Re: android GUI sous linux

2023-07-30 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 30 juillet 2023 didier gaumet a écrit : > Et l'environnement Handy semblait être une customisation de Xfce Oui d'après cette vieille doc d'install https://lea-linux.org/documentations/Installer_HandyLinux Et comme ils disent "il vous suffit de supprimer les options d'accessibilité pour

Re: android GUI sous linux

2023-07-30 Thread michel.debian
Bonjour, C'est plus une debian customisée pour les debutants et les autres, qui ont un système stable et fiable dès l'installation. https://debian-facile.org/projets:iso-debian-facile Le 30/07/2023 à 11:26, didier gaumet a écrit : Le 30/07/2023 à 11:12, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] - Handy

Re: android GUI sous linux

2023-07-30 Thread didier gaumet
Le 30/07/2023 à 11:12, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] - Handy d'après ce que je comprends c'était le bureau d'Handylinux, qui n'existe plus mais dont Debian Facile semble plus ou moins la continuation(?). Debian Facile ne propose plus cet environnement, j'ai l'impression Et l'environnement

Re: android GUI sous linux

2023-07-30 Thread didier gaumet
Michel a probablement raison: si tu veux juste une borne d'accès internet dont toute l'activité passe par le navigateur, je suppose (j'y connais rien) qu'un kiosque de navigation convient Si cela ne te convient pas, il faut distinguer l'aspect android-like et senior-friendly (y a des

Re: android GUI sous linux

2023-07-30 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - De: "Michel Verdier" À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Envoyé: Samedi 29 Juillet 2023 21:37:10 Objet: Re: android GUI sous linux Le 29 juillet 2023 Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > Je suis à la recherche d'une interface de bureau sous Linu

Re: android GUI sous linux

2023-07-29 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 29 juillet 2023 Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > Je suis à la recherche d'une interface de bureau sous Linux > ayant des caractéristiques similaires à une tablette > android... Tout window manager ayant des icônes de bureau rentrent dans ça ou tu vois d'autres caractéristiques ? >

[OT] Re: Android email client that does bottom posting

2022-04-28 Thread didier gaumet
Le jeudi 28 avril 2022 à 12:41 +, Keith Bainbridge a écrit : > Good Evening All > > I top posted last night, in error.  Sorry > > I have asked the devs where the bottom posting setting has gone. Hello, (K9 Mail) Account Settings > Sending mail > Reply after quoted text

Re: Android mounten

2022-03-22 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 22-03-2022 om 00:16 schreef Paul van der Vlis: Hallo, Een klant heeft een vrij nieuwe telefoon met Android 8.0. Het overzetten van foto's ging tot nu toe prima, maar plots lukt het niet meer. Na het inprikken van de kabel krijgt hij een melding op zijn telefoon waarna hij de verbinding

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-02-05 Thread 황병희
John Hasler writes: > Is there a simple way to run Android apps under Debian such as an > emulator? My Starlink terminal is arriving next week and it would be > convenient to be able to run the Starlink app. However, I do not have > either an IOS or an Android device. Another way is +money.

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-30 Thread John Hasler
Bijan writes: > Keep in mind the xapk/apk I saw online only had the arm64 shared > libraries. The one I have has x86 and x86_64 libraries as well as the arm ones. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-30 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-01-30 21:54, John Hasler wrote: I have a copy of the app. I'm not going to open a Google Play account. Keep in mind the xapk/apk I saw online only had the arm64 shared libraries. So you'll either need to get an apk with the x86/x86_64/amd64 shared libraries or add arm64 support to

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-30 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-01-30 21:54, John Hasler wrote: I have a copy of the app. I'm not going to open a Google Play account. Oh ok, you can run the emulator without app store or without signing in and use adb install the apk to the emulator, in case anbox doesn't work. Bijan

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-30 Thread John Hasler
Bijan writes: > Hi, don't know how far you got with anbox, I don't have it running yet due to a dbus problem. That should clear out as soon as I reboot but I'm not ready to do that because I'm in the midst of a project with a couple of dozen documents and tabs open. > This will launch the

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-30 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-01-29 13:29, John Hasler wrote: Is there a simple way to run Android apps under Debian such as an emulator? My Starlink terminal is arriving next week and it would be convenient to be able to run the Starlink app. However, I do not have either an IOS or an Android device. Hi, don't

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-30 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-29, John Hasler wrote: > I never intend to install any app other than the Starlink one. I'm > willing to trust it as long as what I get is in fact exactly what SpaceX > distributes: if they are going to spy on me they will have better > opportunities than that. I guess I'm asking if

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread John Hasler
Bijan writes: > Seems the Starlink router has a web interface: I know that. It evidently does not do everything the app does. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread Ash Joubert
On 30/01/2022 11:39, Bijan Soleymani wrote: I think the reason it is signed by Google is that the app uses Play app signing, where google signs the app on their servers on your behalf. That way if you lose your private key, you can change it on your end, without breaking app upgrades. Play

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread John Hasler
I downloaded it from apkmirror.com and got the same numbers you did plus "Verified using v4 scheme (APK Signature Scheme v4): false", "Verified for SourceStamp: true", some "Source Stamp Signer" results, and the same META-INF warnings. Looks ok, I guess. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-01-29 13:29, John Hasler wrote: Is there a simple way to run Android apps under Debian such as an emulator? My Starlink terminal is arriving next week and it would be convenient to be able to run the Starlink app. However, I do not have either an IOS or an Android device. Just to go

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-01-29 17:57, Bijan Soleymani wrote:     Now, find the .obb file (usually named as “com.x.obb”) within the file and copy it into the location: /sdcard/storage/emulated/0/Android/obb/.     Lastly, install the .apk file. Within a few minutes, you would be able to run the

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-01-29 17:38, John Hasler wrote: Bijan writes: I don't know if they modify the apks they host but as far as I know the original apk (from the play store) will be signed by the app publisher/writer. So if they haven't removed that you can just verify the signature is from the

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-01-29 17:25, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On 2022-01-29 15:38, John Hasler wrote: Apkpure has the Starlink app but as I had never heard of them (No reason to, not having an Android phone) I didn't download it immediately.  Are they reliable? I don't know if they modify the apks they host

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread John Hasler
Bijan writes: > I don't know if they modify the apks they host but as far as I know > the original apk (from the play store) will be signed by the app > publisher/writer. So if they haven't removed that you can just verify > the signature is from the publisher, etc. Apkpure says that apps

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On 2022-01-29 15:38, John Hasler wrote: local10 writes: First, identify the app you want to install, then download it from apkpure ( https://apkpure.com/ ) or similar sites. Apkpure has the Starlink app but as I had never heard of them (No reason to, not having an Android phone) I didn't

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread John Hasler
I never intend to install any app other than the Starlink one. I'm willing to trust it as long as what I get is in fact exactly what SpaceX distributes: if they are going to spy on me they will have better opportunities than that. I guess I'm asking if Apkpure can be trusted to send me exactly

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread local10
Jan 29, 2022, 21:33 by loca...@tutanota.com: > apkpure has been around for several years, draw any conclusion you want from > that. Google Play also isn't particularly reliable, they've hosted and > continue to host plenty of mal/spy/crap/ad/-ware aps, so just because an app > is hosted on

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread local10
Jan 29, 2022, 20:38 by j...@sugarbit.com: > Apkpure has the Starlink app but as I had never heard of them (No reason > to, not having an Android phone) I didn't download it immediately. Are > they reliable? > apkpure has been around for several years, draw any conclusion you want from that.

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 29 ian 22, 14:38:50, John Hasler wrote: > local10 writes: > > First, identify the app you want to install, then download it from > > apkpure ( https://apkpure.com/ ) or similar sites. > > Apkpure has the Starlink app but as I had never heard of them (No reason > to, not having an Android

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread John Hasler
local10 writes: > First, identify the app you want to install, then download it from > apkpure ( https://apkpure.com/ ) or similar sites. Apkpure has the Starlink app but as I had never heard of them (No reason to, not having an Android phone) I didn't download it immediately. Are they reliable?

