RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question

2004-04-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Goran, yes, if you set a HOLD action, the weight is irrelevant in the example you cited. In a more complicated example, you'd have to check the precedence of actions listed in the manual. Why? Well, you might also have a WHITELIST action, or a WEIGHT action for a high value that does a DELETE.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per-Domain Config

2004-04-19 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
What I have done is create a set of base files as such: GlobalHeader.txt GlobalTests.txt JMFilterActions.txt JMDNSActions.txt JMExternal.txt JMWeights.txt When I need to add a test or make a global change, I change the appropriate base file Then, I have a script that adds the appropriate files tog

[Declude.JunkMail] Per-Domain Config

2004-04-19 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Scott, I am starting to see a maintenance issue with the way I am doing things. I want to have per-domain config files primarily so that I can white and black list separately. Now when I setup a new test I have to go in through each domain's $default$.junkmail file and add the test with the actio

[Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question

2004-04-19 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi, If you are trying out a new test and are not sure what it is going to do you set the WEIGHT of that test to 0 and then monitor it. One way would be to use a HOLD action on that test. My question is if the WEIGHT was not set to 0 but say 10 and the action is HOLD will the e-mail be held regar

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blocking on attachment name

2004-04-19 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Scott, If you have both JunkMail and Virus are you able to block/delete an incoming mail message if the attachment had a virus? Actually do you need JunkMail at all in this condition? Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://ww

[Declude.JunkMail] Strange loop, actions skipped

2004-04-19 Thread Matt
Scott, I'm very confused by what's happening with the following message apart from it looping 5 times and getting killed.  The original scored 36 points, which on my system would get it to ROUTETO a sub-mailbox on my own domain and the subject should have shown the weight in square brackets, a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Scripting batch files

2004-04-19 Thread Adrian Hauri
Try blat as a win32 command line mailer. It supports attachements and runs very stable: http://sourceforge.net/projects/blat Adrian - - Original Message - From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 19, 20

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamc32 installation

2004-04-19 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: "Markus Gufler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > bash-2.05b$ cpan > bash: cpan: command not found > > Markus, I haven't used Spamc32, but when I want to connect to CPAN from my Linux servers this is the command syntax I use: perl -MCPAN -e shell HTH, Bill ---

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Feature request possibility

2004-04-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
How about an option where Declude Junkmail would de-space and de-punctuate the subject and then we could apply a filter on the results. In theory, the subject line would be parsed removing all characters other than a-z, A-Z and 0-9 and foreign alphabetical characters. We could then apply a fil

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Matt
David (and Bud), An exception could probably be made for proper usage of the IP being used as the HELO (when enclosed in brackets). Also, a while back in an effort to reduce the processing power required for my @LINKED and IPLINKED filters, I removed all of the IP space that was reserved which

[Declude.JunkMail] Feature request possibility

2004-04-19 Thread Scott Fisher
How about an option where Declude Junkmail would de-space and de-punctuate the subject and then we could apply a filter on the results. In theory, the subject line would be parsed removing all characters other than a-z, A-Z and 0-9 and foreign alphabetical characters. We could then apply a filt

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] NOTENDSWITH problem

2004-04-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
My humble opinion on terminology, Scott, is that: "fixed in the next build" would better reflect what you meant. Otherwise us folks out here in the list start to wonder whether you mean "release" or "Release". Just another tip for the Declude communications style book. Andrew 8) -Original

[Declude.JunkMail] Spamc32 installation

2004-04-19 Thread Markus Gufler
After installing the latest release of cygwin (1.5.9-1) I can open the command prompt but I cant start "cpan" I've tried: bash-2.05b$ ls egrep egrep Ok, egrep is in the current directory bash-2.05b$ egrep Usage: egrep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... Try

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blocking on attachment name

2004-04-19 Thread Darin Cox
Matt has a file size filter that he has generously contributed to the community...you should be able to find it easily in the archives. For filename, use BANEXT in Declude Virus. I don't believe there is a combined test, but you could structure your weighting as a binary system (result of 1 for o

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blocking on attachment name

2004-04-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have DJM Pro, not the AV. I want to block emails with specific attachments in DJM. Unfortunately, Declude Virus is necessary to properly block attachments (since attachment names/extensions can indicate security risks, whereas they are not yet indicative of spam). You could try writing a fi

