[Declude.JunkMail] New Definition of Spam Cop

2002-09-26 Thread George Kulman
Title: Message I really couldn't help laughing at discovering spam this morning through an open relay at: mail.kcpd.org Kansas City, MO Police Department Where's SPAMCOP when you need them. George Kulman Partner Ridge Systems, L.L.C.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More On Spam, And SpamCop

2002-09-26 Thread Smart Business Lists
Thursday, September 26, 2002 you wrote: T But they're doing it the wrong way, both in concept and execution. The big problem I see with Spam-Cop is the area of web site URL's contained within user provided e-mail messages. When I receive a notice from Spam-Cop that someone has reported a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DSN:Newb Junkmail $default$ file question

2002-09-26 Thread Troy Hilton
I'm also a newbie with JunkMail as I've only been using it for a week. What I did was setup an email account called "spam" and I set a couple of tests, BADHEADERS ORDB,to route any emails it caught to that mail account. I can then review the mail to see if any legitimate emails was caught

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More On Spam, And SpamCop

2002-09-26 Thread Don Brown
More often than not, the web site customer is culpable. IOW, they were either the spammer in disguise or they commissioned the spam, in order to drive traffic to their web site -- usually to sell something. For that reason, we extensively use the Declude filter file to list those URLs, as well

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DSN:Newb Junkmail $default$ file question

2002-09-26 Thread Kevin \(Linkbrokers Support\)
I set up a email called spam as you suggested. And change theto: fields in the Emails to go there. Thatseems that is working fine. Some one else suggested to make everything log. But what do I use to review this files? I'm also not really sure what all the definitionsmean on the

[Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH

2002-09-26 Thread Bill B
How affective is scanning at multiple Hops? I'm not setting HOPHIGH right now...but I'm currious if the people who are using it are seeing its benefits, or if it is causing them any problems. And what is the recommended HOPHIGH setting (assuming HOP is set to 0)? Bill --- [This E-mail was

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH

2002-09-26 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
I use a difference of 3 HOP 0 HIGHHIGH 2 i love it... I know of at least 1 server where they know their server is an open relay, so they have their server set to send all outbound mail to another smtp server which is not to get around open relay blocks, i still block them, beecause they are hop

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH

2002-09-26 Thread Dan Patnode
Bill, Mine is set to 2 (for a total of 3). I started at 0, then 1 and found that spam still got around my filters that would have been caught at 2. I changed it to 2 4+ months ago and haven't looked back. Your mileage may vary. I haven't seen a need to set it at 3. Dan On Thursday,

[Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question

2002-09-26 Thread Troy Hilton
Hello All, So far I've been very happy with JunkMail. I'm only running a few tests and it's catching a lot of spam and porn. However, I'm noticing the occasional legitimate email from badly formatted clients. For example, JunkMail caught a confirmation email from an online service that one of my

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question

2002-09-26 Thread Jim Rooth
I do it by a weight system. Thee are a few of the tests that really have less value in catching legitimate spam. For instance if you give a heavy weight to noabuse, you will not receive any mail from Microsoft as they do not want the emails telling them they are screwing up so therefore they do

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question

2002-09-26 Thread R. Scott Perry
So far I've been very happy with JunkMail. I'm only running a few tests and it's catching a lot of spam and porn. However, I'm noticing the occasional legitimate email from badly formatted clients. For example, JunkMail caught a confirmation email from an online service that one of my co-workers

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH

2002-09-26 Thread Bill B
Thanks guys...sounds like I should have been using this setting earlier. I'll start it out at 1 like Dan suggested and bump after watching it for a while. Bill -Original Message- From: Dan Patnode Sent: 26 Sep 2002 13:02:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH Bill, Mine

[Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM failing on user@domain@host

2002-09-26 Thread Bill B
PROTECTED] SMTP LOG: 20020926 163043 127.0.0.1 SMTPD (0D740042) [64.236.243.243] EHLO weabsunprd12.weac.com 20020926 163044 127.0.0.1 SMTPD (0D740042) [64.236.243.243] MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mx.digical.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM failing on user@domain@host

2002-09-26 Thread R. Scott Perry
Mail from one of our users continuously fails the MAILFROM test, but I'm not sure that it should be failing. The only funny thing this message has is the mail server hostname appended to the end of the address, but I thought that was valid. No, it isn't valid: X-Note: Sent from [EMAIL

[Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP:[SNIFFER Sniffer test failed]Declude.JunkMail and Message Sniffer

2002-09-26 Thread Lenny Bauman
Hello all I have Junkmail running and it has cut down on the spam somewhat I am still getting a lot of spam so I though I would give Message Sniffer a try I installed it about 24 hours ago and it has catauh a large amount of the message that I was getting as spam. The problem that I am

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP:[SNIFFER Sniffer test failed]Declude.JunkMail and Message Sniffer

2002-09-26 Thread Jim Rooth
Instead of whitelisting, try giving those names a negative value. That way if you do get some real spam from that domain, you will still have other values or weights to use to catch it. If you whitelist, nothing is even checked and it goes through regardless. Jim Rooth Klotron, Inc.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP:[SNIFFER Sniffer test failed]Declude.JunkMail and Message Sniffer

2002-09-26 Thread Madscientist
For now, you will want to whitelist these. The trouble is that many lists append advertising content to their messages. Sniffer tends to get triggered by the advertising content. Next month we plan to release a version that includes compound heuristics. At that time we will begin adding

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question

2002-09-26 Thread John Tolmachoff
Thanks Scott, I meant to say SPAMHEADERS in lieu of BADHEADERS...to ya'll I was RFC ignorant...you had to figure the rest of the ignorance out on your own...LOL Me thinks you have been spending too much time around a truck stop again Jim. The diesel fumes are getting to you again. :-) John