Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
On 4/28/05, Robert Grosshandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why didn't you point your CF server at smartermail? It gave me an entirely separate mail engine. I have customers with (legitimate) association mailing lists and in (small) part this lets me split the load. SM could handle that load, but I also had major issues with my SM configuration, which uses ASSP as an antispam gateway in front of SM, and this complicated my life a fair bit. Bypassing that setup and letting Imail be a ColdFusion-smtp-only engine solved some annoying config problems between with that gateway tucked into the picture. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
Sorry, was out on Thursday. Declude 2.0.6 has been working just fine on Imail 8.20 RC02 for about 2 weeks with no problems. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:52 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Yup, I've seen that in your sig for years .. just never had a use for it. :) Jonathan Sanford Whiteman wrote: No it does not have this feature built in but Sandy wrote some nifty scripts that make this task a bit easier. . . . see my sig for details. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
> No it does not have this feature built in but Sandy wrote some nifty > scripts that make this task a bit easier. . . . see my sig for details. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Bummer... seems like they could make it work hand in hand, Declude and SM seem to be all buddy buddy .. that'd make a pretty powerful tool. Jonathan Kevin Bilbee wrote: No declude does not pluginto SM's spam filtering. Delcude works pretymuch just like it does on Imail. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:57 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Yes, that is absolutly correct - Declude will work on Smartermail. So I was just playing with the SM web interface -- does Declude plug directly into SM's spam tools? If so, that looks pretty slick compared to hacked up scripts shuffling stuff into the right folders .. :) Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
No prob - being a dev myself, I tend to try to find the most complex ways to do things. ;) Jonathan Dave Doherty wrote: Hi Jonathan- Thanks for pointing that out. I'm really surprised their tech support folks didn't recommend it. -d - Original Message - From: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Seems like it'd be trivial to write, hooking their svcUserAdmin.asmx and svcDomainAliasAdmin.asmx (GetAliases and GetUsers). Yeah, it'd be nice if they do it natively, but it looks like a 1 hour project to do it "manually". Guess I wouldn't be too worked up about that. Jonathan Dave Doherty wrote: You are right. IMail has no such feature, either. With Imail, I currently take the user data right from the registry using the .NET registry classes, reformat it, and send it on to my gateway. Of course, if you use an external database with Imail you can run queries against that. It just seems so logical that since SM (a) uses XML and (b) provides a gateway function, that they would provide a communication channel between the mailbox and the gateway to allow for rejection of bad addresses at the gateway. It would be so easy, and so valuable to do. Anyway, lacking that, and also missing some of the Declude/Imail features, I opted to wait to see if they do better with version 3. I put in the feature request, so maybe they are listening... Having said all that, the product looks very nice, and I agree with all that the web interface is far "smarter" looking than Imail's. -d hmm .. .I think I'm confused. You're saying Imail has a way to load user accounts for gateway systems? All I've ever seen is the host file hack for adding gateway domains, but I've never seen a way to load user accounts. Am I missing something? Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Hi Jonathan- Thanks for pointing that out. I'm really surprised their tech support folks didn't recommend it. -d - Original Message - From: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Seems like it'd be trivial to write, hooking their svcUserAdmin.asmx and svcDomainAliasAdmin.asmx (GetAliases and GetUsers). Yeah, it'd be nice if they do it natively, but it looks like a 1 hour project to do it "manually". Guess I wouldn't be too worked up about that. Jonathan Dave Doherty wrote: You are right. IMail has no such feature, either. With Imail, I currently take the user data right from the registry using the .NET registry classes, reformat it, and send it on to my gateway. Of course, if you use an external database with Imail you can run queries against that. It just seems so logical that since SM (a) uses XML and (b) provides a gateway function, that they would provide a communication channel between the mailbox and the gateway to allow for rejection of bad addresses at the gateway. It would be so easy, and so valuable to do. Anyway, lacking that, and also missing some of the Declude/Imail features, I opted to wait to see if they do better with version 3. I put in the feature request, so maybe they are listening... Having said all that, the product looks very nice, and I agree with all that the web interface is far "smarter" looking than Imail's. -d hmm .. .I think I'm confused. You're saying Imail has a way to load user accounts for gateway systems? All I've ever seen is the host file hack for adding gateway domains, but I've never seen a way to load user accounts. Am I missing something? Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
No declude does not pluginto SM's spam filtering. Delcude works pretymuch just like it does on Imail. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:57 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail > > > Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > >>Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain > filtering gateway > >>with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam > saying it > >>could .. > >> > >> > > > >Yes, that is absolutly correct - Declude will work on Smartermail. > > > > > > > So I was just playing with the SM web interface -- does Declude plug > directly into SM's spam tools? If so, that looks pretty slick > compared > to hacked up scripts shuffling stuff into the right folders .. :) > > >Darrell > > > >--- > >Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for > Declude And > >Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, > >SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. > > > >--- > >This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > >unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > >"unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > >http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be > found at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Seems like it'd be trivial to write, hooking their svcUserAdmin.asmx and svcDomainAliasAdmin.asmx (GetAliases and GetUsers). Yeah, it'd be nice if they do it natively, but it looks like a 1 hour project to do it "manually". Guess I wouldn't be too worked up about that. Jonathan Dave Doherty wrote: You are right. IMail has no such feature, either. With Imail, I currently take the user data right from the registry using the .NET registry classes, reformat it, and send it on to my gateway. Of course, if you use an external database with Imail you can run queries against that. It just seems so logical that since SM (a) uses XML and (b) provides a gateway function, that they would provide a communication channel between the mailbox and the gateway to allow for rejection of bad addresses at the gateway. It would be so easy, and so valuable to do. Anyway, lacking that, and also missing some of the Declude/Imail features, I opted to wait to see if they do better with version 3. I put in the feature request, so maybe they are listening... Having said all that, the product looks very nice, and I agree with all that the web interface is far "smarter" looking than Imail's. -d hmm .. .I think I'm confused. You're saying Imail has a way to load user accounts for gateway systems? All I've ever seen is the host file hack for adding gateway domains, but I've never seen a way to load user accounts. Am I missing something? Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
