Hi;
Just to add my 2 cents to this discussion.
My experience is similar to others with these two but I again think they
have their place as a factor in combo filters.
This is how we use these two.
A filter for the RFC Ignorant
File name: Combo_RFC_Ignorant.txt
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS
I had this same problem with the 2.0.5 release, get an error Error
copying files to directory and it fails, doesn't even copy files via
the manual installation. I filled out the little support form that
automatically popped up. Has anyone figured out a way around this yet?
Thanks,
Sam
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NM, they sent me a manual install in a zip. :)
S.J.Stanaitis wrote:
I had this same problem with the 2.0.5 release, get an error Error
copying files to directory and it fails, doesn't even copy files via
the manual installation. I filled out the little support form that
automatically popped
Hi Kami,
I like the way you've named your tests. It's
also good to know that others have already done similar Negative weighting for
the larger ISPs while keeping some of these marginal tests.
I had even thought about turning it into an
RHSBL. Anyone have any interest in pooling lists to
Ugh... I just saw a Challenge-Response email from
an EarthLink user in the hold queue. It's obviously an EarthLink
service. I assume they've exempted other EarthLink users from this, but I
wonder what will happen when another major ISP decides to do it as well...
insanity...
Darin.
I really enjoyed the Earthlink Challenge-Response
when my own e-mail address was forged by some spammers a couple of months ago.
I'd get about a dozen Challenge-Responses a day out of Earthlink.
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From:
Darin Cox
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Title: Message
Darin,
what's
the problem? As long as Challenge/Response messages originate from
"" (the null sender) it wouldn't matter if two majorISPs do
it.
They
key is:
a)
have a weighting system in place so that only "questionable mail" is challenged
to cut down on overhead
b)
I am trying to determine why some email from Road Runner is
getting picked up by DSBL. When I query DSBL for 24.93.47.42 it says Status
Ip not listed by DSBL.
Here is the line in my global.cfg
DSBL ip4r list.dsbl.org * 8 0
Is the * picking up something since it looks for anything
Ouch!
Ok, so I'm a little behind the times...just hadn't
seen any in the hold queue before now.
Darin.
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From: Scott
Fisher
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink now using
Title: Message
Hi Andy,
Well, this one didn't come from a NULL sender... so
it looks like B from your keys below falls flat. I have no idea as to
whether EarthLink does A or C.
Darin.
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From: Andy Schmidt
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, April
File/Folder permissions?
John T
eServices For You
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:13 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Still can't install
Title: Message
Andy Schmidt wrote:
The lack of a properly implemented
challenge/response mechanism for Imail/Declude (for those who like to
implement it) has always been a disadvantage.
Ugg. Virtually every C/R that my server receives is associated with
spam and it is very
Could there be another hop that was being detected
and checked by DSBL.
Vould be it was on the lsit and then was later
removed.
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From:
Kyle Fisher
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:34
AM
Subject:
Title: Message
"BTW, Kami has had
repeated issues with C/R stopping his receipts. I'm not totally sure of
the details there."
WE HATE EARTHLINK.. everyday we get 20-30 C/R to our
receipts. We simply delete them since it is impossible to keep
up.
If I could I would bounce their C/R so it
Pro version of declude, and been awhile since I've made a filter, so maybe I
am over looking something silly.
global cfg file:
stepDOMblockfromfileC:\IMail\Declude\Filters\stepDOMblock.txt
x 5 0
In C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\ is a txt file named stepDOMblock.txt with
This is what I have
#=
LOGS ==
# in the LOGFILE option,
if present, automatically gets replaced with the month/date.
# Log Level options: WARN / LOW / MID /
HIGH / DEBUG / ERROR
LOGFILE
Is there a carriage return after the line in the stepDOMblock.txt file?
Any chance something else has the file open and locked?
Darin.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:11 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
Title: Message
If I could I would bounce their C/R so it never get to us. I
tried it once and it got us in a loop with another ISP's C/R
Yes, that's Declude's fault as much as it
is an unacceptable C/R implementation. NEITHER should be sending notices
from anything but NULL. If at least
I believe all is needed here is to add a @ symbol in from of your domain
in your .txt file
Thus,
@phobraun.com per Jessica's request
-Keith
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To:
That just means he would no longer be able to catch
aaaphobraun.com
bbbphobraun.com
cccphobraun.com
dddphobraun.com
...
But you're right in that normally you would put in one or both of
@phobraun.com
.phobraun.com
Darin.
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From: Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Title: Message
IMail won't let Declude send as . That's the problem.
Matt
Andy Schmidt wrote:
If I could I would bounce their C/R so
it never get to us. I tried it once and it got us in a loop with
another ISP's C/R
Yes, that's
Declude's fault as much as it is an
The HOPHIGH setting in combination I believe will result in the last 3
hops being scanned. In your config that is set to 2.
It is advisable that you either comment out HOPHIGH, or take a bunch of
time to work out how to score differently the open relay type tests on
hops besides the last.
should there be a CR? Currently there is.
Nothing else has the filter file open.
I purposely did not add @ to the beginning of the domain because I don't
want any mail from any current or future mail servers of theirs. As it is
now, I will delete anything coming from anything related to
Yes, there should.
Only thing I can think of then is to make absolutely sure the filenames are
typed correctly. I know you've probably already done it, but it had to be
said...grin
Might be worth retyping the line in case of any extraneous characters
Darin.
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Title: Message
IMail won't
let Declude send as . That's the
problem.
Almost. The problem is that Declude stillCHOOSES to use
theImail1.exe command line application, even though it clearly is
unsuitable for the task.
Instead,they should allow us to configure which command
line
Ok thanks. I think I will just comment
out HOPHIGH.
Kyle
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:44
AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DSBL Road Runner
The HOPHIGH setting in
Title: Message
... or
Postie, or dropping the message into an IIS SMTP pickup folder, or... but
hopefully, not writing their own outbound MTA.
Andrew
8)
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Title: Message
Andy,
I also assume that they could also generate both a D and Q file and
then just give it back to the SMTP process (IMail specific but likely
also possible in SmarterMail). I would definitely approve of the
change, and it is the right thing to do, but I don't think that this
I would double\tripple check to see if the path is correct to the filter
file???
Kevin Bilbee
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Subject: RE:
Title: Message
Hi
Matt:
I don't think that this would be trivial since there are several
functions that use this and now two different platforms
Now
may actually be the right time - they clearly HAD to "unbundle" their code from
Imail1.exe in order to support SmarterMail. If anything,
Title: Message
Andy,
BLAT is great for scripting, but I don't think that you want to create
such a dependency within Declude, and I could see this causing issues
on some systems since this would be handled outside of the standard
process. Since they already have a mail server to work with, I
the path is correct, the file name is correct, tried rebooting, still same
error. Even went as far as renaming the test and the file and the adjusting
the path accordingly.. same results.
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Sent:
I have a customer that knows majordomo but only has a Windows 2000
box to put it on - so although there may not be a port to win32 are
there any comparable listserves that I could recommend?
Thanks!
-Nick
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I have burned by not having deselected Hide file extensions for known
file types, thus my example.txt file was really example.txt.txt Could
this be the case?
Keith
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/me puts dunce cap on
removing the .txt did not warn me about renaming the file, and it stayed
txt... so I am guessing this was it.
Just have to wait a little and see what happens.
THANK YOU!
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Hi,
I just started using junkmail and was wondering how people used it.
I would like to know if both imail's antispam and junkmail are used together
or if it is better to turn off imail and just tweak junkmail?
Seems like using junkmail only would make maintenance easier, but maybe
imail has
Nope...turn of IMail's anti-spam. Junkmail has everything there and much
more.
Darin.
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From: M Pilletere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] newbie question: imail antispam vs junkmail
I've turned off all of Imail's stuff.
I also use Sortmonster's Message Sniffer and Invariant's Invuribl addons.
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From: M Pilletere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 2:35 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] newbie question: imail
Agree. We also use the same as Scott. Imail's anti-spam is not used. Only
Declude, Sniffer and Invariant's URIBL.
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:52 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Personally, I have turned off Imail's anti-spam. There really is not
anything there that Declude can't do or doesnt do better. I know some folks
have a combination of both, but after looking over what Imail offers I did
not see any added benefit to running it.
Darrell
Thanks for all the input.
I'll probably shut down Imail and tweak JM. Will look into the other programs
suggested.
Thank again.
Mike
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