RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-08 Thread Kami Razvan
:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action Kami Razvan wrote: I have spent a lot of my years in the field of mathematics. A study done a while back and it is related to data-mining stated.. men buy baby diapers and orange juice on Tuesdays more than any

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-08 Thread Matthew Bramble
] Declude not taking action Kami Razvan wrote: I have spent a lot of my years in the field of mathematics. A study done a while back and it is related to data-mining stated.. men buy baby diapers and orange juice on Tuesdays more than any other day of the week. Sure it's useful

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-08 Thread Matthew Bramble
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 4:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action I did some math related to my machine assuming 1/5 of a second window for this bug

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-08 Thread Matthew Bramble
the headers of the copy that Imail delivered\stole have any Declude markings in the header? -Original Message- From: Matthew Bramble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action Dave

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-08 Thread Kami Razvan
Dave Marchette wrote: Gotcha. But do the headers of the copy that Imail delivered\stole have any Declude markings in the header? === Hi again.. This is another one I just noticed. Received: from 69.0.99.172.adsl.snet.net [69.0.99.172] by

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
- In our configuration we do all the IP4r tests in IMail and add header for Declude to analyze. It is as if IMail never added the headers.. Since none are there. Could it be that IMail somehow skips its own spam test? Should we not expect if IMail has done all that it was to do the headers

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-07 Thread Kami Razvan
I figure that each individual E-mail on my system has about a 0.6% chance of being stolen and delivered by the queue. Matt: I have spent a lot of my years in the field of mathematics. A study done a while back and it is related to data-mining stated.. men buy baby diapers and orange juice

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-07 Thread Dave Marchette
, 2003 1:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action I figure that each individual E-mail on my system has about a 0.6% chance of being stolen and delivered by the queue. Matt: I have spent a lot of my years in the field of mathematics. A study done

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-07 Thread Eje Gustafsson
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-07 Thread Matthew Bramble
Kami Razvan wrote: I have spent a lot of my years in the field of mathematics. A study done a while back and it is related to data-mining stated.. men buy baby diapers and orange juice on Tuesdays more than any other day of the week. Sure it's useful, what it says is that there is something

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-07 Thread Matthew Bramble
Dave, It appears that the E-mail getting delivered improperly is the result of IMail stealing a copy and processing it apart from Declude. In the example that I provided, Declude deleted the copy that it got because it scored too high, but IMail delivered a copy before it was scanned by

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-07 Thread Dave Marchette
Gotcha. But do the headers of the copy that Imail delivered\stole have any Declude markings in the header? -Original Message- From: Matthew Bramble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-07 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action Dave, It appears that the E-mail getting delivered improperly is the result of IMail stealing a copy

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-07 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 4:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action I did some math related to my machine assuming 1/5 of a second window

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action This issue has really gotten my attention since one of the 0.1% of messages not scanned happened to have a virus attachment

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action, IMail 7.15 H2 with Declude 1.76i30 H2 with Declude 1.76i30 Declude 1.76i30 H2 with Declude 1.76i30 Declude 1.76i30 H2 with Declude 1.76i30 Well, I was really hoping it would have been a Declude problem

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action Scott, since my own server only gets about 4000 messages per day, is there any testing or logging I can do that will help track

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott, since my own server only gets about 4000 messages per day, is there any testing or logging I can do that will help track this down? We've already tracked it down about as far as it can go. IMail's process that handles the queue run is processing E-mails between the time that they are

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread R. Scott Perry
We've already tracked it down about as far as it can go. IMail's process that handles the queue run is processing E-mails between the time that they are saved to the hard drive (or unlocked) by the SMTPD process and the time that Declude is able to re-lock the files. We are trying to think

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread Dave Marchette
? -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action We've already tracked it down about as far as it can go. IMail's process that handles the queue run

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action We've already tracked it down about as far as it can go. IMail's process that handles the queue run is processing E-mails between the time

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread R. Scott Perry
In the mean time, until Ipswitch fixes this, is it safe to assume that the chance incident of failure can be reduced by some percentage by utilizing a monstrously overrated processor for a given volume of mail? -- Processor power up, chance of failure down, perhaps dramatically? Yes. The

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott, I take it you are passing this information on to them? Or do you want me to forward to them under the incident I have open? Anyone who is having this problem is welcome to forward the information to Ipswitch. Ipswitch doesn't have an official line of communication with developers, and

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread Kami Razvan
: Saturday, December 06, 2003 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action In the mean time, until Ipswitch fixes this, is it safe to assume that the chance incident of failure can be reduced by some percentage by utilizing a monstrously overrated processor

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread Kami Razvan
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action In the mean time, until Ipswitch fixes this, is it safe to assume that the chance incident of failure can

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread R. Scott Perry
I am not sure about this.. Our server load is quite small... Maximum 2000 emails a day. Our server is a Compaq quad 550 MHz and about 1.2 GB or RAM. One just can't expect to need more power for such a small volume of email? I'm not saying that you should increase the CPU power of the server --

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread Keith Johnson
Although this is not the same issue as Declude not getting called, I did want to bring it to everyones attention. For those of you that Store and Forward to other email servers, Imail 8.04 is having issues with removing body text from emails on the smtp rdeliver action to a remote server. I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread George Kulman
Keith, Thanks. I hadn't seen it but I'll be on the lookout now. George -Original Message- From: Keith Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 2:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread Bill Landry
Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action One more thing, is there a way (Bill) of (1st) comparing the c:\declude.log for unique IDs to say the virus log

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action John, yes, this can be done. But, if you are running the latest beta, nothing will be written to the declude.log file. However, if you are still running one of the latest pre-beta interim releases, and still want to track this, let

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action, IMail 7.15 H2 with Declude 1.76i30 H2 with Declude 1.76i30

2003-12-06 Thread Keith Anderson
We're still running 7.07 here. We're not seeing any of the problems you're referring to in this version, so I think the bugs very likely started in the next major release 7.10, which had problems on our server. This is getting scary. It looks like there is a serious bug in IMail v7 and v8

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action

2003-12-06 Thread Matthew Bramble
I did some math related to my machine assuming 1/5 of a second window for this bug to appear, and on 5,000 E-mails a day, and 24 runs of the queue. I figured that on average, this would only happen once every 360 days. It's actually quite remarkable that this was caught, and I can see why

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude not taking action, IMail 7.15 H2 with Declude 1.76i30 H2 with Declude 1.76i30 Declude 1.76i30 H2 with Declude 1.76i30

2003-12-05 Thread Matthew Bramble
Well, I was really hoping it would have been a Declude problem...that way it probably would have been fixed in days as opposed to requiring me to get an upgrade to IMail 8 for them to fix the issue. I'm going to reduce my queue from running every 15 minutes to every hour just to lessen the