You are right. IMail has no such feature, either. With Imail, I currently take the user data right from the registry using the .NET registry classes, reformat it, and send it on to my gateway. Of course, if you use an external database with Imail you can run queries against that. It just seems so logical that since SM (a) uses XML and (b) provides a gateway function, that they would provide a communication channel between the mailbox and the gateway to allow for rejection of bad addresses at the gateway. It would be so easy, and so valuable to do. Anyway, lacking that, and also missing some of the Declude/Imail features, I opted to wait to see if they do better with version 3. I put in the feature request, so maybe they are listening... Having said all that, the product looks very nice, and I agree with all that the web interface is far "smarter" looking than Imail's. -d hmm .. .I think I'm confused. You're saying Imail has a way to load user accounts for gateway systems? All I've ever seen is the host file hack for adding gateway domains, but I've never seen a way to load user accounts. Am I missing something? Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Yes, that is absolutly correct - Declude will work on Smartermail. So I was just playing with the SM web interface -- does Declude plug directly into SM's spam tools? If so, that looks pretty slick compared to hacked up scripts shuffling stuff into the right folders .. :) Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Dave Doherty wrote: Not the last time I asked for it. They acted like they could not fathom why we would ever need it, and said they weren't even working on it. So I'm still on Imail. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Does Smartermail have any features built in for gateway based systems - i.e. load a list of accounts that are valid that you gateway for envelope rejection? Darrell --- Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail and Virus - DLAnalyzer - http://www.invariantsystems.com. - Original Message - From: "Michael Jaworski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:17 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail The price for SM from Declude was great. Even better yet is SmarterMail, the product. It works. Their able to get things tuned up or added a lot quicker like Declude. I am seeing a pattern. I like it when a software company is lean and mean. I would rather feed a lean cat than a fat cat. First it was WebTrends, then Lyris and now Ipswitch. Still trying to figure out how MS fits in this picture. Fat cat with a big stick?? One vote for SmarterMail. Mike PS Don't miss the fact their backup servers come with the deal at no charge. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Ok -- time for the question again. Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? Comments appreciated. Rob --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. hmm .. .I think I'm confused. You're saying Imail has a way to load user accounts for gateway systems? All I've ever seen is the host file hack for adding gateway domains, but I've never seen a way to load user accounts. Am I missing something? Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it could .. Jonathan --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
My comment refers to their SmartHost feature, which allegedly is a gateway product. But there is no way for the mailbox server to communicate to the SmartHost what addresses are acceptable. Therefore, you need to script some stuff up and use a different gateway. That makes the SmartHost feature just about useless in my book. -d - Original Message - From: "Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Does Smartermail have any features built in for gateway based systems - i.e. load a list of accounts that are valid that you gateway for envelope rejection? Darrell --- Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail and Virus - DLAnalyzer - http://www.invariantsystems.com. - Original Message - From: "Michael Jaworski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:17 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail The price for SM from Declude was great. Even better yet is SmarterMail, the product. It works. Their able to get things tuned up or added a lot quicker like Declude. I am seeing a pattern. I like it when a software company is lean and mean. I would rather feed a lean cat than a fat cat. First it was WebTrends, then Lyris and now Ipswitch. Still trying to figure out how MS fits in this picture. Fat cat with a big stick?? One vote for SmarterMail. Mike PS Don't miss the fact their backup servers come with the deal at no charge. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Ok -- time for the question again. Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? Comments appreciated. Rob --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Dave, That's unfortunate - that feature would be a no brainier for an immediate migration to the product for me. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: "Dave Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail > Not the last time I asked for it. They acted like they could not fathom why > we would ever need it, and said they weren't even working on it. > > So I'm still on Imail. > > -Dave Doherty > Skywaves, Inc. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail > > > > Does Smartermail have any features built in for gateway based systems - > > i.e. > > load a list of accounts that are valid that you gateway for envelope > > rejection? > > > > Darrell > > --- > > Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail and Virus - DLAnalyzer - > > http://www.invariantsystems.com. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael Jaworski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:17 PM > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail > > > > > > The price for SM from Declude was great. Even better yet is SmarterMail, > > the > > product. It works. Their able to get things tuned up or added a lot > > quicker > > like Declude. > > > > I am seeing a pattern. I like it when a software company is lean and mean. > > I > > would rather feed a lean cat than a fat cat. First it was WebTrends, then > > Lyris and now Ipswitch. Still trying to figure out how MS fits in this > > picture. Fat cat with a big stick?? > > > > One vote for SmarterMail. > > > > Mike > > > > PS Don't miss the fact their backup servers come with the deal at no > > charge. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert > > Grosshandler > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:23 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail > > > > > > Ok -- time for the question again. > > > > Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? > > > > Comments appreciated. > > > > Rob > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, > > just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe > > Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
> hmm .. .I think I'm confused. You're saying Imail has a way to load user > accounts for gateway systems? All I've ever seen is the host file hack > for adding gateway domains, but I've never seen a way to load user > accounts. Am I missing something? No it does not have this feature built in but Sandy wrote some nifty scripts that make this task a bit easier. > Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway > with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it > could .. Yes, that is absolutly correct - Declude will work on Smartermail. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Not the last time I asked for it. They acted like they could not fathom why we would ever need it, and said they weren't even working on it. So I'm still on Imail. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Does Smartermail have any features built in for gateway based systems - i.e. load a list of accounts that are valid that you gateway for envelope rejection? Darrell --- Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail and Virus - DLAnalyzer - http://www.invariantsystems.com. - Original Message - From: "Michael Jaworski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:17 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail The price for SM from Declude was great. Even better yet is SmarterMail, the product. It works. Their able to get things tuned up or added a lot quicker like Declude. I am seeing a pattern. I like it when a software company is lean and mean. I would rather feed a lean cat than a fat cat. First it was WebTrends, then Lyris and now Ipswitch. Still trying to figure out how MS fits in this picture. Fat cat with a big stick?? One vote for SmarterMail. Mike PS Don't miss the fact their backup servers come with the deal at no charge. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Ok -- time for the question again. Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? Comments appreciated. Rob --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 / Webtrends
Yes, multiple servers (10+) for this site. We are still in the process of evaluation of a few of the major vendors now (Omniture, Web Side Story, etc). Darrell --- invURIBL - Intelligent URI Filtering plug-in for Declude. Block 85% of SPAM with the default configuration. Try it for free - http://www.invariantsystems.com - Original Message - From: "Robert Grosshandler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 / Webtrends > OT -- What are you moving your webtrends install to?? > > Do you use multiple servers? > > Thanks, > > Rob > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
We're doing just that. Using SmartMail's web services we can generate a list of all accounts and aliases on the system. We then just script that list over to our Postfix on a set schedule.ShayneDoes Smartermail have any features built in for gateway based systems - i.e.load a list of accounts that are valid that you gateway for enveloperejection?Darrell
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Why didn't you point your CF server at smartermail? And, if I'm trying to reduce the new systems and learning curves, can I keep Declude Virus and Junkmail going? Thanks for the input. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Robertson Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:31 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail My Imail license is relegated to SMTP traffic generated by a ColdFusion server. SmarterMail took over the public-facing mail chores shortly after Ipswitch killed Imail in favor of ICS. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 / Webtrends
OT -- What are you moving your webtrends install to?? Do you use multiple servers? Thanks, Rob --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Best to download a free copy of SmarterMail to evaluate for yourself. But except for the advanced spam SmarterMail already had these "new" features. Alternate port, On spartermail you can use a different alternate port per domain. Automatic droping of connections in a dictionary attack situation. SPF also was already in SmarterMail... Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of IMail Admin > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:12 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail > > > So how about all the "hot" new features of IMail 8.2? How do > those compare > with similar features in SmarterMail? > > Also, we mostly use IMAP, rather than the web interface. How > does the IMAP > feature in Smartermail compare to Imail? > > For that matter, is there any change to the IMAP feature in Imail > 8.2? I've > always considered their IMAP support a little weak, and I'd be > interested to > know if they've made any improvements. > > Ben > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Grosshandler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:22 PM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail > > > > Ok -- time for the question again. > > > > Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? > > > > Comments appreciated. > > > > Rob > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
So how about all the "hot" new features of IMail 8.2? How do those compare with similar features in SmarterMail? Also, we mostly use IMAP, rather than the web interface. How does the IMAP feature in Smartermail compare to Imail? For that matter, is there any change to the IMAP feature in Imail 8.2? I've always considered their IMAP support a little weak, and I'd be interested to know if they've made any improvements. Ben - Original Message - From: "Robert Grosshandler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail > Ok -- time for the question again. > > Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? > > Comments appreciated. > > Rob > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Does Smartermail have any features built in for gateway based systems - i.e. load a list of accounts that are valid that you gateway for envelope rejection? Darrell --- Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail and Virus - DLAnalyzer - http://www.invariantsystems.com. - Original Message - From: "Michael Jaworski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:17 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail The price for SM from Declude was great. Even better yet is SmarterMail, the product. It works. Their able to get things tuned up or added a lot quicker like Declude. I am seeing a pattern. I like it when a software company is lean and mean. I would rather feed a lean cat than a fat cat. First it was WebTrends, then Lyris and now Ipswitch. Still trying to figure out how MS fits in this picture. Fat cat with a big stick?? One vote for SmarterMail. Mike PS Don't miss the fact their backup servers come with the deal at no charge. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Ok -- time for the question again. Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? Comments appreciated. Rob --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
My Imail license is relegated to SMTP traffic generated by a ColdFusion server. SmarterMail took over the public-facing mail chores shortly after Ipswitch killed Imail in favor of ICS. Second the comment about the web interface. Its as if grownups designed it versus hobbyists. Sounds harsh but you have to see it in action. I still have a Declude Virus and Spam license. May bring back the Virus as I always liked FProt but my antispam went to an ASSP gateway well over a year ago. It manages the spam... not me. And does a dam fine job of it on its own I might add. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Overall we're happy with the combo. Hosting 81 domains/350 users and getting ready to add another 100 or so accounts. We very much prefer SM to Imail. Web interface alone is worth the switch, and we've been able to do some nifty things incorporating automation and other .Net driven features into our company site by using SM's web services. There are still some BIG issues with Declude/SM that seem to be related to file handling. In some instances, Declude's tests will run but the message header and subject don't get modified; the message gets delivered as if no tests were run. Declude acknowledges the problem and is working on it. The only other major shortcoming, in our opinion, is the inability to whitelist authenticated users; but we hear that SmarterMail will address that in their next release. So, it's not perfect yet (grin), but I'll still take it over Imail. Shayne > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Robert Grosshandler > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:23 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail > > Ok -- time for the question again. > > Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? > > Comments appreciated. > > Rob > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be > found at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
The price for SM from Declude was great. Even better yet is SmarterMail, the product. It works. Their able to get things tuned up or added a lot quicker like Declude. I am seeing a pattern. I like it when a software company is lean and mean. I would rather feed a lean cat than a fat cat. First it was WebTrends, then Lyris and now Ipswitch. Still trying to figure out how MS fits in this picture. Fat cat with a big stick?? One vote for SmarterMail. Mike PS Don't miss the fact their backup servers come with the deal at no charge. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:23 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Ok -- time for the question again. Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? Comments appreciated. Rob --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE failure
