Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[D. R. Evans]

D. R. Evans wrote on 08/07/2017 10:45 AM:
> Daniel Bareiro wrote on 08/07/2017 09:36 AM:
> 
>>>
>>> BUT enigmail won't run because it seems that the current update requires a
>>> version of gnupg that is more recent than the official version that is part 
>>> of
>>> the repositories :-(
>>
>> I don't remember having this issue. I think I just did "aptitude install
>> enigmail" and it installed only that package. So I assume that the
>> dependencies would already be satisfied with the other packages I had
>> installed.
>>
>> root@orion:~# aptitude show gnupg | grep Versión
>> Versión: 1.4.18-7+deb8u3
>>
> 
> Very strange. That's the same version I have installed, but after the official
> update of thunderbird and enigmail this morning, enigmail immediately
> complained on start-up that it needed a later version of gnupg. Idiotically, I
> didn't write down the number, but I think it was 1.5.something.
> 

OK, I just went through the process again. I brought jessie completely up to
date, including the thunderbird and enigmail apps, then tried to run 
thunderbird.

At that point, enigmail pops up a box that says that it requires gnupg 2.0.7
or newer (which is obviously later than the 1.4.18 offered by the official
repository). See image at:
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/6s3z6jy5ns3z9qd/gnupg1.png?dl=0

I then downgraded using the same sequence as before, which is how I am able to
send this e-mail.

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Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[D. R. Evans]

Daniel Bareiro wrote on 08/07/2017 09:36 AM:

>>
>> BUT enigmail won't run because it seems that the current update requires a
>> version of gnupg that is more recent than the official version that is part 
>> of
>> the repositories :-(
> 
> I don't remember having this issue. I think I just did "aptitude install
> enigmail" and it installed only that package. So I assume that the
> dependencies would already be satisfied with the other packages I had
> installed.
> 
> root@orion:~# aptitude show gnupg | grep Versión
> Versión: 1.4.18-7+deb8u3
> 

Very strange. That's the same version I have installed, but after the official
update of thunderbird and enigmail this morning, enigmail immediately
complained on start-up that it needed a later version of gnupg. Idiotically, I
didn't write down the number, but I think it was 1.5.something.

I guess that I need to do it all again and write down the number next time,
and then go immediately back to the current (working) installation.

I won't have time for that today, but maybe tomorrow.

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Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Doc.

On 07/08/17 10:05, D. R. Evans wrote:

> I have been away for a week, and this morning saw that enigmail had been
> updated in my absence, so I updated all the jessie updates offered me by the
> official repositories.
> 
> This updated thunderbird and enigmail, as expected.
> 
> BUT enigmail won't run because it seems that the current update requires a
> version of gnupg that is more recent than the official version that is part of
> the repositories :-(

I don't remember having this issue. I think I just did "aptitude install
enigmail" and it installed only that package. So I assume that the
dependencies would already be satisfied with the other packages I had
installed.

root@orion:~# aptitude show gnupg | grep Versión
Versión: 1.4.18-7+deb8u3


Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[D. R. Evans]

I have been away for a week, and this morning saw that enigmail had been
updated in my absence, so I updated all the jessie updates offered me by the
official repositories.

This updated thunderbird and enigmail, as expected.

BUT enigmail won't run because it seems that the current update requires a
version of gnupg that is more recent than the official version that is part of
the repositories :-(

So I downgraded using the suggested sequence:

>>> apt remove thunderbird icedove
>>> apt install thunderbird=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
>>> apt install thunderbird-l10n-nl=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
>>> apt install lightning=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
>>> apt install lightning-l10n-nl=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
>>> apt install icedove=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
>>> apt install enigmail=2:1.8.2-4~deb8u1
>>> apt -t jessie-backports install xul-ext-sogo-connector
>>>

Just wanted to mention this so that others won't be surprised if they hit the
same problem.

  Doc

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Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Jason.

On 25/07/17 21:54, Jason Wittlin-Cohen wrote:

> Sorry for the oversight.

No problem.

> I am actually running on Stretch, so I'm using
> Enigmail 1.9.7.  Perhaps someone can backport the version from Stretch
> to Jessie to resolve this issue.

It seems that it is already solved.

Thanks too, Frank, for your contribution. It seems that now it is
possible to install it without making the change in sources.list that
you had suggested.

Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Frank]

Op 30-07-17 om 04:52 schreef Daniel Bareiro:

Hi, Paul.

On 27/07/17 08:41, Paul van der Vlis wrote:


I just updated Thunderbird on Jessie. Support for the 45.x series has
ended, so starting with this update Debian is now following the 52.x
releases.



I've tried much, but it did not work. So I downgraded, this worked for me:

apt remove thunderbird icedove
apt install thunderbird=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
apt install thunderbird-l10n-nl=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
apt install lightning=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
apt install lightning-l10n-nl=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
apt install icedove=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
apt install enigmail=2:1.8.2-4~deb8u1
apt -t jessie-backports install xul-ext-sogo-connector

And you need some kind of pinning...


Thanks for your contribution.

I see that yesterday was published the DSA-3921-1 referring to the bug
869774 talking about Enigmail 1.9.8.1 to restore full compatibility.

But I still don't see the update available. Do you see it?


As I mentioned in another thread, this appears to be caused by the fact 
the new version of the package is no longer -amd64/-i386 but -all. 
Somehow, apt doesn't see it, unless you add another line to your 
sources.list. This seemed to do it here:


 deb [arch=all] http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main

Regards,
Frank

Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Paul.

On 27/07/17 08:41, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

>> I just updated Thunderbird on Jessie. Support for the 45.x series has
>> ended, so starting with this update Debian is now following the 52.x
>> releases.

> I've tried much, but it did not work. So I downgraded, this worked for me:
> 
> apt remove thunderbird icedove
> apt install thunderbird=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
> apt install thunderbird-l10n-nl=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
> apt install lightning=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
> apt install lightning-l10n-nl=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
> apt install icedove=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
> apt install enigmail=2:1.8.2-4~deb8u1
> apt -t jessie-backports install xul-ext-sogo-connector
> 
> And you need some kind of pinning...

Thanks for your contribution.

I see that yesterday was published the DSA-3921-1 referring to the bug
869774 talking about Enigmail 1.9.8.1 to restore full compatibility.

But I still don't see the update available. Do you see it?

Kind regards,
Daniel

Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 25-07-17 om 23:18 schreef Daniel Bareiro:
> Hi all!
> 
> I just updated Thunderbird on Jessie. Support for the 45.x series has
> ended, so starting with this update Debian is now following the 52.x
> releases.

I've tried much, but it did not work. So I downgraded, this worked for me:

apt remove thunderbird icedove
apt install thunderbird=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
apt install thunderbird-l10n-nl=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
apt install lightning=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
apt install lightning-l10n-nl=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
apt install icedove=1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1
apt install enigmail=2:1.8.2-4~deb8u1
apt -t jessie-backports install xul-ext-sogo-connector

And you need some kind of pinning...

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis



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Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Doc.

On 26/07/17 11:05, D. R. Evans wrote:

>> I just updated Thunderbird on Jessie. Support for the 45.x series has
>> ended, so starting with this update Debian is now following the 52.x
>> releases.
>>
>> But after the update, Enigmail stopped working. In fact, when I go to
>> (my email account) -> Settings-> OpenGPG security, none of the buttons
>> are working. Not even "OK" to accept the changes.
>>
>> Is someone going through this too?

> Having seen your post before I was presented a few minutes ago with the
> Thunderbird update, I've refrained from applying it.
> 
> Has anyone other than Daniel applied the jessie Thunderbird update? and, if
> so, did you also lose access to enigmail? (It seems strange that there hasn't
> been a whole chorus of people chiming in to warn about the Thunderbird 
> update.)

Yesterday I filled out a bug report for this issue:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=869745

There several others having confirmed this bug.

For now I have uninstalled the Debian package and installed the addon
from the official site, as rpr suggested. Everything worked again after
that.


Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, rpr.

On 26/07/17 07:20, rpr // wrote:

> According I see, the Debian Jessie package has the version 1.8.2 for
> Enigmail:
> 
> root@orion:~# aptitude show enigmail | grep Versión
> Versión: 2:1.8.2-4~deb8u1
> 
> But this version does not seem to be compatible with Thunderbird 52 [1].
> Enigmail 1.8.2 is compatible with Thunderbird 29.0 to 46.0. That's why
> it was running on the previous packaged version of Thunderbird 45.x.