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread local10
Jan 29, 2022, 19:07 by j...@sugarbit.com: > Thank you both. Now to get a copy of the ("free") app without opening a > Google > Play account... > First, identify the app you want to install, then download it from apkpure ( https://apkpure.com/ ) or similar sites. That, of course, leads to some

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread Alexis Grigoriou
On Sat, 2022-01-29 at 13:07 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Thank you both. Now to get a copy of the ("free") app without > opening a Google > Play account... Everything nowadays "needs" an app... I hate it.

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread John Hasler
Thank you both. Now to get a copy of the ("free") app without opening a Google Play account... -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread didier gaumet
Le samedi 29 janvier 2022 à 12:29 -0600, John Hasler a écrit : > Is there a simple way to run Android apps under Debian such as an > emulator?  My Starlink terminal is arriving next week and it would be > convenient to be able to run the Starlink app.  However, I do not > have > either an IOS

Re: Android apps on Debian

2022-01-29 Thread local10
Jan 29, 2022, 18:29 by j...@sugarbit.com: > Is there a simple way to run Android apps under Debian such as an > emulator? My Starlink terminal is arriving next week and it would be > convenient to be able to run the Starlink app. However, I do not have > either an IOS or an Android device. >

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-08 Thread Brian
On Mon 08 Jan 2018 at 06:59:06 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/08/2018 04:52 AM, Curt wrote: > > On 2018-01-08, SDA wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 12:25:50AM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Samuel

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
> ... where Linux (as an OS--yes, I see you coming from here) We usually call it GNU/Linux, Stefan

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/08/2018 04:52 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-01-08, SDA wrote: On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 12:25:50AM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Samuel wrote: could you add a support for wiko I have a wiko lenny 4 plus Sure!

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-08 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Monday, 8 Jan 2018 at 10:52, Curt wrote: > I was going to say a while back in yet another tangential digression > that the trend in personal computing (outside of the work environment, > at least) is toward mobile devices (notably smartphones) where Linux (as > an OS--yes, I see you coming

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-08 Thread Curt
On 2018-01-08, SDA wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 12:25:50AM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Samuel wrote: >> > could you add a support for wiko >> > I have a wiko lenny 4 plus >> >> Sure! Probably a small job.

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 02:35:02AM +0100, arne wrote: Debian should run on the Gemini PDA, an Android handhold device. In dual boot. It is not ready yet though. Should be ready this month. This is a very interesting device (and not a joke as other commenters might have thought!) for the

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-07 Thread Ben Oliver
On 18-01-08 02:35:02, arne wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 19:32:25 -0500 SDA wrote: On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 12:25:50AM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Samuel wrote: > > could you add a support for wiko > > I have a

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-07 Thread arne
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 19:32:25 -0500 SDA wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 12:25:50AM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Samuel wrote: > > > could you add a support for wiko > > > I have a wiko lenny 4 plus > > > >

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-07 Thread SDA
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 12:25:50AM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Samuel wrote: > > could you add a support for wiko > > I have a wiko lenny 4 plus > > Sure! Probably a small job. I'll submit a patch tomorrow to port > debian to android. >

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-02 Thread deloptes
Anders Andersson wrote: > Sure! Probably a small job. I'll submit a patch tomorrow to port > debian to android. hahaha, great comment! don't forget to add "irony off" at the end in the spirit of this: I would love to test your patch (irony off) regards

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-02 Thread Anders Andersson
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Samuel wrote: > could you add a support for wiko > I have a wiko lenny 4 plus Sure! Probably a small job. I'll submit a patch tomorrow to port debian to android.

