/1/24 16:02, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: The idea that we need version numbers embedded in filenames involuntarily may be "natural" to somebody. I have never seen any version other than ";1" (and ISOs which simply ignore the specs about file names). It's a

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > You ruined my day :-) It was not my fault. Send complaints to the people who convened as "High Sierra Group" in 1986. > Something similar to IBM's kludgiest relic of the early 1960s has appeared > in linux? The unixoid community added System Use Protocol and

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-08 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, 11:38 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Bret Busby wrote: > > > .; > > Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > > IBM's MVS & its successors, most recently z/OS, have something > > similar called a GDG (or Generation Data Group). > > The principle made it into ISO 9660 specifications. > > To

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-08 Thread Niall O'Reilly
On 8 Jan 2024, at 9:17, Bret Busby wrote: > But, apart from the functionality that I have not seen in any other operating > system, of using an extra file descriptor of version number, so the whole > filename would be something like > .; > (I am not sure whether that syntax is correct - I have

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-08 Thread Curt
On 2024-01-07, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > >> Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed. >> ^^^ > > Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct? Nothing sucks like a VAX! > All best, as ever, > > Andy

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-08 Thread gene heskett
On 1/7/24 19:39, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, 4:51 PM Charles Curley > wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" mailto:amaca...@einval.com>> wrote: > > Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed. > >   

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-08 Thread gene heskett
On 1/7/24 17:51, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed. ^^^ Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct? Oh, come on! Just because Gene doesn't like

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-08 Thread Mark Fletcher
Is it supposed to be installed by the net-installer? There does not seem > to be any man pages other than the bog std stuff. When I found the > /etc/systemd/timesyncd I immediately asked the system for man timesyncd, > got this: > gene@coyote:/etc$ man timesyncd > No manual entr

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Bret Busby wrote: > > .; Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > IBM's MVS & its successors, most recently z/OS, have something > similar called a GDG (or Generation Data Group). The principle made it into ISO 9660 specifications. To make this thread relevant for Debian, let's assume that somebody asked

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-08 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024, at 09:17, Bret Busby wrote: > But, apart from the functionality that I have not seen in any other > operating system, of using an extra file descriptor of version number, > so the whole filename would be something like > .; IBM's MVS & its successors, most recently z/OS,

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 8/1/24 08:44, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-01-07 at 19:20, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, 4:51 PM Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct? Oh, come on! Just because

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Charles Kroeger
> Quit using Google search. Use DuckDuckGo. Use StartPage instead, aka ixquick.com -- System Information GTK 3.24.39 / GLib 2.78.3 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 6.6.9-amd64 (x86_64)

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:02:25 +0700 Max Nikulin wrote: > Isn't it /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf, not /etc/systemd/timesyncd? It > might be a reason why systemd-timesyncd did not follow configuration. It is indeed /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf. However, there is also /etc/systemd/timesyncd.

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Max Nikulin
manpages (as noted in a message above earlier in the thread). Just to avoid possible confusion. Installing of the manpages package will not make man pages for all debian packages available locally. E.g. systemd-timesyncd(8) is shipped in the systemd-timesyncd package. It is great that https

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/01/2024 02:51, gene heskett wrote: When I found the /etc/systemd/timesyncd I immediately asked the system for man timesyncd, got this: gene@coyote:/etc$ man timesyncd No manual entry for timesyncd Isn't it /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf, not /etc/systemd/timesyncd? It might be a reason

VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-07 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-01-07 at 19:20, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, 4:51 PM Charles Curley > wrote: > >> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 + >> >> "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >>> Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct? >> >> Oh, come on! Just because Gene doesn't like

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, 4:51 PM Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 + > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > > Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed. > > > ^^^ > > > > Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct? > > Oh, come

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed. > > ^^^ > > Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct? Oh, come on! Just because Gene doesn't like certain ancient Digital Equipment

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi Gene, Am 07.01.2024 um 20:51 schrieb gene heskett: On 1/7/24 10:48, Max Nikulin wrote: ... systemd-timesyncd is a NTP-client, not a server. It is shipped with man pages and works out of the box (of course, if network is properly configured). Is it supposed to be installed by the net

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
d stuff. When I found the > /etc/systemd/timesyncd I immediately asked the system for man timesyncd, got > this: > gene@coyote:/etc$ man timesyncd > No manual entry for timesyncd > > > What package contains the manpages for a bookworm amd64 install I expect to > do anything

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread gene heskett
On 1/7/24 11:24, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: Lately, everytime I go anywhere near google or a gmail link I get attacked by a virus that calls itself norton antivirus. Delete all your Firefox caches and upgrade Firefox. That phishing malware has nothing to do with Google or Norton. You

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread gene heskett
malware you have on your machines. systemd-timesyncd is a NTP-client, not a server. It is shipped with man pages and works out of the box (of course, if network is properly configured). Is it supposed to be installed by the net-installer? There does not seem to be any man pages other than the bog

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > Lately, everytime I go anywhere near google or a gmail link I get > attacked by a virus that calls itself norton antivirus. Delete all your Firefox caches and upgrade Firefox. That phishing malware has nothing to do with Google or Norton. You acquired it by visiting an infected

systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Max Nikulin
. systemd-timesyncd is a NTP-client, not a server. It is shipped with man pages and works out of the box (of course, if network is properly configured).

Re: systemd-timesyncd et ntpdate

2016-11-25 Thread Eric Degenetais
ntpdate est obsolète et pourrait disparaître dans > des distributions. > > Je suis passé comme la plupart d'entre nous sous systemd. > Celui-ci lance systemd-timesyncd. Mais ce dernier, contrairement à > ntpdate, reste en tâche de fond et est donc un remplacement à ntpd, et > ce ma

systemd-timesyncd et ntpdate

2016-11-25 Thread Alain Rpnpif
des distributions. Je suis passé comme la plupart d'entre nous sous systemd. Celui-ci lance systemd-timesyncd. Mais ce dernier, contrairement à ntpdate, reste en tâche de fond et est donc un remplacement à ntpd, et ce malgré la présence simultanée de ntpdate. Trouvez-vous normal que, sans qu'on