> Daniel, if I were you I would try to uninstall the enigmail package and
> then add the newest version of Enigmail addon (v. 1.9.7) directly in
> Thunderbird (Tools > Add-ons > Browse all add-ons > find Enigmail > Add
> to Thunderbird).

Yes, that's what I decided to do. Thanks for the recommendation. Now
with Enigmail 1.9.7 I can see the signatures again and access the
encrypted emails.


Kind regards,
Daniel



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Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[D. R. Evans]

Daniel Bareiro wrote on 07/25/2017 03:18 PM:
> Hi all!
> 
> I just updated Thunderbird on Jessie. Support for the 45.x series has
> ended, so starting with this update Debian is now following the 52.x
> releases.
> 
> But after the update, Enigmail stopped working. In fact, when I go to
> (my email account) -> Settings-> OpenGPG security, none of the buttons
> are working. Not even "OK" to accept the changes.
> 
> Is someone going through this too?

Having seen your post before I was presented a few minutes ago with the
Thunderbird update, I've refrained from applying it.

Has anyone other than Daniel applied the jessie Thunderbird update? and, if
so, did you also lose access to enigmail? (It seems strange that there hasn't
been a whole chorus of people chiming in to warn about the Thunderbird update.)

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Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[rpr //]

On 26 July 2017 at 01:47, Daniel Bareiro  wrote:

>
> According I see, the Debian Jessie package has the version 1.8.2 for
> Enigmail:
>
> root@orion:~# aptitude show enigmail | grep Versión
> Versión: 2:1.8.2-4~deb8u1
>
> But this version does not seem to be compatible with Thunderbird 52 [1].
> Enigmail 1.8.2 is compatible with Thunderbird 29.0 to 46.0. That's why
> it was running on the previous packaged version of Thunderbird 45.x.
>
>
Daniel, if I were you I would try to uninstall the enigmail package and
then add the newest version of Enigmail addon (v. 1.9.7) directly in
Thunderbird (Tools > Add-ons > Browse all add-ons > find Enigmail > Add to
Thunderbird).

-- rpr.

Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Jason Wittlin-Cohen]

Sorry for the oversight.  I am actually running on Stretch, so I'm using
Enigmail 1.9.7.  Perhaps someone can backport the version from Stretch to
Jessie to resolve this issue.

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Daniel Bareiro 
wrote:

> Hi, Jason.
>
> Thanks for your reply. But please respond to the list so that we can all
> take advantage of the contribution.
>
> On 25/07/17 18:54, Jason Wittlin-Cohen wrote:
>
> > I'm not seeing the behavior you described with Thunderbird + Enigmail.
>
> Thats weird. Are you using Debian Jessie packages for both?
>
>
> Thanks again for your reply.
>
> Kind regards,
> Daniel
>
>

Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi again, Georgi.

On 25/07/17 20:21, Daniel Bareiro wrote:

 I'll try to sign this message because I have not used Enigmail for a
 long time.

>>> Thanks for trying this. I appreciate it. Did you manage to sign it?

>> Yes, I signed the message, you should be able to see my signature.

> Thanks for trying. Unfortunately I am not able to see your signature. I
> also don't see the signature from other emails sent by myself nor I'm
> able to open encrypted messages that I have received. Before the upgrade

According I see, the Debian Jessie package has the version 1.8.2 for
Enigmail:

root@orion:~# aptitude show enigmail | grep Versión
Versión: 2:1.8.2-4~deb8u1

But this version does not seem to be compatible with Thunderbird 52 [1].
Enigmail 1.8.2 is compatible with Thunderbird 29.0 to 46.0. That's why
it was running on the previous packaged version of Thunderbird 45.x.

So it looks like we have a problem here.

Kind regards,
Daniel

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https://addons.mozilla.org/es/thunderbird/addon/enigmail/versions/?page=1#version-1.8.2

Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Jason.

Thanks for your reply. But please respond to the list so that we can all
take advantage of the contribution.

On 25/07/17 18:54, Jason Wittlin-Cohen wrote:

> I'm not seeing the behavior you described with Thunderbird + Enigmail.

Thats weird. Are you using Debian Jessie packages for both?


Thanks again for your reply.

Kind regards,
Daniel

Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Georgi.

On 25/07/17 19:26, Georgi Naplatanov wrote:

>>> I'll try to sign this message because I have not used Enigmail for a
>>> long time.

>> Thanks for trying this. I appreciate it. Did you manage to sign it?

> Yes, I signed the message, you should be able to see my signature.

Thanks for trying. Unfortunately I am not able to see your signature. I
also don't see the signature from other emails sent by myself nor I'm
able to open encrypted messages that I have received. Before the upgrade
it worked without problems.

>> I'm not sure if this is some incompatibility between the Debian versions
>> for Thunderbird and Enigmail.

> I'm not sure either. I saw standard dialog box for crash report several
> times on my computer but I didn't see anything odd and therefor I didn't
> create bug report.

Yes, I've also filled the Thunderbird report dialog box every time
Thunderbird crashed. But I meant an incompatibility between Thunderbird
and Enignail for the issue I mentioned in this thread, considering it as
something independent of Thunderbird crashes.


Thanks for your time.

Kind regards,
Daniel

Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Georgi Naplatanov]

On 07/26/2017 01:05 AM, Daniel Bareiro wrote:
> 
> On 25/07/17 18:23, Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
> 
>>> I just updated Thunderbird on Jessie. Support for the 45.x series has
>>> ended, so starting with this update Debian is now following the 52.x
>>> releases.
>>>
>>> But after the update, Enigmail stopped working. In fact, when I go to
>>> (my email account) -> Settings-> OpenGPG security, none of the buttons
>>> are working. Not even "OK" to accept the changes.
>>>
>>> Is someone going through this too?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
> 
>> Hi Daniel,
> 
> Hi, Georgi.
> 
>> I'm not sure what happens with Thunderbird in Debian but I had crashes
>> almost daily with both - Jessie and Stretch and at the end I downloaded
>> latest version from mozilla.org.
> 
> Yes, I also experienced that behavior. Then the frequency of occurrence
> diminished, but in any case I continued observing this crashes.
> 
>> I'll try to sign this message because I have not used Enigmail for a
>> long time.
> 
> Thanks for trying this. I appreciate it. Did you manage to sign it?

Yes, I signed the message, you should be able to see my signature.

> I'm not sure if this is some incompatibility between the Debian versions
> for Thunderbird and Enigmail.

I'm not sure either. I saw standard dialog box for crash report several
times on my computer but I didn't see anything odd and therefor I didn't
create bug report.

Kind regards
Georgi




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Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Daniel Bareiro]

On 25/07/17 18:23, Georgi Naplatanov wrote:

>> I just updated Thunderbird on Jessie. Support for the 45.x series has
>> ended, so starting with this update Debian is now following the 52.x
>> releases.
>>
>> But after the update, Enigmail stopped working. In fact, when I go to
>> (my email account) -> Settings-> OpenGPG security, none of the buttons
>> are working. Not even "OK" to accept the changes.
>>
>> Is someone going through this too?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.

> Hi Daniel,

Hi, Georgi.

> I'm not sure what happens with Thunderbird in Debian but I had crashes
> almost daily with both - Jessie and Stretch and at the end I downloaded
> latest version from mozilla.org.

Yes, I also experienced that behavior. Then the frequency of occurrence
diminished, but in any case I continued observing this crashes.

> I'll try to sign this message because I have not used Enigmail for a
> long time.

Thanks for trying this. I appreciate it. Did you manage to sign it?

I'm not sure if this is some incompatibility between the Debian versions
for Thunderbird and Enigmail.


Kind regards,
Daniel

Re: Thunderbird 52.2.1 and Enigmail

[Georgi Naplatanov]

On 07/26/2017 12:18 AM, Daniel Bareiro wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I just updated Thunderbird on Jessie. Support for the 45.x series has
> ended, so starting with this update Debian is now following the 52.x
> releases.
> 
> But after the update, Enigmail stopped working. In fact, when I go to
> (my email account) -> Settings-> OpenGPG security, none of the buttons
> are working. Not even "OK" to accept the changes.
> 
> Is someone going through this too?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Daniel
> 


Hi Daniel,

I'm not sure what happens with Thunderbird in Debian but I had crashes
almost daily with both - Jessie and Stretch and at the end I downloaded
latest version from mozilla.org.

I'll try to sign this message because I have not used Enigmail for a
long time.

Kind regards
Georgi



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