If their is a space in one of the commands where there should not be per the RFC's during the smtp transaction it will cause this test to be failed. One thing to note Outlook fails this test every time so you should compensate for this. Darrell --- invURIBL - Intelligent URI Filtering plug-in for Declude. Block 85% of SPAM with the default configuration. Try it for free - http://www.invariantsystems.com - Original Message - From: "Katie LaSalle-Lowery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE failure > Can anyone point me at a resource for determining why a message fails > CMDSPACE? > > Thanks, > Katie > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE failure
Can anyone point me at a resource for determining why a message fails CMDSPACE? Thanks, Katie --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
> doubts about the legality of some such provisions in boxed EULA's. I > was on the phone yesterday with WebTrends where they told me that my > copy of their software wasn't legitimate because I wasn't the original > owner and they don't transfer licenses...this is the same company that > moved from differentiating versions/prices of their software based on > functionality to one that was based on the number of profiles that you > had configured, to now basing it on the number of page views that their > reports generate. They even lock you out of their KB unless you have a > support contract with them...Egad! I say let them rot! We were a Webtrends customer until their latest round of pricing change. We were paying about $4K a year in maintenance costs - but than they changed their pricing model as you indicate. It would have costed us about 25 times our normal maintenance cost to continue with 7.0 due to our page view volume. Long story short we are parting ways after our one year grace period of 7.0 ends. I can't really say I am sad - for a high volume site (90+ million page views) I have always had issues keeping the product stable. Unless everything was limited data corruption seemed to be a frequent issue. Boy was I thankful for the archive function in it. Darrell --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Moved 3 installs from Imail to SM/DECLUDE. Wish I would have done it sooner. - Original Message - From: "Robert Grosshandler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:22 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail Ok -- time for the question again. Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? Comments appreciated. Rob --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Ok -- time for the question again. Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration? Comments appreciated. Rob --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
Fwiw, it's the management of WT that's buying it out/back. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
Sandy, Only the arrogant fools at NetIQ could screw up something like Webtrends which was once the best stats tool available. And unless they have changed something recently (which would come as no surprise) they used to transfer licenses no problem. We acquired a company a couple of years ago that owned several copies and they faxed forms to us to transfer the licenses to our company. Sanford Whiteman wrote: I was on the phone yesterday with WebTrends where they told me that my copy of their software wasn't legitimate because I wasn't the original owner and they don't transfer licenses... FTR and way OT, just got finished with my second extended flame mail to NetIQ (WebTrends' former parent) inside sales, based on some ridiculously condescending and secretive pricing discussions re: AppManager. I'd love to see them go down. Of course, it's too late for WebTrends to go down with them, as they've shuttled WT off to a holding company of some sort. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- Best Regards, Steve Oren President ServerSide, Inc. 317-596-5000 voice 317-596-5010 fax 888-682-2544 toll free www.serverside.net --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
> I was on the phone yesterday with WebTrends where they told me that > my copy of their software wasn't legitimate because I wasn't the > original owner and they don't transfer licenses... FTR and way OT, just got finished with my second extended flame mail to NetIQ (WebTrends' former parent) inside sales, based on some ridiculously condescending and secretive pricing discussions re: AppManager. I'd love to see them go down. Of course, it's too late for WebTrends to go down with them, as they've shuttled WT off to a holding company of some sort. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
I guess one of the big questions that I would have would be what would happen if I installed on a new server and then imported my registry settings over to it. Where's the unlocked identifier stuff stored? I'm sure there are many other things as well to be concerned about such as what came up around here in the MAC address discussion with Declude and SmarterMail... Anyway, I guess I am kind of insulted that Ipswitch would move to do this after sticking it to us. Based on a conversation that I had with a lawyer friend of mine, he indicated that Ipswitch's first move to stop offering upgrades for IMail for service agreement holders while just simply re-bundling the product was likely indefensible. So where's the key that we can use to keep them from screwing us? I'm one of those guys that doesn't like to jump through ridiculous hoops to use a piece of software. The only stuff that I don't pay for is stuff that I can't justify spending money on, which means they aren't mission critical or I am just testing stuff out and can't justify purchasing them up front. Excessive protections on such software has a negative effect with people like myself since I will probably not become familiar with such software so they will likely never get my money. It's like shrink-wrapping a book. I think that reasonable protections should be in there such as personally identifiable license keys and even phoning home, but I for instance have no clue as to how to migrate Windows 2003 from one box to another without doing more research, and I would hate to have to do this in an emergency. The same goes for IMail. If everyone was responsible about this stuff I wouldn't be concerned but that clearly isn't the case. I'm also very much against software and hardware being sold under a non-transferable license. I will avoid such things whenever possible now. If software isn't transferable, it should be sold as a service and not as a piece of software, and hardware should be leased. To give the impression of ownership by calling it otherwise is wrong, and I have my doubts about the legality of some such provisions in boxed EULA's. I was on the phone yesterday with WebTrends where they told me that my copy of their software wasn't legitimate because I wasn't the original owner and they don't transfer licenses...this is the same company that moved from differentiating versions/prices of their software based on functionality to one that was based on the number of profiles that you had configured, to now basing it on the number of page views that their reports generate. They even lock you out of their KB unless you have a support contract with them...Egad! I say let them rot! Although their software is generally very good, like Ipswitch they are getting killed by much lower prices software that is less restrictive, in fact SmarterStats is one of their competitors for a fraction of the price. They won't survive doing business like that. Even Cisco risks/experiences a loss of market share, and when that happens, they will be so deep in the doo-doo that they wouldn't be able to afford to back away from the non-transferable licenses. Matt William Stillwell wrote: When I insalled 8.2 All it required was a "License" # no dongle or anything. I beleive it did a phone hope type deal like declude. There are several methods to software "Licensing" It is cheaper to actually purchase a third party license system, then to develope your own. - Original Message - From: "Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 On 28 Apr 2005 at 12:4, Colbeck, Andrew wrote: They have a website - http://www.aladdin.com/ They have a hardware bases and some sort of client/server/phone-in setup which I did not understand. -Nick I'm always interested in the details of protection mechanisms. Not because I'm a pirate, but becausethose mechansimscan be anunnecessary interference that can be very painful to work through. And there is no information in Ipswitch's kb, forums, or general Googling for what this is. Ipswitch in particular, but generally also, I do not trust software enough to go and put upgrades directly ona production server. And doubly never on a customer-facing server! Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:03 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Just out of curiosity, what's the issue with eAladdin? Can it cause problems, or is it just excessive in one way or another? Thanks, Matt Colbeck, Andrew wrote: I agree, Andy, those features caught my eye too. But so did: ¢ eAladdin now used for licensing. I really want the multithreaded SMTPD, but I'll be waiting a good while before trying this version. The block connections after x bad recipients may be enough incentive
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
Thanks for pointing that out, Nick. It's the lack of Ipswitch documentation and discussion regarding the implementation of Aladdin's technology that bugs me. Aladdin themselves are a well-known and well-respected company. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:29 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 On 28 Apr 2005 at 12:4, Colbeck, Andrew wrote: They have a website - http://www.aladdin.com/ They have a hardware bases and some sort of client/server/phone-in setup which I did not understand. -Nick > I'm always interested in the details of protection mechanisms. Not > because I'm a pirate, but becausethose mechansimscan be anunnecessary > interference that can be very painful to work through. And there is no > information in Ipswitch's kb, forums, or general Googling for what > this is. > > Ipswitch in particular, but generally also, I do not trust software > enough to go and put upgrades directly ona production server. And > doubly never on a customer-facing server! > > Andrew 8) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 > 12:03 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: > [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 > > Just out of curiosity, what's the issue with eAladdin? Can it cause > problems, or is it just excessive in one way or another? > > Thanks, > > Matt > > > > Colbeck, Andrew wrote: > I agree, Andy, those features caught my eye too. But so did: > > ¢ eAladdin now used for licensing. > > I really want the multithreaded SMTPD, but I'll be waiting a good > while before trying this version. The block connections after x bad > recipients may be enough incentive for me to finally implement Sandy's > Exchange2Aliases! > > Andrew 8) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Thursday, April > 28, 2005 7:28 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: > [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 > > Wow ... > > this is the FIRST time in very many years that I actually am pleased > what they added. > > Does anyone know if the "SPF connection filtering" truly is DURING the > SMTP conversation? If so, will it by bypassed if SMTP AUTH is > used?That alone would receive my message load by about 5%. > > Anyway, lots of stuff that I've been waiting for - now the question > is, will I dare to upgrade before 8.2.5 is available . ¢ Secure > Socket Layer for POP, IMAP,SMTP. ¢ SPF - IMail connection > filtering ¢ SMTPD is now multi-threaded and has been re-designed > for better performance and stability. ¢ SMTPD can now listen on all IP > addresses or only those configured. ¢ IMail no longer uses Winsock > 1.1. All programs now use Winsock 2. ¢ SMTPD can now block connections > after max invalid recipients reached. ¢ SMTPD will close a connection > after the maximum number of invalid recipients have been reached. ¢ > Support for additional listen port in SMTPD > > > > Best Regards > Andy Schmidt > > Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) > Fax: +1 201 934-9206 > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Thursday, April 28, > 2005 07:52 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: > [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 > > A question for Declude... > > Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20? > > -- > = > MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. > http://www.mailpure.com/software/ > = --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
When I insalled 8.2 All it required was a "License" # no dongle or anything. I beleive it did a phone hope type deal like declude. There are several methods to software "Licensing" It is cheaper to actually purchase a third party license system, then to develope your own. - Original Message - From: "Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 On 28 Apr 2005 at 12:4, Colbeck, Andrew wrote: They have a website - http://www.aladdin.com/ They have a hardware bases and some sort of client/server/phone-in setup which I did not understand. -Nick I'm always interested in the details of protection mechanisms. Not because I'm a pirate, but becausethose mechansimscan be anunnecessary interference that can be very painful to work through. And there is no information in Ipswitch's kb, forums, or general Googling for what this is. Ipswitch in particular, but generally also, I do not trust software enough to go and put upgrades directly ona production server. And doubly never on a customer-facing server! Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:03 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Just out of curiosity, what's the issue with eAladdin? Can it cause problems, or is it just excessive in one way or another? Thanks, Matt Colbeck, Andrew wrote: I agree, Andy, those features caught my eye too. But so did: ¢ eAladdin now used for licensing. I really want the multithreaded SMTPD, but I'll be waiting a good while before trying this version. The block connections after x bad recipients may be enough incentive for me to finally implement Sandy's Exchange2Aliases! Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:28 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Wow ... this is the FIRST time in very many years that I actually am pleased what they added. Does anyone know if the "SPF connection filtering" truly is DURING the SMTP conversation? If so, will it by bypassed if SMTP AUTH is used?That alone would receive my message load by about 5%. Anyway, lots of stuff that I've been waiting for - now the question is, will I dare to upgrade before 8.2.5 is available . ¢ Secure Socket Layer for POP, IMAP,SMTP. ¢ SPF - IMail connection filtering ¢ SMTPD is now multi-threaded and has been re-designed for better performance and stability. ¢ SMTPD can now listen on all IP addresses or only those configured. ¢ IMail no longer uses Winsock 1.1. All programs now use Winsock 2. ¢ SMTPD can now block connections after max invalid recipients reached. ¢ SMTPD will close a connection after the maximum number of invalid recipients have been reached. ¢ Support for additional listen port in SMTPD Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 07:52 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20? -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This email has been scanned for possible viruses by Declude Antivirus. For more information on Declude Antivirus, Visit www.declude.com --- This email has been scanned for possible viruses by Declude Antivirus. For more information on Declude Antivirus, Visit www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
On 28 Apr 2005 at 12:4, Colbeck, Andrew wrote: They have a website - http://www.aladdin.com/ They have a hardware bases and some sort of client/server/phone-in setup which I did not understand. -Nick > I'm always interested in the details of protection mechanisms. Not > because I'm a pirate, but becausethose mechansimscan be anunnecessary > interference that can be very painful to work through. And there is no > information in Ipswitch's kb, forums, or general Googling for what > this is. > > Ipswitch in particular, but generally also, I do not trust software > enough to go and put upgrades directly ona production server. And > doubly never on a customer-facing server! > > Andrew 8) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 > 12:03 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: > [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 > > Just out of curiosity, what's the issue with eAladdin? Can it cause > problems, or is it just excessive in one way or another? > > Thanks, > > Matt > > > > Colbeck, Andrew wrote: > I agree, Andy, those features caught my eye too. But so did: > > ¢ eAladdin now used for licensing. > > I really want the multithreaded SMTPD, but I'll be waiting a good > while before trying this version. The block connections after x bad > recipients may be enough incentive for me to finally implement Sandy's > Exchange2Aliases! > > Andrew 8) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Thursday, April > 28, 2005 7:28 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: > [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 > > Wow ... > > this is the FIRST time in very many years that I actually am pleased > what they added. > > Does anyone know if the "SPF connection filtering" truly is DURING the > SMTP conversation? If so, will it by bypassed if SMTP AUTH is > used?That alone would receive my message load by about 5%. > > Anyway, lots of stuff that I've been waiting for - now the question > is, will I dare to upgrade before 8.2.5 is available . ¢ Secure > Socket Layer for POP, IMAP,SMTP. ¢ SPF - IMail connection > filtering ¢ SMTPD is now multi-threaded and has been re-designed > for better performance and stability. ¢ SMTPD can now listen on all IP > addresses or only those configured. ¢ IMail no longer uses Winsock > 1.1. All programs now use Winsock 2. ¢ SMTPD can now block connections > after max invalid recipients reached. ¢ SMTPD will close a connection > after the maximum number of invalid recipients have been reached. ¢ > Support for additional listen port in SMTPD > > > > Best Regards > Andy Schmidt > > Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) > Fax: +1 201 934-9206 > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Thursday, April 28, > 2005 07:52 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: > [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 > > A question for Declude... > > Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20? > > -- > = > MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. > http://www.mailpure.com/software/ > = --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
Title: Message I'm always interested in the details of protection mechanisms. Not because I'm a pirate, but because those mechansims can be an unnecessary interference that can be very painful to work through. And there is no information in Ipswitch's kb, forums, or general Googling for what this is. Ipswitch in particular, but generally also, I do not trust software enough to go and put upgrades directly on a production server. And doubly never on a customer-facing server! Andrew 8) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:03 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20Just out of curiosity, what's the issue with eAladdin? Can it cause problems, or is it just excessive in one way or another?Thanks,MattColbeck, Andrew wrote: I agree, Andy, those features caught my eye too. But so did: • eAladdin now used for licensing. I really want the multithreaded SMTPD, but I'll be waiting a good while before trying this version. The block connections after x bad recipients may be enough incentive for me to finally implement Sandy's Exchange2Aliases! Andrew 8) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:28 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Wow ... this is the FIRST time in very many years that I actually am pleased what they added. Does anyone know if the "SPF connection filtering" truly is DURING the SMTP conversation? If so, will it by bypassed if SMTP AUTH is used? That alone would receive my message load by about 5%. Anyway, lots of stuff that I've been waiting for - now the question is, will I dare to upgrade before 8.2.5 is available . • Secure Socket Layer for POP, IMAP, SMTP.• SPF - IMail connection filtering • SMTPD is now multi-threaded and has been re-designed for better performance and stability.• SMTPD can now listen on all IP addresses or only those configured.• IMail no longer uses Winsock 1.1. All programs now use Winsock 2.• SMTPD can now block connections after max invalid recipients reached.• SMTPD will close a connection after the maximum number of invalid recipients have been reached. • Support for additional listen port in SMTPD Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 07:52 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?-- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
Just out of curiosity, what's the issue with eAladdin? Can it cause problems, or is it just excessive in one way or another? Thanks, Matt Colbeck, Andrew wrote: Message I agree, Andy, those features caught my eye too. But so did: • eAladdin now used for licensing. I really want the multithreaded SMTPD, but I'll be waiting a good while before trying this version. The block connections after x bad recipients may be enough incentive for me to finally implement Sandy's Exchange2Aliases! Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:28 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Wow ... this is the FIRST time in very many years that I actually am pleased what they added. Does anyone know if the "SPF connection filtering" truly is DURING the SMTP conversation? If so, will it by bypassed if SMTP AUTH is used? That alone would receive my message load by about 5%. Anyway, lots of stuff that I've been waiting for - now the question is, will I dare to upgrade before 8.2.5 is available . • Secure Socket Layer for POP, IMAP, SMTP. • SPF - IMail connection filtering • SMTPD is now multi-threaded and has been re-designed for better performance and stability. • SMTPD can now listen on all IP addresses or only those configured. • IMail no longer uses Winsock 1.1. All programs now use Winsock 2. • SMTPD can now block connections after max invalid recipients reached. • SMTPD will close a connection after the maximum number of invalid recipients have been reached. • Support for additional listen port in SMTPD Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 07:52 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20? -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
Title: Message I agree, Andy, those features caught my eye too. But so did: • eAladdin now used for licensing. I really want the multithreaded SMTPD, but I'll be waiting a good while before trying this version. The block connections after x bad recipients may be enough incentive for me to finally implement Sandy's Exchange2Aliases! Andrew 8) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:28 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Wow ... this is the FIRST time in very many years that I actually am pleased what they added. Does anyone know if the "SPF connection filtering" truly is DURING the SMTP conversation? If so, will it by bypassed if SMTP AUTH is used? That alone would receive my message load by about 5%. Anyway, lots of stuff that I've been waiting for - now the question is, will I dare to upgrade before 8.2.5 is available . • Secure Socket Layer for POP, IMAP, SMTP.• SPF - IMail connection filtering • SMTPD is now multi-threaded and has been re-designed for better performance and stability.• SMTPD can now listen on all IP addresses or only those configured.• IMail no longer uses Winsock 1.1. All programs now use Winsock 2.• SMTPD can now block connections after max invalid recipients reached.• SMTPD will close a connection after the maximum number of invalid recipients have been reached. • Support for additional listen port in SMTPD Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 07:52 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
