Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues
Will, What version of Declude? I have been running Declude since 1.5x and have not seen any memory issues with Declude on high volume mail servers (125K+ messages per day). What are the symptoms you are seeing? I know on my systems I see smtpd memory consumption gain until it requires me to stop and restart that service. Darrell --- invURIBL - Intelligent URI Filtering. Stops 85%+ SPAM with the default configuration. Download a copy today - http://www.invariantsystems.com - Original Message - From: Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues I had noticed this with an older version and now that I am a Declude user again, I see we still have an issue. There appears to be a memory leak when running Declude on our Imail server, which is not there when I remove Delcude. My server will run for about two weeks before my memory gets to the point that it can no longer support the running processes and mail begins to get backlogged severely. Does anyone else run into this issue or find they need to instate automated reboots? I really do not want to do this. Will --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues
Darrell, I am using Declude 2.0.6 on Imail 8.15. When the issue occurs I notice Page file usage over 1.5GB, where it is normally around 450MB. The last occurrence I also noticed that there were hundreds upon hundreds of Declude.exe processes in addition to this. I stopped the smtp and queue manager service, but many declude processes stayed, the memory usage did not go down. After ending all of them manually and restarting the smtp service, once again hundreds of declude.exe processes occurred. After restarting the server complete, the issue was resolved and I could start to process the 180,000 some message that were backlogged in /spool. Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues Will, What version of Declude? I have been running Declude since 1.5x and have not seen any memory issues with Declude on high volume mail servers (125K+ messages per day). What are the symptoms you are seeing? I know on my systems I see smtpd memory consumption gain until it requires me to stop and restart that service. Darrell --- invURIBL - Intelligent URI Filtering. Stops 85%+ SPAM with the default configuration. Download a copy today - http://www.invariantsystems.com - Original Message - From: Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues I had noticed this with an older version and now that I am a Declude user again, I see we still have an issue. There appears to be a memory leak when running Declude on our Imail server, which is not there when I remove Delcude. My server will run for about two weeks before my memory gets to the point that it can no longer support the running processes and mail begins to get backlogged severely. Does anyone else run into this issue or find they need to instate automated reboots? I really do not want to do this. Will --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues
Will, This is a bug in 2.0.6 and I have seen it as well. In fact I have opened a support ticket on this. This is what I have found in regards to this under 2.0.6. When a Declude process finishes processing a message it checks to see if there any files are in the overflow directory. If there are files in the overflow and you are under your max declude processes it will spawn a Declude process to work on the overflow directory. What I have seen is that under high load something goes wrong with this process and Declude will launch Declude processes until the server crashes (or exhibits symptoms like you described). I suspect this occurs because the box is so loaded Declude is unable to get an accurate Declude process count so it seems to think it is under its max limit when it is not. I did catch all of this in debug mode and the Declude support department is working on the issue although I have not heard an update to it in a while. I would suggest you open a support ticket on this issue as well. To combat this I switched from AV first to AV after Junkmail this has dropped the boxes load down considerably. The other thing I would suggest you do is look at our QueueMon product which will monitor the Imail and Declude queue and notify you /and/or run an external script to recover in situations like this. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues Darrell, I am using Declude 2.0.6 on Imail 8.15. When the issue occurs I notice Page file usage over 1.5GB, where it is normally around 450MB. The last occurrence I also noticed that there were hundreds upon hundreds of Declude.exe processes in addition to this. I stopped the smtp and queue manager service, but many declude processes stayed, the memory usage did not go down. After ending all of them manually and restarting the smtp service, once again hundreds of declude.exe processes occurred. After restarting the server complete, the issue was resolved and I could start to process the 180,000 some message that were backlogged in /spool. Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues Will, What version of Declude? I have been running Declude since 1.5x and have not seen any memory issues with Declude on high volume mail servers (125K+ messages per day). What are the symptoms you are seeing? I know on my systems I see smtpd memory consumption gain until it requires me to stop and restart that service. Darrell --- invURIBL - Intelligent URI Filtering. Stops 85%+ SPAM with the default configuration. Download a copy today - http://www.invariantsystems.com - Original Message - From: Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues I had noticed this with an older version and now that I am a Declude user again, I see we still have an issue. There appears to be a memory leak when running Declude on our Imail server, which is not there when I remove Delcude. My server will run for about two weeks before my memory gets to the point that it can no longer support the running processes and mail begins to get backlogged severely. Does anyone else run into this issue or find they need to instate automated reboots? I really do not want to do this. Will --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues
Thank you for the info, much appreciated. There were two messages in my overflow at the time, which I have since deleted, but helps me to understand what has happened. Thanks! Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:20 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues Will, This is a bug in 2.0.6 and I have seen it as well. In fact I have opened a support ticket on this. This is what I have found in regards to this under 2.0.6. When a Declude process finishes processing a message it checks to see if there any files are in the overflow directory. If there are files in the overflow and you are under your max declude processes it will spawn a Declude process to work on the overflow directory. What I have seen is that under high load something goes wrong with this process and Declude will launch Declude processes until the server crashes (or exhibits symptoms like you described). I suspect this occurs because the box is so loaded Declude is unable to get an accurate Declude process count so it seems to think it is under its max limit when it is not. I did catch all of this in debug mode and the Declude support department is working on the issue although I have not heard an update to it in a while. I would suggest you open a support ticket on this issue as well. To combat this I switched from AV first to AV after Junkmail this has dropped the boxes load down considerably. The other thing I would suggest you do is look at our QueueMon product which will monitor the Imail and Declude queue and notify you /and/or run an external script to recover in situations like this. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues Darrell, I am using Declude 2.0.6 on Imail 8.15. When the issue occurs I notice Page file usage over 1.5GB, where it is normally around 450MB. The last occurrence I also noticed that there were hundreds upon hundreds of Declude.exe processes in addition to this. I stopped the smtp and queue manager service, but many declude processes stayed, the memory usage did not go down. After ending all of them manually and restarting the smtp service, once again hundreds of declude.exe processes occurred. After restarting the server complete, the issue was resolved and I could start to process the 180,000 some message that were backlogged in /spool. Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:09 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues Will, What version of Declude? I have been running Declude since 1.5x and have not seen any memory issues with Declude on high volume mail servers (125K+ messages per day). What are the symptoms you are seeing? I know on my systems I see smtpd memory consumption gain until it requires me to stop and restart that service. Darrell --- invURIBL - Intelligent URI Filtering. Stops 85%+ SPAM with the default configuration. Download a copy today - http://www.invariantsystems.com - Original Message - From: Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues I had noticed this with an older version and now that I am a Declude user again, I see we still have an issue. There appears to be a memory leak when running Declude on our Imail server, which is not there when I remove Delcude. My server will run for about two weeks before my memory gets to the point that it can no longer support the running processes and mail begins to get backlogged severely. Does anyone else run into this issue or find they need to instate automated reboots? I really do not want to do this. Will --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues
Well, since Declude.exe is called from Imail SMPTD.exe and Declude.exe closes as soon as it is done processing it would be nearly impossible to say that Declude.exe had a memory leak and was holding memory unless the process never ended in which case messages processed by Declude.exe never got delivered. Memory leaks are caused by programs that remain running. Once a program closes it releases all its resources. By closing, I mean it no longer is listed in Task Manager. If you run Task Manager you can select columns and look and sort by Memory Use and see what is hogging the memory. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 6:40 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues I had noticed this with an older version and now that I am a Declude user again, I see we still have an issue. There appears to be a memory leak when running Declude on our Imail server, which is not there when I remove Delcude. My server will run for about two weeks before my memory gets to the point that it can no longer support the running processes and mail begins to get backlogged severely. Does anyone else run into this issue or find they need to instate automated reboots? I really do not want to do this. Will --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues
Darrell, I see this same problem with SMTPd as well. I have worked with Ipswitch but still have not found a resolution. I even (in an attempt to rule out everything) bypassed Declude completely but it still did not seem to help. It happened on 8.15 and even does it still on 8.20 with HF1 (and Declude 2.0.6.2). I have seen that others are having this problem as well. Imail is definitely aware of it. I hope they find a resolution soon.. For the record, Our server load has dropped considerably since we added our new Filtering Gateway and even with 1/10th of the load, the Mail server is still experiencing the same problem.. I cannot tell if Defragging the Users directory is helping but it seems to have subsided a bit since I have (but it still occurs occasionally). If I find anything out, I will be sure to post to this list as well as The Imail list.. Anton Flint Information Boulvard - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues Will, What version of Declude? I have been running Declude since 1.5x and have not seen any memory issues with Declude on high volume mail servers (125K+ messages per day). What are the symptoms you are seeing? I know on my systems I see smtpd memory consumption gain until it requires me to stop and restart that service. Darrell --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
