[Declude.JunkMail] Opinion on bulk mailers

2003-01-14 Thread Mike K
What is everyone's opinion on bulk mailers like flowgo, gossipflash, valoffers, quill? The joke lists, cell phone offers, travel offers, software offers, etc. The old saying one mans trash is anothers treasure comes to mind. While I as an isp admin think it's trash, and optin is the only true

[Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread Kris McElroy
I have noticed that some people on this list filter emails for p o r n and things of other nature. I am wanting to start filtering for such things also. My fear is that I will catch a lot of legitimate emails in the process. Does anyone have an example filter for this type of junk? Or any

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread Keith Purtell
I've been able to catch most porn by using the subject line filter in IMail's rules.ima file. Most porn spammers are pretty blatant about their subject matter. If your version of JunkMail allows filtering (searching for text strings), then catching the obvious dirty words would be your starting

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinion on bulk mailers

2003-01-14 Thread John Tolmachoff
My current question goes in the opposite direction. I'm tempted to blacklist the entire IP range held by rackspace.com. It seems that every third item in my HOLD folder lately comes from an address in rackspace. You would not want to blacklist Scott, would you? I think he said one time one of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread John Tolmachoff
I am using a combination of adult senders list, simple filters and NoXMail. The use of filters can be hard do to the mix/combination of words. Plus, the senders themselves are smart, such as one sender that kept sending with the word f * c k in the subject line, with out the spaces. Any one

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread Michael Lauritzen
Can you give some more details regarding the Adult sender's lists? thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinion on bulk mailers

2003-01-14 Thread John Shacklett
Well, I did only say tempted. I have been pretty heavy handed knocking off /24 blocks however. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2003 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread Kris McElroy
Is the NOXMAIL an external test? If so where can I go to find information about the product? Thanks, Kris McElroy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Systems Engineer Duracom, INC. www.duracom.net - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinion on bulk mailers

2003-01-14 Thread R. Scott Perry
Well, I did only say tempted. I have been pretty heavy handed knocking off /24 blocks however. FWIW, it's the webserver hosting www.declude.com that is (or was) using rackspace.com. So in this case, if you did block all of rackspace.com, you would risk not getting notifications when you

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinion on bulk mailers

2003-01-14 Thread David Stavert
Content alone is not the criteria for condemning an email. I may personally dislike the message but if it is subscribed, to hands off. It is far to easy, when we control the switch, to let our own tastes, beliefs, and prejudices, influence our trigger finger. Many large companies have outsourced

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread Dan Spangenberg
For us sniffer has proven very effective for spam in general and specifically for adult spam. I find that virtually all adult content is caught by sniffer, well over 90%. Initially I only gave it a weight of 8, thus requiring another test to force it over 10 and trigger a hold. But I found quite a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread John Tolmachoff
Is the NOXMAIL an external test? If so where can I go to find information about the product? NoXMail is an external test going through Beta testing right now. Several of us on this list have been testing it with good results. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information. John Tolmachoff

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread John Tolmachoff
The adult sender's list I have was gathered over time from reports from users and from ones I have seen in the SPAM folder. I would be happy to share it. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread John Tolmachoff
Anyone else find this with sniffer? The trial I did of Sniffer was very positive. However, I could not get approval for purchase do to our budget problems. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Slow IMail IMAPd

2003-01-14 Thread Todd Ryan
Aaron, What kind of NIC is in the 2000 box? This is a hot topic recently on the IMail list. See the thread FIXED! Imail SLOW When Running On Fast W2K Hardware. Dev discovered that there definitely is a problem with newer faster NICs, Windows 2000, and IMail 7.??. IPSwitch recommends

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Slow IMail IMAPd

2003-01-14 Thread Todd Ryan
Aaron, What kind of NIC is in the 2000 box? This is a hot topic recently on the IMail list. See the thread FIXED! Imail SLOW When Running On Fast W2K Hardware. Dev discovered that there definitely is a problem with newer faster NICs, Windows 2000, and IMail 7.??. IPSwitch recommends

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinion on bulk mailers

2003-01-14 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
We are not an ISP; as a private corporation, we define our usage policy and it is more strict than what you can, so we can block junkmail as well as spam. We try not to be censors, but spam and junkmail cost us real dollars in theft of service and loss of productivity. We have the luxury of

[Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail and Imail 6.05

2003-01-14 Thread Dustin Freeman
Hey all, I have a thread going on this on the Imail list but I thought I'd check with other Declude-Junkmail users also. We have Declude Junkmail set to flag messages on a weighting system and then we have an Imail rule set to move those flagged messages to a Junkmail folder. What our dilemma

