Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [sniffer] OT - exchange 5.5 help

2005-01-07 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Title: Re: [sniffer] OT - exchange 5.5 help






Configure the IMS (internet mail service/connector in echange manager)

You have to disable the microsoft smtp server (iis5 smtp) exchange 55 has its own smtp




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Subject: [sniffer] OT - exchange 5.5 help

I know this is off topic, but I need a little Exchange 5.5 help. Recently
upgraded a client from NT4 with Exchange to Windows 2000 Server SP4 with
Exchange 5.5. I am having one problem though. The local server name is
server.example.com, which is fine and dandy for the internal network. I
need to add a domain suffix for the server for the outside world for sending
email. I need the domain suffix to be something like example1.com, where
example1.com is a real registered domain. Any help is appreciated and you
can email me off list.

Daniel

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT IMail Backup/Restore

2004-06-11 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
When you export the imail registry hive
Look at the resulting file...
If there are hard references to C:
Then run a search/replace all to update to D

If you use SQL for user databases then you'll have to write a small sql
script to update the mailbox path's for every mailbox. The physcal path
is stored in each row.

Other than that, its exactly what I've done many times.

 

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT IMail Backup/Restore

Hi,

I think this is going to work

I need to backup IMail from the C Drive, reformat the server, create D
drive and then put IMail back on D Drive.

I figure the way to do this is

Old Server

Stop all IMail services
Backup IMail and all directories

Make new server
Install IMail on new server D Drive
Patch it to same level
Restore the IMail directories to D Drive Check all drive references
Start Services


This should move all the mail and users etc etc

Obviously fix all the Declude filter paths etc.

Will this work?

Thanx


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT IMail Backup/Restore

2004-06-11 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
That's all that you need
 

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Tom,


Is there more in the registry than under

HKLM\Software\Ipswitch\.


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT IMail Backup/Restore
 
 When you export the imail registry hive Look at the resulting file...
 If there are hard references to C:
 Then run a search/replace all to update to D
 
 If you use SQL for user databases then you'll have to write a small
sql
 script to update the mailbox path's for every mailbox. The physcal
path
 is stored in each row.
 
 Other than that, its exactly what I've done many times.
 
 
 
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Jovanovic
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT IMail Backup/Restore
 
 Hi,
 
 I think this is going to work
 
 I need to backup IMail from the C Drive, reformat the server, create D

 drive and then put IMail back on D Drive.
 
 I figure the way to do this is
 
 Old Server
 
 Stop all IMail services
 Backup IMail and all directories
 
 Make new server
 Install IMail on new server D Drive
 Patch it to same level
 Restore the IMail directories to D Drive Check all drive references 
 Start Services
 
 
 This should move all the mail and users etc etc
 
 Obviously fix all the Declude filter paths etc.
 
 Will this work?
 
 Thanx
 
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
  The LAN Shoppe
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MS SMTP store and forward

2004-05-05 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Win 2000:

Right click SMTP service -
Properties -
Access -
Relay -
 [x] Only the list below:
  ( enter your allowed-to-relay IP ranges )
 OK -
 OK -
SMTP Service - Domains
 Right click Domains
 New.. - Domain - (repeat for each...)
  Domain Type = remote -
  name=commarts.com - 
  
  right click the new domain, properties -
  [x] allow incoming mail to be relayed to this domain
  route domain:
   [x] forward all mail to smart host = imail.server
  ok -

Similar process for Win2003, I think the relay might be under a
different tab though.


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] MS SMTP store and forward

I would like to set up an SMTP mail store and forward server using
Microsoft's SMTP server that can accept email for my domains in the
event that my primary iMail server is temporarily down.  I would also
like to be able to send outbound email through this secondary server
because we occasionally do an emailing to our customers and when this
emailing occurs my iMail outbound queue fills and my iMail users can
experience a performance hit using IMAP.

I have MX records for the three domains (commarts.com,
designinteract.com, and creativehotlist.com) that point to
mail.commarts.com as the primary mail server and direct.commarts.com as
secondary mail server (higher preference
number) and have RDNS records for these two mail servers.

The setup seems simple enough:  Run MS SMTP on the IP address for my
secondary email MX record and this should take care of the store and
forward part (if my primary email server is unreachable the secondary
will take the mail and should attempt delivery to the primary mail
server for the number and timing of attempts configured in SMTP
properties).

I want to be able to send outbound mail through this secondary email
server without running an open relay.  So in short:
1) I want to be able to receive email addressed to my domains through my
secondary server that is then passed on to my iMail primary server.
2) I want to specify an internal IP address that is allowed to send
through the secondary mail server's SMTP service.
3) I want to make sure that no email not originating from the IP address
specified in 2 above is relayed to any domains that are not one of my
three domains.

iMail server always accepts email with an internal destination-is this
also true of MS SMTP? If no, how does one set up MS SMTP to accept mail
to internal domains and deny relaying of mail from external to external
domains.

Thank you in advance,

Michael Hoyt
Communication Arts
110 Constitution Drive
Menlo Park, CA  94025
(650) 326-6040  fax:(650) 326-1648

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF support to be added to next beta

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Any chance we can seperate fail  unknown into two different tests?
via spf we have ?all or -all which are supposed to be treated differently
from what I understand.

I would rather seriously penalize any domain that is configured with a -all
and the sending IP is fails
and would NOT want to penazlize unconfigured or ?all transitional domains.

Ideally I would like something like this:

SPFPASS spf pass x -5 0
SPFUNKN spf unknown  x 4  0
SPFFAIL spf fail x 8  0


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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF support to be added to next beta


We will be adding support for SPF (Sender Permitted From, at 
http://spf.pobox.com ) to the next beta of Declude JunkMail.  This is a 
system that lets owners of domains publish information on what 
mailservers people can use to send mail from the domain.  We expect 
that this can be very useful in blocking spam (similar to the 
SPAMDOMAINS test), as well as helping ensure that legitimate mail gets
through.

For those that are interested, we now have an interim release with SPF
support in it.  It can be downloaded from http://www.declude.com/interim (a
new URL that we are going to be using for interim releases, that explains a
bit more about them).  To use the new SPF test, you can add lines such as:

SPFPASS spf passx   -5  0
SPFFAIL spf failx   8   0

to your global.cfg file.  SPF returns PASS for E-mail that passes SPF
(that comes from an IP that is acceptable to the owner of the domani that it
claims to be coming from), FAIL for E-mail that fails SPF (that does not
come from an acceptable IP for the domain), or UNKNOWN (for E-mail from
domains that do not use SPF yet, or for some other reason should return
UNKNOWN).

This will help reduce false positives (for domains that have SPF support),
and help capture more spam (as spam comes in from domains that have SPF
support, but the spammer isn't using an acceptable IP).

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF support to be added to next beta

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Gotcha, all 3 are already setup :)

I don't really want to penalize for unknown, was just making an example.
( I just setup spf on my postfix box yesterday as well to help get past some
restrictions for pass)

Sounds like you are setting the the spf-guess (which defaults to mx/24 a/24
right?)
 

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF support to be added to next beta


Any chance we can seperate fail  unknown into two different tests?
via spf we have ?all or -all which are supposed to be treated 
differently from what I understand.

They are treated differently.  An SPF lookup can result in PASS, FAIL, or
UNKNOWN.  So:

Ideally I would like something like this:

SPFPASS spf pass x -5 0
SPFUNKN spf unknown  x 4  0
SPFFAIL spf fail x 8  0

This will work fine.

At this time, though, I would not recommend penalizing for the UNKNOWN
response, as most domains do not yet have an SPF record.

However, we plan to soon add a way of letting you force SPF records for
domains that don't have them, as well as having a default SPF record.  This
would allow the UNKNOWN result to be more useful.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Dictionary attacks and Postfix

2003-11-15 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Little OT for this list, but anyone using postfix as a gateway should have
this setup by now!



http://www.smartbusiness.net/imail/

Use the above utility to export your userlist from IMAIL to a test file
every few minutes.

I have attached (Imailexport.zip) an example of what I use to export my
userlist and FTP it up to my postfix box. I have the .cmd file scheduled to
run every 3 minutes to keep it up to date.

On the postfix box I have a script in crontab that runs every minute..
( attached as postfix-import.sh.txt).
On postfix box I created a user 'imail' which the 'imailusers.ftp' file
contains the login info for.

*Note: the postfix script calls /usr/bin/win2unix which probably doesn't
exist. It's a quick script I wrote to remove the cr/lf whatever windows has
that unix doesn't use. There are lots of examples out there on how to do it
also.

Once you have the above in place you end up with
/etc/postfix/to_relay_recipients.map
Which hash's to to_relay_recipients.map.db
And postfix now has an up-to-date list (within 5 minutes) of all the users
and aliases that IMAIL has.

Then edit your /etc/main.cf with
relay_recipient_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/to_relay_recipients.map

And enjoy the saved BW  CPU cycles of not having to deal with all those
annoying bounces.


Then if you want to help against dictionary attacks write a script to watch
/var/log/maillog and once a treshhold is crossed of 'unknown user in relay
recipient table' from a single IP blacklist it. (either via another .map or
an ipfw rule)



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From: Scot Desort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Dictionary attacks and Postfix

Over the last week, as we moved one of our larger email domains over to our
Declude server. I have been doing ad-hoc research of our IMAIL and Declude
logs looking for patterns in email coming in.

When we first started to investigate anti-spam solutions, I was leaning
towards a gateway server sitting in front of Imail, similar to IMGATE. I
built my own Postfix box and basically configured it very similarly to
imgate. Initially, we listed many RBL's in Postfix. But it became clear that
Postfix (without the use of an external scanner like SpamAssassin) was
becoming a problem because a message would be rejected if it failed only ONE
RBL test, since there is no native method to use cumulative scoring with
RBL's without using something like SpamAssassin. As we all know, rejecting
on the basis of a single RBL failure yields a very high FP rate.

As time progressed, we removed many of the RBL's from Postfix. We still have
Postfix sitting in front of Imail, but it's primary purpose is to do some
attachment filtering (.exe, .pif, .scr etc), as well as the equivalent of
Declude's REVDNS, MAILFROM and IPNOTINMX tests.

Now that we have Declude running, the usefulness of the Postfix gateway
seems limited. And in actuality, it might be increasing our total email
volume entering Imail. This is because Postfix acts as a front end
gateway/relay server for a domain. Since Postfix does not have access to the
Imail user database, it accepts ALL incoming email to a domain that it
handles relay for. Now, if I understand spammers (or more specifically,
email address harvesters), they are in the business of selling email
addresses. The cleaner their databases are, the more money they make. So,
one of these harvesters sends a dictionary attack to one of the domains that
our Postfix server relays for. Postfix sees the domain as a relay domain,
and accepts EVERY single incoming email address for that domain. As far as
the harvester is concerned, Postfix has now validated every single email
address in the attack. Now, Postfix does it's thing, and forwards the email
to Imail. Now Imail processes each message and rejects those addressed to
invalid mailboxes. But at this point, it's too late. The harvester has
closed his SMTP connection to Postfix and as far as he is concerned, every
single one of the addresses is valid. Imail simply bounces the bad messages,
which is obviously a waste of time since the bounce address is most likey
invalid also.

