Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, by hardcoding my GMX mail address in alpine-2.20/imap/src/c-client/smtp.c, i was able to prove that my workstation hostname in the MAIL FROM: argument is indeed the stumblestone which prevented SMTP success with gmx.net. Whew. Now i need to find out how to regularly configure the components

[SOLVED] Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, the trick is to go to the configuration item Customized Headers and to add a customized From: header. Like From: Full Name u...@example.com One can gets this instruction by pressing the help key ? on the item User Domain and following the here link in the third paragraph. By setting my

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Bob Bernstein
I suggest you join the alpine discussion list. The current developer pretty much lives there, and there is a nice group of subscribers. They talk about this kind of question all the time. https://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info -- I am not a loony. Why should I be

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): Hi, i wrote: I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line in ~/.pinerc: smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net David Wright wrote: I assume that you're telling me that this does not work, right? Yes. It

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: I can direct alpine unencrypted to port 30029 and see the same effect as with alpine's own encryption via /ssl/ or /tls/. I'm sorry if I appear to be thick but I get very little sense from see the same effect as with alpine's own encryption. I can't be certain

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Bob Bernstein wrote: I suggest you join the alpine discussion list. https://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info Will ask there after i managed to get version 2.20 running from source tarball. (Or after i encountered a showstopper.) Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): David Wright wrote: I can direct alpine unencrypted to port 30029 and see the same effect as with alpine's own encryption via /ssl/ or /tls/. I'm sorry if I appear to be thick but I get very little sense from see the same effect as with

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, OK. It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to use. It did connect with explicitely setting port 587 for /tls/. But i bet that neither port nor encryption protocol is the problem. If not alpine mimicks a SMTP error 503 then the connection is good enough to transmit

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 thermidor, an CCXXIII, David Wright a écrit : OK. It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to use. strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done by a separate program. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description:

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): Were I a user of mail.gmx.net, I would ask them. Futile. They'd want me to use the web interface with lots of advertising. Oh dear. Well, could you attack the problem the other way round and connect alpine to exim, say, on your own machine.

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicolas George wrote: Do try strace, and if you know a bit of SMTP, which seems the case, you should be able to spot the problem in a few minutes. It's nearly too late in the evening. But (with alpine 2.20 from source): read(9, 220 gmx.com (mrgmx102) Nemesis E..., 8192) = 52

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright a écrit : It would be nice to know which port numbers alpine is trying to use. Nicolas George: strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done by a separate program. I do know the port number if stunnel is involved. Whatever, the ports and

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : strace can tell you that and much more, especially if the encryption is done by a separate program. Whatever, the ports and encryption are ok. It's alpine's way of speaking ESMTP and/or Nemesis' unfilfilled ESMTP expectations which

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line in ~/.pinerc: smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net David Wright wrote: I assume that you're telling me that this does not work, right? Yes. It connects, alpine asks for the SMTP password, and then

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-26 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): David Wright wrote: Port 465 should be encrypted straightaway, I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line in ~/.pinerc: smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net I assume that you're telling me that this does not

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): I cannot get alpine mail client to send mail via mail.gmx.net:465. It reports Bad sequence of commands which is probably SMTP error 503. My own primitive SMTP client does work (by help of stunnel for SSL). I'm wondering if there's a mismatch in

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: Port 465 should be encrypted straightaway, I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line in ~/.pinerc: smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net or via stunnel to mail.gmx.net:465 at port NNN by

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Celejar wrote: https://github.com/deanproxy/eMail/issues/7 Yes. Some client glitch like this one combined with increased pickiness on server side would explain the problem. A sequence that works is for example EHLO scdbackup.webframe.org MAIL FROM:scdbac...@gmx.net AUTH PLAIN MAIL

Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:49:51 +0200 Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, after a few weeks of settling i got my Debian 8.1 nearly into the shape of its deceased predecessor (antique SuSE which died from southbridge radiator pop-off due to material fatigue). Two problems remain: