RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-22 Thread Bill
PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System Hello, All, Over the year or so that I've been reading the discussions on this list it seems I've read quite a bit about people scaling their weights up, i.e. instead of having a HOLD weight of 10, you

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-22 Thread Markus Gufler
I think it's not possible to calculate the weight of an individual test strictly from his catch/failure rate.   On http://www.zcom.it/spamtest/ you can see what we generate from our daily logfiles.   In my opinion it's not enough to count wrong or right results.   Theoretically there are 5 p

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-22 Thread Darin Cox
Guess we can't sing Monty Python songs then, can we? Darin.     - Original Message - From: Matt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System I call them false positives, big whoop.  I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-22 Thread Matt
al Message - From: "Dan Geiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System Hi, Scott, Thanks for the feedback. The more I thought about it after sending the e-m

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-22 Thread Scott Fisher
%) that fail this particular test but are not spam. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Dan Geiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System Hi, Scott, Than

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-22 Thread Darin Cox
- Original Message - From: "Dan Geiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System Hi, Scott, Thanks for the feedback. The more I thought about it afte

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-22 Thread Dan Geiser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System If a test false positived 37% of the time, I certainly wouldn't be weighing it that high. Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies >>&

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-22 Thread Todd Ryan
I did exactly this when we added SPAMCHK as a test last year.  I believe they recommended this range because spamchk would add a lot of small weights and a 1-10 scale is too narrow.  It also allows us to create filters with words that are more common in non-spam, but more likely to be spam in h

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-22 Thread Scott Fisher
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:25 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System Dan, We've choosen to scale up the weighting system exactly for the two reasons you've mentioned below: -more granularity -absolute weight and percent

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-22 Thread Dan Geiser
, Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:25 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System Dan,   We've choosen to scale up the weight

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-20 Thread Markus Gufler
he "inside" weights set up for a Hold-on-20 weighting system.   Markus     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan GeiserSent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:48 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighti

[Declude.JunkMail] Scaling Up The Declude Weighting System

2004-04-20 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All, Over the year or so that I've been reading the discussions on this list it seems I've read quite a bit about people scaling their weights up, i.e. instead of having a HOLD weight of 10, you might have a HOLD weight of 100 and then you adjust the corresponding test weights accordi