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blocking on attachment name

2004-04-19 Thread Todd Hunter
Scott, I have DJM Pro, not the AV. I want to block emails with specific attachments in DJM. Thanks, Todd At 04:06 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote: For Declude Virus BANNAME fileattachment.ext example: BANNAME deleted0.txt I know it came up that file names with spaces weren't being blocked

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread David Dresler
Below is an example of headers taken from a false positive using this new test. For the most part, its a great new test and is working well. However, i've noticed that Entourage seems to be getting caught. This is the second customer of mine that i've noticed getting caught by this and both are u

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS - Netscape.com

2004-04-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message What, Matt, you get anal about your work!?   Don't worry, I won't make you the butt of any jokes.   Andrew 8) -Original Message-From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:47 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] S

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOTENDSWITH problem

2004-04-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
Just for curiosity's sake, what does fixed in the next release mean? If something is referred to as fixed, that means that we have changed the code to fix it, and any future interim/beta/release will have the change in it. Fixed in the next alpha interim release or fixed in the next beta release

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOTENDSWITH problem

2004-04-19 Thread Scott Fisher
Just for curiosity's sake, what does fixed in the next release mean? Fixed in the next alpha interim release or fixed in the next beta release? It's tough to know since unless there is big news, we don't know what changes there are in the interim releases. I'm not pushing the fix, I've done a wo

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blocking on attachment name

2004-04-19 Thread Scott Fisher
For Declude Virus BANNAME fileattachment.ext example: BANNAME deleted0.txt I know it came up that file names with spaces weren't being blocked properly. I don't know if Scott had fixed that yet. Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/19/04 03:27PM >>> I wa

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS - Netscape.com

2004-04-19 Thread Matt
Oops, sorry.  I'm not sure about netscape.com, but E-mail from that domain has been quite rare in the past since they don't have hardly any employees, and even if you had their primary reverse DNS entries, it's quite possible that they send out as netscape.com from third-parties just like syman

[Declude.JunkMail] Blocking on attachment name

2004-04-19 Thread Todd Hunter
I want to hold email that has an attachment with a given file name. I know the exact file name and size. It seems like a saw some posts about this in the past but searches of my archived Declude folder didn't come up with anything. Thank, Todd Hunter --- [This E-mail was scanned for viru

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Bud Durland
Glenn Brooks wrote: Will Heloisp run on NT ...I do not see any activity in task manager or in the declude logslog level MID It should run on NT just fine, although I couldn't test it on that platform. No surprise that it's not on the task manager -- it does it's thing very quickly an pro

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS - Netscape.com

2004-04-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Well, Matt, that's a great example for Netscape.net, but Jeff was asking about Netscape.com So I guess to round out the conversation, here's the two entries in spamdomains that everybody seems to have, to cover Netscape.net: aol.com netscape.net netscape.netaol.com I'm pretty sure th

[Declude.JunkMail] Phishing...

2004-04-19 Thread Doug Anderson
> 'Phishing' scams luring more users > By Munir Kotadia > > Security firm MessageLabs says the number of e-mails that use the deceptive tactic has increased from 279 to 215,643 over the past six months. > > http://news.com.com/2100-7355-5194807.html?tag=sas.email > > ---

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS - Netscape.com

2004-04-19 Thread Matt
Andrew and Jeff, Unfortunately Netscape.net is actually handled by aol.com when it is outgoing (which is what matters in this case). I sometimes search my known good E-mail for outgoing servers, or Google for it by looking for header code along with the address and keeping in mind that a lot o

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS - Netscape.com

2004-04-19 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Ok.. Makes sense.. Thanks.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:29 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS - Netscape.com Jeff, the main problem with figuring out

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS - Netscape.com

2004-04-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Jeff, the main problem with figuring out spamdomains entries is that you really have to receive valid mail from the domain to really know. If they have an SPF record, that's the easiest way to research them, but you can also try the website at http://www.SenderBase.org to see what they've noticed.