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2018-01-02 Thread Samuel
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Re: Android Studio and AVDs

2017-09-05 Thread paul . wallrabe
Same issue here. I literally tried every suggested fix on stack overflow and it is not possible to use hardware acclaration on Debian Stretch. KVM is installed and emulator -accel-check is returning accel: 0 KVM (version 12) is installed and usable. accel But somehow Android Studio does not

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-02-07 Thread RLewis
Gary Dale wrote: > On 03/02/17 04:52 PM, RLewis wrote: >> Gary Dale wrote: >> >>> On 02/02/17 08:03 AM, RLewis wrote: Hi Gary -- Gary Dale wrote: > On 28/01/17 09:08 AM, RLewis wrote: >> Hello Ken and Gary -- >> >> ken wrote: >> >>> On 01/24/2017 02:38

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-02-06 Thread Gary Dale
On 03/02/17 04:52 PM, RLewis wrote: Gary Dale wrote: On 02/02/17 08:03 AM, RLewis wrote: Hi Gary -- Gary Dale wrote: On 28/01/17 09:08 AM, RLewis wrote: Hello Ken and Gary -- ken wrote: On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme problems

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-02-03 Thread RLewis
Gary Dale wrote: > On 02/02/17 08:03 AM, RLewis wrote: >> Hi Gary -- >> >> Gary Dale wrote: >> >>> On 28/01/17 09:08 AM, RLewis wrote: Hello Ken and Gary -- ken wrote: > On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote: >> I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-02-02 Thread Gary Dale
On 02/02/17 08:03 AM, RLewis wrote: Hi Gary -- Gary Dale wrote: On 28/01/17 09:08 AM, RLewis wrote: Hello Ken and Gary -- ken wrote: On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme problems accessing my Samsung S5 phone from my Plasma5

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-02-02 Thread Darac Marjal
On 02/02/17 20:38, ken wrote: > Just a quick tip for using Software Data Cable: When you fire it up > on your android, you'll get a screen helpfully telling you the ftp > command to run on the other end... but the command they give isn't > right... well, maybe it is for Windows, I don't know.

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-02-02 Thread ken
On 01/26/2017 11:42 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 25/01/17 01:27 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: On 01/25/2017 12:58 PM, ken wrote: On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme problems accessing my Samsung S5 phone from my Plasma5 desktop. When I plug the

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-02-02 Thread RLewis
Hi Gary -- Gary Dale wrote: > On 28/01/17 09:08 AM, RLewis wrote: >> Hello Ken and Gary -- >> >> ken wrote: >> >>> On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme problems accessing >> my Samsung S5 phone from my Plasma5 desktop.

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-02-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/01/17 09:08 AM, RLewis wrote: Hello Ken and Gary -- ken wrote: On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme problems accessing my Samsung S5 phone from my Plasma5 desktop. When I plug the phone in, I get the notification with 2 suggested

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-01-28 Thread RLewis
Hello Ken and Gary -- ken wrote: > On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote: >> I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme problems accessing my >> Samsung S5 phone from my Plasma5 desktop. >> >> When I plug the phone in, I get the notification with 2 suggested >> actions. They both read

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-01-26 Thread deloptes
Gary Dale wrote: > the MTP is an open specification that has been around since 2008 and > Google is heavily involved with it. Have you tried jmtpfs? regards

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-01-26 Thread Gary Dale
On 25/01/17 01:27 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: On 01/25/2017 12:58 PM, ken wrote: On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme problems accessing my Samsung S5 phone from my Plasma5 desktop. When I plug the phone in, I get the notification with 2

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-01-25 Thread Tony Baldwin
On 01/25/2017 12:58 PM, ken wrote: On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme problems accessing my Samsung S5 phone from my Plasma5 desktop. When I plug the phone in, I get the notification with 2 suggested actions. They both read "Open with

Re: Android phone access in Dolphin does not work

2017-01-25 Thread ken
On 01/24/2017 02:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running stretch/AMD64 and I'm having extreme problems accessing my Samsung S5 phone from my Plasma5 desktop. When I plug the phone in, I get the notification with 2 suggested actions. They both read "Open with File Manager" but the first one opens