There is really no problem posting this to the JunkMail list. But, since it is specifically an IMail problem, make sure it is at least cross-posted to the IMail list also. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: William Stillwell To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I wasn't reffering to declude not working, There is an issue with the odbc with an external database, I was just informing people there is a "Slight" issue with it. I have posted the resolution for those that are not aware. Other than that, declude appears to be working fine here. - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 These types of errors are not related to Declude. Authentication is handled directly with IMail during the SMTP dialogue. This issue has already surfaced in the IMail forum. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: William Stillwell To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I just upgraded.. NOT WORKING.. I am getting AUTH errors on sending to local users, and 550 Errors.. - Original Message - From: Jeff Frantz To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded to v8.2 this morning and have had no issues. Im running Declude Virus and Junkmail v2.0.6. -Jeff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan HorneSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:07 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded yesterday to Imail 8.2 and so far the phones aren't ringing off the hooks. No reported problems from any of our users. I've tailed the logs and they all seem normal. I am running Declude Junkmail Pro/Virus Standard/Hijack 2.0.6. Dan Horne From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:39 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Scott, No, Declude has not yet been tested with Imail 8.2, although we expect to begin some testing very shortly. We have been in the process of resolving some outstanding issues and preparing to do an interim release. It would have been counter-productive to introduce a new IMail platform in the midst of all of this. We are aware of a problem with one customer who has tried to use Declude with the beta of IMail 8.2 (attachment corruption). This customer also had problems with smtpd32 repeatedly going down, although this is not likely related to Declude. As soon as we have started testing and have any feedback regarding the results, we will post them for you. If any of you have any feedback you would like to provide to us, we would appreciate your letting us know about it. Thanks. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
I wasn't reffering to declude not working, There is an issue with the odbc with an external database, I was just informing people there is a "Slight" issue with it. I have posted the resolution for those that are not aware. Other than that, declude appears to be working fine here. - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 These types of errors are not related to Declude. Authentication is handled directly with IMail during the SMTP dialogue. This issue has already surfaced in the IMail forum. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: William Stillwell To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I just upgraded.. NOT WORKING.. I am getting AUTH errors on sending to local users, and 550 Errors.. - Original Message - From: Jeff Frantz To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded to v8.2 this morning and have had no issues. Im running Declude Virus and Junkmail v2.0.6. -Jeff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan HorneSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:07 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded yesterday to Imail 8.2 and so far the phones aren't ringing off the hooks. No reported problems from any of our users. I've tailed the logs and they all seem normal. I am running Declude Junkmail Pro/Virus Standard/Hijack 2.0.6. Dan Horne From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:39 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Scott, No, Declude has not yet been tested with Imail 8.2, although we expect to begin some testing very shortly. We have been in the process of resolving some outstanding issues and preparing to do an interim release. It would have been counter-productive to introduce a new IMail platform in the midst of all of this. We are aware of a problem with one customer who has tried to use Declude with the beta of IMail 8.2 (attachment corruption). This customer also had problems with smtpd32 repeatedly going down, although this is not likely related to Declude. As soon as we have started testing and have any feedback regarding the results, we will post them for you. If any of you have any feedback you would like to provide to us, we would appreciate your letting us know about it. Thanks. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 ** BUG **
Hey, If your using an External Database MAKE sure you fix it. http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20050427-DM03.htm - Original Message - From: Jeff Frantz To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded to v8.2 this morning and have had no issues. Im running Declude Virus and Junkmail v2.0.6. -Jeff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan HorneSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:07 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded yesterday to Imail 8.2 and so far the phones aren't ringing off the hooks. No reported problems from any of our users. I've tailed the logs and they all seem normal. I am running Declude Junkmail Pro/Virus Standard/Hijack 2.0.6. Dan Horne From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:39 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Scott, No, Declude has not yet been tested with Imail 8.2, although we expect to begin some testing very shortly. We have been in the process of resolving some outstanding issues and preparing to do an interim release. It would have been counter-productive to introduce a new IMail platform in the midst of all of this. We are aware of a problem with one customer who has tried to use Declude with the beta of IMail 8.2 (attachment corruption). This customer also had problems with smtpd32 repeatedly going down, although this is not likely related to Declude. As soon as we have started testing and have any feedback regarding the results, we will post them for you. If any of you have any feedback you would like to provide to us, we would appreciate your letting us know about it. Thanks. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
A quick, information filled response. Thanks! - Original Message - From: David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Scott, No, Declude has not yet been tested with Imail 8.2, although we expect to begin some testing very shortly. We have been in the process of resolving some outstanding issues and preparing to do an interim release. It would have been counter-productive to introduce a new IMail platform in the midst of all of this. We are aware of a problem with one customer who has tried to use Declude with the beta of IMail 8.2 (attachment corruption). This customer also had problems with smtpd32 repeatedly going down, although this is not likely related to Declude. As soon as we have started testing and have any feedback regarding the results, we will post them for you. If any of you have any feedback you would like to provide to us, we would appreciate your letting us know about it. Thanks. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
These types of errors are not related to Declude. Authentication is handled directly with IMail during the SMTP dialogue. This issue has already surfaced in the IMail forum. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: William Stillwell To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I just upgraded.. NOT WORKING.. I am getting AUTH errors on sending to local users, and 550 Errors.. - Original Message - From: Jeff Frantz To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded to v8.2 this morning and have had no issues. Im running Declude Virus and Junkmail v2.0.6. -Jeff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan HorneSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:07 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded yesterday to Imail 8.2 and so far the phones aren't ringing off the hooks. No reported problems from any of our users. I've tailed the logs and they all seem normal. I am running Declude Junkmail Pro/Virus Standard/Hijack 2.0.6. Dan Horne From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:39 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Scott, No, Declude has not yet been tested with Imail 8.2, although we expect to begin some testing very shortly. We have been in the process of resolving some outstanding issues and preparing to do an interim release. It would have been counter-productive to introduce a new IMail platform in the midst of all of this. We are aware of a problem with one customer who has tried to use Declude with the beta of IMail 8.2 (attachment corruption). This customer also had problems with smtpd32 repeatedly going down, although this is not likely related to Declude. As soon as we have started testing and have any feedback regarding the results, we will post them for you. If any of you have any feedback you would like to provide to us, we would appreciate your letting us know about it. Thanks. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
