RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
How many user mailboxes do you have? The pricing of some outsourced solutions which have a per mailbox fee might actually be lower now that Declude is also an annual required payment. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:49 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... Yep. at that price it's time to move to something else or build our own system. Declude, come back with something reasonable or you'll lose customers like IMail did. Darin. - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what is up with Declude 4. I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and Hijaak). Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. Although long term how long will they support two different code sets? I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey especially compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so flexible that you can do many different things... I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively affected by these changes. - Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies 191 S Gary Ave Carol Stream, IL 60188 630-462-2323 This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter
Title: Message You don’t put that in the GLOBAL.CFG In GLOBAL.CFG COMBO-CMDSPACE-SNIFFER filter C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Combo_CMDSPACE_Sniffer.txt x 0 0 In the file called COMBO_CMD_SPACE.TXT TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS BYPASS # Did it Fail CMDSPACE TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS CMDSPACE # It failed CMDSPACE now check Sniffer TESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS SNIFFER And in all the $DEFAULT$.JUNKMAIL.TXT files COMBO-CMDSPACE-SNIFFER WARN I Tag @ 10 and Delete @ 30. Adjust paths as required. Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:43 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter Where do I put these lines in my config files ? Karl Drugge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:45 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter You the Man! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:39 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter Here you go TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS BYPASS # Did it Fail CMDSPACE TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS CMDSPACE # It failed CMDSPACE now check Sniffer TESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS SNIFFER Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions -- PLEASE NOTE : Florida has a very broad public records law. Most written communications to or from City officials regarding City business are public records available to the public and media upon request. Your E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. PLEASE NOTE : Florida has a very broad public records law. Most written communications to or from City officials regarding City business are public records available to the public and media upon request. Your E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Count me as one of those who didn't get the initial message. As an aside, I think it would be logical that when you're posting pricing/structuring/packaging changes, to make sure you have someone right on top of the support list. The rumors are often worse than the reality, and a lot of people are really paranoid after the IMail fiasco a year ago. Ben BC Web P.S. You know, I renewed our SA last June, and I'm still waiting for a stable upgrade I can download and install. I hope my SA doesn't run out first... - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude > In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email > sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at > Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: > > * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. > * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements. > * No customer is required to move to 4.0 > > Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and > 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the > 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements. > > I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the > email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact > me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. > > Barry > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Hi, Oh, I got that email - but that was just very generic and doesn't address these issues? I've been waiting to see what information will appear on the web site or on this list. Can't be effective to have to speak to every customer on the phone? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george kulman Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 06:53 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude Hi Andy, Like you, I didn't get the e-mail from Barry. I did do as Kevin suggested in an earlier e-mail in this thread and called Barry. We had a very pleasant conversation during which he explained everything to me and answered all of my questions to my satisfaction. It's too bad that so many of us (and seemingly the vocal ones) didn't receive the original explanatory email. This thread would never have gotten to this point. George > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:19 PM > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude > > Hi Kevin, > > I understand what you're saying - you believe Declude 4.0 is really > just a "Declude 3.x Suite" vs. the Declude 3.x "legacy products". New > customers can only purchase the Suite, while old customers will > continue to upgrade their individual products. The code base is the same. > > In that case, the confusion stems from using a "version numbering" > scheme, instead of using a proper "packaging" scheme. > > This would be comparable to what IpSwitch did eventually. New > customers have to buy the bloated Imail suite, while existing > customers can continue buy service agreements for the Imail mail server product. > > Let's see if Declude can confirm your understanding. > > Then we'll just have to find out what the "subscription" is. Is it a > "service agreement subscription" (where you can continue to use the > existing product version, even if the subscription is not renewed), or > if it is a "license subscription" (where your license terminates if > you fail to renew at some point). > > > Best Regards > Andy Schmidt > > Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) > Fax:+1 201 934-9206 > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 04:20 PM > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude > > > Declude 4.x is all the products in one with a common license key and > are not seperatable. > > On the buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in > parity feature wise. > > > Kevin Bilbee > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Schmidt > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:02 AM > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude > Importance: High > > > Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 IS? > > I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been days since I > receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen > anything on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be > buying - or, what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy? > > > Best Regards > Andy Schmidt > > Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) > Fax:+1 201 934-9206 > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 PM > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude > > > > In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the > email sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening > here at Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: > > > > * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. > > * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service > Agreements. > > * No customer is required to move to 4.0 > > > > Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 > and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move > to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service > Agreements. > > > > I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me > since the email was sent out and if any one has any further questions > they can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. > > > > Barry --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Hi Andy, Like you, I didn't get the e-mail from Barry. I did do as Kevin suggested in an earlier e-mail in this thread and called Barry. We had a very pleasant conversation during which he explained everything to me and answered all of my questions to my satisfaction. It's too bad that so many of us (and seemingly the vocal ones) didn't receive the original explanatory email. This thread would never have gotten to this point. George > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:19 PM > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude > > Hi Kevin, > > I understand what you're saying - you believe Declude 4.0 is really just a > "Declude 3.x Suite" vs. the Declude 3.x "legacy products". New customers > can only purchase the Suite, while old customers will continue to upgrade > their individual products. The code base is the same. > > In that case, the confusion stems from using a "version numbering" scheme, > instead of using a proper "packaging" scheme. > > This would be comparable to what IpSwitch did eventually. New customers > have to buy the bloated Imail suite, while existing customers can continue > buy service agreements for the Imail mail server product. > > Let's see if Declude can confirm your understanding. > > Then we'll just have to find out what the "subscription" is. Is it a > "service agreement subscription" (where you can continue to use the > existing product version, even if the subscription is not renewed), or if > it is a "license subscription" (where your license terminates if you fail > to renew at some point). > > > Best Regards > Andy Schmidt > > Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) > Fax:+1 201 934-9206 > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 04:20 PM > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude > > > Declude 4.x is all the products in one with a common license key and are > not seperatable. > > On the buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in > parity feature wise. > > > Kevin Bilbee > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Schmidt > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:02 AM > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude > Importance: High > > > Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 IS? > > I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been days since I > receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen anything > on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be buying - or, > what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy? > > > Best Regards > Andy Schmidt > > Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) > Fax:+1 201 934-9206 > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 PM > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude > > > > In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the > email sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening > here at Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: > > > > * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual > pricing. > > * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service > Agreements. > > * No customer is required to move to 4.0 > > > > Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both > 3.0 and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move > to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service > Agreements. > > > > I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me > since the email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they > can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. > > > > Barry --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
I am just regurgitating what Barry told me over the phone. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:19 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude Hi Kevin, I understand what you're saying - you believe Declude 4.0 is really just a "Declude 3.x Suite" vs. the Declude 3.x "legacy products". New customers can only purchase the Suite, while old customers will continue to upgrade their individual products. The code base is the same. In that case, the confusion stems from using a "version numbering" scheme, instead of using a proper "packaging" scheme. This would be comparable to what IpSwitch did eventually. New customers have to buy the bloated Imail suite, while existing customers can continue buy service agreements for the Imail mail server product. Let's see if Declude can confirm your understanding. Then we'll just have to find out what the "subscription" is. Is it a "service agreement subscription" (where you can continue to use the existing product version, even if the subscription is not renewed), or if it is a "license subscription" (where your license terminates if you fail to renew at some point). Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 04:20 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude Declude 4.x is all the products in one with a common license key and are not seperatable. On the buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in parity feature wise. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:02 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ DecludeImportance: High Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 IS? I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been days since I receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen anything on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be buying - or, what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy? Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements. * No customer is required to move to 4.0 Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements. I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. Barry
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude
In my conversation with Barry and with Smartermail support the mail box action should now work. I have not tested it yet. Kevin > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Green dfn > Systems > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:29 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude > > > Great! :-) > > Only one feature to go! > > I'm hoping the new SMTP Plus and POP Plus will enable Declude's Mailbox > Action to work. > > Bill Green > dfn Systems > > > > - Original Message - > > Automatic Whitelisting per user from the recipient's Web Messaging > Address Book > ->> As far as I know, this has been supported for quite sometime by > Deculde / SmarterMail. > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude
Great! :-) Only one feature to go! I'm hoping the new SMTP Plus and POP Plus will enable Declude's Mailbox Action to work. Bill Green dfn Systems - Original Message - Automatic Whitelisting per user from the recipient's Web Messaging Address Book ->> As far as I know, this has been supported for quite sometime by Deculde / SmarterMail. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Hi Kevin, I understand what you're saying - you believe Declude 4.0 is really just a "Declude 3.x Suite" vs. the Declude 3.x "legacy products". New customers can only purchase the Suite, while old customers will continue to upgrade their individual products. The code base is the same. In that case, the confusion stems from using a "version numbering" scheme, instead of using a proper "packaging" scheme. This would be comparable to what IpSwitch did eventually. New customers have to buy the bloated Imail suite, while existing customers can continue buy service agreements for the Imail mail server product. Let's see if Declude can confirm your understanding. Then we'll just have to find out what the "subscription" is. Is it a "service agreement subscription" (where you can continue to use the existing product version, even if the subscription is not renewed), or if it is a "license subscription" (where your license terminates if you fail to renew at some point). Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 04:20 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude Declude 4.x is all the products in one with a common license key and are not seperatable. On the buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in parity feature wise. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:02 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ DecludeImportance: High Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 IS? I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been days since I receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen anything on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be buying - or, what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy? Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements. * No customer is required to move to 4.0 Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements. I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. Barry
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude
Automatic Whitelisting per user from the recipient's Web Messaging Address Book ->> As far as I know, this has been supported for quite sometime by Deculde / SmarterMail. -Jay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:58 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude Now that SmarterMail 3.0 is released, I have been perusing their site as well as Declude's site to see if the new integrated functionality and features provide the last two pieces I have been waiting for. Action - Mailbox -- send spam by weight to users web spam folder Automatic Whitelisting per user from the recipient's Web Messaging Address Book Can any early adopters enlighten me? Bill Green dfn Systems --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude
Now that SmarterMail 3.0 is released, I have been perusing their site as well as Declude's site to see if the new integrated functionality and features provide the last two pieces I have been waiting for. Action - Mailbox -- send spam by weight to users web spam folder Automatic Whitelisting per user from the recipient's Web Messaging Address Book Can any early adopters enlighten me? Bill Green dfn Systems --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Didn't get any notification here either. Bill - Original Message - From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude Barry, I didn't get the E-mail that you mentioned. I'm also wondering about what the terms are in 4.0 for new agreements. The terminology changes from "Service Agreements" to "Subscription". Those things can have different meanings in this industry. A "Subscription" suggests expiration of the product, at least to me. If that is not the case, you might want to clarify that on your site. Thanks, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements. * No customer is required to move to 4.0 Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements. I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. Barry --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Text of Changes @ Declude that was sent to on Tuesday.
"Dear Michael, Starting this month product and pricing is changing to reflect the structures used by SmarterMail and IMail. That is to say we are moving to a Domain/User based structure that more accurately reflects the usage by our customers. Other changes include: - Product format - A single product that contains the Pro versions of JunkMail and EVA and the Standard version of HiJack. - Pricing - We are moving from the current upfront charge with an annual service agreement to an annual subscription fee which includes software, support and updates to both virus signatures and Declude. This version of Declude will be released under Version 4.0. The first question that you are probably asking is, how does this affect me? We recognize your importance to our future and we will do everything within our means to avoid jeopardizing that relationship. To that end we have structured two options for you to consider: - You can upgrade at a special price to the PRO version of JunkMail and EVA and the Standard version of HiJack and continue to pay an annual Service Agreement. - You can remain with your current version and continue to pay the annual Service Agreement fee as you do today. Click here http://www.declude.com/myaccount.asp to see your host record and the special price. If you have any questions please call us (978) 499-2933 between 8am and 5pm Eastern Time, Monday through Friday. Best regards Barry Barry Simpson" As I am a JunkMail Standard user with a current service agreement I thought that this would be an inexpensive way to upgrade to JunkMail Pro and add on the Declude EVA product (though I do not have a real need for the Hijack product having only 30 users who all Authenticate and no email relay). The above email seems to suggest that I was upgrading to JunkMail Pro and EVA Pro for the "special price". I may have acted precipitously and am following this thread closely. I am also certain that if I did make a mistake in my assumptions that Declude will set me straight and make it right. Michael Hoyt Communication Arts 110 Constitution Drive Menlo Park, CA 94025 (650) 326-6040 fax:(650) 326-1648 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.commarts.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRIES and COUNTRYCHAIN and Filters
In our GLOBAL.CFG we make use of %COUNTRYCHAIN% to be placed in our headers. We have several filters that use COUNTRIES Are these 2 different? Example of one failed email: >From the Declude Log: 02/10/2006 11:26:37 QDADA01EA87F1 Triggered COUNTRIES STARTSWITH filter MN-HOTMAILSCAM on US [weight->0; US UK ]. >From the HEADER using %COUNTRYCHAIN%: X-MN: Country Chain: UNITED KINGDOM->UNITED STATES->destination COUNTRIES is showing that it started in US but the COUNTRYCHAIN is showing a starting in UK. This is causing our filter not to work. Are we doing this wrong? And it's our understaning that COUNTRYCHAIN can NOT be used in a filter. -Erik --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Same here too. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:27 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude > > Same here... > > > > - Original Message - > From: "John Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:17 PM > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude > > > > Sorry, Barry, not doubting you sent it, but didn't get the message here. > > > > John C > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude > > > > In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email > > sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at > > Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: > > > > * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. > > * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service > Agreements. > > * No customer is required to move to 4.0 > > > > Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 > and > > 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to > the > > 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements. > > > > I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since > the > > email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can > > contact > > me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. > > > > Barry > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, > > just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe > > Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
on 2/10/06 2:36 PM, mail-lists wrote: > Got it on Tuesday... Same here. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] 3.0.5.26 release notes desired
Are there any release notes for 3.0.5.26? I saw it and can't find any mention of the changes anywhere.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter
Title: Message Where do I put these lines in my config files ? Karl Drugge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:45 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter You the Man! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:39 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter Here you go TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS BYPASS # Did it Fail CMDSPACE TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS CMDSPACE # It failed CMDSPACE now check Sniffer TESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS SNIFFER Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions -- PLEASE NOTE : Florida has a very broad public records law. Most written communications to or from City officials regarding City business are public records available to the public and media upon request. Your E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. PLEASE NOTE : Florida has a very broad public records law. Most written communications to or from City officials regarding City business are public records available to the public and media upon request. Your E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter
Title: Message I like to run combos with Sniffer. It's very effective to combine two high percentage spam tests. I have 10 combo filters that include Sniffer: Sniffer and my internal IP blacklist Sniffer and SBL Sniffer and CBL Sniffer and MailPolice Block Sniffer and Spamcop Sniffer and my DUL filter Sniffer and my Proxy filter Sniffer and my automated IP blacklist Sniffer and CMDSPACE Sniffer and ASSP Greylist scores of 90%+ - Original Message - From: Robert Grosshandler To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter Would you be so kind as to post this filter? Thanks ahead of time Rob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:33 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter FYI All, I did my CMDSPACE and SNIFFER (all categories have not broken it up yet) combo filter an let it run all day yesterday. That filter triggered on 37.6% of my mail. I ran it yesterday with weight 0 and monitored, there were no false positives at all. Turning it on for real today. Looks like another good test that I am finally adding to my mix. Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Got it on Tuesday... Cavell McDermott Network Administrator Cottonwood Financial 972.753.0822 Office 214.403.4918 Cell http://www.thecashstore.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:27 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude Same here... - Original Message - From: "John Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude > Sorry, Barry, not doubting you sent it, but didn't get the message here. > > John C > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude > > In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email > sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at > Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: > > * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. > * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements. > * No customer is required to move to 4.0 > > Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and > 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the > 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements. > > I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the > email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can > contact > me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. > > Barry > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, > just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe > Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient named above. If the receiver of this transmission is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error, and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your system. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Same here... - Original Message - From: "John Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude Sorry, Barry, not doubting you sent it, but didn't get the message here. John C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements. * No customer is required to move to 4.0 Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements. I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. Barry --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Sorry, Barry, not doubting you sent it, but didn't get the message here. John C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements. * No customer is required to move to 4.0 Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements. I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. Barry --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
Barry, I didn't get the E-mail that you mentioned. I'm also wondering about what the terms are in 4.0 for new agreements. The terminology changes from "Service Agreements" to "Subscription". Those things can have different meanings in this industry. A "Subscription" suggests expiration of the product, at least to me. If that is not the case, you might want to clarify that on your site. Thanks, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements. * No customer is required to move to 4.0 Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements. I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. Barry --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter
Title: Message You the Man! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:39 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter Here you go TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS BYPASS # Did it Fail CMDSPACE TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS CMDSPACE # It failed CMDSPACE now check Sniffer TESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS SNIFFER Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
[Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions: * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing. * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements. * No customer is required to move to 4.0 Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements. I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933. Barry --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
Should have said Call Declude sales and ask this list is not the authorative place to get answers on licensing. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:21 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > Call Declude sales and ask this list is not the authorative place to get > answers. > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:00 AM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > Okay, let me re-ask... can existing customers *upgrade* to version 3.x? > > > > ~Ché > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:52 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > In my conversation with Barry he said all new licenses will be 4.x > > > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:31 AM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > > > > Okay, that begs the question... can we buy the 3.x product alone? > > > (i.e. ICS vs. just Imail server?) I certainly hope so! > > > > > > ~Ché > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:24 PM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > > > > It is not possible to purchase any of the 4.x components > alone. They are > > > sold as one package. New sales will be the version 4 suite. If > > > you currently > > > have the 3.x product you can stay with seperate components. > > > > > > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > > > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 7:54 AM > > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would > > be for just > > > > Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to > > purchase it alone. > > > > Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for > > > > bundling/pricing > > > > software. > > > > > > > > ~Ché > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher > > > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM > > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > > > > > > > So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what > > > > is up with > > > > Declude 4. > > > > I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > > > > > > > > Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, > > Junkmail Pro and > > > > Hijaak). > > > > Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. > > > Although long term > > > > how long will they support two different code sets? > > > > I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > > > > > > > > Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail > is now only > > > > available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. > > > > The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. > > That's a bump. > > > > > > > > (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey > > > > especially > > > > compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so > > > > flexible that > > > > you can do many different things... > > > > I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to > positively > > > > affected by these changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Scott Fisher > > > > Director of IT > > > > Farm Progress Companies > > > > 191 S Gary Ave > > > > Carol Stream, IL 60188 > > > > 630-462-2323 > > > > > > > > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole > > > use of the > > > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > > > > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > > distribution is > > > > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > > > > the sender > > > > by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > Although Farm > > > > Progress Companies has
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
