Re: Typo in proposal D

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 08:10:44PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > "which is not the what the user wanted" > > "not the what": s/the// > > The proposal also contains Markdown syntax (**, ``) which imho should > be converted to HTML on the web site. If Ian can confirm that the intention is to

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 09:07:19AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > I'm definitely fine with Kurt's revision to the title of Proposal A > given the similar change to proposal E and Ian's comments. > > > If I'm permitted to make the following change under A.1(6) (that is, > permitted to make the

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:54:40PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:27:13AM +, Chris Lamb wrote: > > > May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" > > throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to > > it being subject to a

Re: CFV Timing and length of voting period

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 06:01:53PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > > On 11/26/19 2:47 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: > > One question. Should I extend the voting period to give people more > > time to vote given that holidays are near. I'm not sure it would help > > much because I think the primary

Re: Proposed amendment to Proposal D

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 08:34:42AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > >>>>> "Kurt" == Kurt Roeckx writes: > > Kurt> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 02:39:05PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at

Re: Proposed amendment to Proposal D

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 02:39:05PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 01:09:10PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > [change removing regret about having another GR] > > > Unless anyone objects by 1400 UTC on Wednesday, I intend to accept > > this amendment, assuming that

Re: Replacing Proposal A

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 11:00:00AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > >>>>> "Kurt" == Kurt Roeckx writes: > > Kurt> It's my current interpretation that the title you gave was > Kurt> part of the text, and so not under my control. Which is why 4 >

Re: Procedural rangling

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 02:53:51PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 08:43:06AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > >>>>> "Kurt" == Kurt Roeckx writes: > > > > > > Kurt> I always struggle with trying to unde

Re: Replacing Proposal A

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 08:34:13PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Sam" == Sam Hartman writes: > > Sam> Dear Secretary: > > Sam> Based on discussion, I'd like to replace Proposal A with the > Sam> following amended text; I accept this amendment. > > Sigh, and introduced a typo

Re: Proposal: Init Diversity

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 01:44:09PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 1:33 PM Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:49:47PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 9:02 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: Proposal: Init Diversity

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:49:47PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 9:02 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:10:13PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: > > > > > > Please consider the above version, and all future variants that contain &

Re: Proposal: Init Diversity

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:45:21AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > >>>>> "Kurt" == Kurt Roeckx writes: > > Kurt> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 02:39:09PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote: > >> Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: Proposal: Init Diversity"): >

Re: Proposal: Init Diversity

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 02:39:09PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: Proposal: Init Diversity"): > > I've currently put the title to "Packages should support > > non-systemd". Suggestions welcome. > > Dmitry titled his posting "

Re: Proposal: Init Diversity

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 01:08:08PM +, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > > Here I formally propose update of my draft and withdraw all previous > versions. This version contains only grammatical fixes and does not > change meaning. > > Here I formally propose update of my draft and withdraw all

Re: Proposal: Init Diversity

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:10:13PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: > > Please consider the above version, and all future variants that contain > nothing > but grammar/wording changes, seconded by me. (As opposed to meaning > changes.) I was unable to verify your signature.

Re: Procedural rangling

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 08:43:06AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > >>>>> "Kurt" == Kurt Roeckx writes: > > > Kurt> I always struggle with trying to understand that part, but my > Kurt> current interpretation is different. The page

Re: Proposal: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd Facilities

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 08:54:55AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Sam Hartman writes: > > > To clarify, my understanding is that the discussion period started > > November 16. > > So, we're talking about a minimum discussion period expiring on > > November 30. > > Your acceptance of my amendment

Re: Re-Proposing: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 05:19:11PM +, James Clarke wrote: > > Seconded (with and without my kFreeBSD hat). That email wasn't signed. Kurt

Re: Proposal: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd Facilities

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 09:58:51AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes: > > Ian> Sam Hartman writes ("Proposal: General Resolution on Init > Ian> Systems and systemd Facilities"): > >> Timeline: I think that two weeks for discussion of this GR seems > >>