While Postfix may be reducing a small percentage of email from reaching
Imail when it fails some of it's own tests, it is my belief that Postfix is
actually increasing the amount of email being sent to Imail by validating
every email address coming into it as part of a dictionary attack. I think
Ipswitch needs to add dictionary attack prevention to Imail. MerakMail does
this, and the control they give you over the process looks pretty good
(http://www.merakmail.com/Knowledgebase/261.htm). I was shocked to find out
that Ipswitch did not include this functionality when version 8 was
released. For us, dictionary attacks represent the highest volume of
incoming email to our servers.

To combat the lack of this functionality, one could do some cumulative
analysis on your Imail logs, identifying the IP 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] maybe its just one of AOL's servers???

2003-10-07 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
http://postmaster.info.aol.com/servers.html

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From: Joshua Levitsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] maybe its just one of AOL's servers???

The reason for the above is that our customers use ptr.aol.com and 
well there's just a bunch of other prefixes before .aol.com and only MX 
is used for our mail servers. (Nobody here has seen actual email from 
aol.com coming from something other than *.mx.aol.com right?)

-Josh

--
Joshua Levitsky, CISSP, MCSE
System Engineer
AOL Time Warner
[5957 F27C 9C71 E9A7 274A  0447 C9B9 75A4 9B41 D4D1]
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[Declude.JunkMail] Auto-unsubscribe

2003-09-16 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Scott:

Curious on how you have your auto-unsubscribe set.
I have been unsubscribed twice now and each time I usually figure out when
the list seems unusually quiet.

This time is probably because of a filter that was a little too aggressive
yesterday that I quickly caught and removed... I rejected two messages from
the list but was still receiving messages for a little while after that
point so didn't think it had triggered an auto-unsub.

Just curious so I can watch out for it in the future.
( do/can you send a notice to a recipient when you auto-un subscribe them? )

Thanks
Tom
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Multi Server Configs

2003-08-21 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Dan,

Declude does not have that kind of power as it is the IMAIL SMTP Daemon
which accepts the mail and places it into the spool.
After it is in the spool declude queue moves it to the overflow for faster
processing if there are more messages in the spool than imail can run
smtp-delivery processes for (MaxQueProc). See http://www.declude.com/dq.htm
for more information on how exactly the overflow works.

If you want to reject messages before the SMTP envelope is over let me
suggest you take a look at 'IMGate' http://imgate.meiway.com/  IMGate is
basically a set of configurations for a free Unix OS(Linux or FreeBSD
www.freebsd.org) with the (free) Postfix MTA (www.postfix.org). Postfix does
have the ability for its SMTP Daemon to reject messages during the first
SMTP session based on header and body rules.  

Many of the people running declude also have one of these servers running in
front of our Imail/Declude server to reject such floods. During the start of
the SoBig flood I modified my body checks to reject any message with a .pif
attachment, and modified my header checks to reject any message containing
subject lines of those that the sobig worm uses. 
Yesterday I rejected over 10,000 messages based on these rules..
Thats 10,000 messages declude never had to process because they were
rejected with a 550 code at the SMTP level.

There may be some other suggestions on this list, but I think this is
something worth at least taking a look at.

-Tom

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From: Dan Patnode [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Multi Server Configs


I'm running twin dual Xeon 2.4s and was nearly wiped out today by all the
extra virus/worm activity.  Its midnight and I'm still clearing out the
overflow, to the tune of 2 dozen Declude processes.

Rather than running them in parallel as we had before (setting them up with
the same MX weight), we are running these in series (every message hits the
first server until it says uncle, then the second server gets some).
Trouble is, the 1st server didn't refuse incoming mail, it just kept piling
up in overflow - to the tune of about 10,000 message in the course of a
single morning.

Is there a way to configure Imail/Declude so as not to use overflow, instead
refusing additional connections so they are passed to secondary servers?

Thanks
Dan


PS, more on CPU load itself later

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[Declude.JunkMail] Spoolviewer.exe - bug?

2003-07-09 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Scott:

Does spoolviewer.exe look at the registry to determine the actual spool
location?

We just moved our spool to a different physical volume to improve
performance...
D:\imail\spool - e:\imail\spool
everything else remained on D except the spool.

Everything is functioning great (doubled our performance too!) except now
spoolviewer.exe reports all 0's

Thanks
Tom
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cox SMTP

2003-07-01 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Cox ( as well as most ISPs) only block specific ports as needed, and allow
everything else. ( vs a corporate organization or ISP servers which block
all, and allow whats needed ). 

To the best of my knowledge cox only blocks
Out: 25
In: 25,80

The cox filters only apply to Residential customers, business customers who
are using their assigned IP addresses are not effected by any filters.

This is no different than earthlink who has long blocked outbound 25 to
anywhere except their own servers. This is a good move I wish all
residential high speed providers would do. Cable Modems/DSL are known for
their high abuse and since this block I have seen the number of viruses/etc
trying to come into my network cut down considerably.



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From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cox SMTP



So, you are saying they are not blocking port 26 outbound, only port 25 in
and out.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cox SMTP

2003-07-01 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
 (1)no SPAM or Anti-Virus checking

How does using a different SMTP server effect your inbound spam filtering?
Cox subscribers are forced to use the cox SMTP so what?
The only way this should effect your declude is that auto-whitelist may not
work.
If you still want to scan on the senders IP, adjust your HOPHIGH
accordingly.

 (2)5Meg email attachment size limit.

Real bummer. customers have to convert those bitmaps to jpg's from now on.

 Now I have two SMTP servers on the same server Imail ver 8.0 and 
 Declude Junkmail and Virus using the standard ports so not to 
 effect all my other emails and domains and the second SMTP using port 
 26 so I can send emails to my server from home over the COX cable modem. 
 This allows me to still have SPAM and virus checking for my cable 
 modem customers and over come the COX imposed 5Meg limit.

I'm confused, how does moving the extra HOP from the COX smtp to a second
SMTP inside your building effect your inbound spam checking? Attachment
limitations can be a PITA.
As an administrator I'm surprised you don't have an inbound VPN connection
to your office anyways which would bypass their filters and allow you to
tunnel to your own SMTP. ( that's what we do ). I understand this wouldn't
work for customers... We infact do something similar running secondary SMTP
services on port 125 (we find its easier to teach stupid people to add a
digit in front of the port number rather than changing one).

If your reasoning is for something like auto-whitelist you will also need to
set that secondary SMTP server to smarthost via IMAIL (sending ALL
outbound mail via IMAIL and not using MX/DNS to deliver).

Also hopefully you are using SMTPAUTH or have allowed individual Ips into
the MS-SMTP service, open relays on odd ports can also be bad. 



-Original Message-
From: William Baumbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Cox SMTP


If you did not know



Cox the High Speed Internet provider of cable modems. Beginning Wednesday,
June 25 2003 has filter access to all 3rd party outgoing (SMTP) mail
servers.



Sincerely,

William J. Baumbach II  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9975 Pennsylvania Ave. Manassas, Va. 20110-2028
Ph: 703-367-7900 ext:1708 Fax: 703-691-0946
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Does Declude Work With IMail Relaying?

2003-07-01 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
There is a way you can get your imail/declude-exchange-relay box to treat
the mail as inbound mail, but there is more administrative overhead (ie
not a good choice for most people). 

Our organization does not make changes to our exchange mailbox's often so
this works great for us, and has the added benefit of letting imail reject
'unknown' users rather than accepting everything and bouncing them.

-Leave IMAIL configured as it was (nexustechgroup.com primary with host
aliases).
-Leave all your POP accounts...
-Setup exchange with 
  @nexustechgroup.com AND @internal.nexustechgroup.com
  (make sure the mailbox's can accept mail to @internal.nexustechgroup.com,
but their primary address is @nexustechgroup.com so outgoing mail reflects
the proper address)

-if you would like the users to be able to create IMAIL rules (to block
stuff before it gets to exchange) then
 create a main.fwd in each POP folder forwarding to
@internal.nexustechgroup.com
 Ex: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  file: \imail\nexustechgroup.com\users\support\main.fwd
  contains: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-if you just want it treated as local then just
 create an imail alias for each username forwarding to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


This results in IMAIL thinking nexustechgroup.com (and all host aliases) are
local.
You can let your users create spam filters by logging into their MAIL
account and using the IMAIL processing rules if they like (to filter on
their own headers) or manage your USERNAME.junkmail or however your
organization prefers.

When mail would be delivered, it will be 'forwarded' to their internal
address (DO NOT EVER give it out) and make it to exchange (translated to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ). All users would be able to receive mail at xxx@(any
host alias).

The administrative headache is keeping your POP/forwards and aliases up to
date every time you make a change in exchange, but it works well for us.


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From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Does Declude Work With IMail Relaying?



Well, the domain names for the mail which we are going to be relaying 
mail over to our Exchange Server are NEXUSTECHGROUP.COM, 
NEXUSTECHLTD.COM and NEXUSTECHNOLOGYGROUP.COM.  Currently, 
NEXUSTECHGROUP.COM is set up in IMail as the primary domain name and 
NEXUSTECHLTD.COM and NEXUSTECHNOLOGYGROUP.COM are host aliases off of 
the site.  We do use per-domain filtering currently for 
NEXUSTECHGROUP.COM, which, since they are host aliases, also includes 
the other 2 domains.  Does that mean we can still manage any spam 
filtering for that domain as we have been, i.e. with the 
\declude\nexustechgroup.com\$default$.junkmail?

Actually, just to make things more confusing, IMail won't perform the 
domain translation for gateway E-mail, so you would need separate config 
files for each domain.

If per-domain configuration allows me to treat relayed domains as if 
they are local domains do I now have to setup 
\declude\nexustechltd.com\$default$.junkmail and 
\declude\nexustechnologygroup.com\$default$.junkamil for the other 2 
domain names, where before I was depending on the NEXUSTECHGROUP.COM to 
do the work for all three of them because 2 were host aliases?

