Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-17 Thread Sheldon Koehler
Scott, Will adding 64.94.110.0/24 to the ipfile block these? BLACKLISTIP ipfile D:\IMail\Declude\ipfile.txt x 20 Sheldon Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com Ten Forward Communications 360-457-9023 Nationwide access, neighborhood support! Whenever you

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
Will adding 64.94.110.0/24 to the ipfile block these? BLACKLISTIP ipfile D:\IMail\Declude\ipfile.txt x 20 No. The problem is that the E-mail isn't *coming* from 64.94.110.11, the problem is that a response to the E-mail would be sent to 64.94.110.11.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-17 Thread Joshua Levitsky
On Sep 17, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Sheldon Koehler wrote: Scott, Will adding 64.94.110.0/24 to the ipfile block these? BLACKLISTIP ipfile D:\IMail\Declude\ipfile.txt x 20 Bill posted this in response to my posting about being able to use this... Below is the right hand side test you can use

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
False positives will come from users that misspell their domain name in their mail client. I have had that happen. There are also lots of forms being used on Web sites that take the user's input and construct a message using their address as the From in order to facilitate replies, and I can

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-17 Thread Joshua Levitsky
On Sep 17, 2003, at 2:59 PM, Matthew Bramble wrote: False positives will come from users that misspell their domain name in their mail client. I have had that happen. There are also lots of forms being used on Web sites that take the user's input and construct a message using their address

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-17 Thread Matthew Bramble
Since the address is bad, the bounce won't ever get to the sender. It's pretty unfortunate. I just had a client call the other week when I upgraded to a newer version of Declude which I think started catching the misspelling in MAILFROM where as it didn't before (if I recall the problem

[Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread R. Scott Perry
Just so people are aware, Network Solutions just hours ago made the dumb move of making all unregistered domains point to their web site. As a result, very little E-mail will fail the MAILFROM test in Declude JunkMail (only E-mail from addresses on recently expired domains, and domains not

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Keith Anderson
Seems like the easiest solution is to block all email from domains that resolve to 64.94.110.x The question is, how do we do this? (I'm still learning... sorry if this is a stupid question.) NS is going to make a lot of enemies doing this. Just so people are aware, Network Solutions just

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Todd Holt
Any more than they already have?? Its not a stupid move at all (if you NetSol). The make all of their money on the ignorance of newbies that just don't know any better. Once people realize what lyin', cheatin', stealin' scum they are...you get the idea. Do all of the unregistered domains

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
Good call Keith. I don't know what the proper address would be, but the following article says that it can be blocked: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/030915/internet_typos_1.html If you were correct, you would probably have to do this in your DNS server. Maybe set up reverse DNS for that block.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
Ignore my earlier reverse DNS thoughts, that doesn't make any sense :) I certainly have my moments. I think the article is also wrong by saying that DNS could be used to defeat this. I'm betting that providers like AOL are just simply configuring that block of addresses to point to their own

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Bill Landry
For now I've added: REVDNS 10 ENDSWITH sitefinder-idn.verisign.com to at least be able to add some weight to e-mail messages that use bogus domain names and resolve RDNS for 64.94.110.11 to sitefinder-idn.verisign.com. Bill - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Bill Landry
Oops, never mind, that's not going to work. Hmmm, back to the drawing board on this one... Bill - Original Message - From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Matthew Bramble
I think a better filter might be: BODY 100 CONTAINS verisign HEADERS 100 CONTAINS verisign HELO 100 CONTAINS verisign MAILFROM 100 CONTAINS verisign REMOTEIP 100 CONTAINS verisign REVDNS 100 CONTAINS verisign ALLRECIPS 100 CONTAINS verisign SUBJECT 100

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Bill Landry
Yep, that should certainly cover all of the bases! ;-) Actually, what we need is a hostname lookup filter: HOSTNAME-ADDR 25 IS 64.94.110.11 If the hostname resolves to 64.94.110.11, then add lots of weight to the message. Bill - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A slight increase in spam not getting caught thanks to Network Solutions

2003-09-15 Thread Bill Landry
Another good test for this would be a mail domain "A" recordlookup filter: MAILDOMAIN 25 IS 64.94.110.11 That, combined with the hostname "A" record lookup filter below, would take care of this stupid VeriSpam issue. Bill - Original Message - From: Bill Landry To: