. I believe that
SmarterTools has now rectified that.
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From: Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
However, the contents of the HDR file
Good news. Thanks!
I'll try it out again, then.
-d
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From: David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Dave,
This was a problem
See below.
David Franco-Rocha
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From: David Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:28 PM
Subject: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Hello David,
Friday, April 29, 2005, 4:55:53 PM, you wrote:
DFRD
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From: David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
See below.
David Franco-Rocha
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From: David Sullivan
: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway
with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it
could ..
Yes, that is absolutly correct - Declude will work on Smartermail
on the basis of headers added
to the message by Declude.
David Franco-Rocha
- Original Message - From: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED
I downloaded the SM/Declude demo, thinking of moving from Imail. One
thing I noticed is that for each message, SM appeared to move it's
version of the D/Q files from spool, to a processing folder and then
process it. This seems like twice the necessary disk activity over
just processing it from
it out of the spool prevents SmarterMail from grabbing the file until
Declude has finished with it.
David Franco-Rocha
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From: David Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:42 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail
Hello David,
Friday, April 29, 2005, 4:27:38 PM, you wrote:
DFRD msg to Declude and, after a set period of time, tries to deliver it.
Taking
DFRD it out of the spool prevents SmarterMail from grabbing the file until
DFRD Declude has finished with it.
So there is an inherent delay in the
Hello Sanford,
SW If it's just a file move to another location on the same volume, it
SW should hardly be noticeable. A copy would be another story.
That's what I thought. But when disk I/O is already a big issue, it's
hard to add anything more.
--
Best regards,
David
the email immediately.
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From: David Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ] Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:34 PM
Subject: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Hello David,
Friday, April 29, 2005, 4:27:38 PM
On 4/29/05, David Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So there is an inherent delay in the delivery of all messages? How
long?
Whatever you set it to be. Mine is 30 seconds.
--
--mattRobertson--
Janitor, MSB Web Systems
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]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
No, there is not an inherent delay in the delivery of all messages. If
Declude does not complete processing within a specified time period,
SmarterMail tries to take the file. However, if Declude finishes processing
sooner, SmarterMail knows
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From: David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Declude does not currently plug directly into SmarterMail's spam tools.
They
are completely separate
folder.
Shayne
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imail Admin
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:06 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
We use Declude JM Pro with IMail, and have been
Hello David,
Friday, April 29, 2005, 4:55:53 PM, you wrote:
DFRD No, there is not an inherent delay in the delivery of all messages. If
DFRD Declude does not complete processing within a specified time period,
DFRD SmarterMail tries to take the file. However, if Declude finishes
processing
So,
Ok -- time for the question again.
Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration?
Comments appreciated.
Rob
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Moved 3 installs from Imail to SM/DECLUDE.
Wish I would have done it sooner.
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From: Robert Grosshandler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:22 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Ok -- time
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:23 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Ok -- time for the question again.
Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration?
Comments appreciated
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Robert Grosshandler
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:23 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Ok -- time for the question again.
Thumbs up or down
My Imail license is relegated to SMTP traffic generated by a
ColdFusion server. SmarterMail took over the public-facing mail
chores shortly after Ipswitch killed Imail in favor of ICS.
Second the comment about the web interface. Its as if grownups
designed it versus hobbyists. Sounds harsh but
://www.invariantsystems.com.
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From: Michael Jaworski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
The price for SM from Declude was great. Even better yet is SmarterMail
: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Ok -- time for the question again.
Thumbs up or down on the declude / smartermail integration?
Comments appreciated.
Rob
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. SPF also was already in SmarterMail...
Kevin Bilbee
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of IMail Admin
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:12 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
So how
Robertson
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
My Imail license is relegated to SMTP traffic generated by a ColdFusion
server. SmarterMail took over the public-facing mail chores shortly after
Ipswitch killed Imail
We're doing just that. Using SmartMail's web services we can generate a list of all accounts and aliases on the system. We then just script that list over toour Postfix on a set schedule.ShayneDoes Smartermail have any features built in for gateway based systems - i.e.load a list of accounts that
@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Does Smartermail have any features built in for gateway based systems -
i.e.
load a list of accounts that are valid that you gateway for envelope
rejection?
Darrell
hmm .. .I think I'm confused. You're saying Imail has a way to load user
accounts for gateway systems? All I've ever seen is the host file hack
for adding gateway domains, but I've never seen a way to load user
accounts. Am I missing something?
No it does not have this feature built in but
feature just about
useless in my book.
-d
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From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:49 PM
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Does Smartermail have any features built
Monitoring, SURBL/URI
integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
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From: Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Not the last time I asked
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To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Does Smartermail have any features built in for gateway based systems
- i.e.
load a list of accounts that are valid that you gateway for envelope
rejection?
Darrell
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain filtering gateway
with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam saying it
could ..
Yes, that is absolutly correct - Declude will work on Smartermail.
So I was just playing with the SM web
You are right. IMail has no such feature, either. With Imail, I currently
take the user data right from the registry using the .NET registry classes,
reformat it, and send it on to my gateway. Of course, if you use an external
database with Imail you can run queries against that.
It just seems
Seems like it'd be trivial to write, hooking their svcUserAdmin.asmx and
svcDomainAliasAdmin.asmx (GetAliases and GetUsers). Yeah, it'd be nice
if they do it natively, but it looks like a 1 hour project to do it
manually. Guess I wouldn't be too worked up about that.
Jonathan
Dave Doherty
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act as a domain
filtering gateway
with Declude, right? Pretty sure I saw some marketing spam
saying it
could ..
Yes, that is absolutly correct
Hi Jonathan-
Thanks for pointing that out. I'm really surprised their tech support folks
didn't recommend it.
-d
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From: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:09 PM
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To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Seems like it'd be trivial to write, hooking their svcUserAdmin.asmx
and svcDomainAliasAdmin.asmx (GetAliases and GetUsers). Yeah, it'd be
nice if they do it natively
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:57 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail
Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Sidenote, I assume SmarterMail can act
No it does not have this feature built in but Sandy wrote some nifty
scripts that make this task a bit easier.
. . . see my sig for details.
--Sandy
Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
Yup, I've seen that in your sig for years .. just never had a use for it. :)
Jonathan
Sanford Whiteman wrote:
No it does not have this feature built in but Sandy wrote some nifty
scripts that make this task a bit easier.
. . . see my sig for details.
--Sandy
On 4/28/05, Robert Grosshandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why didn't you point your CF server at smartermail?
It gave me an entirely separate mail engine. I have customers with
(legitimate) association mailing lists and in (small) part this lets
me split the load. SM could handle that load, but
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