Correct.  However, you could use the REDIRECT command to get around this, 
by having the following lines in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file:

REDIRECT@nexustechltd.com 
C:\IMail\Declude\nexustechgroup.com\$default$.JunkMail
REDIRECT@nexustechnologygroup.com 
C:\IMail\Declude\nexustechgroup.com\$default$.JunkMail

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Processing Declude and Imail

2003-06-18 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Weight20 Subject SPAM-2[%weight%]
#Weight20a MAILBOX SPAM
Weight30 Subject SPAM-3[%weight%]
#Weight30a MAILBOX SPAM

Do not use the mailbox action, rather copy a rules.ima into each users
folder that does not already have one. The contents of the 'default'
rules.ima should be like

S~SPAM:SPAM

Declude does its magic well before rules.ima comes into play.
If you were to use Domain level rules.ima, they execute before user level
rules.ima, and your users would not be able to 'whitelist' via rules.ima

The rule which moves the spam to the spam.mbx needs to be the very last line
in each usres rules.ima

What WE do is make a header entry rather than inserting into the subject.
Then we don't get the compaints, why did you still mark it as spam when I
told you not to since their rules.ima is what whitelisted the email.




-Original Message-
From: Earl Baumgardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Processing Declude and Imail


That is what I thought as well.
But.
When you use the config I have below the rules.ima
seemed to get ignored.
I would like to the email tagged as Spam to automatically
go to the SPAM folder. But I would also like my users to be able 
to use the IMAIL rules to further filter the email, such
as whitelisting or deleting spam.

Suggestions anyone?

thanks
Earl


-- Original Message --
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:07:48 -0700

I believe rules.ima gets run last.

 

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA

Engineer/Consultant

eServices For You

www.eservicesforyou.com

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Earl
Baumgardner
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 5:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Processing Declude and Imail

 

When using the MAILBOX feature on Declude, will Imail

still apply rules.ima to that incoming email?

Ex

We have 2 actions on an email. Add SPAM to the subject line

and send to SPAM folder. Based on weight we also include

a Spam Level such as:

SPAM-1 or SPAM-2 that gets added with the subject line.

 

Weight20 Subject SPAM-2[%weight%]

Weight20a MAILBOX SPAM

Weight30 Subject SPAM-3[%weight%]

Weight30a MAILBOX SPAM

 

this will send to a users folder called SPAM.

Now say that user wants to apply his own rules to that email.

Such as SPAM-1 goes to Inbox or SPAM-3 gets deleted or

just basic whitelisting. Can this be done or does the

Send To Folder override the Rules.Ima for that user.

 

thanks!

 

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WebShoppe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
256.329.2574 
www.webshopppe.net 

 



 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Where I'm At Now and Where Should I Be Going?

2003-02-28 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
In our experience as an ISP, this was our INITIAL reaction (based on my
personal mailbox),
However SPAMCOP turned into about 50% accuracy system wide, and we had to
move to at least 2 RBL tests failed to hold, or SNIFFER.

It would be a good idea to run the sniffer
(http://www.sortmonster.com/sniffer/) trial as well. What declude is
currently passing through sniffer should catch most of.

-Tom

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From: Darrell L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Where I'm At Now and Where Should I Be
Going?


In my experience SPAMCOP has been very good at weeding out SPAM and we
hold/block using this test alone.  We do occasionally get a false positive
or two, but no more or less than any of RBL's that list known open relays.

Darrell

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 11:36 AM
To: Declude JunkMail
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Where I'm At Now and Where Should I Be Going?

Hello, All,

I am pushing hard to learn as much about Declude.JunkMail as my time allows
during the trial period.  I think I installed on February 11th so I'm about
17 days into the trial.

I was hoping to get some feedback from the list as far as things I might
have looked over and might want to consider looking into next.  Just to
bring things up to speed...

I am currently testing Declude.JunkMail Beta v1.67.  I have isolated 2
in-house hosts (out of the 90 we have on our IMail server) for testing
purposes.  For each host I did some pre-analysis to find out what an ideal
hold weight would be for each.  For the first host, with the domain name
NEXUSTECHGROUP.COM, I came up with WEIGHT13 as my hold weight.  For the
second host, with the domain name PAGEROVER.COM, I came up with WEIGHT12 as
my hold weight.  NEXUSTECHGROUP.COM probably gets about 90% legitimate
e-mail and PAGEROVER.COM probably gets about 95% (or higher) spam e-mail.

Once I set up the hold weight most spam immediately started being caught
by Declude.  Those who receive e-mail at those domains were very impressed.
But there are still the occasional spam e-mail which make it under the
threshold of the hold weight.  To further fine tune Declude.JunkMail I
have done 2 things, one which was my idea (and I'm comfortable with) and
another which was done to please my boss, which I don't necessarily agree
with:

Fine Tuning #1:

This is the one I am comfortable with...

In addition to the hold weight I also hold e-mail for a test that I
created called SENDERBLOCK.  SENDERBLOCK is defined in GLOBAL.CFG as
SENDERBLOCK fromfile  D:\iMail\declude\senderblock.txt x 0 0.  This is
based upon the test described in the Your own sender blacklists section of
the Declude.JunkMail.  Whenever a spam e-mail slips under my hold weight I
add the sender's domain (provided it's an obvious spamming domain) to this
list.  That test has helped to filter a few more spam e-mails out of my
user's inboxes.

Fine Tuning #2:

This one I'm less comfortable with...

My boss noticed that a number of the spam e-mails that were still slipping
in underneath the hold weight were failing the test SPAMCOP.  He wanted to
know how come I wasn't filtering out all e-mails that failed that test as,
from his estimation, the SPAMCOP test was using a list of known spammers.  I
explained in detail the information I gleamed from the Declude.JunkMail web
site and the SPAMCOP web site about the accuracy of the SPAMCOP test.  I
know that the SPAMCOP test finds mail server which have a high incidence of
spam to legitimate e-mail but that real e-mail can pass through those
servers.

I told him I'd rather continue to filter on spam domains (via
SENDERBLOCK)
and that I was trying to avoid catching any legitimate e-mail altogether.
I'm trying to set the bar low enough so that a) most spam is caught, b) no
legitimate e-mail is caught and then c) filtering further for actual
identified spam e-mails.  He thinks it's too much overhead to add each
domain name whereas I think over time as I add more and more domains to the
list the number of domains I have to add will go down considerably. Needless
to say I gave in and just started holding for the SPAMCOP test because I
really didn't feel like taking the time to turn him over to my spam blocking
philosophy.

So that's basically where I'm at right now and from this I've come up with a
number of questions and/or comments I am looking for feedback on. Mostly I'm
looking for best practices sorts of answers from the community as a
whole...

#1) Are there are any other tests, which I am missing, like the SENDERBLOCK
test which I might want to consider adding to my bag of tricks to continue
to filter out spam e-mail which slide in under my hold weight and also
fall in line with my philosophy, i.e. catching legit e-mail is a bad thing?

#2) Am I correct in my assumption that holding for SPAMCOP is a bad 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Idea for a test...

2003-02-24 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Right, as has been the concnsus when the regexp idea's has been discussed
before.
Declude is clean small and straightforward.
Regexp support adds complexiy which add's to CPU load.

We run a postfix gateway as well (that's where we actually run message
sniffer, to keep the CPU load on IMAIL as low as possible, we do a good
volume).

Simple checking to watch for this specific pattern might be a good idea, but
IMO full blown regexp support is an overkill for what declude is designed
for.

There are people developing external tests to accomplish this, which I
believe is the best win win solution for the broad customer base declude is
targeted at.


-Original Message-
From: Bill Landry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Idea for a test...


I run regexp for header check on my Postfix gateways, but not for body
checks because of the CPU usage it takes to scan message bodies.  I like the
fact the Declude JunkMail is fast and efficient and would be opposed to
adding code that would substantially slow it down.

Just my 2 cents...

Bill
- Original Message -
From: Mike K [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Idea for a test...


 Scott:

 You may just want to build support for unix style regular expressions.

 Complicated, but they can do this and much more.

 Note: Len's IMGate solution can do this also but with half the cpu 
 horsepower that NT/2K require. I use IMGATE as a front end to
IMAIL/Declude
 do exactly this.

 Expression matching does get cpu intensive if you don't limit it to 
 say
the
 first 5K bytes (scanning a 5 meg attachment for ex.) or so and make 
 sure
it
 runs after less resource intensive tests (rbls).

 Mike

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 From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Idea for a test...


 
  As we all know the spammers insert special characters in the middle 
  of subject words to bypass the filters, e.g. P/O/R/N, or all sort 
  of other variations.
  
  Can a test we devised, similar to the COMMENT test that counts the
number
  of special characters or detect similar characters appearing in the
 middle
  of words.
  
  I guess one way to approach this is to first count if there are 
  more
than
  1 or 2 special characters and if yes then determine if they are
followed
  by text.
  
  This could be a weight test.
 
  This does sound like a good idea.  Our spamtraps don't seem to get 
  much spam like that, but a test looking for non-alphanumeric 
  characters that
 are
  surrounded by alphanumeric characters might make some sense (which 
  would catch P/O/R/N).
  -Scott
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] PostfixGate removal ... ?

2003-02-05 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Title: Message



Anyone know how 
the heck to submit a removal for postfixgate? is there even a 
way?

The link on their 
website (www.postfixgate.com) is a js 
popup,
which when I 
pulled the js page it refers to
http://www.liswireless.net/postfixgate/dispute/default.htm

When you go 
there, its a redirect to
http://www.brandxwireless.com/

Which gives no 
links for submitting a removal.

Thanks in advance 
if anyone has any info

-Tom


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] PostfixGate removal ... ?

2003-02-05 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Scott,

I seem to remember this coming up maybe a few months ago?
Hell I have a bad memory.

The first link in postfixgate says you shalt not be listed on any other spam
lists to be removed, and links to www.dnstuff.com

Maybe you guys could throw a note on http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch
making note that its dead to help guys out like me that have no memory, or
people that don't have access to this mailing list to get help from others ?

Just a thought,
Thanks for the replies everyone..

-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] PostfixGate removal ... ? 



Anyone know how the heck to submit a removal for postfixgate? is there
even a way?

This may help:  We're listed in there, but don't care.

It seems that they died about a year ago, not adding/removing any entries 
since then.  However, since people had paid them money, I'm guessing they 
are leaving everything online until all the subscriptions have ended.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Select Email

2003-02-04 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
I do it by using plain old IMAIL Rules...

[rules.ima]
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
H!~abc123def123ghi123jkl123:NUL

The first 3 lines check the from-address, if there is a match, the message
is places in the 'main' mailbox/folder and rules processing completes.
The last line says if that long string is NOT found in the headers anywhere,
then move to NUL (erase the message).

Basically make the last line a catch all  delete, so you have to build
exceptions above it.

-Tom

-Original Message-
From: Richard Farris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Select Email


Is there a way to set up an account that receives email from only a select
few addresses...

Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.800.548.3877

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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Reject Msg based on Size

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
It has been a feature of every version of IMAIL I remmeber using thus far.
Currently I have 6.x and it is located in both The web-administration tools
 Imail Admin

In IMAdmin,
Its on the first tab when clicking on a virtual host.
 Defatult Max mailbox size, Single message max size, default max messages
(count).

These are just the defaults for creating new users,
The limits themselves are actually set on the userlevel.
Tree down to a username, and click on the directory tab, here you can set
these limits.

For those of you using a SQL db like me, its easy to enforce the limits
(My host admin users sometimes get smart and will reset their limits
themselves beyond what I allow).
I run a daily (CF) script to reset all limits to my settings.

# this SQL call will get all of your IMAIL table 
# names stored in the same db, all of mine start with 'mail.'
# remove the last and name... 

select name from sysobjects where xtype='U' and name like 'mail%'

# Then loop through the results...
# note: maxsize is maximum mailbox size, not message size
cfloop query=gettable
cfquery name=setsize datasource=imail
UPDATE #name# set maxsize = 1024 
/cfquery
/cfloop


-Original Message-
From: Roger Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:14 AM
To: Andy Schmidt
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Reject Msg based on Size


Reply to: Andy Schmidt
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reject Msg based on Size on Monday 8:07:22 AM

This is not in my earlier version of Imail... Does this do this on an
account basis or domain basis? It must be in later versions unless I am
missing something.

--
Roger Heath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A Why not control the message size in Imail - you can set it per domain 
A and, I believe, per user.

A If the message exceeds the max message size, Imail will reject it - 
A and it will result in a bounce from the SENDING server.

A In fact, Imail's ESMTP will announce the max message size to the 
A sending server so that it can be rejected BEFORE it is transmitted 
A (at EHLO time!)

A Best Regards
A Andy

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.67 (beta) released

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Does the comments test require non-whitespace beforeafter the comments in
order to trigger?
So that most legit messages will not trigger it?



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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.67 (beta) released


We have just released Declude JunkMail v1.67 (beta).  See 
http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm .  Notable changes since the 
last beta include:

o Adds an AUTOWHITELIST ON option, to automatically whitelist 
addresses in recipient's address book
o Adds a comments test type, to detect anti-filter HTML comments 
(such as unsub!-- user --cribe)

Other additions and fixes can be found in the release notes, at 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail/iMail domain names.

2002-12-10 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
You can give them their own IP in your gateway, and assign it a hostname
of theirs.
I have about 20 Ips in my Imail machine.
The official name is mx01.web4less.net
But this is what appears in one of my headers (on the way to exchange)

Received: from fw2.netsmith.net [204.49.154.3] by mail.cfi.net with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-6.06) id A9D623630206; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:17:13 -0600

(mail.cfi.net is the hostname in imail for my 204.49.154.3 ip).


Mxfilter.THEIRNAME.COM might suit their needs. (and not mess up your gateway
process)
Just don't give it any users, and do NOT give it a host alias of
'theirname.com', or it will treat the mail local.

-Tom


-Original Message-
From: Mark Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail/iMail domain names.


Now that I think about it, changing that would probably screw up my Junkmail
license key. :)

No biggie...

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. 
 Scott Perry
 Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:16 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail/iMail domain names.
 
 
 
 After checking with my customers, I think that what they're
 referring
 to is the SMTP header. I don't think that I can change this but I'll
 try...
 
 In the SMTP header they see:
 
 Received: from popmail.netrends.com ([65.196.89.161]) by
 outboundsmtp.domain.com
 
 Hmmm... I don't think that there is any way to change that.
 However, you 
 might want to ask on the IMail Forum, as someone there will 
 likely know if 
 there is a way to change that (searching the IMail Knowledge Base for 
 HELO and EHLO -- the two SMTP commands where the domain 
 name would be 
 sent by IMail -- didn't turn up anything).
 -Scott
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test

2002-12-09 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Assuming the big guys spool OUT from their INBOUND MX records I think that
would hold true

But for example here at my office, we have (2) MX records, which are our
inbound filter gateways. However outbound mail spools through DIFFERENT
gateways, so all mail leaving my organization should actually fail that
test... Most likely the big guys also separate inbound and outbound mail
to different IP/servers.. 
(but I could be wrong)

-Tom

-Original Message-
From: Cris Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test


What if you set the positive weight of the popular domains equal to the
negative weight of the IPNOTINMX test?

Won't only invalid mail from these domains add to the accumulated weight?

Cris Porter
JVC America

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Populardomains test


I'm missing something that could trigger false positives?

What if I send you a note from my yahoo.com account that just happens to
trigger one of your filters because I am telling you about a new spam
technique?

With the way you have it set, just me sending a mail to you from my
yahoo.com account is now at 55% (or is that 70% if abuse is 15% and
postmaster is 15%) of your hold weight.

While I am also testing for those domains, I have that combination (total if
it fails domain, abuse and postmaster) at 50% of subject modification and
40% of hold.

Just my .02.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Web Based Interface

2002-12-02 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
I do store all of my user databases in SQL, but it doesn't really matter,
the CF side never see's the username/password. It's just a little trick I
did to verify the identity of the user.

My whitelist/blacklists are so very simple... I'm actually not using
declude's whitelists/blacklists... Those work via IMAIL's rules.ima
Any approved senders first.
[rules.ima]
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN
( sends any mail from approved-sender to main mailbox, stop's processing
rules on that message )

Then any black lists
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:NUL
( just deletes mail without any trace )

Then my weight-rule based on what level the client chose (header check)
H~X-SpamLevel-Low:SPAM

And of course in $default$.junkmail
LOW WARN X-SpamLevel-Low: This message triggered the low spam test
MEDIUM WARN X-SpamLevel-Medium: This message triggered the medium spam
test
HIGH WARN X-SpamLevel-High: This message triggered the high spam test

And [global.cfg]
HIGHweightrange x   x   1   15
MEDIUM  weightrange x   x   16  25
LOW weight  x   x   26  0

I am actually finishing up a revision that gives my users a way of
syncronizing their approved senders lists to their IMAIL address book, and
lets them upload/download their IMAIL address book so they can syncronize it
with Outlook Express.

When I first started this concept I posted my source to the list, but have
not updated that source in quite some time. Some of the source is specific
to my system (because of the billing system integaration), but most of what
you need is contained within just a couple of .cfm's.
I will send you them off list this afternoon.

-Tom

-Original Message-
From: Cxan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Web Based Interface


Tom,

This is exactly what I am talking about. I noticed that you used Cold Fusion
and that is what our developers use. The idea that I have is extremely close
to what you have done. I will search the archive to find your documentation.
For the approved and black list did you use a  table SQL database. I am
assuming that you are not saving your Imail user database in the registry.
The reason I ask is I am leaving our Imail user database just as it is (the
default) but yet we created a SQL table for whitelist/blacklist information.
It is very much a table that holds the rules for per domain or per user
email  address.  This way the users can very much populate this database
using interfaces very similar and almost identical to your interface. In
addition I wrote a external  program in Visual Basic that is call by
Declude. queries this table for each incoming email and makes decision and
contributes to Decludes weighting system based on the rules stated in the
database . That is mainly why I love the design and ideas behind Declude. I
was wondering if it is possible to get a copy of your .cfm files and modify
them?


Best Regards,

Mishi

- Original Message -
From: Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Web Based Interface


 The session string can be helpful for kicking a user between iwebmsg 
 and your own web server with only a single authentication point. I 
 have
already
 accomplished this with my system, and have integrated my online 
 billing / spam filters with the web templates.

 You can see an example of what I'm talking about at 
 http://mail.bsc.net/ Email= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Pass = declude

 Notice whenever your URL begins with http://mail.; you are in 
 IMAIL's Web messeging server, but whenever your URL begins with
http://signup.;
 you have followed a link which kicked you to my other web server, and 
 verified your login information from IMAIL. (preventing you from 
 having to login twice). ( for a specific example, click the spam 
 filters button )

 Search the mail archives at 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail%40declude.com/ to find my
older
 post which explains how I accomplish this, or ask if you are curious.

 I think this might be along the lines of what you are asking.

 -Tom

 -Original Message-
 From: Cxan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:35 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Web Based Interface


 Terry,

 You have been a great help today. I think the links that
 you sent me would be a good start.

 Many Thanks

 Mishi

 - Original Message -
 From: Smart Business Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Cxan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 5:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Web Based Interface


  Mishi
 
  Sunday, December 1, 2002 you wrote:
   The link that you sent me did not explain what I am asking for. 
   Let me explain my question a bit more: Suppose there is a virtual 
   domain called abcvirtual.com on a server called

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Web Based Interface

2002-12-01 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
The session string can be helpful for kicking a user between iwebmsg and
your own web server with only a single authentication point. I have already
accomplished this with my system, and have integrated my online billing /
spam filters with the web templates.

You can see an example of what I'm talking about at
http://mail.bsc.net/
Email= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pass = declude

Notice whenever your URL begins with http://mail.; you are in IMAIL's
Web messeging server, but whenever your URL begins with http://signup.;
you have followed a link which kicked you to my other web server, and
verified your login information from IMAIL. (preventing you from having to
login twice). ( for a specific example, click the spam filters button )

Search the mail archives at
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail%40declude.com/ to find my older
post which explains how I accomplish this, or ask if you are curious.

I think this might be along the lines of what you are asking.

-Tom

-Original Message-
From: Cxan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Web Based Interface


Terry,

You have been a great help today. I think the links that
you sent me would be a good start.

Many Thanks

Mishi

- Original Message -
From: Smart Business Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cxan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Web Based Interface


 Mishi

 Sunday, December 1, 2002 you wrote:
  The link that you sent me did not explain what I am asking for. Let 
  me explain my question a bit more: Suppose there is a virtual domain 
  called abcvirtual.com on a server called xyzserver.com. When a user 
  logs in to the server using Imail port 8383 then Imail creates a 
  bunch of security character strings like :
 
http://xyzserver.com:8383/Xade9939bcc9fcf9aee8571e9/menu.63104.cgi?mbx=Main
  What I am trying to figure out is what holds/creates the string : 
  Xade9939bcc9fcf9aee8571e9

   Oh, I did misunderstand.  I do not believe that the session id is
   well known.  It is certainly not documented in so far as I know and
   I've never seen a hack described.  There have been vulnerabilities
   described to acquire someone's session id but all I know presuppose
   the existence of the id.  Since the IMAIL password has been hacked
   and described I suspect the session id has not been or it would also
   be described somewhere.

   Therefore, I suspect your most promising path of exploration is to
   attempt to modify the templates after the session is created. See
   these links for aid on customizing web messaging templates and the
   special tags you can use:

  http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-2615-DM01.htm
  http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20010928-DM01.htm


http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/guide/imailug7.1/Appendix%20H%20cal_te
mplates5.html

 I know this is not answering your question but maybe it will help.