Hi, There is a knowledge base entry about a new ODBC DLL. If you keep your user base in SQL, make sure that you get the latest DLL. Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William StillwellSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:29 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I just upgraded.. NOT WORKING.. I am getting AUTH errors on sending to local users, and 550 Errors.. - Original Message - From: Jeff Frantz To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded to v8.2 this morning and have had no issues. I’m running Declude Virus and Junkmail v2.0.6. -Jeff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan HorneSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:07 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded yesterday to Imail 8.2 and so far the phones aren't ringing off the hooks. No reported problems from any of our users. I've tailed the logs and they all seem normal. I am running Declude Junkmail Pro/Virus Standard/Hijack 2.0.6. Dan Horne From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:39 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Scott, No, Declude has not yet been tested with Imail 8.2, although we expect to begin some testing very shortly. We have been in the process of resolving some outstanding issues and preparing to do an interim release. It would have been counter-productive to introduce a new IMail platform in the midst of all of this. We are aware of a problem with one customer who has tried to use Declude with the beta of IMail 8.2 (attachment corruption). This customer also had problems with smtpd32 repeatedly going down, although this is not likely related to Declude. As soon as we have started testing and have any feedback regarding the results, we will post them for you. If any of you have any feedback you would like to provide to us, we would appreciate your letting us know about it. Thanks. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
I just upgraded.. NOT WORKING.. I am getting AUTH errors on sending to local users, and 550 Errors.. - Original Message - From: Jeff Frantz To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded to v8.2 this morning and have had no issues. Im running Declude Virus and Junkmail v2.0.6. -Jeff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan HorneSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:07 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded yesterday to Imail 8.2 and so far the phones aren't ringing off the hooks. No reported problems from any of our users. I've tailed the logs and they all seem normal. I am running Declude Junkmail Pro/Virus Standard/Hijack 2.0.6. Dan Horne From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:39 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Scott, No, Declude has not yet been tested with Imail 8.2, although we expect to begin some testing very shortly. We have been in the process of resolving some outstanding issues and preparing to do an interim release. It would have been counter-productive to introduce a new IMail platform in the midst of all of this. We are aware of a problem with one customer who has tried to use Declude with the beta of IMail 8.2 (attachment corruption). This customer also had problems with smtpd32 repeatedly going down, although this is not likely related to Declude. As soon as we have started testing and have any feedback regarding the results, we will post them for you. If any of you have any feedback you would like to provide to us, we would appreciate your letting us know about it. Thanks. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
Wow ... this is the FIRST time in very many years that I actually am pleased what they added. Does anyone know if the "SPF connection filtering" truly is DURING the SMTP conversation? If so, will it by bypassed if SMTP AUTH is used? That alone would receive my message load by about 5%. Anyway, lots of stuff that I've been waiting for - now the question is, will I dare to upgrade before 8.2.5 is available . • Secure Socket Layer for POP, IMAP, SMTP.• SPF - IMail connection filtering • SMTPD is now multi-threaded and has been re-designed for better performance and stability.• SMTPD can now listen on all IP addresses or only those configured.• IMail no longer uses Winsock 1.1. All programs now use Winsock 2.• SMTPD can now block connections after max invalid recipients reached.• SMTPD will close a connection after the maximum number of invalid recipients have been reached. • Support for additional listen port in SMTPD Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 07:52 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
I upgraded to v8.2 this morning and have had no issues. I’m running Declude Virus and Junkmail v2.0.6. -Jeff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:07 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 I upgraded yesterday to Imail 8.2 and so far the phones aren't ringing off the hooks. No reported problems from any of our users. I've tailed the logs and they all seem normal. I am running Declude Junkmail Pro/Virus Standard/Hijack 2.0.6. Dan Horne From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:39 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Scott, No, Declude has not yet been tested with Imail 8.2, although we expect to begin some testing very shortly. We have been in the process of resolving some outstanding issues and preparing to do an interim release. It would have been counter-productive to introduce a new IMail platform in the midst of all of this. We are aware of a problem with one customer who has tried to use Declude with the beta of IMail 8.2 (attachment corruption). This customer also had problems with smtpd32 repeatedly going down, although this is not likely related to Declude. As soon as we have started testing and have any feedback regarding the results, we will post them for you. If any of you have any feedback you would like to provide to us, we would appreciate your letting us know about it. Thanks. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
I upgraded yesterday to Imail 8.2 and so far the phones aren't ringing off the hooks. No reported problems from any of our users. I've tailed the logs and they all seem normal. I am running Declude Junkmail Pro/Virus Standard/Hijack 2.0.6. Dan Horne From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:39 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 Scott, No, Declude has not yet been tested with Imail 8.2, although we expect to begin some testing very shortly. We have been in the process of resolving some outstanding issues and preparing to do an interim release. It would have been counter-productive to introduce a new IMail platform in the midst of all of this. We are aware of a problem with one customer who has tried to use Declude with the beta of IMail 8.2 (attachment corruption). This customer also had problems with smtpd32 repeatedly going down, although this is not likely related to Declude. As soon as we have started testing and have any feedback regarding the results, we will post them for you. If any of you have any feedback you would like to provide to us, we would appreciate your letting us know about it. Thanks. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
Scott, No, Declude has not yet been tested with Imail 8.2, although we expect to begin some testing very shortly. We have been in the process of resolving some outstanding issues and preparing to do an interim release. It would have been counter-productive to introduce a new IMail platform in the midst of all of this. We are aware of a problem with one customer who has tried to use Declude with the beta of IMail 8.2 (attachment corruption). This customer also had problems with smtpd32 repeatedly going down, although this is not likely related to Declude. As soon as we have started testing and have any feedback regarding the results, we will post them for you. If any of you have any feedback you would like to provide to us, we would appreciate your letting us know about it. Thanks. David Franco-Rocha - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20 A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
[Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.20
A question for Declude... Has Declude been tested with Imail 8.20?
