Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) Black cable.

1997-07-10 Thread Zachary DeAquila
Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I thouroughly hacked apcd for private use adding the following features:
 - - Close and reopen logfiles on HUP signal.
 - - Make shutdown dependent on the remaining battery load.
 - - Slave uses init for shutdown.
 - - Master uses shutdown code from lates sysvinit (2.71)
 (Not mentioning many code cleanups)
 
 A further project might be a program able to communicate with a java applet
 to enable monitoring the ups from any java capable browser. This might then
 be a complete functional replacement for APC's power-chute software, and
 even better because it will work over the net on any client. But I can't
 tell when time allows this...

Sorry to ask for a recap, but I missed the beginning of this thread... 
So to ask probably already answered questions:  What is the correct
genpower (or... dangit can't rememebr the other UPS package) cable-type 
for the PowerShute Black cable that comes with the APCs?  

Many thanks...

 --Zachary


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Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) Black cable.

1997-07-10 Thread Brian White
 Sorry to ask for a recap, but I missed the beginning of this thread...
 So to ask probably already answered questions:  What is the correct
 genpower (or... dangit can't rememebr the other UPS package) cable-type
 for the PowerShute Black cable that comes with the APCs?

Genpower does not support the black cable because genpower uses dumb-
signalling and the black cable has only enough wires for the smart-signalling
mode.  The new genpower (1.0.1-4) does support the grep plug-n-play
cable, though (apc-pnp)!

  Brian
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Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) Black cable.

1997-07-09 Thread Rob Browning

  A further project might be a program able to communicate with a java applet
  to enable monitoring the ups from any java capable browser. This might then
  be a complete functional replacement for APC's power-chute software, and
  even better because it will work over the net on any client. But I can't
  tell when time allows this...

As a brief aside, I suggest people consider Best Power over APC.  I
just ordered one of their Fortress II's after learning that not only
do you get more power per dollar, but they also publicly disclose
their UPS communications protocol (APC will not), and provide source
code.  I haven't actually gotten the thing yet, but that's what they
told me when I asked.  I know at least CDW carries these if anyone's
interested...

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Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) Black cable.

1997-07-08 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I thouroughly hacked apcd for private use adding the following features:
 - - Close and reopen logfiles on HUP signal.
 - - Make shutdown dependent on the remaining battery load.
 - - Slave uses init for shutdown.
 - - Master uses shutdown code from lates sysvinit (2.71)
 (Not mentioning many code cleanups)
 
 A further project might be a program able to communicate with a java applet
 to enable monitoring the ups from any java capable browser. This might then
 be a complete functional replacement for APC's power-chute software, and
 even better because it will work over the net on any client. But I can't
 tell when time allows this...

 FYI: There's a guy who has already done this and hacked a package
named smupsd (also based on upsd); it's under the GPL and available
at ftp://cms180.cmsnet.com/pub/smupsd/.
Wouldn't it be better to look at his package (and maybe work together with
him)? I couldn't yet try it out because it is in RPM-format and don't have
Java installed yet.
What about to debianize this package?

GreetingsJoachim

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Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) Black cable.

1997-07-02 Thread Brian White
 I choose to run shutdown by itself because I had to assure that the last
 action on master is to shut down the ups. Instead I should probably follow
 the genpower approach and supply a small program that does this from the
 command line.

I worked with Miquel about this when building the genpower package.  Now,
this is done as the final action of halt...

  callandor:~ tail /etc/init.d/halt
  
  mount -n -o remount,ro /
  
  # See if we need to cut the power.
  if [ -x /etc/init.d/ups-monitor ]
  then
  /etc/init.d/ups-monitor poweroff
  fi
  
  halt -d -f


Any UPS monitoring package should provide the virtual package ups-monitor
and provide an /etc/init.d/ups-monitor script.  Genpower just has this
as a link to the genpower script in init.d.


 Apart from this, apcd is ready as a debian package but I didn't find the
 time to upload it, feed the changes back to the upstream maintainer, etc.
 