 Terry Fritts

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[Declude.JunkMail] FW: PayPal Account Confirmation

2002-11-01 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Title: PayPal



Sorry for posting 
HTML, but I wanted to preserve the original message at the 
bottom.
I received this 
fraudulent attempt at retrieving my paypal username and password from a 
bellsouth ADSL customer who is probably trying to steal money and probably 
having much success.
This email comes 
directly from his DSL modem into your mail server, he has his own SMTP 
engine.
all the images Link 
from paypal's official site, however the HTML FORM posts to a port5.com server, 
which appears to be based in the UK.

Received: from 
3t1y8s.yahoo.com (adsl-34-73-158.mia.bellsouth.net 
[67.34.73.158])by fw1.netsmith.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 
5135E7C07for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:27:57 
-0600 (CST)Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:27:42 -0800To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: PayPal Account Confirmation

I have already attempted to 
pass this message on to paypal, but anyone who has better communications with 
any authority please report this. 

I urge everyone to block this 
in their junkmail rules to protect their users.
This is what I have 
done

[global.cfg]
PAYPALFAKEfilter 
d:\imail\declude\filters\paypal.txtx00PAYPALFAKE2filter 
d:\imail\declude\filters\paypal.txtx00
[paypal.txt]
HEADERS 100 CONTAINS 
PayPal Account Confirmation
[$default$.junkmail]
PAYPALFAKESUBJECT [PAYPAL 
FRAUD! THIS IS FAKE] PAYPALFAKE2ROUTETO [your_address_to watch thse 
get caught]

Original Message 
Below!

Thank you,
Tom Baker
MCSE, CCNP
Network 
Administrator
Netsmith, Inc.


-Original Message-From: Service PayPal 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:28 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: PayPal Account 
Confirmation

  
  
 

  
  

  


  
  
Dear PayPal Customer
  

  
  This e-mail is the notification of recent innovations taken by PayPal 
  to detect inactive customers and non-functioning mailboxes.
  The inactive customers are subject to restriction and removal in the 
  next 3 months.
  Please confirm your email address by logging in to your PayPal account 
  using the form below:
  

  

  


  Email 
Address:
  

  Password:
  
   
  This notification expires November 1, 
  2002 
  
Thanks for using PayPal! 
  

  
This PayPal notification was sent to your mailbox. 
  Your PayPal account is set up to receive the PayPal Periodical newsletter 
  and product updates when you create your account. To modify your 
  notification preferences and unsubscribe, go to https://www.paypal.com/PREFS-NOTI 
  and log in to your account. Changes to your preferences may take several 
  days to be reflected in our mailings. Replies to this email will not be 
  processed. If you previously asked to be excluded from Providian 
  product offerings and solicitations, they apologize for this e-mail. Every 
  effort was made to ensure that you were excluded from this e-mail. If you 
  do not wish to receive promotional e-mail from Providian, go to http://removeme.providian.com/. Copyright© 2002 
  PayPal Inc. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the 
  property of their respective owners. 


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unwanted E-cards filling email inboxes

2002-10-27 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Or use domain processing rules

X:\imail\domain_com\rules.ima (gets processed before)
X:\imail\domain_com\users\username\rules.ima 


-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:jtolmachoff;reliancesoft.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unwanted E-cards filling email inboxes


Just use a regular rule in your rules.ima file.

But then I have to copy that to all users, correct?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
La Habra, CA  90631
www.reliancesoft.com


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[Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM (MX/A)

2002-10-08 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

X-RBL-Warning: MAILFROM: Domain web0.bsc.net has no MX/A records.

Just noticed in cleaning up DNS while back that i accidentally erased the A
record for my web servers official name.
( I have several A records point to it, and never use the above name ).

I've already fixed DNS, updated serial and verified my backups have updated.
Sent another message through and it failed again.

Does the DNS engine in declude cache failed lookups?
if so what do I need to do for it to refresh, or what is the time period
before it tries again? I could reboot, but this *is* a mail server we're
talkin about :)

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM (MX/A)

2002-10-08 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Thought I had IMAIL using my main 2 dns servers when in reality its using 2
of my caching servers. By the time I went to check them they had already
updated.

I'm just too impatient during debugging

Thanks again

-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MAILFROM (MX/A)



X-RBL-Warning: MAILFROM: Domain web0.bsc.net has no MX/A records.

Just noticed in cleaning up DNS while back that i accidentally erased 
the A record for my web servers official name. ( I have several A 
records point to it, and never use the above name ).

I've already fixed DNS, updated serial and verified my backups have 
updated.

... and http://www.DNSstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=web0.bsc.nettype=A 
does confirm this.

Sent another message through and it failed again.

Does the DNS engine in declude cache failed lookups?
if so what do I need to do for it to refresh, or what is the time 
period before it tries again? I could reboot, but this *is* a mail 
server we're talkin about :)

The DNS engine in Declude JunkMail does not cache entries; it relies on the 
DNS server that it connects to to do the caching.

You should check the first DNS server listed in the IMail SMTP settings to 
see if it has the old entry in it.  If so, you can simply restart it and it 
should forget the cached entry.
   -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH

2002-09-26 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

I use a difference of 3
HOP 0
HIGHHIGH 2

i love it...

I know of at least 1 server where they know their server is an open relay,
so they have their server set to send all outbound mail to another smtp
server which is not to get around open relay blocks, i still block them,
beecause they are hop 1 rather than hop 0 :)



-Original Message-
From: Bill B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH


How affective is scanning at multiple Hops?  I'm not setting HOPHIGH right
now...but I'm currious if the people who are using it are seeing its
benefits, or if it is causing them any problems.

And what is the recommended HOPHIGH setting (assuming HOP is set to 0)?

Bill


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail - Spamheaders

2002-09-23 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Well you are not taking into account systems like mine, which have a setup
like
HOP 0
HOPHIGH 4

Yes it adds CPU time, but any IP the message passes through gets tested on
my system,
And a PTR record does not take long to configure at all.

 on the Webserver. If your Webserver is IIS, why not have it send the 
 mails through the Virtual SMTP server?

What about when for XXX reason your Imail-SMTP server was unavailable when
the WEB/CGI script was called?
The message NEVER gets queued.
I personally do install the MS-SMTP server on my web servers, 
but do not let it deliver directly to the internet either.

I Set all CGI/ASP mail scripts to send mail to 127.0.01 or WEB_IP (but
on the local machine),
Thus the SMTP server is ALWAYS online when that same web server is online.
 Then under Properties, Delivery, Advanced Smart Host = [192.168.1.1] 
(brackets stop DNS lookups = save time)

-Tom


-Original Message-
From: Hirthe, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:40 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail - Spamheaders


Hello John,

 And if I use another tool, the webserver itself has no reverse lookup
 and no MX entry. It does not need this, because it will only send 
 mail. But why not eliminate one test failure and create a PTR record 
 for it?
We are only forwarding the mail from the webserver to IMail, and IMail
send's it out. So this PTR would only be for the communication on our
internal network. 
But, hmm, ok, it would fix a part of this problem. 
And it does only cost me time. And I have the DNS here. 

I'll try it. ;-)

 Unless some one else can come up with something different, in
 this case it would help. Just whitelist the address that the mail is
coming from
 on the Webserver. If your Webserver is IIS, why not have it send the 
 mails through the Virtual SMTP server?
First, I don't like Webservers sending direct mail to the world Second, I
like virus-proof mails and attachements. (we had user's sending out word
files with a macro virus in) Third, I personally don't like the IIS SMTP
Server. 
And I like to have only one logfile to search for errors ;)

Alex 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter types and Definitions?

2002-09-23 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Don't forget HEADERS!

I don't see it in the manual, but it was added and I am using it

:)

-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter types and Definitions?



I was wondering if someone could post the filter types and definitions. 
For example, I found these and I'm sure there are more.

BODY10  CONTAINSif the Body contains a word or
phrase
HELO10  CONTAINSif the HELO command contains a 
word or phrase
MAILFROM10  CONTAINSif the MAILFROM contains a word or 
phrase
REMOTEIP10  IS  if the REMOTEIP IS
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITHif REVDNS ENDSWITH
SUBJECT 10  CONTAINSif the SUBJECT contains a word or 
phrase
BODY10  CONTAINSif the BODY contains a word or
phrase

It's in the manual now.  You can filter on SUBJECT, HELO, BODY, MAILFROM, 
REMOTEIP or REVDNS.  Those will filter the subject, the HELO/EHLO hostname, 
the return address, the remote IP address, or the reverse DNS entry of the 
remote IP address.

You can use CONTAINS, STARTSWITH, ENDSWITH, or IS for determining a 
match.  They are pretty much self-explanatory -- IS is an exact match 
(hi matches just hi, not hi there or I said hi), STARTSWITH looks 
for something that starts with your filter (hi would match hi or hi 
there, but not I said hi), ENDSWITH looks for a match at the end (hi 
would match hi and I said hi, but not hi there), and CONTAINS matches 
anything that has your filter in it (hi would match hi, I said hi, 
hi there, and even white).
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fine tuning

2002-09-11 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Lower the weights of the noabuse/nopostmaster tests for one.
I think the default is 5 for each. The noabuse/nopostmaster tests fail for
most of the big guys (aol.com,earthlink.net,msn.com,etc,etc...)

Or You might play by raising the weight of the other tests and
trapping/bouncing on a higher WEIGHT. 

You might want to read the mail-archive as to why bouncing might not be such
a good idea. Bouncing can actually add extra load to mail servers as 90%
(whatever it is, it's a lot) of junkmail has a FORGED from address, so a
single bounce usually adds to multiple bounces until the loop ends.

You can also use the beta feature 'filter' to add negative weight for
certain providers rather than a complete whitelist. 
For documentation on the Beta FILTER feature see
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg02791.html
And as of 1.57 BETA a few updates were made to the FILTER type
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg03378.html

-Tom

-Original Message-
From: David Dodell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Fine tuning


I recently implemented using the bounce feature of Junkmail, and spam has
dropped 95%  however, there are a few users that are trying to send us
legtimate email, but their ISP's are listed and failing multiple tests ...

ie DSBLMULTI, DNSRBL-SPAM, NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER


I hate to start making whitelists for each of these people, since that list
could become very large very fast ... and obviously telling them their ISP
are junk is not going to work ...

For example one of them is Bellsouth.net which seems to fail multiple tests
... just whitelist them, but that would allow spam to come through ...

Suggestions on how to deal with this?

David

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ASP/CF/CGI/etc Web Developers....

2002-09-04 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Title: Message



So do I, but you 
still have to authenticate twice.

This was just an 
idea I had i thought i would share where you only authenticate once (Imail 
webmail) and can seamlessly integrate your own application with 
webmail.