Re: Android emulator

2016-03-12 Thread Rastko
Eclipse on Windows was something of a usable disaster, which I can't say for Android Studio, which is both a disk, CPU and memory hog. It apparently needs a lot of config to work. As far as emulator goes, I had to ditch the official emulator (rebranded QEMU), simply because I don't have hardware

Re: Android emulator

2016-02-27 Thread David Christensen
On 02/26/2016 09:03 PM, Peter Easthope wrote: Suppose a user needs one or a few Android apps but is not particularly interested in owning an Android device. Is installation of Android SDK to a small laptop and app usage there feasible? Or not worth the distraction and better to buy a tablet or

Re: Android emulator

2016-02-27 Thread Siard
Reco wrote: > Luckily alternatives are exist. More important is that it's free > software alternatives. > > First one is http://android-x86.org. It's somewhat outdated Android > build for x86-64, ready to be placed in any virtual machine of your > choice. The installation and running needed apps

Re: Android emulator

2016-02-27 Thread Reco
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 23:03:47 -0600 "Peter Easthope" wrote: > https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools indiates  > that Android SDK is a rather complex beast. > > Suppose a user needs one or a few Android apps  > but is not particularly interested in owning an  > Android device.  

Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

2015-09-27 Thread Marcus Dean Adams
To whom it may concern: Has there been any movement on this "mobile Debian" movement? Tried Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 7 at one point, and although it had a decent UI, it was poorly fleshed out. Would love to have a regular copy of Debian that is touch friendly to install on mobile devices so I

Re: android connection

2014-07-28 Thread Johann Spies
Install Airdroid on your Android device and connect to it using your web browser if you are on the same network segment. Regards Johann

Re: android connection

2014-07-17 Thread Esther Carillo
On 2014-07-12, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: I don't know anything to android but I have to connect an android device to a computer. I run a smbd server on my desktop and ES File Explorer app on my phone. Scanning my network with the app detects the Samba share and I

Re: android connection

2014-07-17 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Esther Carillo ecarillo1...@gmail.com writes: On 2014-07-12, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: I don't know anything to android but I have to connect an android device to a computer. I run a smbd server on my desktop and ES File Explorer app on my phone. Scanning my

Re: android connection

2014-07-13 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Sunday 13 July 2014 00.26:00 aminos wrote: Nautilus should work fine . Just be sure to put your device as a /Media device(MTP)/ or a /Camera (PTP)/. On 07/12/2014 11:06 PM, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I don't know anything to

Re: android connection

2014-07-12 Thread aminos
Nautilus should work fine . Just be sure to put your device as a /Media device(MTP)/ or a /Camera (PTP)/. On 07/12/2014 11:06 PM, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I don't know anything to android but I have to connect an android device to a

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-11-01 Thread Stephen Allen
To the OP - Yes Android isn't open (most of it is) the drivers for radio modem and video display for example aren't neither are the Google Apps ie Gmail, Playstore etc. There is a team working on a pure Open version called Replicant. Wired magazine recently had a writeup that one interested

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-11-01 Thread ken
On 10/31/2013 03:36 PM Neal Murphy wrote: On Thursday, October 31, 2013 02:56:21 PM ken wrote: On 10/31/2013 02:02 PM Beco wrote: On 31 October 2013 13:12, ken geb...@mousecar.com mailto:geb...@mousecar.com wrote: Alex, As you can see (from this long conversation), there are a

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-11-01 Thread ken
On 10/31/2013 03:51 PM Doug wrote: On 10/31/2013 02:56 PM, ken wrote: On 10/31/2013 02:02 PM Beco wrote: On 31 October 2013 13:12, ken geb...@mousecar.com mailto:geb...@mousecar.com wrote: Alex, When you buy a phone with android on it, you don't have root access

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-11-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 31 October 2013 21:26:05 Curt wrote: On 2013-10-31, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: I may be wrong, but I seem to remember seeing somewhere recently that it is illegal in the United States to jailbreak a phone. (I don't know how they'd catch you, or what the penalty would

