So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude
site and see what is up with Declude 4.
I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on
Imail.
Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus
Pro, Junkmail Pro and Hijaak).
Kevin's postmentions that Declude 3 will be
supported. Although long
I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would be for just
Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to purchase it alone.
Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for bundling/pricing
software.
~Ché
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I can tell you at $1450 a year for my Declude for Imail, isn't going to fly
very well here.
Ironically, one of the reasons I chose Declude in the beginning was the
lower maintenance cost.
The upfront cost was higher than the alternatives, but the ongoing price was
very affordable.
I belive
I'm starting to see the stock spammers coming in
with base64 encoding and jpeg files.
That'll be intesting to try to
block.
-Scott
FisherDirector of ITFarm Progress Companies191 S Gary AveCarol
Stream, IL 60188630-462-2323
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At that price we will be looking for alternatives.
Considering the cost of declude + sniffer puts us close to $2k.
At that price we have many other options and will explore them for sure.
H.
Scott Fisher wrote:
I can tell you at $1450 a year for my Declude for Imail, isn't going
to fly very
Yep. at that price it's time to move to
something else or build our own system.
Declude, come back with something reasonable or
you'll lose customers like IMail did.
Darin.
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From: Scott
Fisher
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006
Declude can't be serious. This pricing is ridiculous. We turned to Declude
because we needed an affordable anti-spam and virus solution. Declude is not
IPSwitch and should not strive to be IPSwitch. IPSwitch lost many customers
over its price restructuring and Declude will see the same thing if
Has anyone checked the service agreement page??
https://www.declude.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=22
Following the initial 12 month service and support period included in your
initial purchase of your Declude product, a Service Agreement extends the
support for a further year.
Michael Jaworski
I had similar complaints when Sniffer increased their price 50% overnight.
Sniffer's attitude was pretty much like it or lump it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Anton
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:53 AM
To:
It is not possible to purchase any of the 4.x components alone. They are
sold as one package. New sales will be the version 4 suite. If you currently
have the 3.x product you can stay with seperate components.
Kevin Bilbee
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[mailto:[EMAIL
Okay, that begs the question... can we buy the 3.x product alone?
(i.e. ICS vs. just Imail server?) I certainly hope so!
~Ché
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:24 PM
To:
I think we need to stop jumping to conclusions and wait for an official
response from Declude (which should have already happened.)
I have a feeling that the $1450 for a new license and not for a renewal SA.
If that is the case, some one from Declude needs to clarify this on the web
site stating
Title: Message
Would you be so kind as to post this
filter?
Thanks ahead of time
Rob
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
JovanovicSent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:33 AMTo:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo
Filter
FYI
Title: Message
Here you go
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS BYPASS
# Did it Fail CMDSPACE
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS CMDSPACE
# It failed CMDSPACE now check Sniffer
TESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS SNIFFER
Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Okay, let me re-ask... can existing customers *upgrade* to version 3.x?
~Ché
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:52 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4
John T (Lists) wrote:
I think we need to stop jumping to conclusions and wait for an official
response from Declude (which should have already happened.)
What?
No gossip and no drama?
I might as well just get a real job then :)
H.
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Call Declude sales and ask this list is not the authorative place to get
answers.
Kevin Bilbee
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:00 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE:
Should have said
Call Declude sales and ask this list is not the authorative place to get
answers on licensing.
Kevin Bilbee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:21 AM
To:
In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email
sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at
Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions:
* No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
* Our current customers can
Title: Message
You the Man!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
JovanovicSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:39 AMTo:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo
Filter
Here you
go
TESTSFAILED END
CONTAINS BYPASS
# Did it Fail
Barry,
I didn't get the E-mail that you mentioned.
I'm also wondering about what the terms are in 4.0 for new agreements.
The terminology changes from Service Agreements to Subscription.
Those things can have different meanings in this industry. A
Subscription suggests expiration of the
Sorry, Barry, not doubting you sent it, but didn't get the message here.
John C
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
Same here...
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From: John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Sorry, Barry, not doubting you sent it, but didn't get the message here.
John C
Got it on Tuesday...
Cavell McDermott
Network Administrator
Cottonwood Financial
972.753.0822 Office
214.403.4918 Cell
http://www.thecashstore.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:27 PM
To:
Title: Message
I like to run combos with Sniffer. It's very
effective to combine two high percentage spam tests.
I have 10 combo filters that include
Sniffer:
Sniffer and my internal IP blacklist
Sniffer and SBL
Sniffer and CBL
Sniffer and MailPolice Block
Sniffer and Spamcop
Sniffer and my
Are there any release notes for
3.0.5.26?
I saw it and can't find any mention of the changes
anywhere.
on 2/10/06 2:36 PM, mail-lists wrote:
Got it on Tuesday...
Same here.
Greg
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Same here too.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:27 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Same here...
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In our GLOBAL.CFG we make use of %COUNTRYCHAIN% to be placed in our headers.
We have several filters that use COUNTRIES
Are these 2 different?
Example of one failed email:
From the Declude Log:
02/10/2006 11:26:37 QDADA01EA87F1 Triggered COUNTRIES STARTSWITH filter
MN-HOTMAILSCAM on US
Dear Michael,
Starting this month product and pricing is changing to reflect the
structures used by SmarterMail and IMail. That is to say we are moving to a
Domain/User based structure that more accurately reflects the usage by our
customers. Other changes include:
- Product format - A single
Didn't get any notification here either.
Bill
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From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Barry,
I didn't get the E-mail that you mentioned.
I'm also
Hi Kevin,
I understand what you're saying- you believe Declude
4.0 is really just a"Declude 3.x Suite" vs. the Declude 3.x "legacy
products".New customers can only purchase the Suite, while old customers
will continue to upgrade their individual products. The code base is the
same.
In
Great! :-)
Only one feature to go!
I'm hoping the new SMTP Plus and POP Plus will enable Declude's Mailbox
Action to work.
Bill Green
dfn Systems
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Automatic Whitelisting per user from the recipient's Web Messaging
Address Book
- As far as I know, this has
In my conversation with Barry and with Smartermail support the mail box
action should now work. I have not tested it yet.
Kevin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Green dfn
Systems
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:29 PM
To:
I am
just regurgitatingwhat Barry told me over the phone.
Kevin
Bilbee
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Andy
SchmidtSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:19 PMTo:
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Hi Andy,
Like you, I didn't get the e-mail from Barry. I did do as Kevin suggested
in an earlier e-mail in this thread and called Barry. We had a very
pleasant conversation during which he explained everything to me and
answered all of my questions to my satisfaction.
It's too bad that so many
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