Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Microsoft Open License

2006-03-15 Thread Darin Cox
Hmmm? Why not? If it is a legal license (i.e. no restrictions on licensing transfer from the manufacturer), then this generally just voids any warrantees or support contracts. If the software works and you can support it yourself then again, why not? The same applies to hardware. We've

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread John T \(Lists\)
The MS DNS servers, are they Windows Server 2003? If so, have you researched the DNS issue and made the needed registry change on them? John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread Gary Steiner
How do I find that out? It is just an address that my hosting provider has given me. I have no control over or way to access the DNS server. Gary Original Message From: John T \(Lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:40 AM To:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Although others opinions may vary, you are better off using a cache only DNS server in-house for you mail server resolution. I do this on the Imail server itself. Speeds up resolution. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread Dave Doherty
Same here. It works very well for us. -d - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:20 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure Although others opinions may vary, you are better off using a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread Gary Steiner
That may speed up resolution, but that's not my issue. The question is why does SmarterMail catch the spam using the same ip4r tests? It is the same message, and the tests are being perfomed on the same eml file within a few seconds of each other. Why does Declude fail and SM succeed? Gary

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Smartermail probably is being more patient and has a longer DNS timing out period than declude. You should really run a cache only DNS directly on your mail server. It will speed your deliver time of your emails and catch more spam for you. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread John T \(Lists\)
I quite possibly is the issue. It has to do with response times. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:56 AM To:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
From a past problem I worked on we had very poor results with DNS blacklists on a mail server that I maintained. The customer I was working for was using a providers DNS server that was slow. We were able to determine that the first query always (well 99% of the time) timed out while a

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2006-03-15 Thread Marc Catuogno
I just got an e-mail asking me to update my info with a form attached: Dear Customer, We are currently in the process of updating our records here at Declude. We are aware that you have purchased product from us in the past and would greatly appreciate your response in

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread Matt
Gary, Let me confuse things a bit more here. I would recommend not using Windows DNS as your caching server if you are using Windows 2003. It enables something called EDNS0 by default and some servers won't resolve lookups and this will cause some resolution based tests to not operate and

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Matt, I think I know what that bug is but I am on a live meeting right now and I will look it up later. I think it has to do with the boot.ini file. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Matt, Is this true even if you manually set the reg key versus doing it with dnscmd? Darrell Matt writes: Gary, Let me confuse things a bit more here. I would recommend not using Windows DNS as your caching server if you are using Windows 2003. It enables something called EDNS0 by

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread Matt
enableednsprobes is set to 0 in my registries. I believe that the dnscmd /config /enableednsprobes 0 command is what sets this. For some reason though, when I reboot any of my servers, it stops resolving hosts that have issues with ENDS0 packets until I run that command again and restart the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread Rick Baranowski
I guess I am missing what the local DNS really has to do with the ip4r tests. The way I understand the ip4r filter is that Declude does a DSN lookup at lets say SPAMCOP at bl.spamcop.net for a response. It is waiting for a response from SPAMCOP not the configured local DNS server. If the SPAMCOP

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure

2006-03-15 Thread John T \(Lists\)
No, Declude nor the OS nor your workstation nor etc go out to the internet to fetch the information. They use the DNS server that they are configured for. That DNS server is responsible for responding to the requesting app with the information or a time out or does not exist. That DNS server is