[Declude.JunkMail] Blackholes.us Resolution Problems

2004-04-19 Thread Don Brown
To save some trouble shooting time, see below <==Original message text===> On Apr 19, 2004, at 7:29 AM, Don Brown wrote: > Are you having issues with your DNS servers or are you getting DOS'ed? > We have noticed several connection failures in our log, starting > yesterday m

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Jason
Don't know about NT4, but we are running it on Win2k using log level low and it is working well. I don't see it come up in the task manager either, but it is running. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brooks Sent: Monday, Apr

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Glenn Brooks
Will Heloisp run on NT ...I do not see any activity in task manager or in the declude logslog level MID At 01:57 PM 4/19/2004 -0400, you wrote: You should be fine as long as you don't do matches on numbers below 20, or at least that is my experience. I'm thinking that you created this ex

[Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS - Netscape.com

2004-04-19 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Hello, I got a message that was "from" [EMAIL PROTECTED] but came from RoadRunners networks. There isn't a netscape entry in my SPAMDOMAINS.TXT file. I was just wondering what I would enter to make it so. I did a NSLOOKUP on netscape.com and the MX record points to mail.nescape.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Matt
You should be fine as long as you don't do matches on numbers below 20, or at least that is my experience. I'm thinking that you created this exception in order to head off that problem. Minimally it's worth a try. Matt Bud Durland wrote: Jason wrote: These headers didn't trigger the HELOIS

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Bud Durland
Jason wrote: These headers didn't trigger the HELOISIP test. It looks to me like they should have. Any Ideas? Received: from adsl-63-202-107-44.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.202.107.44] by areatech.com (SMTPD32-7.14) id A37557AB0118; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:42:45 -0500 Because of the 'lsan03', the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Making stuff do what it's not supposed to

2004-04-19 Thread Timm Jasper
Thanks for beaming me the info Scotty :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Making stuff do what it's not supposed to >Using existing

RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Markus Gufler
Sandy, already awake? I've tried to configure spamc32. After installing cygwin under c:\cygwin your readme states to open a DOS prompt, cd \cygwin\bin and type cygwin. This wouldn't work with cygwin 1.5.9-1 In can find a cygwin.bat on c:\cygwin Starting this batch I can see a unix like command

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Making stuff do what it's not supposed to

2004-04-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
Using existing methods in Imail and Declude, is there any way to get the revdns info to show on the from: or the subj: line? I had someone ask, didn't know and I did not see it in the archives, and said I would try to find out. I believe that you could use: CATCHALLMAILS SUBJECT [%REVDNS%] to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Jason
These headers didn't trigger the HELOISIP test. It looks to me like they should have. Any Ideas? Received: from adsl-63-202-107-44.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.202.107.44] by areatech.com (SMTPD32-7.14) id A37557AB0118; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:42:45 -0500 Received: from iowiekwaoakkwjehckckw.com

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Scripting batch files

2004-04-19 Thread Jason
Responding to my own post: Here is the final batch file with date scripting included. It is probably too basic, but if anyone can use it here it is: for /F "tokens=1-4 delims=/- " %%A in ('date/T') do wamlog c:\imail\spool\dec%%B%%C.log >> Stats.txt imail1 -s Daily Spam Stats -f Stats.txt -t [E

[Declude.JunkMail] Making stuff do what it's not supposed to

2004-04-19 Thread Timm Jasper
Using existing methods in Imail and Declude, is there any way to get the revdns info to show on the from: or the subj: line? I had someone ask, didn't know and I did not see it in the archives, and said I would try to find out. So ... ~~ ~ Timm Jasper

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.CFG file for separate domains

2004-04-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
I was wondering if it's possible with the standard version to create a Global.cfg file or that type of file (whitelist and other configs) for separate domains (like the $default$.junkmail file).. Thanks.. No, the settings in the global.cfg file are global settings, and cannot be used on

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains.txt file

2004-04-19 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Here's the spamdomains.txt file I received off-list (for our setup, I left out the outblaze domains).. Don't forget to add the needed entries to the Global.cfg file and the $default$.junkmail files (see below).. Global.cfg _ SPAMDOMAINS

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains.txt file

2004-04-19 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
I'd post the one I received off list, but am not sure if the original person who sent it to me would like if I did.. I'll contact them and see if it would be ok.. Just don't want to make anyone angry.. I'm sure they won't care, but it would stink to post it and then have them come back bitchin'

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOTENDSWITH problem

2004-04-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
My favorite new filter has been the NOTENDSWITH... But I've found a problem. COUNTRY 5 NOTENDSWITH US Using the above line, every country including the US gets five points. It seems that there is an issue with the code where NOTENDSWITH will not work properly if the length of

[Declude.JunkMail] Global.CFG file for separate domains

2004-04-19 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Hello, I was wondering if it's possible with the standard version to create a Global.cfg file or that type of file (whitelist and other configs) for separate domains (like the $default$.junkmail file).. Thanks.. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declud

