RE: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-22 Thread Max Renshaw-Fox
CTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nic Wise Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 1999 10:22 To: Multiple recipients of list DELphi Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ Interestingly MS have bought Visio, which gives then a serious data-modelling tool, as well as UML stuff, though they are

RE: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-21 Thread Nahum Wild
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 10:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list DELphi Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ Tony Blomfield wrote: Vis Studio comes with Rational Rose. Have you _used_ Rational Rose?? I was exceptionally unimpressed. The method is OK, the tool is crap

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-21 Thread Tony Blomfield
] Date: Tuesday, 21 September 1999 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ Tony Blomfield wrote: Vis Studio comes with Rational Rose. Have you _used_ Rational Rose?? I was exceptionally unimpressed. The method is OK, the tool is crap. Not that the others are that much better

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-20 Thread Tony Blomfield
t I'd just not buy it. Max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phil Scadden Sent: Thursday, 16 September 1999 08:52 To: Multiple recipients of list DELphi Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ Just someone mentoned adjusted prices and

RE: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-20 Thread Myles Penlington
: Mark Derricutt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 11:12 AM To: Multiple recipients of list DELphi Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Nic Wise wrote: Just need one for CVS or whatever the GNU one is, and it would really

RE: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-20 Thread Mark Derricutt
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Myles Penlington wrote: I have seen in my Web travels a VCS for delphi that uses RCS/CVS/GNU Version - But then I have not bookmarked it - I think I may have got the original web reference from this list, probably a search on href... will find it - it was a

RE: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-19 Thread Max Renshaw-Fox
st not buy it. Max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phil Scadden Sent: Thursday, 16 September 1999 08:52 To: Multiple recipients of list DELphi Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ Just someone mentoned adjusted prices and

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-16 Thread Richard Vowles
Its a perfect reason to suggest that anyone buying Delphi now gets Maintenance Its around 30 or 40% I know, but It means you get the next one free. Tony Blomfield wrote: Perhaps I deleted one to many...! Just someone mentoned adjusted prices and I wondered if perhaps the somewhat

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-16 Thread Richard Vowles
Aaron Scott-Boddendijk wrote: These had all been passed on to inprise but I guess they don't think that they'd be that useful :( You'll be pleased that many of these were discussed in the "What to put in Delphi 6" - but they just ran out of time, really they just ran out of time. -- Richard

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-16 Thread Mark Derricutt
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Richard Vowles wrote: Its a perfect reason to suggest that anyone buying Delphi now gets Maintenance Its around 30 or 40% I know, but It means you get the next one free. Mmmm, I guess one reason why I think not many people think of going for Maintenance, is that

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-16 Thread Richard Vowles
Hi Mark, Maintenance is just a percentage of the original value of your purchase price. I'm not sure exactly how it works, perhaps Kerry or Nic could look it up for you? Mark Derricutt wrote: What do you need to qualify for maint? I have D2 Developer (personal) and wouldn't mind uo'ing to

RE: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Patrick Dunford
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nic Wise Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 1999 11:52 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi Subject: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ Delphi 5 Professional upgrade - $480.00 Upgrade from which

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Nic Wise
Definatly 4, most likely 3. You should be able to cross grade if _nothing_ else. I'll ask Claire tommorow and post something. N Patrick Dunford wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nic Wise Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 1999

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Mark Derricutt
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Nic Wise wrote: Definatly 4, most likely 3. You should be able to cross grade if _nothing_ else. I have D2 Developer, would I have to crossgrade to D5, or could I upgrade? (not that I'm in any financial position at the moment to do either... but would be good to know).

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Tony Blomfield
] To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, 15 September 1999 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Nic Wise wrote: Definatly 4, most likely 3. You should be able to cross grade if _nothing_ else. I have D2 Developer, would I have

RE: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Patrick Dunford
I have D3 Standard, does that qualify? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nic Wise Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 1999 23:00 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ Definatly 4, most

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Nic Wise
developer = standard, right? No, its not upgradable. Only pro and c/s is. N Mark Derricutt wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Nic Wise wrote: Definatly 4, most likely 3. You should be able to cross grade if _nothing_ else. I have D2 Developer, would I have to crossgrade to D5, or could I

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Nic Wise
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nic Wise Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 1999 23:00 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ Definatly 4, most likely 3. You should be able to cross grade if _nothing_ else

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Tony Blomfield
of a price! Guesse I'l sit this one out. -Original Message- From: Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, 16 September 1999 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ Tony Blomfield wrote: What is current price

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Phil Scadden
Just someone mentoned adjusted prices and I wondered if perhaps the somewhat unrealistic 3.5K Upgrade price for some thing that apperntly has little new to offer, but supposedly addresses the bugs in D4. Considering that D4 is only one year old, its one hell of a price! Guesse I'l sit

RE: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Colin Fraser
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phil Scadden Sent: Thursday, 16 September 1999 8:52 am To: Multiple recipients of list DELphi Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ Just someone mentoned adjusted prices and I wondered if perhaps the somewhat unrealistic 3.5K Upgrade price

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread pdunford
Quoting Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nope. Standard is not upgradable - the full product is only $190, an upgrade would most likely be about $100, which is most likely getting close to the amount it costs to make the disc, manuals etc. No, what I meant was what is D5 *Pro* Upgrade an upgrade

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Nic Wise
Sorry - I replied first time last night. I have since asked Claire and posted it a few hours ago. You can upgrade to pro from pretty much any borland product - even the likes of Borland Pascal I think. So, its an upgrade from pretty much any borland product. Check with Claire (09-3600231 or

RE: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Nahum Wild
Nic Wise said: TeamSource (Enterprise edition) TeamSource is a new integrated workflow management tool. For more information, see TeamSrc.hlp in the Help directory. Note: TeamSource is a separate product and a separate installation, and is not provided with all versions of Delphi. It

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Aaron Scott-Boddendijk
Just someone mentoned adjusted prices and I wondered if perhaps the somewhat unrealistic 3.5K Upgrade price for some thing that apperntly has little new to offer, but supposedly addresses the bugs in D4. Considering that D4 is only one year old, its one hell of a price! Guesse I'l sit this

RE: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-15 Thread Phil Scadden
After using both D3 and D4 heavily, D3 is very poor by comparison - I hate (read avoid) using D3 and if I can will have the same file open in both D3/D4, doing the editing in D4 and compiling in D3. D4.03 in "my opinion" is much more productive (read save heaps of time) and easy to use -

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-14 Thread Nic Wise
I am a little suprised given that it has not been advertised no price has been given (why?) but then ADOExpress is something that has been on my others wish list for a while (finally its goodbye to the BDE! ). I guess lots of people knew about it. After comments here, Annie asked me and

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-14 Thread Neven MacEwan
]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ I'm told that pro and upgrade are downstairs in distro. Feel free to wait until the 20th if you want, but its THERE NOW. According to the EC system I'm writing/have written, there is anywhere from 5 to 50 items (depends on the SKU) available. ADO Express is out

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-14 Thread Neven MacEwan
: Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 1999 15:01 Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ I am a little suprised given that it has not been advertised no price has been given (why?) but then ADOExpress

Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ

1999-09-14 Thread Neven MacEwan
No it isn't - current delivery on Pro or Upgrade is 20th. ADOExpress 2 Weeks Regards Neven - Original Message - From: Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 1999 11:52 Subject: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