Call Declude sales and ask this list is not the authorative place to get answers. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:00 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > Okay, let me re-ask... can existing customers *upgrade* to version 3.x? > > ~Ché > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:52 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > In my conversation with Barry he said all new licenses will be 4.x > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:31 AM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > Okay, that begs the question... can we buy the 3.x product alone? > > (i.e. ICS vs. just Imail server?) I certainly hope so! > > > > ~Ché > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:24 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > It is not possible to purchase any of the 4.x components alone. They are > > sold as one package. New sales will be the version 4 suite. If > > you currently > > have the 3.x product you can stay with seperate components. > > > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 7:54 AM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > > > > I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would > be for just > > > Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to > purchase it alone. > > > Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for > > > bundling/pricing > > > software. > > > > > > ~Ché > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher > > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > > > > So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what > > > is up with > > > Declude 4. > > > I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > > > > > > Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, > Junkmail Pro and > > > Hijaak). > > > Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. > > Although long term > > > how long will they support two different code sets? > > > I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > > > > > > Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only > > > available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. > > > The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. > That's a bump. > > > > > > (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey > > > especially > > > compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. > > > > > > > > > Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so > > > flexible that > > > you can do many different things... > > > I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively > > > affected by these changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Scott Fisher > > > Director of IT > > > Farm Progress Companies > > > 191 S Gary Ave > > > Carol Stream, IL 60188 > > > 630-462-2323 > > > > > > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole > > use of the > > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > > > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is > > > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > > > the sender > > > by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > Although Farm > > > Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no > > > viruses are > > > present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility > > > for any loss > > > or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. > > > > > > --- > > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.c
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4 changes ... worried...
X-Note: X-Note: This email was scanned for spam. [Details at http://spamstats.madriveraccess.com] X-Note: This email has been virus scanned by F-Prot,McAfee AV, and ClamAV. X-Note: Please send abuse reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Country-Chain: X-Hello: X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Note: Sent from: [Revdns: mail.madriveraccess.com] [RemoteHostDomain: declude.com] [IP: 12.152.254.4] [SenderHost: madriveraccess.com] X-Note: Spam [v:2.0.6.16] tests: Whitelisted X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is 0. X-Note: Scan time: 13:22:36 on 10 Feb 2006 X-Note: Queue name: DD9EB0B8003364D2A.SMD X-Note: John T (Lists) wrote: I have a feeling that the $1450 for a new license and not for a renewal SA. My question is what the new pricing gives for a product - Is it for an annual subscription meaning the software will *expire* [cease to function] annually or for a software contract meaning the product will continue to function however upgrades etal will not be available pending expiration of the agreement. My presumption is present owners will have some sort of 'grandfather' pricing schedule. Barry is a good man, not out to take advantage, so he will respond in good time to all of this. He is also a smart man and I strongly doubt he will go the 'collaboration suite' aka Imail. He must understand that 1,000's $300 customers are better than a few $1500 customers and no one would want expiring software - at least in my opinion. -Nick. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4 changes ... worried...
John T (Lists) wrote: I think we need to stop jumping to conclusions and wait for an official response from Declude (which should have already happened.) What? No gossip and no drama? I might as well just get a real job then :) H. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
Okay, let me re-ask... can existing customers *upgrade* to version 3.x? ~Ché -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:52 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... In my conversation with Barry he said all new licenses will be 4.x Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:31 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > Okay, that begs the question... can we buy the 3.x product alone? > (i.e. ICS vs. just Imail server?) I certainly hope so! > > ~Ché > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:24 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > It is not possible to purchase any of the 4.x components alone. They are > sold as one package. New sales will be the version 4 suite. If > you currently > have the 3.x product you can stay with seperate components. > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 7:54 AM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would be for just > > Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to purchase it alone. > > Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for > > bundling/pricing > > software. > > > > ~Ché > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what > > is up with > > Declude 4. > > I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > > > > Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and > > Hijaak). > > Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. > Although long term > > how long will they support two different code sets? > > I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > > > > Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only > > available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. > > The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. > > > > (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey > > especially > > compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. > > > > > > Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so > > flexible that > > you can do many different things... > > I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively > > affected by these changes. > > > > > > > > - > > Scott Fisher > > Director of IT > > Farm Progress Companies > > 191 S Gary Ave > > Carol Stream, IL 60188 > > 630-462-2323 > > > > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole > use of the > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > > the sender > > by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > Although Farm > > Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no > > viruses are > > present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility > > for any loss > > or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com]
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
In my conversation with Barry he said all new licenses will be 4.x Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:31 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > Okay, that begs the question... can we buy the 3.x product alone? > (i.e. ICS vs. just Imail server?) I certainly hope so! > > ~Ché > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:24 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > It is not possible to purchase any of the 4.x components alone. They are > sold as one package. New sales will be the version 4 suite. If > you currently > have the 3.x product you can stay with seperate components. > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 7:54 AM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would be for just > > Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to purchase it alone. > > Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for > > bundling/pricing > > software. > > > > ~Ché > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > > So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what > > is up with > > Declude 4. > > I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > > > > Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and > > Hijaak). > > Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. > Although long term > > how long will they support two different code sets? > > I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > > > > Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only > > available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. > > The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. > > > > (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey > > especially > > compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. > > > > > > Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so > > flexible that > > you can do many different things... > > I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively > > affected by these changes. > > > > > > > > - > > Scott Fisher > > Director of IT > > Farm Progress Companies > > 191 S Gary Ave > > Carol Stream, IL 60188 > > 630-462-2323 > > > > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole > use of the > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > > the sender > > by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > Although Farm > > Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no > > viruses are > > present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility > > for any loss > > or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
