Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Martin Kraus
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:58:43PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. ... o QEMU is emulation. o Virtualbox is Full virtualization. o QEMU+KVM is a funny beast, it is paravirtualization with kernel virtualization, you need hardware CPU

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread thib
Martin Kraus wrote: My question is, why there are two apparently identical qemu packages. Which one should I use with kvm. ** I didn't take the time to check that out, so I may be wrong ** The kvm userspace utility is in fact a modified qemu which takes advantage of hardware tech via the kvm

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:41:54PM +0100, Martin Kraus wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:58:43PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. In Debian Squeeze, there are two packages for qemu, one named qemu, the other qemu-kvm. Both are based on

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Martin Kraus
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 10:27:42PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:41:54PM +0100, Martin Kraus wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:58:43PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. In Debian Squeeze, there are two packages

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/8/2010 6:41 AM, Martin Kraus wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:58:43PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. ... o QEMU is emulation. o Virtualbox is Full virtualization. o QEMU+KVM is a funny beast, it is paravirtualization with kernel

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Martin Kraus
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:31:54AM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: This is a better question, and will get better replies. My replies were general, and you had something specific in mind. It pays to be specific. I can tell you about virt tech, though in my scatterbrained way, I will misuse the

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread thib
Martin Kraus wrote: This seems pretty specific to me. I have asked what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm for kvm virtualization. Both support kvm and both are based on qemu 0.11.1 so I wanted to know what is the difference. I'm not really sure that virtualbox is the right thing for a

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/8/2010 3:08 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:31:54AM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: This is a better question, and will get better replies. My replies were general, and you had something specific in mind. It pays to be specific. I can tell you about virt tech, though in my

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread thib
Mark Allums wrote: Sorry, there is some (more) confusion. I was referring to the original post, which seemed to me to be about a completely different topic. Are we reading the same original post? Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/8/2010 5:33 PM, thib wrote: More info relative to my last post: if you want to use KVM, you do *need* the modified qemu software provided by the kvm package (which really points to qemu-kvm). These changes are currently pushed upstream [1]. I hope it clears any ambiguity. [1]

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread thib
Mark Allums wrote: However, I myself am now failng to understand the difference between the two. Are you saying that one package is simply a meta- or virtual package pointing to the other, and that installing one installs the other? Exactly. In squeeze, kvm is still a virtual package

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-08 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/8/2010 8:37 PM, Mark Allums wrote: Are you saying that one package is simply a meta- or virtual package pointing to the other, and that installing one installs the other? Because I just tried that (in Squeeze), and the two are mutually exclusive. You can install one or the other, but

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-07 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/4/2010 6:41 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-07 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/7/2010 9:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 6:41 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-07 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/4/2010 6:41 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-07 Thread Richard Hector
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 22:07 -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Oh, and Virtualbox was originally based on QEMU, and there is still a lot of QEMU code in it. Interesting - does that pose any issues for the non-OSE Virtualbox, w.r.t. QEMU being GPL? Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-07 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/7/2010 10:40 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 22:07 -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Oh, and Virtualbox was originally based on QEMU, and there is still a lot of QEMU code in it. Interesting - does that pose any issues for the non-OSE Virtualbox, w.r.t. QEMU being GPL? Richard

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-05 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Martin Kraus lists...@wujiman.net wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about this.

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-05 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
Oops, correction: where my last post stated: ... If your processor couldn't run kvm, you would install that and run qemu ... I meant: ... If your processor couldn't run kvm, you would install and run qemu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze

2010-03-04 Thread Mark Allums
On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about this. thanks for clarification mk