Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-20 Thread Mike K
on as no legit mailer should be hiding urls like that. Mike - Original Message - From: Madscientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:47 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed | | However, that's the way spam control is heading

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-20 Thread Madscientist
on. | | This should be very easy to filter on as no legit mailer | should be hiding urls like that. | | Mike | | | | | | | - Original Message - | From: Madscientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:47 PM | Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message We have seen quite a lot. It is happening more and more. If HTML comments could be ignored it would be a great addition. I wonder what would be the downfall of the idea? I also think another filter that can be considered is the routing type filter. I don't know if bad

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
The sneaky buggers are at it again. I've been getting more and more emails that don't fail any tests at all, but should be caught as spam due to multiple wordfilter hits. I had a look at the message (HTML) source, and found this: Hum!--nnbvmx--an Gr!--d--owth Hor!--fjkg--mone

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
I guess one way to combat this is if the Country filter is additive. For example the weight of each country detected is added to the total weight. Does the filter do this? Yes, it does. :) -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Markus Gufler
Title: Nachricht If you can wait for some weeks we can provide an external test-program that make some content-based tests. At the moment we have ready the first tests wich tries to identify things like HTML-only mails, subject with spaces (yes, the same as Decludes spamheaders-test) and

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Madscientist
: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed | | | | The sneaky buggers are at it again. I've been getting more and more | emails | that don't fail any tests at all, but should be caught as | spam due to | multiple wordfilter hits. I had a look at the message (HTML) | source, and | found this: | | Hum

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
We attempted implementing a test that counts the number of html comments and found that it was impractical as it consistently captured a large number of legitimate services. (Scott, you indicated that it might catch some - our experience has been that it captures so many we had to drop it.) I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Smart Business Lists
R., Tuesday, November 19, 2002 you wrote: RSP I can understand an HTML E-mail having one or two comments in it, RSP but 10 or 20 is just a waste of bandwidth. That is information RSP the recipient will never see. Lots of the content management systems are heavily commented so I see a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
Lots of the content management systems are heavily commented so I see a lot of comments in html messages to subscribers. However, they are not commented between words but that's a difficult parse I think. Aha... that could be the key! A spammer will use something like

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Madscientist
| | However, that's the way spam control is heading. As more and | more people | get fed up with spam, more and more of the bozos that are | doing things the | wrong way will need to fix their problems. | | I can understand an HTML E-mail having one or two comments in | it, but 10 or | 20

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Madscientist
] | Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed | | | | Lots of the content management systems are heavily | commented so I | see a lot of comments in html messages to subscribers. | | However, they are not commented between words but that's a | difficult parse I