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinion on bulk mailers

2003-01-14 Thread R. Scott Perry
Content alone is not the criteria for condemning an email. I may personally dislike the message but if it is subscribed, to hands off. It is far to easy, when we control the switch, to let our own tastes, beliefs, and prejudices, influence our trigger finger. That is a good point (in fact,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread Kami Razvan
One observation I have made is majority of such spam come from random emails but the content refers to certain web sites - quite consistently. So we have an active URL list that if found in the body of emails it will weigh them quite high. These URL's are real consistent and in combination of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread Keith Johnson
The adult sender's list I have was gathered over time from reports from users and from ones I have seen in the SPAM folder. I would be happy to share it. That would be awesome if you don't mind. Please email me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Again, thank you for your time and professionalism

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinion on bulk mailers

2003-01-14 Thread Sheldon Koehler
We have the luxury of blocking FlowGo, ValOffers et al. The standard response is that isn't related to our line of business, subscribe from your personal account if you want it. Andrew, In testing, I found sniffer to do a great job of blocking email that has no business needs. It catches over

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread Dan Spangenberg
Please post it to the list, I'm sure many of us could use it. I never have the time to tweak my filters -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail and Imail 6.05

2003-01-14 Thread Charles Frolick
This is not an uncommon problem. From what I know, Imail 7.x still has it. In my research, I have not found a tool to clear just one folder in a mailbox based on date, but I did develop an application to manage spam using a combination of weighting, Imail rules, and an external server software

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread Michael Lauritzen
John, that would be wonderful. Thanks so much. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions The adult

[Declude.JunkMail] Adult list

2003-01-14 Thread John Tolmachoff
Since there have been numerous requests, I am sending this to the list in a zipped form. Everything listed was reported by users and either was seen at least 5 times in the logs or reported by more than one client. Listed domains were seen with many hits and different addresses. This list is

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread John Tolmachoff
So we have an active URL list that if found in the body of emails it will weigh them quite high. These URL's are real consistent and in combination of subject filters we have blocked pretty much all of them. Kami, that is a great idea. Would you be willing to share the list? Feel free to

[Declude.JunkMail] Filter Rules

2003-01-14 Thread Kris McElroy
I am getting several emails from different FROM address but they all contain the following url as a link in the body of the message. Can I filter for www.wholesalemortgagediscounts.com as filter rule. http://www.wholesalemortgagediscounts.com/index.asp?Afft=QM3 Thanks, Kris McElroy [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Rules

2003-01-14 Thread John Tolmachoff
I am getting several emails from different FROM address but they all contain the following url as a link in the body of the message. Can I filter for www.wholesalemortgagediscounts.com as filter rule. Yes. BODY 0 contains www.wholesalemortgagediscounts.com John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Questions/Suggestions

2003-01-14 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; [sorry for the long note] These files are changing everyday... Sure.. I hope the list does not mind. I have asked so we put a link on a location on our site and keep these files up to date. Similar to what Tom has done which has helped us quite a lot. Here is the legend to the files that

[Declude.JunkMail] Passing SPAM that should be bounced

2003-01-14 Thread Darrell L.
It appears as if Declude is allowing mail that fails spam tests that have been funneled through our backup mail server to pass. #GLOBAL CONFIG IPBYPASS 12.25.87.100 Here is the relevant portion of logs and configs 20030114 162019 127.0.0.1 SMTPD (6B090098) [209.94.11.105] connect

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing SPAM that should be bounced

2003-01-14 Thread R. Scott Perry
It appears as if Declude is allowing mail that fails spam tests that have been funneled through our backup mail server to pass. That's because outgoing mail isn't normally scanned (with Declude JunkMail Pro, the outgoing actions in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file will be used). Now the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing SPAM that should be bounced

2003-01-14 Thread Darrell L.
Scott, A couple of questions 1.) Since the mail was already incoming and has gone through all the spam checks inbound is there anyway to override the current behavior of discarding those results and actually have the message react to the incoming spam checks. 2.) If I can't override the default

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail and Imail 6.05

2003-01-14 Thread Sanford Whiteman
So what I am trying to do is to clean out the junkmail folders for all the users to only keep the past 7 days in there (maybe less) So I need to remove messages by date out of the junkmail.mbx files... Two batch files, ITERATE.BAT and EXPIRE.BAT: ITERATE.BAT --- c: CD c:\imail FOR

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing SPAM that should be bounced

2003-01-14 Thread R. Scott Perry
1.) Since the mail was already incoming and has gone through all the spam checks inbound is there anyway to override the current behavior of discarding those results and actually have the message react to the incoming spam checks. Declude JunkMail will only scan an E-mail once. E-mail can be