Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What seems to work better for others?

2004-07-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

It seems that more smaller ones are easier to manage using categories. But
what uses less CPU/Memory usage?
Which way is faster?
Fewer larger files are slightly faster, but the difference is not likely to 
be noticed.

So my question is the same as asked previous (listed below) but  also, 
would it be better to simply use headers filter versus mailfrom and 
helo.or does it not matter?
MAILFROM and HELO will be quicker than HEADERS, since Declude JunkMail only 
needs to check a small portion of information, rather than all the headers.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CORRUPTEDVIRUS v1.0.0

2004-07-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

This results in a zero-byte attachment and it will always get past 
Declude Virus, even if it has one of the commonly banned extensions 
associated with viruses (unless this has been addressed in a more recent 
interim that I'm not aware of ).

I haven't hit a single file as yet with this filter.  It may be that this 
was in fact fixed with a more recent version of Declude Virus ...
FWIW, I can't recall any issue where the size of a file (even 0-byte) will 
prevent Declude Virus from banning the file based on the extension.  Of 
course, a 0-byte file won't be blocked by the virus scanner (since it can't 
contain a virus), but Declude Virus should block it as expected.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issues

2004-07-20 Thread Dave Doherty
Thanks to Darin and Sandy.

-d

- Original Message - 
From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issues


 I believe the consensus has been that SPF Pass is not good to use in
 negative weighting, but SPF Fail helps.  If nothing else, we catch a good
 bit of spam and viruses that forge our email addresses by using SPF.  As
it
 gets more widely adopted, it will help more.  There is still the drawback
 for weak SPF criteria for those who may send through alternate ISP mail
 servers, though.

 Darin.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 4:36 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issues


 1) Now that AOL passes SPF, I'm getting more junk from them. So I lowered
 SPFPass to -3 to offset AOL's normal failure of noabuse (1) and
nopostmaster
 (2).

 2) We're starting to see real spammers passing SPF. So now I'm thinking of
 dropping SPFPASS altogether, and using SPFFAIL to help identify spoofs.

 Has anybody else done this? What are you all seeing with SPF?

 -Dave Doherty
  Skywaves, Inc.



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issues

2004-07-20 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
If nothing else, we catch a good bit of spam and viruses that forge our
email addresses by using SPF.


I have found, that so, far, the BEST usage for SPF, as stated above, is that
it's catching spam that has spoofed my own domain's address.

Sharyn


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CORRUPTEDVIRUS v1.0.0

2004-07-20 Thread Markus Gufler

 FWIW, I can't recall any issue where the size of a file (even 
 0-byte) will prevent Declude Virus from banning the file 
 based on the extension.  Of course, a 0-byte file won't be 
 blocked by the virus scanner (since it can't contain a 
 virus), but Declude Virus should block it as expected.

Some of our customers today received messages containing a (encrypted?) zip
file with no files inside.
The body contains something like Password: 12345

I've forwarded one of this message to the virustrap address.

As it doesn't contain any viral code it's not so problematic, but it creates
a lot of doubt's on customer side if our mailboxes are realy protected.

Markus


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CORRUPTEDVIRUS v1.0.0

2004-07-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

Some of our customers today received messages containing a (encrypted?) zip
file with no files inside.
The body contains something like Password: 12345
As it doesn't contain any viral code it's not so problematic, but it creates
a lot of doubt's on customer side if our mailboxes are realy protected.
Unfortunately, there is little that can be done about attachments that 
appear to be viruses but are not.  That's something that filters in Declude 
JunkMail would probably handle best.

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[Declude.JunkMail] misconfiguration in following line

2004-07-20 Thread Kevin Shimwell
Im getting this error in my logs
07/20/2004 00:01:19  Warning: misconfiguration in following line in 
configuration file (filter is not an ACTION). May be a duplicate test 
definition?