  
  -Original Message-From: Mark Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 
  2002 7:31 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] ASP/CF/CGI/etc Web Developers
  but the biggest 
  stump can be there is no easy way to check authentication against the IMAIL 
  registry.
  
  This 
  isn't so hard if you write a COM .dll object to readfrom the 
  registry.
  In 
  any case, I don't store passwords in the registry... I use SQL for the IMAIL 
  "database"
  
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Baker | 
Netsmith IncSent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:55 
PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: 
[Declude.JunkMail] ASP/CF/CGI/etc Web Developers
The topic has 
been reachednumerous on this list so I thought I would share an idea I 
had earlier today that works great with everyone onthis list. 


Many of you have 
the idea's of writing your own parsers/interfaces for parts of declude or 
other parts of imail, but the biggest stump can be there is no easy way to 
check authentication against the IMAIL registry, or to integrate the 
features seamlessly into the imail/webmail interface.

Any developer 
can easily validate a session using an IMAIL session without ever needing or 
knowning the actual password of an account. I have commented my Cold Fusion 
authorization page [ cf_imail_login.txt ] so that no matter what language 
you code in you should be able to easily port.

For a working 
example feel free to check my "test" login I make available to this 
list.
http://mail.bsc.net/
login = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pass = 
declude
( click 
the "Junkmail" button and you will be sent to an external server, but the 
interface is identical )

*Note: my 
working example builds heavily on the attachments I have included. I 
stripped everything down to the bare logic so everyone can use this to suit 
their needs.

If anyone else 
finds this information nearly as useful as I did today please let me 
know.
I'm sure this 
will make using the filters much much simpler for my 
users.

-Tom





RE: [Declude.JunkMail] School system needs advice

2002-09-03 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Double that.

Using declude + sniffer I have not seen a piece of porn get through.
Only rarely do I see any spam get through.

I would highly suggestion getting sniffer, as much (adult + non-adult) spam
often passes all HEADER checks (which is what declude does alone), so you
must rely on something that checks the message body (sniffer).

Well worth the $$$!

(try their Free Demo to get a glimpse of what it does. Keep in mind you are
using old body definitions with their demo, and they give almost daily
updates once you register).




-Original Message-
From: Sheldon Koehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] School system needs advice


 I need good suggestions, both general and specific.

Spam is always going to get through at one time or another.

BUT, we have had success adding Sniffer (www.sortmonster.com) into the
Declude Junkmail mix. Our local competition uses Postini and the amount of
spam that gets by that over priced service is incredible. I have a friend
who's work place uses them and he laughs at the amount of spam he does not
have to see our service.

We also have an IMGate box (http://imgate.meiway.com) as our first line of
defense. By doing all of the above, our spam level is very low. I am always
tweaking the settings and spend more time on it than I would like. As an
ISP, I have to be more open to some of the known junk places for our users
that like getting coupons and junk on a daily basis. As a school district,
you will be able to get away with rejecting EVERYTHING Sniffer wants to
reject. newsletters included as they are not related to school needs. And
Sniffer seems to do a great job at catching porno spam!!!

Sheldon


Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause
and reflect. Mark Twain



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[Declude.JunkMail] ASP/CF/CGI/etc Web Developers....

2002-09-03 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Title: Message



The topic has been 
reachednumerous on this list so I thought I would share an idea I had 
earlier today that works great with everyone onthis list. 


Many of you have the 
idea's of writing your own parsers/interfaces for parts of declude or other 
parts of imail, but the biggest stump can be there is no easy way to check 
authentication against the IMAIL registry, or to integrate the features 
seamlessly into the imail/webmail interface.

Any developer can 
easily validate a session using an IMAIL session without ever needing or 
knowning the actual password of an account. I have commented my Cold Fusion 
authorization page [ cf_imail_login.txt ] so that no matter what language you 
code in you should be able to easily port.

For a working 
example feel free to check my "test" login I make available to this 
list.
http://mail.bsc.net/
login = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pass = 
declude
( click the 
"Junkmail" button and you will be sent to an external server, but the interface 
is identical )

*Note: my working 
example builds heavily on the attachments I have included. I stripped everything 
down to the bare logic so everyone can use this to suit their 
needs.

If anyone else finds 
this information nearly as useful as I did today please let me 
know.
I'm sure this will 
make using the filters much much simpler for my users.

-Tom







/center !-- END CENTER MAIL SUMMARY TABLE--

  pnbsp;/p

/td/tr !-- CLOSE MAIN DOCUMENT CELL AND OPEN FOOTER CELL --
trtd

table width=100% border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 bgcolor=#3399FF
tr tdFONT FACE=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif SIZE=4

/font/font/td/tr
/table


!-- CLOSE FOOTER COLOR CELL AND MAIN TABLE --
/td/tr
/table

!-- CLOSE BORDER CELL AND TABLE --
/td/tr
/table
/body
/html   



How to link back into IMAIL from your web-application.

I recommand doing a CFINCLUDE for both your header 
and footer from within your CF Applcation.

To ensure your look fits, just find a webmail template 
that has as little text as possible, preferabally one with
maybe a one-line message to you. (such as no messages)
View source, save then replace as needed.

Here is an example of your links:

a href=http://#mailip##imailuserkey#/logoff.#imailnumber#.cgi;
img src=http://#mailip##imailuserkey#/logoffbtn.gif; border=0 alt=Logoff 
width=74 height=24
/a







!--- example header template used in CF to link back to IMAIL
  Note: I wrote my own template parser which uses double ## rather than singe
  which is what you will see in this example
 ---

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN
html
head

TITLEMail Summary: Main/TITLE

  !--File: MSGSUM.HTML--
/head



body bgcolor=#FF topmargin=0 leftmargin=0

a name=Top/a

!-- THIS TABLE ENCLOSES THE ENTIRE PAGE CONTENTS WITH A COLORED BORDER--

table width=100% border=0 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0
tr td align=center bgcolor=#3399FF

!-- THIS TABLE ENCLOSES THE ENTIRE PAGE CONTENTS --
!-- OPEN HEADER CELL --

table width=100% border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0
tr td align=center bgcolor=#3399FFFONT FACE=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif 
SIZE=4!-- HEADER MENU --

table width=100% border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0
trtdFONT FACE=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif SIZE=4
bMailbox: Main/bnbsp;a name=topnbsp;/anbsp;nbsp;
font size=4#chklogin.imailemail#/td
tda 
href=http://##mailipchklogin.imailuserkey##/logoff.##chklogin.imailnumber##.cgi;
img src=http://##mailipchklogin.imailuserkey##/logoffbtn.gif; border=0 
alt=Logoff width=74 height=24/a
/font/font
/td/tr
trtd colspan=2FONT FACE=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif SIZE=4

!--Begin SumMenu.cgi This is not an IMAIL tag. Just info--
  a 
href=http://##mailipchklogin.imailuserkey##/menu.##chklogin.imailnumber##.cgi?mbx=Main;
img src=http://##mailipchklogin.imailuserkey##/menubtn.gif; border=0 
alt=Menu/a
  a 
href=http://##mailipchklogin.imailuserkey##/readmail.##chklogin.imailnumber##.cgi?uid=##chklogin.userid##mbx=Main;
img src=http://##mailipchklogin.imailuserkey##/checkmail.gif; border=0 
alt=Check Mail/a
  a 
href=http://##mailipchklogin.imailuserkey##/newmsg.##chklogin.imailnumber##.cgi?uid=##chklogin.userid##mbx=Main;
img src=http://##mailipchklogin.imailuserkey##/composebtn.gif; border=0 
alt=Compose/a
  a 
href=http://##mailipchklogin.imailuserkey##/searchmail.##chklogin.imailnumber##.cgi?uid=##chklogin.userid##mbx=Mainmsg=1;
img src=http://##mailipchklogin.imailuserkey##/search.gif; border=0 
alt=Search Mail/a
  a href=##script_name##?cpid=##cpid##p=##p##femail=##femail##a=step2
img border=0 src=http://CFServer.YourServer.Com/images/junkmail.jpg; 
width=72 height=24  
  /abr
!--End SumMenu.cgi--

/font
/td/tr
/table

!-- END HEADER MENU --



/td/tr  !-- CLOSE HEADER CELL AND OPEN MAIN DOCUMENT CELL --
trtd bgcolor=#FF align=centerFONT FACE=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif

BR




In order to link to our external mail server correctly a 
few alterations to the IMAIL templates must 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then manages
their rules.ima
Anyone they want to allow it writes at the top of the rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The problem with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for a
select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then  pass
the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.rleeheath.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Oh, for an address book only
You must also add one last entry at the bottom of rules.ima

H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL

That will force anything not matched in the above of rules.ima to be deleted

Ex:
--rules.ima--
H~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~declude.com:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL
--/rules.ima--

Anything that does not match the first 3 lines will be deleted



-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then manages
their rules.ima Anyone they want to allow it writes at the top of the
rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The problem with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for a
select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then  pass
the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Excuse the typo everyone, I meant to put a not (!)  in that long string

H!~THIS...

-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:41 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Oh, for an address book only
You must also add one last entry at the bottom of rules.ima

H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL

That will force anything not matched in the above of rules.ima to be deleted

Ex:
--rules.ima--
H~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~declude.com:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL
--/rules.ima--

Anything that does not match the first 3 lines will be deleted



-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then manages
their rules.ima Anyone they want to allow it writes at the top of the
rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The problem with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for a
select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then  pass
the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

2002-08-29 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Ok, I will stop posting on this thread after this.

For a working-example on how I have achieved this with imail and cold fusion
I have setup a test account.

Login = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pass  = declude

Manager: http://users.bsc.net/
WebMail: http://mail.bsc.net/

From the manager you can *import* an Outlook Express address book,
Or build your own, you can adjust the filter levels, and block individual
users.

These features just manage the rules.ima, which you can watch by going to
the web-mail
Interface and clicking Change Processing Rules

Anyone on this list is welcome to upload dummy address book's and play with
this account I just wanted to demonstrate to others how I have creatively
achieved this with IMAIL 6 / Cold Fusion.

* note: I built this interface before I became aware of the power of WEIGHT,
changing the filter-definitions to work with weights instead of individual
headers is on my to-do list, so if anyone actually does look at this please
don't flame me on how I could improve that. 
I am already aware :)





-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Excuse the typo everyone, I meant to put a not (!)  in that long string

H!~THIS...

