Re: When to reboot after dist-upgrade?

2021-05-03 Thread Rick Thomas
I use the following little script. If it produces output, then a reboot is desirable. #!/bin/bash -p set -x PATH=/usr/bin:/bin lsof +c0 -w | grep ' DEL *REG *[^0 ]' | egrep -v \ '(/var/lib/gdm3|/usr/share/mime|/home/[^/]*)/(.cache|.config|.local)' What it does is look for library (and

Re: Debian statistics about the contributing entities?

2021-05-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 01 mai 21, 14:57:28, Marco Möller wrote: > Hello, > Do we have for Debian some statistics about who (companies, institutions, > universities, private volunteers, ...) are contributing to Debian, i.e. as > package maintainers, admins, maybe Debian specific code programmers, and > alike? I

Re: Debian statistics about the contributing entities?

2021-05-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 01 mai 21, 10:49:01, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 01 May 2021 08:57:28 Marco Möller wrote: > > > Hello, > > Do we have for Debian some statistics about who (companies, > > institutions, universities, private volunteers, ...) are contributing > > to Debian, i.e. as package maintainers,

Re: When to reboot after dist-upgrade?

2021-05-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 02 mai 21, 22:42:28, riveravaldez wrote: > Hi, sorry if this is not the place to ask (and in that case please > point me in the proper direction). It's definitely on topic here ;) > I'm trying to distinguish when a system reboot is an absolute need > and when it is absolutely safe to

Re: [solved!!!] Multichannel audio playback

2021-05-03 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina writes: > Rodolfo Medina writes: > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 10:39:19AM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > After learning, some months ago, thanks to listers' help, how to live record into a multi channel audio file, I was wondering about the reverse problem: now I

OT Reading brainwaves [was: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?]

2021-05-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 01:46:26AM +0200, Ángel wrote: > On 2021-05-01 at 09:28 +0200, deloptes wrote: > > Some state their brainwaves are being influenced by whatever (video, > > tv, wireless) It could be true, but there is no evidence and the > > probability of this being true is very low. > >

Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread Mart van de Wege
I have the following configured to back up my laptop to my file server: root@galahad:~# cat /etc/cron.d/backup MAILTO=m...@vdwege.eu #00 04 * * * root /usr/sbin/btrbk --verbose --format=long run Note: it is currently disabled. The only other places I have anything mentioning btrbk in /etc is

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread Mart van de Wege
Mart van de Wege writes: > And yet I find this in /var/log/btrbk.log: > > 2017-03-12T20:16:28+0100 startup v0.24.0 - - - - # btrbk command line client, > version 0.24.0 > Wrong logline copy/pasted, it should be this one: 2021-05-03T00:00:03+0200 startup v0.27.1 - - - # btrbk command line

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 09:07:26AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: > I have the following configured to back up my laptop to my file server: > > root@galahad:~# cat /etc/cron.d/backup > MAILTO=m...@vdwege.eu > #00 04 * * * root /usr/sbin/btrbk --verbose --format=long run > > Note: it is

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread Dan Ritter
David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 May 2021 at 11:23:51 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 01 mai 21, 08:31:04, Joe wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 17:25:20 -0400 > > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > > > > > viewing material because it's about ten years old. But when we > > > > > inevitably

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> There: now your smart-ass TV is a monitor again. At least until they start using a cell-connection for Internet access (which would seem only natural in the world of TVs, which historically got their programs over the air) :-( Stefan

RE: Ben alors là ! Vla t'y pas qu'on peut acheter du matos sans OS chez Lenovo !

2021-05-03 Thread mathieu.rossi
Bonsoir, Surprise pour moi. Les Dell que j'achète (portables pro) coûtent plus cher que les autres, mais tiennent dans la durée. J'en ai un qui à 14 ans, un autre 8 ans et ils marchent toujours: bien entendu plus sous Windows, trop faibles, mais en tant que serveurs sous Linux ils sont

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread Mart van de Wege
Stefan Monnier writes: >> root@galahad:~# grep btrbk /etc/ -rl > > Have you `grep`d in `/var/` as well? > [ E.g. `/var/spool/crontabs` ] > Yep, nothing there, aside from the usual suspects (apt & dpkg files). >> And yet I find this in /var/log/btrbk.log: >> >> 2017-03-12T20:16:28+0100 startup

Re: Ben alors là ! Vla t'y pas qu'on peut acheter du matos sans OS chez Lenovo !

2021-05-03 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 03/05/21 à 17:24, NoSpam a écrit : > Tous ces matériels achetés avec Ubuntu préinstallé et jamais eu de > plantage. Faudrait il incriminé Debian ? Je ne pense pas, et ça confirme ce que je disais, il vaut mieux acheter du matériel avec linux préinstallé (n'importe quelle distrib, même si

HTML syntax.

2021-05-03 Thread peter
Hi again, Is there an editor which checks that HTML opening and closing tags are paired and nested properly. An opening tag without matching close, a closing tag without matching open and crossed tags should be flagged by line number or color. Preferably an editor with minimal overhead of

Re: Ben alors là ! Vla t'y pas qu'on peut acheter du matos sans OS chez Lenovo !

2021-05-03 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Daniel Caillibaud a écrit : > Le 03/05/21 à 17:24, NoSpam a écrit : >> Tous ces matériels achetés avec Ubuntu préinstallé et jamais eu de >> plantage. Faudrait il incriminé Debian ? > > Je ne pense pas, et ça confirme ce que je disais, il vaut mieux acheter du > matériel avec linux >

Re: Ben alors là ! Vla t'y pas qu'on peut acheter du matos sans OS chez Lenovo !

2021-05-03 Thread NoSpam
Le 03/05/2021 à 18:09, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : [...] Il y a surtout un autre point qu'il ne faut pas perdre de vue. Certains fabricants (Dell en tête et c'est en autres pour cela que je n'en veux plus) achètent des machines en marque blanche sur lesquelles ils collent leur logo. Il y a un

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread Mart van de Wege
Stefan Monnier writes: > Mart van de Wege [2021-05-03 20:11:25] wrote: >> Stefan Monnier writes: root@galahad:~# grep btrbk /etc/ -rl >>> >>> Have you `grep`d in `/var/` as well? >>> [ E.g. `/var/spool/crontabs` ] >>> >> Yep, nothing there, aside from the usual suspects (apt & dpkg files).

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread Joe
On Mon, 3 May 2021 21:03:51 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Mon 03 May 2021 at 15:47:07 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > It doesn't seem sensible to put a cell-connection into each TV > > > when they're all immobile. OTOH cars and pets go places. > > > > > > And is 20GB of data per day a

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread Brian
On Mon 03 May 2021 at 15:47:07 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > It doesn't seem sensible to put a cell-connection into each TV > > when they're all immobile. OTOH cars and pets go places. > > > > And is 20GB of data per day a "reasonable usage" on a mobile data plan? > > Whereas 1TB per month on

Re: Trying to debug alsa xruns

2021-05-03 Thread Michael Lange
On Sun, 2 May 2021 17:09:25 +0200 Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > I have been experiencing audio xruns when playing back audio or video > files for a while now and thought I might try to get some debugging > information to find out what's wrong (hardware fault? driver bug? > something else?).

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 02:37:36PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Mart van de Wege [2021-05-03 20:11:25] wrote: [...] > > Not that I can see. I am going to see what patching btrbk to log PPID > > shows up tonight. > > My usual "trick" is to log a full `ps --forest -ef`. > [ Instead of patching,

Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 08:50:52PM +0200, deloptes wrote: [...] > HTML is not strict XML - so it depends on the definition of the page (my > knowledge is based on HTML2-4, but should apply to recent 5) > So it means that you can omit closing tag (check w3c.org) > > Regarding checking XML -

Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-03 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > xmllint has an --html option for that. That said... you sure that it will give a warning if tag is not closed? Cause I do not think so. In fact the --html option seems to correct those missing tags. All together it's a good tool, but I do not know how it applies to

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 May 2021 at 18:32:13 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 12:24:48PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > There: now your smart-ass TV is a monitor again. > > > > At least until they start using a cell-connection for Internet access > > (which would seem only natural

[OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It doesn't seem sensible to put a cell-connection into each TV > when they're all immobile. OTOH cars and pets go places. > > And is 20GB of data per day a "reasonable usage" on a mobile data plan? > Whereas 1TB per month on a fixed line is quite normal. These arguments seem stuck in the

Re: Zoom.

2021-05-03 Thread peter
From: Tom Dial Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:04:45 -0600 > The link above hints that you may have a broken install. You might want > to remove (most of) it by deleting the /opt/zoom directory. Removing Zoom with aptitude also "disappeared" linphone. After removing Zoom, aptitude showed

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> root@galahad:~# grep btrbk /etc/ -rl Have you `grep`d in `/var/` as well? [ E.g. `/var/spool/crontabs` ] > And yet I find this in /var/log/btrbk.log: > > 2017-03-12T20:16:28+0100 startup v0.24.0 - - - - # btrbk command line client, > version 0.24.0 Any other mention of activity around that

Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-03 Thread deloptes
pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi again, > > Is there an editor which checks that HTML opening and closing tags are > paired and nested properly.  An opening tag without matching close, a > closing tag without matching open and crossed tags should be flagged > by line number or color. > >

Re: Ben alors là ! Vla t'y pas qu'on peut acheter du matos sans OS chez Lenovo !