Is this causing this error?
Config
IPLINKED filter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\IPLinked.txt x 
3   0
IPLINKED filter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\IPLinked-lite.txtx 
3   0
#MYFILTER  filter   E:\Imail\Declude\Filters\myfilter.txt  x   2
KILLFROM   fromfile E:\imail\declude\Filters\fromfile.txt   x   10
SUBJECTFILTER  fromfile E:\Imail\Declude\Filters\Subjectfilter.txt x   8   0
BODYFILTER  fromfile E:\Imail\Declude\Filters\bodyfilter.txt x   2 0
GIBBERISHfilter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Gibberish.txtx 
6   0
ANTI-GIBBERISH   filter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Anti-Gibberish.txt   x 
-6   0


$default$
SPAMHEADERS WARN
GIBBERISH  WARN
ANTI-GIBBERISH  WARN
IPLINKED warn
# MYFILTER alert
SubjectFilter warn
#BodyFilter warn
KILLFROM  delete
Kevin Shimwell
Link Brokers Group, LLC  ( Support )
1600 Hwy 17 South
North Myrtle Beach, SC 29582
Phone: 843-663-1004
Fax: 843-663-1007
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
24/7 
Support 
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Support M-F  1-888-546-5631

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] misconfiguration in following line

2004-07-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

Im getting this error in my logs
07/20/2004 00:01:19  Warning: misconfiguration in following line in 
configuration file (filter is not an ACTION). May be a duplicate test 
definition?

Is this causing this error?
Yes, it is:
IPLINKED filter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\IPLinked.txt x 
3   0
The first occurrence of any test name (IPLINKED in this case) defines the 
test.  A subsequent line with the same test name determines the action to 
take on outgoing E-mails failing the test.

So this line is fine.  But:
IPLINKED filter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\IPLinked-lite.txtx 
3   0
This next line isn't fine.  It is telling Declude JunkMail that if an 
outgoing E-mail fails the IPLINKED test, Declude JunkMail should use the 
FILTER action -- but that isn't an action that Declude JunkMail knows about.

So if you delete one of those lines, or rename the test in one of them, you 
should be all set.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] misconfiguration in following line

2004-07-20 Thread Scott Fisher
2 tests with same name:
Rename one.

IPLINKED filter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\IPLinked.txt x 
3   0
IPLINKED filter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\IPLinked-lite.txtx 
3   0

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

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Im getting this error in my logs
07/20/2004 00:01:19  Warning: misconfiguration in following line in 
configuration file (filter is not an ACTION). May be a duplicate test 
definition?

Is this causing this error?

Config

IPLINKED filter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\IPLinked.txt x 
3   0
IPLINKED filter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\IPLinked-lite.txtx 
3   0
#MYFILTER  filter   E:\Imail\Declude\Filters\myfilter.txt  x   2
KILLFROM   fromfile E:\imail\declude\Filters\fromfile.txt   x   10
SUBJECTFILTER  fromfile E:\Imail\Declude\Filters\Subjectfilter.txt x   8   0
BODYFILTER  fromfile E:\Imail\Declude\Filters\bodyfilter.txt x   2 0
GIBBERISHfilter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Gibberish.txtx 
6   0
ANTI-GIBBERISH   filter   E:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Anti-Gibberish.txt   x 
-6   0



$default$
SPAMHEADERS WARN
GIBBERISH  WARN
ANTI-GIBBERISH  WARN
IPLINKED warn
# MYFILTER alert
SubjectFilter warn
#BodyFilter warn
KILLFROM  delete

Kevin Shimwell
Link Brokers Group, LLC  ( Support )
1600 Hwy 17 South
North Myrtle Beach, SC 29582
Phone: 843-663-1004
Fax: 843-663-1007
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
24/7 
Support 
http://www.linkbrokers.com/support_ticket.cfmhttp://www.linkbrokers.com/support_ticket.cfm
 
Support M-F  1-888-546-5631


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CORRUPTEDVIRUS v1.0.0

2004-07-20 Thread Matt
Scott,
I probably mistakened the zero-byte zips which most won't ban by 
extension.  Declude Virus however seems to have introduced a bogus ZIP 
file vunerability in a more recent interim which is blocking these 
zero-byte zip files.  I suppose that's good although it may have been 
unintentional.

Yesterday's virus has huge problems with zero-byte files being sent.
Matt

R. Scott Perry wrote:

Some of our customers today received messages containing a 
(encrypted?) zip
file with no files inside.
The body contains something like Password: 12345

As it doesn't contain any viral code it's not so problematic, but it 
creates
a lot of doubt's on customer side if our mailboxes are realy protected.

Unfortunately, there is little that can be done about attachments that 
appear to be viruses but are not.  That's something that filters in 
Declude JunkMail would probably handle best.

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Reconfiguring sorbs.net tests

2004-07-20 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
I currently have 9 sorbs.net lookups:

SORBS-HTTP  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.2   5   0
SORBS-SOCKS ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.3   5   0
SORBS-MISC  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.4   5   0
SORBS-SMTP  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.5   5   0
SORBS-SPAM  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.6   4   0
SORBS-WEB   ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.7   5   0
SORBS-BLOCK ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.8   5   0
SORBS-ZOMBIEip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.9   5   0
SORBS-DUHL  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.10  4   0

It seems I can replace these 9 lookups with 1:

rhsbl.sorbs.net - Aggregate zone (contains all RHS zones)

Would the new config file line would look like this? (replacing the ip
numbers with a *)?

SORBS-DUHL  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net *   4   0

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reconfiguring sorbs.net tests

2004-07-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

I currently have 9 sorbs.net lookups:
...
It seems I can replace these 9 lookups with 1:
rhsbl.sorbs.net - Aggregate zone (contains all RHS zones)
Would the new config file line would look like this? (replacing the ip
numbers with a *)?
SORBS-DUHL  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net *   4   0
That will work fine (although I would suggest using just SORBS or 
SORBS-ALL as the test name).

The main benefit includes fewer lines in the config files, but the drawback 
is less flexibility (for example, all the SORBS tests would need to have 
the same weight).  Note that even with all 9 lines, Declude JunkMail will 
still only send one DNS query.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Njabl test?

2004-07-20 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
I notice the njabl test is not a standard test in the sample Declude
JunkMail config file:

# The following tests are commented out by 
  default because they are not commonly used
# NJABL  ip4r  dnsbl.njabl.org  127.0.0.2  5  0

Is this test worth the machine time doing the lookup?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Njabl test?

2004-07-20 Thread Scott Fisher
 Here are my NJABL results for June:

 TestCount   Delete SPAM   Held SPAM   
Poss SPAM  Not SPAM
 CATCHALLMAILS  27398384.0%  3.2%  0.4%
 12.3%
 NJABL-DUL 1266898.9%  1.1%  
0.0%  0.0%
 NJABL-DYNABLOCK8890398.9%  1.0%  0.1% 
 0.0%
 NJABL-FORMMAIL-ALL 1060.0%  0.0%  0.0%
 40.0%
 NJABL-FORMMAIL-LAST   1060.0%  0.0%  0.0% 
40.0%
 NJABL-HELO-DYNABLOCK8396.4%  3.6%  0.0%   
   0.0%
 NJABL-PROXIES-ALL  4250199.7%  0.2%  0.0% 
 0.1%
 NJABL-PROXIES-LAST   4206499.9%  0.1%  0.0%   
   0.0%
 NJABL-RELAYS-ALL35387.3%  2.5%  1.4%  
8.8%
 NJABL-RELAYS-LAST  34986.8%  2.6%  1.7%   
   8.9%
 NJABL-SOURCES  637199.0%  0.7%  0.1%  
0.2%
 NJABL-SOURCES-ALL  128599.5%  0.4%  0.0%  
0.1%
 NJABL-SOURCES-LAST128199.6%  0.3%  0.0%   
   0.1%


Scott Fisher
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Farm Progress Companies

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I notice the njabl test is not a standard test in the sample Declude
JunkMail config file:

# The following tests are commented out by 
  default because they are not commonly used
# NJABL  ip4r  dnsbl.njabl.org  127.0.0.2  5  0

Is this test worth the machine time doing the lookup?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reconfiguring sorbs.net tests

2004-07-20 Thread Scott Fisher
I think keeping them separate gives you a little more weighting flexibility.
I weight the sorbs-spam a little lower because it is not quite as effective as the 
other tests (dropping into the mere 98%'s:

 Test Count   Delete SPAM   Held SPAM   Poss SPAM  
  Not SPAM
 SORBS-BADCONF86799.1%  0.9%  0.0% 
 0.0%
 SORBS-DUHL   8452799.2%  0.8%  0.0%   
   0.0%
 SORBS-FORMMAIL-ALL 179099.7%  0.3%  0.0%  
0.0%
 SORBS-FORMMAIL-LAST217999.9%  0.1%  0.0%  
0.0%
 SORBS-HTTP-ALL 2637699.6%  0.1%  0.0% 
 0.2%
 SORBS-HTTP-LAST  2610799.8%  0.0%  0.0%   
   0.2%
 SORBS-MISC-ALL1525299.9%  0.1%  0.0%  
0.0%
 SORBS-MISC-LAST  1526799.9%  0.1%  0.0%   
   0.0%
 SORBS-SMTP-ALL  241999.5%  0.0%  0.0% 
 0.5%
 SORBS-SMTP-LAST242199.5%  0.0%  0.0%  
0.5%
 SORBS-SOCKS-ALL  2884199.8%  0.1%  0.0%   
   0.1%
 SORBS-SOCKS-LAST28640   100.0%  0.0%  0.0%
  0.0%
 SORBS-SPAM-ALL 2542097.0%  1.6%  0.2% 
 1.2%
 SORBS-SPAM-LAST  2528797.0%  1.6%  0.2%   
   1.2%
 SORBS-ZOMBIE50799.2%  0.2%  0.0%  
0.6%

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/04 09:50AM 
I currently have 9 sorbs.net lookups:

SORBS-HTTP  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.2   5   0
SORBS-SOCKS ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.3   5   0
SORBS-MISC  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.4   5   0
SORBS-SMTP  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.5   5   0
SORBS-SPAM  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.6   4   0
SORBS-WEB   ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.7   5   0
SORBS-BLOCK ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.8   5   0
SORBS-ZOMBIEip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.9   5   0
SORBS-DUHL  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.10  4   0

It seems I can replace these 9 lookups with 1:

rhsbl.sorbs.net - Aggregate zone (contains all RHS zones)

Would the new config file line would look like this? (replacing the ip
numbers with a *)?

SORBS-DUHL  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net *   4   0

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[Declude.JunkMail] Another way to skin broken BAGLE.AH

2004-07-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Brute force works well for this particular virus, because it has so few
possibilities and doesn't use common enough attachment names for me to
consider it any risk for false positives:

#Jul-20-2004 AC broken BAGLE.AH and so forth
BODY 0 CONTAINS filename=cat.
BODY 0 CONTAINS filename=Cool_MP3.
BODY 0 CONTAINS filename=Dog.
BODY 0 CONTAINS filename=Doll.
BODY 0 CONTAINS filename=Fish.
BODY 0 CONTAINS filename=Garry.
BODY 0 CONTAINS filename=MP3.
BODY 0 CONTAINS filename=Music_MP3.
BODY 0 CONTAINS filename=New_MP3_Player.

I put this in a JunkMail Pro filter file with a HOLD action.

Andrew 8)

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From: Scott Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Njabl test?


 Here are my NJABL results for June:

 TestCount   Delete SPAM   Held
SPAM   Poss SPAM  Not SPAM
 CATCHALLMAILS  27398384.0%  3.2%
0.4% 12.3%
 NJABL-DUL 1266898.9%  1.1%
0.0%  0.0%
 NJABL-DYNABLOCK8890398.9%  1.0%
0.1%  0.0%
 NJABL-FORMMAIL-ALL 1060.0%  0.0%
0.0% 40.0%
 NJABL-FORMMAIL-LAST   1060.0%  0.0%
0.0% 40.0%
 NJABL-HELO-DYNABLOCK8396.4%  3.6%
0.0%  0.0%
 NJABL-PROXIES-ALL  4250199.7%  0.2%
0.0%  0.1%
 NJABL-PROXIES-LAST   4206499.9%  0.1%
0.0%  0.0%
 NJABL-RELAYS-ALL35387.3%  2.5%
1.4%  8.8%
 NJABL-RELAYS-LAST  34986.8%  2.6%
1.7%  8.9%
 NJABL-SOURCES  637199.0%  0.7%
0.1%  0.2%
 NJABL-SOURCES-ALL  128599.5%  0.4%
0.0%  0.1%
 NJABL-SOURCES-LAST128199.6%  0.3%
0.0%  0.1%


Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/04 09:54AM 
I notice the njabl test is not a standard test in the sample Declude
JunkMail config file:

# The following tests are commented out by 
  default because they are not commonly used
# NJABL  ip4r  dnsbl.njabl.org  127.0.0.2  5  0

Is this test worth the machine time doing the lookup?

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[Declude.JunkMail] SURBL Question

2004-07-20 Thread Goran Jovanovic








Hi,



From the Declude log



07/19/2004 08:04:24 Qb8bf32820036f483 Filter SURBL: Not skipping E-mail
due to current weight of 8.