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-11-01 Thread ken
On 10/31/2013 05:26 PM Slavko wrote: Hi, Dňa Thu, 31 Oct 2013 15:51:31 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net napísal: I may be wrong, but I seem to remember seeing somewhere recently that it is illegal in the United States to jailbreak a phone. (I don't know how they'd catch you, or what the

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-11-01 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:20:23 -0400 ken geb...@mousecar.com napísal: what you want with it, including jailbreaking it. But doing so would more than likely invalidate any warrantee and support agreement that came with the phone. I am not lawyer too, but my latest knowledge is, that this

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-11-01 Thread John Hasler
ken writes: ...you bought it, it's yours, so you can do what you want with it, including jailbreaking it. This is true, but if the manufacturer has used anti-circumvention technology to protect the firmware you might be violating the DMCA anti-circumvention provisions. You would not be

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-11-01 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 07:20:23AM -0400, ken wrote: Many years ago-- well, between ten and twenty, I believe-- there was legislation which allowed people to install any kind of phones they wanted in their home or business. Prior to this ATT would permit only its own phones and phone

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-11-01 Thread John Hasler
Carl Fink writes: DMCA (the Digital Millennium Copyright Act) supercedes that law and makes it illegal again. *Only* if the manufacturer has installed anti-circumvention technology. If they have made no attempt to prevent reading out the firmware the DMCA does not apply. I also don't think

RE: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-11-01 Thread LOwens
-Original Message- From: ken [mailto:geb...@mousecar.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 4:20 AM To: Doug Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ) On 10/31/2013 03:51 PM Doug wrote: On 10/31/2013 02:56 PM, ken wrote: On 10/31/2013 02:02 PM Beco wrote

Re: Re : Re: ANDROID

2013-10-31 Thread honeyshell
Mais ta hache,c'est un modèle libre ?

Re: Re : Re: ANDROID

2013-10-31 Thread François Boisson
Le Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:21:22 +0100 honeyshell honeysh...@honeyshell.com a écrit: Mais ta hache,c'est un modèle libre ? OpenSource en tout cas et en partie oui: je peux la désassembler, la vendre, la donner, et je crois que j'ai un modèle stanbdard donc je dois pouvoir la reproduire. Donc oui

Re: ANDROID

2013-10-31 Thread Reco
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 07:21:26PM -0400, Celejar wrote: GNU are free to express their option about 'freeness' of Debian. GNU are free to make their distribution based on Debian suited to their Okay, and I am free to express my opinion about FSF's stance on freeness and Debian. taste.

Re: ANDROID

2013-10-31 Thread ken
On 10/30/2013 08:35 AM Charlie wrote: On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 07:40:27 -0400 Celejar cele...@gmail.com sent this: The point here is that the FSF, who you consider the right kind of nuts, *discourages* you from using Debian. Celejar Not me. That might be your

Re: ANDROID

2013-10-31 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:05:49 +0400 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 07:21:26PM -0400, Celejar wrote: GNU are free to express their option about 'freeness' of Debian. GNU are free to make their distribution based on Debian suited to their Okay, and I am free to

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-10-31 Thread ken
On 10/29/2013 10:56 AM alex.pad...@laposte.net wrote: Hello to all, I shall want to buy a SMARTPHONE with a free O.S (GNU). Many of my friends say to me that ANDROID is a free system, it is LINUX! What do you think about it? Does it exist a SMARTPHONE with a system DEBIAN GNU LINUX Thank you

Re: ANDROID

2013-10-31 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
alex.pad...@laposte.net, 29.10.2013: I shall want to buy a SMARTPHONE with a free O.S (GNU). Many of my friends say to me that ANDROID is a free system, it is LINUX! What do you think about it? Does it exist a SMARTPHONE with a system DEBIAN GNU LINUX Check out