Re: Re-Proposing: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 02:41:19PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: Re-Proposing: General Resolution on Init Systems and > systemd"): > > The update should be available on the website now. > > Hi, thanks. I looked at the version here > >

Re: Proposal: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd Facilities

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 01:07:44PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I would note that as the proposer of an option with enough seconds, I > can also call for a vote when the minimum discussion period has > elapsed. You can increase the minimum discussion period, but only to > 3 weeks. IMO it would

Re: Re-Proposing: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 06:29:33PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: Re-Proposing: General Resolution on Init Systems and > systemd"): > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 12:58:35AM +, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > > > Seconded. > > > >

Re: Re-Proposing: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 12:58:35AM +, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > Seconded. So that was the 5th second, and I've pushed that to the webiste. Note that it's still the original proposal, Ian doesn't seem to have accepted Russ's change yet. Kurt

Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 05:37:46PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon 18 Nov 2019 at 04:57PM +00, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Russ Allbery writes ("Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR"): > >> Ian Jackson writes: > >> > + (with no substantial effect on systemd installations) > >>

Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 12:57:04PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > It is not clear to me who can "accept" it - would that me be as the > proposer of this version, or Sam as the original proposer ? Perhaps > Kurt's life would be made easier if Sam would, at the appropriate > point, indicate his

Re: Re-Proposing: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 09:01:45PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > I also don't think it is appropriate to consider something overriding a > > delegate unless it is overiding a specific decision of a delegate. > > For the record, it's not possible in this case to override a decision of > the

Re: Re-Proposing: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:35:27AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Choice hartmans1: Affirm Init Diversity > > Using its power under Constitution section 4.1 (5), the project issues > the following statement describing our current position on Init > systems, Init system diversity, and the use of

Re: Draft text on Init Systems GR

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:08:36PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > As I've mentioned before, these need to be framed in terms of policy, not > RCness. Note that we also have delegated policy editors: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/08/msg2.html Kurt

Re: Re-Proposing: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:35:27AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > The secretary requested that I have each choice be self-contained. > So I'm folding the header into each choice. > > The line of dashes separates each choice. > I formally propose these general resolution options. Can you please

Re: Draft text on Init Systems GR

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 05:40:10PM +, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > > [2019-11-15 11:52] Ian Jackson > > Dmitry, I suggest instead, this change to your original text: > > Being able to run Debian systems with init systems other than > systemd continues to be value for the project.

Debian Project Leader Election 2019 Results

|322 | 57 | 30.320 | 6.58729 | | 2018 | 1001 | 47.457 | 343 |333 | 53 | 33.266 | 7.01674 | | 2019 | 1003 | 47.505 | 389 |378 | 59 | 37.687 | 7.95701 | |--+--++---++-++---| Kurt Roeckx Debian Project Secretary

DPL vote results

Hi, It seems that the automatic mail didn't get send. The winner is Sam Hartman. I will send an official mail later. Kurt signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Failing GPG key (was: Re: Debian Project Leader election 2019: First call for votes)

On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 07:10:04PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:19:10AM +0200, Mathias Behrle wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have set up an expiry on my GPG key: > > - originally set to 2019-04-07 > > - updated on 2019-04-08 to 2021-04-06

Re: Failing GPG key (was: Re: Debian Project Leader election 2019: First call for votes)

On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 10:19:10AM +0200, Mathias Behrle wrote: > Hi all, > > I have set up an expiry on my GPG key: > - originally set to 2019-04-07 > - updated on 2019-04-08 to 2021-04-06 and pushed to various keyservers > including keyring.debian.org. > > But nevertheless my ballot is

Debian Project Leader election 2019: First call for votes

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Draft ballot

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Re: Withdrawing from DPL election

On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 01:33:33PM +0700, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Kurt Roeckx [2019-03-29 23:39]: > > I've updated the vote pages to remove you as candidate. > > I'm not sure if removing Simon from the vote page entirely is best > from a historical records point of view.