07/19/2004 08:04:25 Qb8bf32820036f483 Triggered CONTAINS filter SURBL
on ly.to [weight-0; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

07/19/2004 08:04:26 Qb8bf32820036f483 CMDSPACE:8 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-5
SURBL:7 . Total weight = 10.



07/19/2004 08:04:26 Qb8bf32820036f483 Msg failed SURBL (Message failed
SURBL test (line 435, weight 7)). Action="">



Does this mean that the line the SURBL filter tripped on was [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
then it assigned a weight of 7 to the score.



I looked in my SURBL.txt file and the above does not appear??



Am I reading the log right?



Thanx



 Goran Jovanovic

 The LAN Shoppe










Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL Question

2004-07-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

07/19/2004 08:04:25 Qb8bf32820036f483 Triggered CONTAINS filter SURBL on 
ly.to [weight-0; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does this mean that the line the SURBL filter tripped on was 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] and then 
it assigned a weight of 7 to the score.
No.  It means that the SURBL filter tripped on a line with ... CONTAINS 
ly.to.  Since that E-mail address contains ly.to, the E-mail was caught.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL Question

2004-07-20 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: Goran Jovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From the Declude log

 07/19/2004 08:04:25 Qb8bf32820036f483 Triggered CONTAINS filter SURBL on
 ly.to [weight-0; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Does this mean that the line the SURBL filter tripped on was
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  and then it assigned a weight of 7 to the score.

 I looked in my SURBL.txt file and the above does not appear??

It matched on ly.to, with matched on LY.TOwsend in the e-mail address.
Change your filter file entries from CONTAINS to ENDSWITH and that
should take care of this problem.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL Question

2004-07-20 Thread Scott Fisher
Yes you are reading the log correctly.
You've probably scheduled a updates of the surbl, so they probably removed it 
somewhere along the line.

If it's in the body it is fair game because of the way the BODY filter works. As 
always with filters, the shorter the comparison, the more dangerous it is. That's why 
full non-filter support for SURBLs would be a great addition to Declude.

I have these in my SURBL exclude file:

edu.au
ne.jp
ly.to
oo.to

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/04 11:43AM 
Hi,

 

From the Declude log

 

07/19/2004 08:04:24 Qb8bf32820036f483 Filter SURBL: Not skipping E-mail
due to current weight of 8.

07/19/2004 08:04:25 Qb8bf32820036f483 Triggered CONTAINS filter SURBL on
ly.to [weight-0; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

07/19/2004 08:04:26 Qb8bf32820036f483 CMDSPACE:8 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-5
SURBL:7 .  Total weight = 10.

 

07/19/2004 08:04:26 Qb8bf32820036f483 Msg failed SURBL (Message failed
SURBL test (line 435, weight 7)). Action=WARN.

 

Does this mean that the line the SURBL filter tripped on was
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and then it assigned a weight of 7 to the
score.

 

I looked in my SURBL.txt file and the above does not appear??

 

Am I reading the log right?

 

Thanx

 

 Goran Jovanovic

 The LAN Shoppe

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL Question

2004-07-20 Thread Goran Jovanovic
OK now I see the ly.to in the front of the [weight

Unfortunately this is the SURBL test and it auto downloads the updates
and this is the line that it tripped on

BODY 0 CONTAINS ly.to

Am not going to be able to do anything about the SURBL.txt file. Will
have to see that else I can think of (short of whitelisting the sender).

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe
 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302
 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5
 Phone: (416) 440-1167 x-2113
 Cell: (416) 931-0688
 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:57 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL Question
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Goran Jovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 From the Declude log
 
  07/19/2004 08:04:25 Qb8bf32820036f483 Triggered CONTAINS filter
SURBL on
  ly.to [weight-0; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Does this mean that the line the SURBL filter tripped on was
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   and then it assigned a weight of 7 to the score.
 
  I looked in my SURBL.txt file and the above does not appear??
 
 It matched on ly.to, with matched on LY.TOwsend in the e-mail
address.
 Change your filter file entries from CONTAINS to ENDSWITH and that
 should take care of this problem.
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL Question

2004-07-20 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Scott,

Thank you. I have been doing these type of excludes/fixes with some
other filters that I download (and I had to create the excludes) and
here SURBL already has it built in.

Wow. Updated the exclude list and DONE.