Let's give them time to respond. I'm sure they understand the need to come back with reasonable pricing on SAs and upgrades. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Chris Anton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... Declude can't be serious. This pricing is ridiculous. We turned to Declude because we needed an affordable anti-spam and virus solution. Declude is not IPSwitch and should not strive to be IPSwitch. IPSwitch lost many customers over its price restructuring and Declude will see the same thing if this issue is not addressed. -Chris Anton -- Original Message -- From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:48:41 -0500 >Yep. at that price it's time to move to something else or build our own system. > >Declude, come back with something reasonable or you'll lose customers like IMail did. > >Darin. > > >- Original Message - >From: Scott Fisher >To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com >Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > >So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what is up with Declude 4. >I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > >Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and Hijaak). >Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. Although long term how long will they support two different code sets? >I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > >Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. >The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. > >(Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey especially compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. > > >Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so flexible that you can do many different things... >I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively affected by these changes. > > > >- >Scott Fisher >Director of IT >Farm Progress Companies >191 S Gary Ave >Carol Stream, IL 60188 >630-462-2323 > >This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. > > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter
Title: Message Here you go TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS BYPASS # Did it Fail CMDSPACE TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS CMDSPACE # It failed CMDSPACE now check Sniffer TESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS SNIFFER Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:30 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter Would you be so kind as to post this filter? Thanks ahead of time Rob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:33 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter FYI All, I did my CMDSPACE and SNIFFER (all categories have not broken it up yet) combo filter an let it run all day yesterday. That filter triggered on 37.6% of my mail. I ran it yesterday with weight 0 and monitored, there were no false positives at all. Turning it on for real today. Looks like another good test that I am finally adding to my mix. Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter
Title: Message Would you be so kind as to post this filter? Thanks ahead of time Rob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:33 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Combo Filter FYI All, I did my CMDSPACE and SNIFFER (all categories have not broken it up yet) combo filter an let it run all day yesterday. That filter triggered on 37.6% of my mail. I ran it yesterday with weight 0 and monitored, there were no false positives at all. Turning it on for real today. Looks like another good test that I am finally adding to my mix. Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4 changes ... worried...
I think we need to stop jumping to conclusions and wait for an official response from Declude (which should have already happened.) I have a feeling that the $1450 for a new license and not for a renewal SA. If that is the case, some one from Declude needs to clarify this on the web site stating that it is a new purchase, not an annual subscription. I say this as I can log on to my account and purchase an SA at the $300 something price. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
Okay, that begs the question... can we buy the 3.x product alone? (i.e. ICS vs. just Imail server?) I certainly hope so! ~Ché -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:24 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... It is not possible to purchase any of the 4.x components alone. They are sold as one package. New sales will be the version 4 suite. If you currently have the 3.x product you can stay with seperate components. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 7:54 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would be for just > Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to purchase it alone. > Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for > bundling/pricing > software. > > ~Ché > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what > is up with > Declude 4. > I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > > Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and > Hijaak). > Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. Although long term > how long will they support two different code sets? > I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > > Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only > available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. > The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. > > (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey > especially > compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. > > > Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so > flexible that > you can do many different things... > I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively > affected by these changes. > > > > - > Scott Fisher > Director of IT > Farm Progress Companies > 191 S Gary Ave > Carol Stream, IL 60188 > 630-462-2323 > > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > the sender > by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > Although Farm > Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no > viruses are > present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility > for any loss > or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
It is not possible to purchase any of the 4.x components alone. They are sold as one package. New sales will be the version 4 suite. If you currently have the 3.x product you can stay with seperate components. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Che Vilnonis > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 7:54 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would be for just > Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to purchase it alone. > Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for > bundling/pricing > software. > > ~Ché > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what > is up with > Declude 4. > I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > > Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and > Hijaak). > Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. Although long term > how long will they support two different code sets? > I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > > Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only > available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. > The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. > > (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey > especially > compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. > > > Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so > flexible that > you can do many different things... > I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively > affected by these changes. > > > > - > Scott Fisher > Director of IT > Farm Progress Companies > 191 S Gary Ave > Carol Stream, IL 60188 > 630-462-2323 > > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > the sender > by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > Although Farm > Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no > viruses are > present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility > for any loss > or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