Re: Withdrawing from DPL election

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 09:25:58PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > On 17.03.19 00:51, Simon Richter wrote: > > > I'd also like nominate myself for the 2019 DPL election. > > As you may have noticed, life happened to me shortly after sending that > mail. I'm definitely not in a position to

Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Candidates

We're now into the campaigning period. We have 5 candidates this year: - Joerg Jaspert - Jonathan Carter - Sam Hartman - Martin Michlmayr - Simon Richter I will make his platforms available when I have received them. Kurt Roeckx Debian Project Secretary signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Nomination for sjr

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 12:51:27AM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > I'd also like nominate myself for the 2019 DPL election. This looks like a valid nomination Kurt

Re: Nomination from tbm

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 12:36:31AM +0800, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > I hereby announce my intention to run for DPL. I'm going to look at this as a valid self nomination, and not just an intention to nominate yourself. Kurt

Re: DPL 2019 nomination

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 09:38:52AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > I nominate myself to stand as a candidate for DPL in the 2019 DPL > elections. I ack that this is valid. Kurt

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Call for nominations

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 12:34:02PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > I hereby nominate myself for the DPL election 2019. I ack that this is valid. Kurt

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Call for nominations

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 01:43:04PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > I hereby nominate myself for the 2019 DPL election. I ack that this is valid. Kurt

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Call for nominations

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 01:48:23PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 15337 March 1977, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > In fairness, I'd recommend that the nominations period be extended for > > some explicit time. I think that we want to have a known window for new > > nominations rather than say

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Call for nominations

| Saturday 2019-03-16 | | Campaign | Sunday 2019-03-17 | Saturday 2019-04-06 | | Vote | Sunday 2019-04-07 | Saturday 2019-04-20 | Kurt Roeckx Debian Project Secretary On Sun, Mar 03, 2019 at 01:17:23AM +0100, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > Hi, > &g

Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Call for nominations

e campaign period, so I can publish them around 2019-03-17. Details and results for the vote will be published at: http://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_001 Please make sure that nominations are sent to (or cc:'d to) debian-vote, and are cryptographically signed. Kurt Roeckx Debian Project

DPL election 2019

Hi, This is the proposed timeline for the 2019 DPL election: Nomination period: Sunday 2019-03-03 - Saturday 2019-03-09 Campaigning period: Sunday 2019-03-10 - Saturday 2019-03-30 Voting period: Sunday 2019-03-31 - Saturday 2019-04-13 Kurt

Debian Project Leader Election 2018 Results

| 5.87787 | | 2017 | 1062 | 48.882 | 327 |322 | 57 | 30.320 | 6.58729 | | 2017 | 1001 | 47.457 | 343 |333 | 53 | 33.266 | 7.01674 | |--+--++---++-++---| Kurt Roeckx Debian Project Secretary signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Vote status

On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 02:20:13AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > The vote is running, you can send the emails. You will not get a > ack about your vote until I can look at what's broken, which will > hopefully be tomorrow evening. If you received an error message, I > can reproces

Vote status

The vote is running, you can send the emails. You will not get a ack about your vote until I can look at what's broken, which will hopefully be tomorrow evening. If you received an error message, I can reprocess your email. There is no reason to revote at the moment. If you did vote properly you

Debian Project Leader election 2018: First call for votes

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Ballot for the vote

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Debian Project Leader Elections 2018: Call for nominations

round 2018-03-18. Details and results for the vote will be published at: http://www.debian.org/vote/2018/vote_001 Please make sure that nominations are sent to (or cc:'d to) debian-vote, and are cryptographically signed. Kurt Roeckx Debian Project Secretary signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Debian Project Leader Election 2017 Results

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Re: DPL Voting period

On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 11:35:06AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sat, Apr 08, 2017 at 07:34:34PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > We're currently in the voting period, the discussion/campaigning > > period is over. Can I please ask everybody to stop talking about > > thin

DPL Voting period

Hi, We're currently in the voting period, the discussion/campaigning period is over. Can I please ask everybody to stop talking about things related to the DPL election on this list. Kurt