Re: ANDROID

2013-10-31 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Andrew McGlashan, 30.10.2013: On 30/10/2013 2:40 AM, ken wrote: On 10/29/2013 10:56 AM alex.pad...@laposte.net wrote: You might want to look at openmoko.org and openmoko.com. These offer smartphones with GNU/Linux from the beginning. So of course you can get all the source code, develop

Re: ANDROID

2013-10-31 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
shawn wilson, 29.10.2013: I think the most open platform to date is the Pi - there are only certain parts of the processor that are kept under NDA. Not the most open, according to https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi (They list some alternatives too.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-10-31 Thread Beco
On 31 October 2013 13:12, ken geb...@mousecar.com wrote: Alex, As you can see (from this long conversation), there are a variety of interpretations of what free means and its value to the end user. Getting back to your original concerns, here are some observations I've made about android

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-10-31 Thread ken
On 10/31/2013 02:02 PM Beco wrote: On 31 October 2013 13:12, ken geb...@mousecar.com mailto:geb...@mousecar.com wrote: Alex, As you can see (from this long conversation), there are a variety of interpretations of what free means and its value to the end user. Getting back to

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-10-31 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 02:56:21 PM ken wrote: On 10/31/2013 02:02 PM Beco wrote: On 31 October 2013 13:12, ken geb...@mousecar.com mailto:geb...@mousecar.com wrote: Alex, As you can see (from this long conversation), there are a variety of interpretations of

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-10-31 Thread Doug
On 10/31/2013 02:56 PM, ken wrote: On 10/31/2013 02:02 PM Beco wrote: On 31 October 2013 13:12, ken geb...@mousecar.com mailto:geb...@mousecar.com wrote: Alex, As you can see (from this long conversation), there are a variety of interpretations of what free means and its value

Re: ANDROID

2013-10-31 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Wed, 2013-10-30 at 12:19 -0500, Conrad Nelson wrote: On 10/30/2013 08:10 AM, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 23:35:37 +1100 Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote: On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 07:40:27 -0400 Celejar cele...@gmail.com sent this: The point here is that the FSF, who

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-10-31 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-31, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: I may be wrong, but I seem to remember seeing somewhere recently that it is illegal in the United States to jailbreak a phone. (I don't know how they'd catch you, or what the penalty would be.) They'd stop listening to you. -- To

Re: ANDROID (back to the OQ)

2013-10-31 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Thu, 31 Oct 2013 15:51:31 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net napísal: I may be wrong, but I seem to remember seeing somewhere recently that it is illegal in the United States to jailbreak a phone. (I don't know how they'd catch you, or what the penalty would be.) Perhaps, because

Re: Re : Re: ANDROID

2013-10-30 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le mardi 29 octobre 2013 à 18:25, alex.pad...@laposte.net a écrit : C'est curieux pourquoi des personne sont choquées par l'espionnage de la NSA alorsq que dans leur SMARTPHONE ils ont un OS qui peut-etre un mouchard et/ou Big Brother. Grande question ! Mais malheureusement l'OS ne fait pas

Re: ANDROID

2013-10-30 Thread Haricophile
Le Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:25:22 +0100, alex.pad...@laposte.net a écrit : Merci pour le lien. C'est curieux pourquoi des personne sont choquées par l'espionnage de la NSA alorsq que dans leur SMARTPHONE ils ont un OS / un mouchard et/ou Big Brother. s/qui peut-etre/qui est/ Ce n'est pas une

Re: Re : Re: ANDROID

2013-10-30 Thread François Boisson
Le Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:25:22 +0100 alex.pad...@laposte.net a écrit: C'est curieux pourquoi des personne sont choquées par l'espionnage de la NSA alorsq que dans leur SMARTPHONE ils ont un OS qui peut-etre un mouchard et/ou Big Brother. C'est n'est pas parce qu'on peut faire quelque chose

Re: ANDROID

2013-10-30 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:59:10 +0400 Reco recovery...@gmail.com sent this: On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:25:06PM -0400, Doug wrote: I think these FSF guys are nuts! May be. But they are right kind of nuts in today's crazy world. They are definitely /not/ for freedom--they would, if they

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