I had similar complaints when Sniffer increased their price 50% overnight. Sniffer's attitude was pretty much like it or lump it. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Anton > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:53 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > Declude can't be serious. This pricing is ridiculous. We > turned to Declude because we needed an affordable anti-spam > and virus solution. Declude is not IPSwitch and should not > strive to be IPSwitch. IPSwitch lost many customers over its > price restructuring and Declude will see the same thing if > this issue is not addressed. > -Chris Anton > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:48:41 -0500 > > >Yep. at that price it's time to move to something else or > build our own system. > > > >Declude, come back with something reasonable or you'll lose > customers like IMail did. > > > >Darin. > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: Scott Fisher > >To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > >Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM > >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > > > >So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see > what is up with Declude 4. > >I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > > > >Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, > Junkmail Pro and Hijaak). > >Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. > Although long term how long will they support two different code sets? > >I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > > > >Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail > is now only available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. > >The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. > That's a bump. > > > >(Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty > pricey especially compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 > domain price of $199. > > > > > >Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's > so flexible that you can do many different things... > >I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to > positively affected by these changes. > > > > > > > >- > >Scott Fisher > >Director of IT > >Farm Progress Companies > >191 S Gary Ave > >Carol Stream, IL 60188 > >630-462-2323 > > > >This email message, including any attachments, is for the > sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you > are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by > reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable > precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, > the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or > damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. > > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
Has anyone checked the service agreement page?? https://www.declude.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=22 "Following the initial 12 month service and support period included in your initial purchase of your Declude product, a Service Agreement extends the support for a further year." Michael Jaworski Puget Sound Network, Inc. (206) 217-0400 (800) 599-9485 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
Declude can't be serious. This pricing is ridiculous. We turned to Declude because we needed an affordable anti-spam and virus solution. Declude is not IPSwitch and should not strive to be IPSwitch. IPSwitch lost many customers over its price restructuring and Declude will see the same thing if this issue is not addressed. -Chris Anton -- Original Message -- From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:48:41 -0500 >Yep. at that price it's time to move to something else or build our own >system. > >Declude, come back with something reasonable or you'll lose customers like >IMail did. > >Darin. > > >- Original Message - >From: Scott Fisher >To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com >Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > >So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what is up with >Declude 4. >I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > >Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and >Hijaak). >Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. Although long term how >long will they support two different code sets? >I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > >Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only >available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. >The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. > >(Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey especially >compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. > > >Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so flexible that >you can do many different things... >I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively affected >by these changes. > > > >- >Scott Fisher >Director of IT >Farm Progress Companies >191 S Gary Ave >Carol Stream, IL 60188 >630-462-2323 > >This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the >intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. >Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you >are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and >destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies >has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this >email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising >from the use of this email or attachments. > > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
We won't renew as well if that is the case. Time already spent with the Declude software in adjusting filters for SPAM and it's costs and the cost of email software renewal AND other 3rd part plug-ins for SPAM control; it does not add up for a profit with us as a hosting provider. If you truly add up the costs of maintenance with Imail, Declude, 3rd party plugins (sniffer, inv-rbl, etc)... AND the time spent managing all of it; we are back to where we started and it's better to just let the SPAM come in. I agree with you. The reasons we chose Declude in the beginning was the lower maintenance cost to counter weight the "big boys" costs. And Declude is far from being a "big boy". As with you, the lack of the product's advancement has irritated us as well. There is still NO stable product and yet they promote it. Guess it's time to go back to open source and/or develop our own spam program; based on that open source. With the money we've already spent on all this; we could have it developed. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:31 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... I can tell you at $1450 a year for my Declude for Imail, isn't going to fly very well here. Ironically, one of the reasons I chose Declude in the beginning was the lower maintenance cost. The upfront cost was higher than the alternatives, but the ongoing price was very affordable. I belive the product was the best product for Imail integration at the time I purchaed it. I also have to say that the lack of the product's advancement has irritated me. Yes there was the change to a service, and yes SmarterMail support was implemented. But the base product has not not improved in virus/vulnerability detection or spam detection in a year. I think that change was the addition of the dynhelo internal test. And I don't use that test because run a third party test that is more effective. Looking at the release logs, the last substantial virus/vulnerability detection or spam additions were in September 2004 with version 1.80. If the price is going up that much, I really expect the program to be getting better. - Original Message - From: "Che Vilnonis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... >I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would be for just >Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to purchase it >alone. Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for >bundling/pricing software. > > ~Ché > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... > > > So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what is > up > with > Declude 4. > I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. > > Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro > and Hijaak). Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. > Although long term how long will they support two different code sets? > I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. > > Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only > available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. The last time I paid > maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. > > (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey > especially > compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. > > > Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so > flexible > that > you can do many different things... > I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively > affected by these changes. > > > > - > Scott Fisher > Director of IT > Farm Progress Companies > 191 S Gary Ave > Carol Stream, IL 60188 > 630-462-2323 > > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution > is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original > message. Although Farm > Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses > are > present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any > loss > or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscrib
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
Yep. at that price it's time to move to something else or build our own system. Declude, come back with something reasonable or you'll lose customers like IMail did. Darin. - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what is up with Declude 4. I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and Hijaak). Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. Although long term how long will they support two different code sets? I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey especially compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so flexible that you can do many different things... I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively affected by these changes. -Scott FisherDirector of ITFarm Progress Companies191 S Gary AveCarol Stream, IL 60188630-462-2323 This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
At that price we will be looking for alternatives. Considering the cost of declude + sniffer puts us close to $2k. At that price we have many other options and will explore them for sure. H. Scott Fisher wrote: I can tell you at $1450 a year for my Declude for Imail, isn't going to fly very well here. Ironically, one of the reasons I chose Declude in the beginning was the lower maintenance cost. The upfront cost was higher than the alternatives, but the ongoing price was very affordable. I belive the product was the best product for Imail integration at the time I purchaed it. I also have to say that the lack of the product's advancement has irritated me. Yes there was the change to a service, and yes SmarterMail support was implemented. But the base product has not not improved in virus/vulnerability detection or spam detection in a year. I think that change was the addition of the dynhelo internal test. And I don't use that test because run a third party test that is more effective. Looking at the release logs, the last substantial virus/vulnerability detection or spam additions were in September 2004 with version 1.80. If the price is going up that much, I really expect the program to be getting better. - Original Message - From: "Che Vilnonis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would be for just Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to purchase it alone. Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for bundling/pricing software. ~Ché -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what is up with Declude 4. I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and Hijaak). Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. Although long term how long will they support two different code sets? I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey especially compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so flexible that you can do many different things... I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively affected by these changes. - Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies 191 S Gary Ave Carol Stream, IL 60188 630-462-2323 This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Stock spammers a shift?
I'm starting to see the stock spammers coming in with base64 encoding and jpeg files. That'll be intesting to try to block. -Scott FisherDirector of ITFarm Progress Companies191 S Gary AveCarol Stream, IL 60188630-462-2323 This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
I can tell you at $1450 a year for my Declude for Imail, isn't going to fly very well here. Ironically, one of the reasons I chose Declude in the beginning was the lower maintenance cost. The upfront cost was higher than the alternatives, but the ongoing price was very affordable. I belive the product was the best product for Imail integration at the time I purchaed it. I also have to say that the lack of the product's advancement has irritated me. Yes there was the change to a service, and yes SmarterMail support was implemented. But the base product has not not improved in virus/vulnerability detection or spam detection in a year. I think that change was the addition of the dynhelo internal test. And I don't use that test because run a third party test that is more effective. Looking at the release logs, the last substantial virus/vulnerability detection or spam additions were in September 2004 with version 1.80. If the price is going up that much, I really expect the program to be getting better. - Original Message - From: "Che Vilnonis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would be for just Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to purchase it alone. Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for bundling/pricing software. ~Ché -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what is up with Declude 4. I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and Hijaak). Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. Although long term how long will they support two different code sets? I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey especially compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so flexible that you can do many different things... I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively affected by these changes. - Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies 191 S Gary Ave Carol Stream, IL 60188 630-462-2323 This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
I agree. I just emailed to see what the upgrade price would be for just Junkmail... and I'm not sure that is even possible to purchase it alone. Sounds like Declude has been following Ipswitch's model for bundling/pricing software. ~Ché -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried... So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what is up with Declude 4. I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and Hijaak). Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. Although long term how long will they support two different code sets? I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey especially compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so flexible that you can do many different things... I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively affected by these changes. - Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies 191 S Gary Ave Carol Stream, IL 60188 630-462-2323 This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see what is up with Declude 4. I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail. Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro, Junkmail Pro and Hijaak). Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported. Although long term how long will they support two different code sets? I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good. Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail is now only available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch. The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265. That's a bump. (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty pricey especially compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's so flexible that you can do many different things... I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to positively affected by these changes. -Scott FisherDirector of ITFarm Progress Companies191 S Gary AveCarol Stream, IL 60188630-462-2323 This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments.
