[Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Dan Horne
My superiors have asked me to start deleting email based on a word filter. The issue arose when the receptionist, who is our designated Spam Reviewer, complained that she saw the same words over and over and couldn't we just delete those spams before they got to her? Because as soon as she sees

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Keith Anderson
Why not just do as they ask, and let them experience the consequences? I've found it's generally not a good idea to fight a battle against the entire management team of a company, because even if you win the round, you will lose the game. I can understand their point of view. For some of my

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
Well, my answer was that Declude can, but the risks of accidentally deleting good mail outweighed the convenience of not having to hit delete. She went over my head and got the bosses on her side. Now I've gotta have a meeting with them and come up with a solution. Any suggestions? I'm by no

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Kendra Lists
-- Original Message -- From: Dan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:22:49 -0400 No matter what you do, it will probably meet not perform as they think it should. I'd make sure they understand that e-mail WILL be

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Practically all SPAM fails more than one test. This might be a time for a review of your configuration. I am perfectly happy with automatically deleting messages based on weight, in doing so knowing that I have spent the time adjusting the configuration and keeping an eye on the logs. Example,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
... assuming that you take the precautions noted in the manual for examples like Mr. Hitchcock, you're probably safe to do this except that you should take pains to keep them long and unlikely to appear in regular mail, e.g. GR-X is too short (remove they hyphen). Since a BODY search will also

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Keith Purtell
Select the word list, then send the managers a polite email reminding them that the new filter may delete mail from a new customer. That way you've covered your tail if the receptionist's brain storm causes the loss of a new account. Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread George Kulman
Dan, First, use phrases where possible instead of single words to minimize substring issues such as the end of e_s_s_e_x and many others like that. Second, after you have developed your list of words or phrases, run it by management for their analysis of any entries which could be part of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Well, my answer was that Declude can, but the risks of accidentally deleting good mail outweighed the convenience of not having to hit delete. She went over my head and got the bosses on her side. Now I've gotta have a meeting with them and come up with a solution. Any suggestions? I have

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Markus Gufler
Prior to this, we haven't deleted anything outright until reviewed by the receptionist. Every time I hear them utter the word delete, my skin crawls. So my request from the list: Can you either give me some ammo to back up my side, or provide me with a solution that keeps her from

[Declude.JunkMail] Versioning of interim releases

2003-10-15 Thread Junkmail Support
Hello, A simple question or two (I hope) regarding release versions. A previous thread referred to release version 1.76i4 and 1.76i6. Also a reply from Scott provided a link to download a different interim release (1.76i7). How would I find out what specific interim release version I am

[Declude.JunkMail] Dial-ups

2003-10-15 Thread Don Brown
Scott, With regard to the headers below, 68.116.154.119 should not be considered by the dial-ups test, correct? It is failing, however. Do I have a config issue? DIALUPS ip4rdialups.visi.com Received: from remt24.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.34] by inetconcepts.net with ESMTP

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Dan Horne
The thing is, these messages have ALREADY been flagged as spam and are = in the hold directory. The receptionist, being heavy on the free-time, is = the one responsible for reviewing those held messages. That is why she = wants them deleted instead of being held. Regards, Dan Horne, CCNA Web

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Delete based on word filter!

2003-10-15 Thread Dan Horne
This is the best idea I have heard so far. I will suggest it to my superiors. Regards, Dan Horne, CCNA Web Services Administrator TAIS Web Wilcox World Travel Tours [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Versioning of interim releases

2003-10-15 Thread R. Scott Perry
A simple question or two (I hope) regarding release versions. A previous thread referred to release version 1.76i4 and 1.76i6. Also a reply from Scott provided a link to download a different interim release (1.76i7). How would I find out what specific interim release version I am running? I ran

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Dial-ups

2003-10-15 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
True, you do not get a trigger on the host that sent you the message (209.225.8.34) but the hop before it does trigger this DIALUPS test. You have your HOPHIGH set to at least 1... which isn't a bad thing but is more aggressive than you expected? Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: Don