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains.txt file

2004-04-19 Thread declude
Me too! Kevin -- Original Message -- From: "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:09:27 -0700 >Me three. ;) > >John Tolmachoff >Engineer/Consultant/Owner >eServices For You > >> -Original

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SBL-XBL Question

2004-04-19 Thread Scott Fisher
Many thanks, I couldn't find that info anywhere (else). Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16/04 05:33PM >>> Not surprising that you missed this one, based on the subject line: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17684.html Sorry if this h

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains.txt file

2004-04-19 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Me three. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Hogue > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sp

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains.txt file

2004-04-19 Thread Scott Fisher
I have 3 different Spamdomains.txt weights. Outblaze, mail2world, and everyone.net domain's get 15 points (tag at 20, hold at 35) Strong spamdomains get 10 points (rare false positives, MX servers with only one domain name). Weak spamdomains get 7 points (domains more likely to false positive, MX

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains.txt file

2004-04-19 Thread Rick Hogue
Me too. Rick Hogue www.intent.net Web Hosting 1-800-866-2983 www.prosperity.com Featured web site -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug McKee Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] S

[Declude.JunkMail] NOTENDSWITH problem

2004-04-19 Thread Scott Fisher
My favorite new filter has been the NOTENDSWITH... But I've found a problem. COUNTRY 5 NOTENDSWITH US Using the above line, every country including the US gets five points. May I also suggest a NOIS filter test? Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies --- [This

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains.txt file

2004-04-19 Thread Doug McKee
Me too, Thanks, Doug -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains.txt file Todd, Would you mind sending me a copy of the spamdomain.tx

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Bud Durland
Matt wrote: I have a few suggestions that you might want to consider. The first one would be to skip processing of the message and just have Declude pass off the HELO as an argument to your script. This can be done with %HELO%. This will speed processing and ensure that the HELO comes in the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains.txt file

2004-04-19 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Todd, Would you mind sending me a copy of the spamdomain.txt file as well? I would like to see what you have as a starting point. Thanx Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf O

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Ignore all tests

2004-04-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
Is there a way to IGNORE all tests on outbound customer mail. Outgoing actions are determined by the settings in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file. If you set all the actions in that file to IGNORE, then no action will be taken on outgoing E-mail.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains.txt file

2004-04-19 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Thanks.. I've received a couple so far, so if you don't wish to send it, it's ok.. But I do have another question for the list.. Pretty much the entries for Global.CFG and the junkmail config for the spamdomains tests.. Which weight seems to work best, etc. This weekend, I've seen A LOT of spam

[Declude.JunkMail] Ignore all tests

2004-04-19 Thread Richard Farris
Is there a way to IGNORE all tests on outbound customer mail. Richard Farris Ethixs Online 1.270.247. Office 1.800.548.3877 Tech Support --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To uns

Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Mark vs Hold vs Delete

2004-04-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> Sandy, I thought you were an east-coaster...you should get some sleep! > Right you are. Actually, I'm supposed to be coding, but it's so easy to get distracted... --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Inte

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Mark vs Hold vs Delete

2004-04-19 Thread Darin Cox
Sandy, I thought you were an east-coaster...you should get some sleep! Darin. - Original Message - From: "Sanford Whiteman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:43 AM Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Mark vs Hold vs Delete > First, if yo

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Mark vs Hold vs Delete

2004-04-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> First, if you read my original post, I used two examples to show how > spam patterns can be very different based on the type of domain not > knowing what sort of traffic Goran was seeing and how he might > modify his approach. Do you mean where you say-- > Domains used exclusively f

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> The only thing I fear, is that as soon as SA will have such a rule > spammers will immediatly rewrite their SW (or bether said email > worms) and don't use anymore IP-like HELO strings. This would be reasonable if it were in the standard SA distro, but I'm talking about community shari

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-19 Thread Markus Gufler
> ... when > many of the tests could be wrapped by SpamAssassin custom > rules ... The only thing I fear, is that as soon as SA will have such a rule spammers will immediatly rewrite their SW (or bether said email worms) and don't use anymore IP-like HELO strings. Markus --- [This E-mail

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Scripting batch files

2004-04-19 Thread Jason
Hello everyone. I have created a batch file that runs Bill's log analyzer that was made available last week. What I would like to do is have the DOS batch file e-mail this each night at midnight using the previous days declude log file. I do not know much about date scripting in DOS batch file