RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-26 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem But Queuemanager is IMail, not Declude. Why would it run higher unless there was more load on the server (i.e. more messages being processed)? Darin. - Original Message - From: GlobalWeb.net Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-26 Thread Darin Cox
between IMail and Declude on 3.05.11? Declude? Darin. - Original Message - From: GlobalWeb.net Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Your guess is as good as mine

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2005-10-26 Thread Darin Cox
; this would cause an increase... Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:07 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem H... very strange. The only thing I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-26 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:34 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem I don't follow. How is declude dumping more mail for QM

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2005-10-26 Thread Andy Schmidt
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net Webmaster Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Simple - if declude waits 5 seconds for example for processing, and in this 5 seconds there are now 100 messages present, they get

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2005-10-26 Thread Matt
Darin Cox wrote: In picture form, we're looking at something like 80 | /\ /\ 40 | / \/ \ 0 |__/\_/\___ vs 80 | 40 | --- 0 |___/ \___ Interesting...mine looks like this though :) .::

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-26 Thread Darin Cox
for a picture... maybe saving a thousand words g. Darin. - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Darin, From following the thread he had

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2005-10-26 Thread David Barker
] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:06 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Is there any good reason why all of these various settings are not set up so that each message gets processed as it comes in - only limiting

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2005-10-26 Thread Travis Sullivan
Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Darin Cox wrote: In picture form, we're looking at something like 80 | /\ /\ 40 | / \/ \ 0

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2005-10-26 Thread Darin Cox
Wow... I think I need the specs on that environment... I must be doing something very wrong. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Darin Cox

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2005-10-26 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Simple - if declude waits 5 seconds for example for processing, and in this 5 seconds there are now 100 messages present, they get processed by declude and then dumped

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2005-10-26 Thread Darin Cox
usage. Darin. - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Darin, One thing to factor in is that when you have a large group of processes

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2005-10-26 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
. - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Darin, One thing to factor in is that when you have a large group of processes

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net Webmaster Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:16 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way down from

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2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way down from the 3.0.5.5 - but proc folder will accumulate approx 35-50 messages before it'll dump them to the work folder. Do not see any problems so far except

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread Keith Johnson
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:39 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Randy try changing WAITFORMAIL 1500 To WAITFORMAIL 500 See if that changes the delay

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2005-10-25 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
, 2005 7:16 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way down from the 3.0.5.5 - but proc folder will accumulate approx 35-50 messages before it'll dump them to the work folder. Do not see

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
://globalweb.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net Webmaster Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:13 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem I changed the THREADS to 75 and CPU wnet down to about

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2005-10-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net Webmaster Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:13 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem I changed the THREADS to 75 and CPU wnet down

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2005-10-25 Thread Dan Shadix
My sentiments exactly. Well said. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:33 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Okay, I'm watching

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2005-10-25 Thread Harry Vanderzand
: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:33 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Okay, I'm watching these discussions - as I'm still truly scared of upgrading Declude. I just can't figure out the logic behind all the CPU consumption and why certain process

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
25, 2005 02:53 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem I'm surely with you about this Andy. Already enough time spent dealing with adjusting filters to control spam and it seems by this list; more time is spent being a directory monitor and a bug reporter

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2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Allow me to make a correction - under normal daytime loads, we are seeing an increase in CPU - steady at 80-90%. Under 3.0.5.5 we saw an average of 40% Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions, Inc. 804-346-5300 x112 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112 http

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:01 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem David, Do you have an exhaustive explanation of what

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net Webmaster Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:12 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem I've changed WAITFORMAIL to 500 and this seemed to help a bit more. I am still seeing a collection of about 50 messages before

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
Decludeproc and queuemgr Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Randy, Can you confirm for me

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2005-10-25 Thread Darin Cox
the Declude upgrade? Darin. - Original Message - From: GlobalWeb.net Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:32 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Decludeproc and queuemgr Randy -Original Message- From

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:53 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Hmmm... if queuemanager CPU is increasing, then that would point to more messages being processed, wouldn't

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:33 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Okay, I'm watching these discussions - as I'm still truly scared of upgrading Declude. I just can't figure out the logic behind all the CPU consumption and why certain

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread Harry Vanderzand
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:14 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Andy, don't be scared I can hold you hand :) How do I explain the apparent inconsistency

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2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:53 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem I'm surely with you about this Andy. Already enough time spent dealing

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2005-10-25 Thread Darin Cox
, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem No change in message load - I randomly picked approx 7pm yesterday to upgrade. Decludeproc service ran at a lower CPU at version 3.0.5.5 Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web Solutions, Inc. 804-346-5300 x112 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112

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2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Vanderzand Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:00 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem It seems to me that something changed

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2005-10-25 Thread Travis Sullivan
/webmessaging. Perhaps that will help them see your problem clearer. Travis - Original Message - From: Harry Vanderzand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:29 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem I have repeatedly switch back

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2005-10-25 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
4:26 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Hmmm? You said queuemanager increased CPU usage as well. Were you just meaning that only decludeproc and queuemanager were using CPU on the server? Darin. - Original Message - From: GlobalWeb.net

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:45 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Can you give me an idea of the CPU % of each of these? I know

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2005-10-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Andy, don't be scared I can hold you hand :) How do I explain the apparent inconsistency where users report that the CPU consumption is considerable higher than in the prior version? First we need to confirm that it is decludeproc that has

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2005-10-25 Thread Darin Cox
:40 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Decludeproc runs at a higher CPU with v11 as compared to v5 - queuemgr also runs a it higher. These 2 services are the ones that most consumes CPU with v11 Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

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2005-10-24 Thread Harry Vanderzand
: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Interesting ... .11 is working for me better than any previous version -- proc and work are quickly cleared. What process is jumping the CPU up so high? Decludeproc or the anti

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2005-10-24 Thread David Barker
Support' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram imail 8.05 declude, sniffer invurbl The issue is that without changing anything other than going to 3.05.11 this occurs It appears that processing has changed If I could get some idea from Declude about this. Maybe I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-24 Thread Harry Vanderzand
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Harry, try commenting out #waitforthreads 1500 #waitbetweenthreads 100 David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Vanderzand Sent: Monday

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2005-10-24 Thread David Barker
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Someone correct me, but with 3.4GHz couldn't you try THREADS 150 and back down from there if needed? Wouldn't that help some? From http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=167 Performance can vary due to server configuration, CPU

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2005-10-24 Thread John Carter
Duh, I failed 1st grade math. Try THREADS 75. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Someone correct me

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2005-10-24 Thread Harry Vanderzand
, ON,N2M 1L2 519-741-1222 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Someone correct me, but with 3.4GHz couldn't

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2005-10-24 Thread Harry Vanderzand
Of David Barker Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:40 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Yes, again the ideal is that the CPU usage bounces, So you could start at 150 then if it pegged at 100% CPU try 125 etc. David B www.declude.com

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2005-10-24 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
Of Harry Vanderzand Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Cc: 'Technical Support' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram imail 8.05 declude, sniffer invurbl The issue is that without changing anything other than going to 3.05.11