-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:41 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Oh, for an address book only
You must also add one last entry at the bottom of rules.ima

H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL

That will force anything not matched in the above of rules.ima to be deleted

Ex:
--rules.ima--
H~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~declude.com:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL
--/rules.ima--

Anything that does not match the first 3 lines will be deleted



-Original Message-
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then manages
their rules.ima Anyone they want to allow it writes at the top of the
rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The problem with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-Original Message-
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for a
select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then  pass
the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? grin

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.rleeheath.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases mail forwarding

2002-08-29 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Easy, instead of mail forwarding use auto-responders but, don't have a
response
Which the web-messaging won't let you SETUP, but you can view

The actual way is via the filenames in the user folder
mail forwarding creates a file called
D:\imail\domain.com\users\Forward.ima 
(which contains the destiation address)

Instead, use PER MAILBOX forwarding
D:\imail\domain.com\users\main.fwd

Unless there is a 'spam.fwd' the SPAM mailbox will be retained, while all
'main' mail will be forwarded. (rename forward.ima to main.fwd)

-Tom

-Original Message-
From: Bill B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding


Scott or whomever,

Can you think of any way based on this, to force IMail to retain the message
in the sub-mailbox instead of forwarding it?  I don't see a way, but I
figured I'd ask.

Thanks


-Original Message-
From: Bill B .
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 8:59:39 EDT
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding


Here is where I was getting confused...

If you use the MAILBOX action, for example:
CATCHALLMAILS   MAILBOX spam

...when you use this action on an emaill address that has Mail Forwarding
turned on, it will still forward the message even though Declude attempts to
drop it into the sub-mailbox.  I guess that's an IMail thing.

Turning on declude debugging shows that it does in fact attempt to put it
into the sub-mailbox...

08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Using [incoming] CFG file
d:\imail\Declude\excedentmail.com\wboebel.junkmail.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 ...X.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Test #27 [CATCHALLMAILS weight=0]
triggered; action = 10 [] 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Msg failed
CATCHALLMAILS (). 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Moving spam to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s mailbox spam. 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip( 1, [EMAIL PROTECTED], spam); 08/29/2002
08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Loading queuefile 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Changing mailbox to spam. Altering queuefile.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Subject: test 3 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Looping...
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Done Looping
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip( 5, (null), (null));
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 AlterRecip: Saving queuefile
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 X-Note: Sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- f7.law4.hotmail.com ([216.33.149.7]). 08/29/2002 08:36:55
Q15660575013a39d5 AlterMessage 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Set
process priority back to 32. 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Adding
warning 08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Final action=0. 08/29/2002
08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Unlocked
d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Passing to SMTP3: d:\imail\smtp32.exe
d:\imail\spool\Q15660575013a39d5.SMD.
08/29/2002 08:36:55 Q15660575013a39d5 Total Time: 312ms


-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:17:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases  mail forwarding



Yep, I was careful about that. Since I put different text into the 
warning
for the CATCHALLEMAIL test in each $default$.junkmail I was able to 
reliably tell which configuration was being used for each email.

I was very confused up until then, so using the CATCHALLEMAIL test was
very handy and a good general debugging idea.

In that case, I would suggest using the debug mode, which should help clear 
this up.  To use the debug mode, you can change the LOGLEVEL LOW line in 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg to LOGLEVEL DEBUG.  Then, send an E-mail 
through like you were before, and then switch back to LOGLEVEL LOW.  You 
can then E-mail me the \IMail\spool\dec.log file (as an attachment), 
and I can take a look at it to see what is happening.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] filter file question

2002-07-26 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Nods. I like your idea in your last message. I might use similar techniques
in some of my scripts I write.

-Original Message-
From: Madscientist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] filter file question


Regexp is very cpu intensive.
_M

| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom 
| Baker | Netsmith Inc
| Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 2:43 PM
| To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
| Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] filter file question
| 
| 
| Regexp! :)
| 
| Probably wishful thinking, I'm sure writing in pattern
| matching would be a hefty involvement.
| 
| 
| -Original Message-
| From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:28 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] filter file question
| 
| 
| 
| Scott, I seem to recall reading a while back that in a future release 
| of Declude JunkMail that quote marks will be supported in the filter
| file.  Is this correct?  This would be a great addition to 
| the filter
| file, as now we periodically catch parts of a work in
| another word (it can
| be at the beginning, middle, or end of another word), which
| we did not
| intend to flag.  The quote marks around the word could allow
| us to specify
| to Declude that only exact matches should be flagged.
| 
| Yes, that is something that we are planning to add.  That
| way, you could 
| have something like:
| 
|  BODY  10  CONTAINS   word 
| 
| rather than:
| 
|  BODY  10  CONTAINS  word
| 
| (which would match anotherword).  However, this is a
| drawback inherent to 
| filtering:  filtering on  word  won't catch The sentence 
| ends with your 
| word. or After the word, there is a comma. (or any of many other 
| combinations).  So although the quotes will reduce false 
| positives, it may 
| also reduce the number of hits.
|  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Sniffer

2002-07-26 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Sniffer is great, Declude is great, they compliment each other great!

Declude handles all the header checks,
While Sniffer looks for patterns in the message body.

By running them both I receive almost NO SPAM at all...

Try their Demo to get an idea. ( they update their patterns almost daily! So
the trial isn't as effective as the commercial version since you can't
receive their updates ).

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Kratka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 3:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Sniffer


Just curious. How many people are using both Declude Junk Mail and the
sniffer add-on and has it made a difference if yes. I have been completely
pummeled with Spam and am looking for more options.

Thanks.

Jeff

*
TymeWyse Internet
P.O.Box 84 - 583 N. Main St., Canyonville, OR 97417
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative Weigh..

2002-07-19 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg02791.html
 
 (currently, this can be SUBJECT, HELO, BODY, MAILFROM, REMOTEIP or
REVDNS), 

It was your first column, it can ONLY be one of the above
(examples:)

SUBJECT -5 CONTAINS @text.com
HELO -5 CONTAINS @text.com
BODY -5 CONTAINS @text.com
MAILFROM -5 CONTAINS @text.com
REMOTEIP -5 CONTAINS @text.com
REVDNS -5 CONTAINS @text.com


-Original Message-
From: Kami Razvan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 8:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative Weigh..


Hi Again:
So - my interpretation is not correct for thinking that the following line
can be extended to NOABUSE, since the following is in the posting of the
filter feature
[http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg02791.html]

REVDNS   -5   CONTAINS   yahoo.com

Or is it because I have added the @ sign to @USAir.com

Is the @ sign the problem or something different with NOABUSE?

Regards,
Kami


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 8:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative Weigh..



In applying Negative weight to beta 1.56 -

We have:

NOABUSE  -9 CONTAINS @usairways.com

Note that NOABUSE  -9 CONTAINS @usairways.com doesn't mean anything to

Declude JunkMail.

That is the right format for a line in a filter file, but NOABUSE isn't 
something that Declude JunkMail is able to filter (IE it won't know where 
to look to find @usairways.com).  The first word needs to be a location 
for Declude JunkMail to try to find the filter text in; for example:

 MAILFROM -9 CONTAINS @usairways.com

Since the WordFilter has a weight of 5 and the NoAbuse has a weigh of 4

so
-9 should negate the effect of both.

But we get the following in an e-Mail from USAirways.

X-Spam-Tests-Failed: NOABUSE, WORDFILTER, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT15, HEUR10
X-Weight: 19

Am I interpreting this right that the -9 is not being applied?

If you change it to use MAILFROM instead of NOABUSE, it should work as 
you expect it to.
-Scott

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RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console

2002-07-17 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Actually I do believe I have seen KVM over LAN units (essentially what
everyone is talking about), but they are pricy. I'll try to find who made
them/where I saw them.


-Original Message-
From: Mark Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console


Sorry for the OT conversation :)

I could think of a number of corporate helpdesks that would purchase a few
of these units. Just think of the money that they would save on travel
costs.

Ship this unit to the site (even if it had a whole PC Attached to it).
Rebuild the WHOLE server (from ground up) and all you would need is a guy to
put floppies/CD's in the drives.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Madscientist
 Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:59 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
 
 
 We've worked on that beast in the lab - it's a side project.
 Haven't seen one out on the street - maybe it's out there somewhere. 
 
 The trouble is cost  bandwidth. Video capture  compression
 takes a lot of cycles and essentially requires a whole 
 computer to do - a high-end one at that, especially if you 
 want to minimize your updates by looking for changed window 
 features etc... lots of SW/HW. Finally decided to shelve it 
 until we can get custom hardware made to convert the video 
 signals back into reliable bit positions  run a specialized 
 sub-processor to recognize key features for the compression engine.
 
 _M
 
 | -Original Message-
 | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
 | Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:40 AM
 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
 | 
 | 
 | I always thought that if someone came out with a device that had KVM 
 | inputs and an Ethernet/modem output that would talk to another 
 | device, it would be the ultimate troubleshooting tool.
 | 
 | Imagine being able to send this device to a site 1000 miles away and 
 | having total control of the console -- EVEN during BIOS setup.
 | 
 | Who knows.. Maybe someone's done it. :)
 | 
 | 
 | 
 | 
 |  -Original Message-
 |  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 | Craig Gittens
 |  Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:30 AM
 |  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  Subject: RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
 |  
 |  
 |  Has anyone looked at Remtotely Anywhere? I use it and it
 | works great.
 |  
 |  http://www.remotelyanywhere.com
 |  
 |  Craig.
 |  
 |  -Original Message-
 |  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Ryan
 |  Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:51 AM
 |  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  Subject: Re: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console
 |  
 |  
 |  Have you tried TightVNC?  (www.tightvnc.com)  It was designed for
 |  slow connections and has a few more things tweaked for better 
 |  performance.  And it's also free.  Worth a look...
 |  
 |  TightVNC Features (from their web site):
 |  
 |  Local cursor handling. Cursor movements do not generate screen
 |  updates any more, remote cursor movements are processed 
 locally by
 |  the viewer, so you do not see remote cursor pointer
 moving too slow
 |  behind the local cursor.
 |  
 |  Efficient compression algorithms. New Tight encoding is optimized
 |  for slow and medium-speed connections and thus generates 
 much less
 |  traffic as compared to traditional VNC encodings. At the
 same time,
 |  TightVNC supports all the standard VNC encodings, so it can be
 |  easily configured to operate efficiently in fast network 
 |  environments too.
 |  
 |  Configurable compression levels. You can choose any appropriate
 |  level of compromise between compression ratios and coding speed, 
 |  depending on the your connection speed and processor power.
 |  
 |  Optional JPEG compression. If you don't care too much
 about perfect
 |  image quality, you can enable JPEG coder which would compress
 |  color-rich screen areas much more efficiently (and image quality 
 |  level is configurable too). Web browser access. TightVNC includes 
 |  greatly improved Java viewer with full support for Tight 
 encoding,
 |  local cursor feature, 24-bit color mode, and more. The
 Java viewer
 |  applet can be accessed via built-in HTTP server like in
 the standard
 |  VNC.
 |  
 |  Operating under Unix and Windows. All new features listed
 above are
 |  available in both Unix and Win32 versions of TightVNC.
 |  
 |  Advanced Properties dialog in WinVNC. Unlike the standard VNC,
 |  TightVNC gives you a possibility to set a number of advanced 
 |  settings directly from the WinVNC GUI, and to apply 
 changed settings
 |  immediately. There is no need to launch regedit to set query
 |  options, connection priority, to allow loopback 
 

[Declude.JunkMail] filter rule update request

2002-07-17 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Title: Message



http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg02791.html

 (currently, this can be SUBJECT, 
HELO, BODY, MAILFROM, REMOTEIP or REVDNS), 



Can we please add 
HEADER as one of the options?