Debian Project Leader election 2017: First call for votes

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Re: draft ballot

On Sun, Apr 02, 2017 at 12:46:56AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 11:00:40PM +0200, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 09:30:41PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > Here is the draft ballot. > > > > Thanks for it! > >

Re: draft ballot

On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 11:00:40PM +0200, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 09:30:41PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > Here is the draft ballot. > > Thanks for it! > > This draft does not contain any information regarding the secrecy of the > vot

draft ballot

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Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2017: Call for nominations

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 02:29:17PM +, Chris Lamb wrote: > Chris Lamb wrote: > > > I hereby nominate myself for the forthcoming DPL election. > > Trying again; something, somewhere mangled my signature. The signature was fine in both cases. Kurt

Debian Project Leader Elections 2017: Call for nominations

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Re: DPL 2017 vote timeline

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 07:21:44PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > The timeline this year is: > Nomination period: 2017-03-05 - 2015-03-11 > Campaigning period: 2017-03-12 - 2015-04-01 > Voting period: 2017-04-02 - 2017-04-15 So that should be: Nomination period: 2017-03-05 - 2017-03-11

DPL 2017 vote timeline

The timeline this year is: Nomination period: 2017-03-05 - 2015-03-11 Campaigning period: 2017-03-12 - 2015-04-01 Voting period: 2017-04-02 - 2017-04-15 Kurt

GR: Declassifying debian-private: First call for votes

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GR draft text

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Re: New amdendment proposal (Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying debian-private)

On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 10:09:37PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 02:08:34PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > While checking all requisites are met, I found I mis-counted for my > > CfV, mixing together Iain's original and reformed proposal. It > > current

Re: New amdendment proposal (Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying debian-private)

On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 02:08:34PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > While checking all requisites are met, I found I mis-counted for my > CfV, mixing together Iain's original and reformed proposal. It > currently has four seconders only, so in order to have the three > presented options in the ballot:

Re: Call for votes: Repeal the 2005 vote for declassification of the debian-private mailing list

On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 11:11:32PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > [ Amazing as it might seem for this issue, I forgot to sign my > mail. Here it is again. Apologies for the duplication ] > > Debian Project Secretary, > > It has been two weeks since I posted my GR proposal [1] to the > debian-vote

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 11:37:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Jakub Wilk writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private > (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"): > > * Ian Jackson , 2016-09-20, 16:47: > > >5.

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:49:54PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Ian Jackson , 2016-09-20, 16:47: > > 5. Participants are reminded to use -private only when necessary. > > s/5/6/ The website actually says 6 there, since I replaced the numbers by . Kurt

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 02:29:03PM +, Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 02:57:21PM +0200, Sven Bartscher wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 13:53:28 +0100 > > Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > > I think it would be best to seek further sponsors for my

Re: Proposed GR: Repeal the 2005 vote for declassification of the debian-private mailing list

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 10:17:46AM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > On Thu, 2016-09-01 at 23:15 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > > > Title: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private. > > > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:34:42AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Ian Jackson dijo [Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 04:23:31PM +0100]: > > > > Do I need to re-make my proposal as an amendment to Gunnar's or are > > > > you happy to treat it as such ? > > > > > > FWIW I think we will be better off if we have it

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 03:43:43PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private > (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"): > > So that proposal has 5 seconds now, and so is accepted. >

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 09:46:19PM +0200, Ond??ej Surý wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 06:52:44PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 09:37:05AM +0200, Ond??ej Surý wrote: > > > Just found out about Gunnar's proposal in the debian-vote archive, so I > >

Re: Proposed GR: Repeal the 2005 vote for declassification of the debian-private mailing list

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 06:53:01PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > Then there is a proposal from Iain Lane <la...@debian.org>: > > > Title: debian-private shall remain private > > 1. The 2005 G

Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 09:37:05AM +0200, Ond??ej Surý wrote: > Just found out about Gunnar's proposal in the debian-vote archive, so I > am seconding Gunnar's proposal from 20160902041505.gd3...@gwolf.org > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2016/09/msg4.html) This is not signed. Please