Thanx


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:59 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL Question
 
 Yes you are reading the log correctly.
 You've probably scheduled a updates of the surbl, so they probably
removed
 it somewhere along the line.
 
 If it's in the body it is fair game because of the way the BODY filter
 works. As always with filters, the shorter the comparison, the more
 dangerous it is. That's why full non-filter support for SURBLs would
be a
 great addition to Declude.
 
 I have these in my SURBL exclude file:
 
 edu.au
 ne.jp
 ly.to
 oo.to
 
 Scott Fisher
 Director of IT
 Farm Progress Companies
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/04 11:43AM 
 Hi,
 
 
 
 From the Declude log
 
 
 
 07/19/2004 08:04:24 Qb8bf32820036f483 Filter SURBL: Not skipping
E-mail
 due to current weight of 8.
 
 07/19/2004 08:04:25 Qb8bf32820036f483 Triggered CONTAINS filter SURBL
on
 ly.to [weight-0; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 07/19/2004 08:04:26 Qb8bf32820036f483 CMDSPACE:8 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-5
 SURBL:7 .  Total weight = 10.
 
 
 
 07/19/2004 08:04:26 Qb8bf32820036f483 Msg failed SURBL (Message failed
 SURBL test (line 435, weight 7)). Action=WARN.
 
 
 
 Does this mean that the line the SURBL filter tripped on was
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then it assigned a weight of 7 to the
 score.
 
 
 
 I looked in my SURBL.txt file and the above does not appear??
 
 
 
 Am I reading the log right?
 
 
 
 Thanx
 
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
 
  The LAN Shoppe
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL Question

2004-07-20 Thread Scott Fisher
You need CONTAINS, not ENDSWITH

BODY 0 ENDSWITH  ly.co isn't what you want.


Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/04 11:57AM 
- Original Message - 
From: Goran Jovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From the Declude log

 07/19/2004 08:04:25 Qb8bf32820036f483 Triggered CONTAINS filter SURBL on
 ly.to [weight-0; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Does this mean that the line the SURBL filter tripped on was
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  and then it assigned a weight of 7 to the score.

 I looked in my SURBL.txt file and the above does not appear??

It matched on ly.to, with matched on LY.TOwsend in the e-mail address.
Change your filter file entries from CONTAINS to ENDSWITH and that
should take care of this problem.

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL Question

2004-07-20 Thread Bill Landry
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From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 You need CONTAINS, not ENDSWITH

 BODY 0 ENDSWITH  ly.co isn't what you want.

Yep, makes sense.  I use the SURBLs as a DNS query on my SpamAssassin
gateways, so wasn't thinking of the application in a filter file and how it
applies to a URI string.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issues

2004-07-20 Thread Dave Doherty
Thanks, Sharyn

-d


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From: Sharyn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 7:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issues


If nothing else, we catch a good bit of spam and viruses that forge our
email addresses by using SPF.


I have found, that so, far, the BEST usage for SPF, as stated above, is that
it's catching spam that has spoofed my own domain's address.

Sharyn


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[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisted[0]

2004-07-20 Thread Jay Calvert



Hi all,

We tag email with the subject tag "SPAM*-" when 
email gets a score of higher than 10.

What happened here. It says that it was 
whitelisted but it still tagged with "SPAM*-"


Message Headers.


Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "Eddie 
Jacob" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
RE: *SPAM -FW: National Flame ScheduleDate: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:23:43 
-0500Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]MIME-Version: 
1.0Content-Type: 
text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 
quoted-printableX-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 
10.0.2627Thread-Index: AcRuhvuoW48llqwwRhSwNFVG4SVYDA==X-MimeOLE: 
Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Declude-Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[208.57.78.89]X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for 
spam.X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted [0]X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-UIDL: 
356763148




Jay Calvert


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisted[0]

2004-07-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

We tag email with the subject tag SPAM*- when email gets a score of 
higher than 10.

What happened here.  It says that it was whitelisted but it still tagged 
with SPAM*-
What happened here is that someone got an E-mail with *SPAM in the 
subject, and replied to it:

Subject: RE: *SPAM -FW: National Flame Schedule
Declude JunkMail only adds to the beginning of the subject, but this one 
starts with RE:.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisted[0]

2004-07-20 Thread Jay Calvert



Nevermind!
Is it Friday yet?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jay 
  Calvert 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:17 
PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  Whitelisted[0]
  
  Hi all,
  
  We tag email with the subject tag "SPAM*-" when 
  email gets a score of higher than 10.
  