I run Sniffer on 
postfix infront of Declude and would like to be able to have SNIFFER count as 
weight,
I was expecting 
to do this based on a filter test

[global.cfg]
SNIFFERfilterd:\imail\declude\filters\sniffer.txt x 0 
0
[sniffer.txt]
HEADER20 
CONTAINS X-SortMonster-Msg-Sniffer-Match
But after it 
didn't work I went and found that there is no HEADER check I can 
use
This would be 
great if it could be added to the next beta version!
( I would expect 
this would take minimal effort)


Thank 
you!


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] list of beta features?

2002-07-11 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

Ok, the filter test, that's what I meant
Yes, thank you :)

Didn't think to check the global.cfg link DUH



-Original Message-
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] list of beta features?



I know all the beta enhancements don't make it to the manual and you 
can
find by digging through the threads here,
but is there a beta manual I can use for reference for adding some of 
the new features?

The beta features are just discussed here -- there is no secret location 
for beta information.

I have read numerous threads regaurding the wordfile  helobogus tests,
and didnt decide to implement them until today...
But now I cant find the threads.

What is the sytax for defining the HELOBOGUS test and the external 
wordfile?

You can find the syntax for the HELOBOGUS test in the latest config files 
(the config files do get updated during the beta cycle).  There isn't a 
wordfile, I'm guessing you are referring to the new 
filtering? 
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg02791.html has 
the information on the filter test type.

---
After typing this I looked at my global.cfg,
I'm guessing from whats already there helobogus would be HELOBOGUS 
helobogus x x Y 0 where Y = weight ?

That is correct.
-Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Subscription Email failed SPAMHEADERS

2002-06-21 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Title: Message



After trying to 
subscribe to this list after a while I finally checked my spam folder and saw 
why I wasnt getting any replies.

Kind of amusing the 
email back from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
failed spamheaders.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Confirmation Required 
(confirmation #00252ab6503e832f6534d44)X-Confirmation: Provided by Declude 
http://www.declude.comDate: Fri, 21 Jun 
2002 06:39:27 -0400Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-RBL-Warning: 
SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam 
[420e].X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[]X-Declude-Spoolname: D02b712a.SMDX-Note: This E-mail was sent 
from ([66.189.58.123]).


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end?

2002-06-21 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Title: Message



Actually yes, I have 
written two seperate front ends, as an ISP having a frontend was essential to 
us. When we 
first purchased Junkmail Pro I went straight to work for customized versions of 
\imail\declude\domain.com\user.junkmail

After using that for 
a while and realizing what I really needed was a idiot proof way of managing the 
\mail\mail_domain_com\users\USER\rules.ima file.

The last frontend I 
wrote does just that, so I erased all my user.JunkMail files so that everyone on 
my system is using the $default$.Junkmail settings (which is set to WARN on 
everything for header entries).

My frontend has a 
main menu with 3 options:
Filterlevel, Blocked 
Senders and Approved Senders.

When first choosing 
any of the 3 my script sucks in the current rules.ima into a temporary SQL table 
(much easier to manage than a text file in CF).
The FilterLevel Menu 
has 5 Choices: Off, Low, Medium, High and Extreme as well as 2 actions (move to 
SPAM or permanently delete)
all 4 actual levels 
are defined by another SQL table of course,
and every level 
selected gets logged into another table. (so if you update the definitions of 
the levels you have a log of who has what level and can "push" the new rules.ima 
to your users).

Blocked Senders and 
Approved Senders work by putting entries in rules.ima to "Move to Main" and 
"Move to NUL" 

I haven't written 
the code to actually "push" updates to your definitions yet,
but I would be glad 
to post my code for both the user.JunkMail and the rules.ima scripts for those 
interested.






  From: Matt Robertson 
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end? 
  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:48:28 -0700 

Has anyone tried putting a web-based front end on Declude?  I just
upgraded to JunkMail Pro and am looking for something in ColdFusion.
Don't want to have to write it myself if I can avoid it.

--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com




RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end?

2002-06-21 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

My code is not in a format I am proud to share right now.
I am running through putting comments in, and writing a small text file to
put up.
I'll post the URL to the code by the end of the day.

All of my IMAIL domains are stored in a SQL db so anyone using the registry
will need to most likely need to do a few modifications, or maybe I can post
my registry-sql conversion scripts for Imail as well. (that decrypt
passwords too).

Thank you,
Tom Baker
MCSE, CCNP
Network Administrator
Netsmith, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end? 


Yes, please!  I'll post back whatever I come up with as well.

--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Baker |
Netsmith Inc
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:04 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end? 


Actually yes, I have written two seperate front ends, as an ISP having a
frontend was essential to us. When we first purchased Junkmail Pro I went
straight to work for customized versions of
\imail\declude\domain.com\user.junkmail

After using that for a while and realizing what I really needed was a idiot
proof way of managing the \mail\mail_domain_com\users\USER\rules.ima file.

The last frontend I wrote does just that, so I erased all my user.JunkMail
files so that everyone on my system is using the $default$.Junkmail settings
(which is set to WARN on everything for header entries).

My frontend has a main menu with 3 options:
Filterlevel, Blocked Senders and Approved Senders.

When first choosing any of the 3 my script sucks in the current rules.ima
into a temporary SQL table (much easier to manage than a text file in CF).
The FilterLevel Menu has 5 Choices: Off, Low, Medium, High and Extreme as
well as 2 actions (move to SPAM or permanently delete) all 4 actual levels
are defined by another SQL table of course, and every level selected gets
logged into another table. (so if you update the definitions of the levels
you have a log of who has what level and can push the new rules.ima to
your users).

Blocked Senders and Approved Senders work by putting entries in rules.ima to
Move to Main and Move to NUL 

I haven't written the code to actually push updates to your definitions
yet, but I would be glad to post my code for both the user.JunkMail and the
rules.ima scripts for those interested.




From: Matt Robertson 
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end? 
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:48:28 -0700 



Has anyone tried putting a web-based front end on Declude?  I just upgraded
to JunkMail Pro and am looking for something in ColdFusion. Don't want to
have to write it myself if I can avoid it.

--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com

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RE: IPWHOIS:Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end?

2002-06-21 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

SMTP Auth will not work for your virtual servers,
My workaround was to create a master username/password on my primary host
  username: domainclient
  password: smtpauth
  (exactly as listed)

And I just give out that username/password to my domain clients who can't
seem to use their own local SMTP server.

The registry-sql is a combination of perl and cold fusion scripts (I gave
up trying to decrypt the passwords in CFM, too much of a bitch).

I am going to get this other script published today and dig up my conversion
scripts Monday.



-Original Message-
From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:35 PM
To: Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Subject: IPWHOIS:Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end?


I would love to get a copy of you registry-sql conversion script. I been
thinking about doing this change for a while and would be nice to have a way
to decrypt the passwords to.

BTW is there any drawbacks on using sql database compared to registry ? I
think I recall seeing something somewhere about something with virtual
servers not working correctly but not sure about version or anything. Are
there any such issues if so what are they ?



Friday, June 21, 2002, 12:14:23 PM, you wrote:

TBNI My code is not in a format I am proud to share right now. I am 
TBNI running through putting comments in, and writing a small text file 
TBNI to put up. I'll post the URL to the code by the end of the day.

TBNI All of my IMAIL domains are stored in a SQL db so anyone using the 
TBNI registry will need to most likely need to do a few modifications, 
TBNI or maybe I can post
my registry-sql conversion scripts for Imail as well. (that decrypt
TBNI passwords too).

TBNI Thank you,
TBNI Tom Baker
TBNI MCSE, CCNP
TBNI Network Administrator
TBNI Netsmith, Inc.


TBNI -Original Message-
TBNI From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
TBNI Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:00 AM
TBNI To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBNI Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end? 


TBNI Yes, please!  I'll post back whatever I come up with as well.

TBNI --Matt Robertson--
TBNI MSB Designs, Inc.
TBNI http://mysecretbase.com
 
TBNI -Original Message-
TBNI From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBNI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Baker |
TBNI Netsmith Inc
TBNI Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:04 AM
TBNI To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
TBNI Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end? 


TBNI Actually yes, I have written two seperate front ends, as an ISP having
a
TBNI frontend was essential to us. When we first purchased Junkmail Pro I
went
TBNI straight to work for customized versions of
TBNI \imail\declude\domain.com\user.junkmail

TBNI After using that for a while and realizing what I really needed was a
idiot
TBNI proof way of managing the \mail\mail_domain_com\users\USER\rules.ima
file.

TBNI The last frontend I wrote does just that, so I erased all my
user.JunkMail
TBNI files so that everyone on my system is using the $default$.Junkmail
settings
TBNI (which is set to WARN on everything for header entries).

TBNI My frontend has a main menu with 3 options:
TBNI Filterlevel, Blocked Senders and Approved Senders.

TBNI When first choosing any of the 3 my script sucks in the current
rules.ima
TBNI into a temporary SQL table (much easier to manage than a text file in
CF).
TBNI The FilterLevel Menu has 5 Choices: Off, Low, Medium, High and Extreme
as
TBNI well as 2 actions (move to SPAM or permanently delete) all 4 actual
levels
TBNI are defined by another SQL table of course, and every level selected
gets
TBNI logged into another table. (so if you update the definitions of the
levels
TBNI you have a log of who has what level and can push the new rules.ima
to
TBNI your users).

TBNI Blocked Senders and Approved Senders work by putting entries in
rules.ima to
TBNI Move to Main and Move to NUL 

TBNI I haven't written the code to actually push updates to your
definitions
TBNI yet, but I would be glad to post my code for both the user.JunkMail
and the
TBNI rules.ima scripts for those interested.




TBNI From: Matt Robertson 
TBNI Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Coldfusion Declude front end? 
TBNI Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:48:28 -0700 



TBNI Has anyone tried putting a web-based front end on Declude?  I just
upgraded
TBNI to JunkMail Pro and am looking for something in ColdFusion. Don't want
to
TBNI have to write it myself if I can avoid it.

TBNI --Matt Robertson--
TBNI MSB Designs, Inc.
TBNI http://mysecretbase.com

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