Re: Proposed GR: Repeal the 2005 vote for declassification of the debian-private mailing list

On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:15:05PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private. > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >lisa archives" is repealed. > 2. In keeping with

General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results

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General Resolution: Replace Chairman with Chair

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Re: Results for Declassifying debian-private

Please ignore this e-mail. It never happened. Kurt

Re: more GRs to come

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 01:24:28PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Perhaps it would be nice if sufficiently-seconded GR amendments, or > accepted GR amendments, were announced on d-d-a, by the Secretary. My current process only announces the GR once, after there were enough seconds. It might take me

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 07:56:07PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > If on the other hand we say: Listmaster can come up with a proposal > which can be discussed and as ultima ratio vetoed by GR (or by DPL via > delegation revocation) I don't think the DPL can not undo a decision made by someone

draft explaining the GRs

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GR: Declassifying debian-private: First call for votes

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Ballot for declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

Hi, I've prepared a ballot for the upcomming GR. It contains some new sections and I hope it's more clear than the previous ones. I'm looking for feedback. Kurt Voting period starts 2016-08-07 00:00:00 UTC Votes must be received by 2016-08-20 23:59:59 UTC The following

Re: Call for votes: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 12:18:04PM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > > Dear Secretary, > > It has been two weeks since I accepted this amendment. I would like to call > for > votes on this General Resolution. I'll let the vote start on 2016-08-07 00:00 UTC. Kurt

Re: Slight confusion with voting

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:19:58PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Gianfranco Costamagna , 2016-07-31, 10:29: > > > Your key. "Responses to a valid vote" come from the secretary, after > > > you cast such a vote; you are responding to a ballot, not a vote. > > exactly, and

Re: GR: Replace Chairman by Chair in the constitution: First call for votes

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 12:38:39PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > The ballot mail has these headers: > > Reply-To: gr_ctte_ch...@vote.debian.org > Mail-Followup-To: grp_ctte_ch...@vote.debian.org > > The latter address looks typoed. s/grp/gr/? Yes, and I've set up an alias so both should work.

GR: Replace Chairman by Chair in the constitution: First call for votes

Hi, This is the first call for vote on the General Resolution about changing to constitution to use Chair in stead of Chairman. Voting period starts 2016-07-31 00:00:00 UTC Votes must be received by 2016-08-13 23:59:59 UTC The following ballot is for voting on updating the

Re: GR Proposal: replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:55:09PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 08:23:09PM +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > > > > > Title: Replace "Chairman" with "Chair" t

Re: GR Proposal: replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 08:23:09PM +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: > Hi, > > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > > > Title: Replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution > > > > All appearances of the word Chairman shall be replaced with the word Chair. > > > > === END GR TEXT

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:13:38PM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > * Don Armstrong [2016-07-17 17:56:12 -0700]: > > > In response to the helpful comments, I've modified my proposed amendment > > to Nicolas's resolution by adding "at minimum", and now propose the > > following

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 05:56:12PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > In response to the helpful comments, I've modified my proposed amendment > to Nicolas's resolution by adding "at minimum", and now propose the > following amendment: > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Declassifying parts of

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:04:00PM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > * Kurt Roeckx <k...@roeckx.be> [2016-07-16 20:52:03 +0200]: > > This is at least very confusing. The title says "will remain > > private", but none of the text says anything about it

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private

On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 04:46:04PM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > * Kurt Roeckx <k...@roeckx.be> [2016-07-08 16:21:32 +0200]: > > > On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 03:37:08PM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > > > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > > > > > Ti

Re: New General Resolutions.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 04:58:44PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 03:52:51PM +0200, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt > Roeckx a écrit : > > > > 2 new GRs have been started: > > > > - debian-private list will remain private: > > https

Re: GR Proposal: replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 06:53:33PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > Am Montag, den 11.07.2016, 07:20 +0200 schrieb Bernd Zeimetz: > > seconded > > if more than half the developers second the proposal, can we skip the > voting? You can look for a new secretary in that case. Kurt

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