Corey
I figure it's more likely that they simply ripped the whole VCL source and
started changing it to work with their compiler platform. That is,
after
all, the Linux Way.
This is a little cruel, inaccurate and bigoted
Neven
Neven MacEwan wrote:
Corey
I figure it's more likely that they simply ripped the whole VCL source and
started changing it to work with their compiler platform. That is,
after
all, the Linux Way.
This is a little cruel, inaccurate and bigoted
Bigoted how? The Linux Way is, as
Corey
I hope you're not going to accuse me of being a linux hater.
No That would be an assumption.
However "Open Source" does not mean violate others rights to license their
software how they choose.
I don't see that simply because the VCL has a partially open source you
would rip it off
Also
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Corey Murtagh wrote:
clean-roomed. In fact I'd be very surprised if you couldn't find a fair
amount of the Borland/Inprise VCL code in there somewhere.
Apart from all the Windowsisms being removed and rewritten to work with
GTK and linux based stuff.
Corey Murtagh wrote :
I mean from the screen dumps, the source code is practically identical
even
to having the component names the same etc.
well, what else ya gonna call a button?
TWidgetThingThatsClickedOnAndLooksLikeAButton ;-)
Point(s) taken, but how if you check out
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Nahum Wild wrote:
But if Lazarus, say, fixes the warts and adds a tweak here, an enhancement
there and tries not to touch windows then there is no way that any
Tries not to touch windows? Has something changed with Lazarus then?
Cause it used to be a GTK/Linux/X11 only
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But if Lazarus, say, fixes the warts and adds a tweak here, an
enhancement
there
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Nahum Wild wrote:
But if Lazarus, say, fixes the warts and adds a tweak here, an
enhancement
there and tries not to touch windows
Nahum Wild wrote:
Oops, my mistake. It was a stupid hour in the morning that I wrote it
though.
Well then, since the it "can't" touch windown because it ain't there then
there is no way that you would could use much of the borland VCL.
Except perhaps for all the thousands of lines of
What's the official view of Lazarus at Inprise? I mean, they must have
copied some of your source code and the OP language which appears to be
proprietary.
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What's the official view of Lazarus at Inprise? I mean, they must have
copied some of your source code and the OP la
license i.e. cannot make a Paradox like application with it.
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Officially, I
RAD environment maybe not...but when you see something that is more or
less
a clone of Delphi...
yup, they had the language the same as Delphi 1.0 last time I looked.
I mean from the screen dumps, the source code is practically identical
even
to having the component names the same etc.
the component name
and everything that comes after it?
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RAD environment maybe
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Patrick Dunford wrote:
What's the official view of Lazarus at Inprise? I mean, they must have
copied some of your source code and the OP language which appears to be
proprietary.
Do you mean FPK or Lazarus? The Lazarus project was written by looking at
what TForm and
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Patrick Dunford wrote:
Is OP proprietary or not, can they make their own compiler for the language?
I guess there is a question of whether they copied component source code to
make their components.
From memory, Lazarus uses GTK underneath, it's been awhile since I was
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Nic Wise wrote:
yup, there always has been - you can't make a Delphi-like product in Delphi,
BUT AFAIK, freepascal compiles itself, and Delphi is not involved anywhere
in the mix.
One thing I'll be interested in seeing is, wheather or not its possibly to
use use Lazarus
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Patrick Dunford wrote:
Isn't the entire code covered by the copyright including the component name
and everything that comes after it?
I hope not, if so, does that mean that any component I write that derives
from TButton or TComponent is copyrighted to Borland? I hope
]: Lazarus vs Kylix
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Patrick Dunford wrote:
Isn't the entire code covered by the copyright including the
component name
and everything that comes after it?
I hope not, if so, does that mean that any component I write that derives
from TButton or TComponent is copyrighted
Nic Wise wrote:
snip
I mean from the screen dumps, the source code is practically identical
even
to having the component names the same etc.
well, what else ya gonna call a button?
TWidgetThingThatsClickedOnAndLooksLikeAButton ;-)
Point(s) taken, but how if you check out their
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Nic Wise wrote:
snip
I mean from the screen dumps, the source code is practically identical
even
to having the component names the same etc.
well, what else
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I guess there is a question of whether they copied component source code
And how far can you really go towards cloning an existing product before
you
are likely to get sued for copyright infringement? here we do have a
product
that resembles Delphi's IDE quite closely.
I guess it depends on the company, the product, how "close" it is, and if
the "look and feel"
But MS doesn't publish its source code to Windows, do they? So the Wine
people would not be having the opportunity to copy existing code? (They
could disassemble the DLLs and reverse engineer them but that's not quite
the same thing as working on high level source code)
Not last time I
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