 Whoever wants this package, drop me an email.

If nobody else wants it, I'll take it. (but only if nobody else wants it --
I'm pretty swamped)

  Brian
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Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) Black cable.

1997-07-02 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Brian White wrote:

  Apart from this, apcd is ready as a debian package but I didn't find the
  time to upload it, feed the changes back to the upstream maintainer, etc.
  
  Whoever wants this package, drop me an email.
 
 If nobody else wants it, I'll take it. (but only if nobody else wants it --
 I'm pretty swamped)

I'll take it but some of this stuff is foreign to me. In other words, I
may have a lot of questions to ask. Also, I started the thread:) I
recently noticed that Nils uploaded the package - does he still want to
give it away? Cheers, Colin. 

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Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) Black cable.

1997-07-01 Thread Nils Rennebarth
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On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Colin R. Telmer wrote:

I have just tried to get two APC Smart UPS v/s 650s up and running in my
department but unfortunately, genpower does not support the cable,
2) I have found another non-debian package called apcupsd which does
   support this cable and most other APC cables. It also supports smart
   mode which is not supported in genpower.

 Moreover, it is GPLd. I would
   be happy to package this for debian if there is no objections/some
   demand. 

Any comments? Cheers, Colin.
apcupsd is derived from apcd by Pavel Korensky [EMAIL PROTECTED], but
unfortunately without a configuration file (many parameters selected at
compile time) and without slave support.

I thouroughly hacked apcd for private use adding the following features:
- - Close and reopen logfiles on HUP signal.
- - Make shutdown dependent on the remaining battery load.
- - Slave uses init for shutdown.
- - Master uses shutdown code from lates sysvinit (2.71)
(Not mentioning many code cleanups)

On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried using apcd at one point which supported smart-signalling.
Unfortunately, it did system shutdown itself instead of telling the
system to shut down and this was unacceptable.

I choose to run shutdown by itself because I had to assure that the last
action on master is to shut down the ups. Instead I should probably follow
the genpower approach and supply a small program that does this from the
command line.

Apart from this, apcd is ready as a debian package but I didn't find the
time to upload it, feed the changes back to the upstream maintainer, etc.

Whoever wants this package, drop me an email.

A further project might be a program able to communicate with a java applet
to enable monitoring the ups from any java capable browser. This might then
be a complete functional replacement for APC's power-chute software, and
even better because it will work over the net on any client. But I can't
tell when time allows this...

Nils

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Re: apcupsd, genpower, and PowerShute(TM) Black cable.

1997-06-28 Thread Brian White
 I have just tried to get two APC Smart UPS v/s 650s up and running in my
 department but unfortunately, genpower does not support the cable, a black
 PowerShute(TM)  cable with serial number 940-0024C.

Genpower 1.0.1-4 does have support for the Win95 Plug-n-Play cable (serial
number 940-0095A).

 However, when I ran gentest in every way possible
 using the black cable, there was no signal at all.

The black cable you mention does not have sufficient wires for the dumb
signalling method used by genpower.  The black cable is essentially nothing
more than a TxD/RxD dumb modem between the UPS and the computer and some
loopback to make sure the computer's serial port is happy.


 1) Does anyone know how I can figure out a new cable specification for the
940-0024C when gentest and statserial are no help?

Cable   Computer
~   
2 RxD   2 TxD
3 TxD   1 RxD
5 GND   9 GND
4 DTR, 1 DCD
7 RTS, 8 CTS


 2) I have found another non-debian package called apcupsd which does
support this cable and most other APC cables. It also supports smart
mode which is not supported in genpower. Moreover, it is GPLd. I would
be happy to package this for debian if there is no objections/some
demand.

I tried using apcd at one point which supported smart-signalling.
Unfortunately, it did system shutdown itself instead of telling the
system to shut down and this was unacceptable.

Using the PnP cable, genpower is exactly what I need.

  Brian
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