2021-05-03 Thread NoSpam
Le 03/05/2021 à 16:11, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit : Le 27/04/21 à 07:15, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : Pour information, http://materiel.net/ et http://pcw.fr/ vendent des ordinateurs sans OS, ou bien avec une distribution Linux. Voir aussi https://bons-vendeurs-ordinateurs.info/ C'est

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 May 2021 at 09:07:26 (+0200), Mart van de Wege wrote: > I have the following configured to back up my laptop to my file server: > > root@galahad:~# cat /etc/cron.d/backup > MAILTO=m...@vdwege.eu > #00 04 * * * root /usr/sbin/btrbk --verbose --format=long run > > Note: it is currently

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 May 2021 at 11:23:51 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 01 mai 21, 08:31:04, Joe wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 17:25:20 -0400 > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > > > viewing material because it's about ten years old. But when we > > > > inevitably replace it and have no choice about

Re: Ben alors là ! Vla t'y pas qu'on peut acheter du matos sans OS chez Lenovo !

2021-05-03 Thread Erwann Le Bras
Le 28/04/2021 à 08:49, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : [...] Lorsque j'ai essayé Dell, plus de 50% du parc est passé en SAV sous garantie pour des problèmes de cartes-mères, de batteries et de chargeurs et de cartes mémoire pas compatibles mais presque... La joie de la qualité à pas cher. Quant à mon

Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Is there an editor which checks that HTML opening and closing tags are > paired and nested properly. An opening tag without matching close, a > closing tag without matching open and crossed tags should be flagged > by line number or color. Since Emacs's built-in `nxml-mode` does that, and

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread Mart van de Wege
David Wright writes: > > Just guessing. You set the cron job to initiate a backup at 04:00. > Perhaps there's something configured in your /etc/btrbk/btrbk.conf > that says check for retention by day/week/month/year rather than > 04:00/day/week/month/year. The former check has to made at

Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-03 Thread Felix Miata
peter composed on 2021-05-03 08:44 (UTC-0700): > Is there an editor which checks that HTML opening and closing tags are > paired and nested properly. An opening tag without matching close, a > closing tag without matching open and crossed tags should be flagged > by line number or color. >

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 12:24:48PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > There: now your smart-ass TV is a monitor again. > > At least until they start using a cell-connection for Internet access > (which would seem only natural in the world of TVs, which historically > got their programs over the

Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-03 Thread mick crane
On 2021-05-03 16:44, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: Hi again, Is there an editor which checks that HTML opening and closing tags are paired and nested properly. An opening tag without matching close, a closing tag without matching open and crossed tags should be flagged by line number or color.

how to prevent sleeping when sitting at the login screen?

2021-05-03 Thread Christian Groessler
Hi, where is the setting where one can disable sleeping when the computer is at the login prompt? I found the setting for my user, and for root, but not for "login screen". I'm using gdm3. regards, chris

Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-03 Thread Dan Ritter
pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi again, > > Is there an editor which checks that HTML opening and closing tags are > paired and nested properly. An opening tag without matching close, a > closing tag without matching open and crossed tags should be flagged > by line number or color. > >

Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 12:26:54PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Is there an editor which checks that HTML opening and closing tags are > > paired and nested properly. An opening tag without matching close, a > > closing tag without matching open and crossed tags should be flagged > > by

[OFFTOPIC] Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> > There: now your smart-ass TV is a monitor again. >> At least until they start using a cell-connection for Internet access >> (which would seem only natural in the world of TVs, which historically >> got their programs over the air) :-( > Cars do that already. Why shouldn't TVs? Or pet

Re: how to prevent sleeping when sitting at the login screen?

2021-05-03 Thread Floris Renaud
Christian Groessler schreef op 2021-05-03 19:19: Hi, where is the setting where one can disable sleeping when the computer is at the login prompt? I found the setting for my user, and for root, but not for "login screen". I'm using gdm3. regards, chris You can find these options in

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
Mart van de Wege [2021-05-03 20:11:25] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >>> root@galahad:~# grep btrbk /etc/ -rl >> >> Have you `grep`d in `/var/` as well? >> [ E.g. `/var/spool/crontabs` ] >> > Yep, nothing there, aside from the usual suspects (apt & dpkg files). > >>> And yet I find this in

[resolu] Re: disque dur externe se coupe tout seul

2021-05-03 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Le jeudi 29 avril 2021 à 20:48 +0200, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Je viens de changer un de mes disques de sauvegardes par un modèle plus gros > dans un boitier Advance 3.5" connecté en USB3 avec alim externe. > Ma sauvegarde est faite par rsync et mon problème est que le disque

Re: Ben alors là ! Vla t'y pas qu'on peut acheter du matos sans OS chez Lenovo !