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Dial-ups

2003-10-15 Thread R. Scott Perry
With regard to the headers below, 68.116.154.119 should not be considered by the dial-ups test, correct? It is failing, however. Do I have a config issue? DIALUPS ip4rdialups.visi.com The problem is that Declude JunkMail doesn't know that DIALUPS is a test that should only be

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Dial-ups

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem is that Declude JunkMail doesn't know that DIALUPS is a test that should only be checked against the first IP. The test name needs to have DUL or DYNA in it in order for Declude JunkMail to only run the test on

[Declude.JunkMail] Outlook 2003 file attachments

2003-10-15 Thread Markus Gufler
This is the list of file extensions that are configured in Outlook 2003 as Level1 (means: file can not be opened or saved to disk) Maybe someone can compare it with his current BANEXT list and add some new extensions. .ade Microsoft Access project extension .adp Microsoft Access project .app

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Dial-ups

2003-10-15 Thread R. Scott Perry
What about DUN, as in DNSRBL-DUN, and PDL? Do these test names need to be changed to DNSRBL-DULand PDL-DUL (or -DYNA)? It would be best to change them. We're going to look into this a bit more -- we just don't want to add something that shouldn't be added. If the people running the tests

[Declude.JunkMail] Outlook 2003 and external images

2003-10-15 Thread Markus Gufler
As I've seen the default setting in Outlook 2003 for HTML-Mails is to not load and display external images. The user have to right-click and request the image. Can we expect a change in spammer abitudines for the tipical no-text-and-only-images-spams? Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for

[Declude.JunkMail] PayPal filter

2003-10-15 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; Just in case you have not seen this.. a PayPal scam that we received today had the following URL. paypal-warning.net Everything is PayPal except this URL that is embedded in the form they want you to submit. You may want to filter on this URL. We may alsobr take

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Dial-ups

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about DUN, as in DNSRBL-DUN, and PDL? Do these test names need to be changed to DNSRBL-DULand PDL-DUL (or -DYNA)? It would be best to change them. We're going to look into this a bit more -- we just don't want to add

[Declude.JunkMail] Help - overflowing overflow

2003-10-15 Thread Dan Cummings
Hi, Have about 800 users on a decently powered Imail box running Declude 1.75. The system has been running great for months, but today I received reports of delayed mail and found the overflow folder growing (2000+ messages at present). When I test, I find that my messages from outside are

[Declude.JunkMail] Unknown Weight Assssignment

2003-10-15 Thread Wesley M
I have awarded the sniffer test a weight of 5, but I'm not sure were the higher weights are coming from. The global.cfg file shows only a weight of 5 for sniffer, and I don't have special user settings on my account. It doesn't appear like any other tests are failing based on the header of the

[Declude.JunkMail] Setting up Declude for gateway scanning and delivery

2003-10-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
I know this has been discussed before, and I think that I have it correct, however I just wanted to verify the setup required for this to work properly with Declude. I have an external domain soon to be configured with two MX records: mx1.external-domain.com mx2.external-domain.com I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - overflowing overflow

2003-10-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
Dan, Check your DNS settings. Your outgoing E-mail probably can't be resolved for external mail server addresses. Matt Dan Cummings wrote: Hi, Have about 800 users on a decently powered Imail box running Declude 1.75. The system has been running great for months, but today I received

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown Weight Assssignment

2003-10-15 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have awarded the sniffer test a weight of 5, but I'm not sure were the higher weights are coming from. The global.cfg file shows only a weight of 5 for sniffer, and I don't have special user settings on my account. It doesn't appear like any other tests are failing based on the header of

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Setting up Declude for gateway scanning and delivery

2003-10-15 Thread R. Scott Perry
Now the Declude part...I understand that I have to create a new $Default$.JunkMail file because it handles gatewayed E-mail as outgoing E-mail. To do this I have set up a version of this in the following location: C:/IMail/Declude/external-domain.com/$Default$.JunkMail Correct. Declude

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown Weight Assssignment

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Landry
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 62. The above is not the Sniffer weight, it the Sniffer category that the test failed (see http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/ResultCodesHelp.html). If you look in your log file, you will be able to see the actual weight applied. Bill