  What happened here. It says that it was 
  whitelisted but it still tagged with "SPAM*-"
  
  
  Message Headers.
  
  
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "Eddie 
  Jacob" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  RE: *SPAM -FW: National Flame ScheduleDate: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:23:43 
  -0500Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]MIME-Version: 
  1.0Content-Type: 
  text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 
  quoted-printableX-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 
  10.0.2627Thread-Index: AcRuhvuoW48llqwwRhSwNFVG4SVYDA==X-MimeOLE: 
  Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Declude-Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [208.57.78.89]X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for 
  spam.X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted [0]X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-UIDL: 
  356763148
  
  
  
  
  Jay Calvert


[Declude.JunkMail] Spam now (should) fail tests, didn't when received.

2004-07-20 Thread Brad Morgan
I have a couple of spams that got past Declude JunkMail yesterday by only
failing SPAMHEADERS.

X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
[421f].
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [81.118.52.193]

and

X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
[420e].
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12.215.203.9]

Today if I feed these IP addresses into www.dnsstuff.com, they now fail
multiple
tests that I have enabled (SPAMCOP, CBL for example).

I looked at the Declude JunkMail log and didn't see anything suspicious.
The messages
were received over 30 minutes apart.

The only explanation I can come up with is that they were just added to the
lists.
Is this reasonable?  Are there other explanations?  Can I find out when they
were
added to any of the lists they now fail?

Is there an easy way to feed them back through the system and see if they
get a
different weight today?

Regards,

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam now (should) fail tests, didn't when received.

2004-07-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
...
Today if I feed these IP addresses into www.dnsstuff.com, they now fail
multiple tests that I have enabled (SPAMCOP, CBL for example).
...
The only explanation I can come up with is that they were just added to the
lists.
Is this reasonable?  Are there other explanations?  Can I find out when they
were added to any of the lists they now fail?
That is probably what happened.  Spamcop used to list when the IPs had been 
added, which was a really nice feature, but now they are very vague 
(Listed 18 of the past 21 days, for example), which doesn't help 
much.  Most other spam databases do not, however, list when the IPs were added.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam now (should) fail tests, didn't when received.

2004-07-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Brad, several of the ip4r tests list whole subnets, and I've seen hits from
IPs in that and similar subnets across the last week.

More likely is that your DNS didn't respond in time when Declude inspected
this particular message.

Andrew.

-Original Message-
From: Brad Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam now (should) fail tests, didn't when
received.


I have a couple of spams that got past Declude JunkMail yesterday by only
failing SPAMHEADERS.

X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
[421f].
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [81.118.52.193]

and

X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
[420e].
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12.215.203.9]

Today if I feed these IP addresses into www.dnsstuff.com, they now fail
multiple
tests that I have enabled (SPAMCOP, CBL for example).

I looked at the Declude JunkMail log and didn't see anything suspicious.
The messages
were received over 30 minutes apart.

The only explanation I can come up with is that they were just added to the
lists.
Is this reasonable?  Are there other explanations?  Can I find out when they
were
added to any of the lists they now fail?

Is there an easy way to feed them back through the system and see if they
get a
different weight today?

Regards,

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam now (should) fail tests, didn't when received.

2004-07-20 Thread Brad Morgan

 Brad, several of the ip4r tests list whole subnets, and I've seen
 hits from
 IPs in that and similar subnets across the last week.

 More likely is that your DNS didn't respond in time when Declude inspected
 this particular message.

 Andrew.

Andrew,

I was able to grovel around on SPAMCOP's web site and found a page that said
these two IPs have been listed for 6.9 days so your explanation makes the
most sense so far.

Is this timeout adjustable?  My email server isn't that busy so I could
afford
to increase this timeout a bit and see if that helps.

Regards,

Brad

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam now (should) fail tests, didn't when received.

2004-07-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

 More likely is that your DNS didn't respond in time when Declude inspected
 this particular message.
Is this timeout adjustable?  My email server isn't that busy so I could afford
to increase this timeout a bit and see if that helps.
Unfortunately, it is not adjustable.  However, Declude JunkMail will re-try 
if the first one times out, so you should only see a problem if either your 
DNS server has network problems, or if the spam database isn't responding well.

   -Scott
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