2021-05-03 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Le lundi 03 mai 2021 à 18:09 +0200, BERTRAND Joël a écrit : > Il y a surtout un autre point qu'il ne faut pas perdre de vue. > Certains > fabricants (Dell en tête et c'est en autres pour cela que je n'en veux > plus) achètent des machines en marque blanche sur lesquelles ils collent > leur

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread Mart van de Wege
writes: > On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 09:07:26AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: >> I have the following configured to back up my laptop to my file server: >> >> root@galahad:~# cat /etc/cron.d/backup >> MAILTO=m...@vdwege.eu >> #00 04 * * * root /usr/sbin/btrbk --verbose --format=long run >> >>

Re: [solved!!!] Multichannel audio playback

2021-05-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 03 mai 21, 06:53:50, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Do you think the same purpose could be achieved as well with a simple device > like this: > > >

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 01 mai 21, 08:31:04, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 17:25:20 -0400 > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > viewing material because it's about ten years old. But when we > > > inevitably replace it and have no choice about accepting a 'smart' > > > TV, > > > > There are still normal TVs

FW: bits from the Release Team: bullseye status update

2021-05-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
- Forwarded message from Paul Gevers - Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 21:41:38 +0200 From: Paul Gevers To: Debian Devel Announce Subject: bits from the Release Team: bullseye status update User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 Mail-Followup-To:

Trend Micro & FireEye Clients Info

2021-05-03 Thread Virginia Porterfield
Good Day I was doing research on your organization and I want to know if customers using Trend Micro & FireEye would be of any interest to your current Sales and Marketing efforts. We provide these data-set across North America, EMEA, APAC and Latin America. Other Related

Re: When to reboot after dist-upgrade?

2021-05-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 09:16:40AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Me, I basically only reboot in 2 cases: > - the power went out > > > Stefan There are two difficult problems in computing: naming things, cache invalidation, and off-by-one errors.

wikipedia surfraw elvi needs an update

2021-05-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
Too many wikipedia failures using surfraw that never happened before. Where that elvi goes generates a couple pages of error message most of the time on wikipedia searches. If I use duckduckgo elvi, I can find a wikipedia page listed in duckduckgo's search results which matches the search I could

Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-05-03 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Monday, 3 May 2021 at 11:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Get a computer monitor instead. In ten years most (if not all) > traditional TV stations will likely have switched to streaming via the > internet anyway ;) When I went to order a 60" monitor for a meeting room at work, I found that the

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 09:54:24AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: > writes: > > > On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 09:07:26AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: > >> I have the following configured to back up my laptop to my file server: > >> > >> root@galahad:~# cat /etc/cron.d/backup > >>

Re: Ghost cronjob

2021-05-03 Thread Mart van de Wege
writes: > Now I do :) > > Well, no clue. But it's a script, so you could just insert some > debugging stuff (like, for example, reporting its parent PID > when it's started again)? So you might catch the ghosts parent? > > Cheers > - t > Neat idea. btrbk is pure Perl, in which I happened to be

Re: Ben alors là ! Vla t'y pas qu'on peut acheter du matos sans OS chez Lenovo !

2021-05-03 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 27/04/21 à 07:15, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : > Pour information, http://materiel.net/ et http://pcw.fr/ vendent des > ordinateurs sans OS, ou bien avec une distribution Linux. > > Voir aussi https://bons-vendeurs-ordinateurs.info/ C'est plus prudent. Après avoir fait le tour des offres

Re: When to reboot after dist-upgrade?

2021-05-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I'm trying to distinguish when a system reboot is an absolute need > and when it is absolutely safe to keep the system running/working > after a `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`, once > I have already performed a complete restart of all needed services > through `sudo

Mais pourquoi systemd s'occupe de l'écran qu'on referme?

2021-05-03 Thread err404
Bonjour tout le monde j'ai installé Mate-Desktop sur un ordinateur, et j'ai réglé les paramètres d'économie d'énergie pour que quand je ferme l'écran de l'ordinateur: que ça vérouille l'écran ou à la limite qu'il ne se passe rien. mais lorsque je ferme l'écran, l'ordinateur passe en veille.