Hi Mirek,
I and Jay agreed that the icons look much clearer without the candy-ish
fill, especially the T and the omega. Currently, the icons bold,
italic and underlined in master use the Gnome 2.20 style, with a rather
flat gradient and highlights. Here's a SVG comparing the different
Hi,
I could contribute an essay and a slideshow:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1SoIjRsaQikNEZBSVFnazZjR3M/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1SoIjRsaQikczVUZlNaeHU5YjA/edit?usp=sharing
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Hi,
I just wanted to say that in my opinion
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mlag9pa8ojovwwa/liboconf14logoproposal-swissflag.png
looks really slick and professional.
Cheers,
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Am 06.03.2014 10:58, schrieb Stefan Knorr:
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On 06/03/14 08:24,
Hi Mirek,
agree that the duplication of functionality is rather confusing.Did you
mean that the individual panes would appear as a pop-up like e.g. the
Insert table button already does?
The cell appearance btton would then open the panel in sucha a way:
Hi Charles,
The redesign looks really awesome :)
Some suggestions:
* The contrast between the captions and the images at the top could be
improved
* In my opinion, the Download now button looks better when not using a
bold font weight
* The green social network buttons at the bottom are a
Hi,
It's been a while since my last mail to this list, and I have to say that
the improvements to the start center and the new icon set are impressive.
Maybe you know about AppData (
http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/appdata/), a new format that
allows to present applications in software
I'll try to come up with one. Which resolution is needed?
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Something around 64px maybe. So that a regular LibO desktop icon would
fit into it, plus the award
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Hi Mirek,
sorry for not being able to attend the chat, next week I'll probably be
there.
Why wouldn't changed colors and logo be allowed? Isn't that kind of the
point of a rebranding?
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Yes, here it is:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/3/3a/AndyFitzsimon_ArtworkProposal_libre-office.svg
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I just got the confirmation by Andy that he relicenses his artwork as
LGPL v3/MPL
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Thanks, Steve :)
I mailed Andy Fitzsimon and asked whether he'd relicense it under
LGPL/MPL. How much time do we have until the branding is chosen?
@k-j: I guess we aren't, will fix that
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Added it to the wiki, including a start center design
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I changed the logo and added the progress bar:
http://s1.directupload.net/images/130113/62ufarwr.png
I'm trying to adapt this design for the start center
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Hi everyone,
on the Deviantart page of Harvey Cabaguio someone mentioned an old
design submission for the original LibreOffice brand:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/5/5f/AndyFitzsimon_ArtworkProposal_splashes.png
It also kind of fits the minimalist swiss style, maybe the
*employee
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Yes, that's what I thought, too
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Hi Sophie,
thanks for the info. I'll push a corrected version and some additional
icons today.
Do you know whether the new Tango icons will be included in the final
release? I guess I'd need to get some reviews in order to push
something to the 4.0
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I do agree to license the ones I created from scratch under LGPL and
CC-by-sa. Derivatives of the Gnome icons are licensed the same, of
course.
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Yeah, the website is a bit complicated. It should become easier in a
few months, when a new version of the template center will be deployed.
I think you need to open the page of your project and then add your
file.
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Hi everyone,
I've worked a bit on the shape icons, but there are still many left. I
would be great if we could split up the effort.
Is there a group of shape icons anybody would like to work on?
For consistency reasons, it would be good if the SVGs
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Hi Charles,
As far as I remember, he posted to the design mailing list quite some
time ago asking whether we would want to use it. I and Astron (IIRC)
replied that he should rather ask on the dev mailing list, since I did
not know whether it was some
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Maybe one with holly leafs and fruits?
Alex
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Ah, thanks for the update
Mirek, will you attend today's IRC meeting?
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Hi everyone,
the previews are a really nice feature I was hoping for already :)
My suggestion was to remove Default and add Title, Subtitle and
now I would also suggest to add Quotation to the list of default
styles. Maybe this is a discussion
Hi Regina,
the file should be ok. It's just that the canvas size is smaller than
the the three icons. If you download it and viewi t in Inkscape it
should display correctly. But I'll also upload a new version with
improved cnvas size later.
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Hi everyone,
I made some icons for the different levels in the XML hierarchy:
http://ubuntuone.com/4UeG3koY3OjFO63VvAR6Dz
Do you think they'll work?
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Hi everyone,
Can I push these changes: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/1094/ ?
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Hi,
We should now have parity with the Other Office Suite, but I have so far
not extended the selection to cover more sets.
Great :)
Would additional icon sets need to be mapped to the ones available in
MS Office when exporting to xlsx?
What I
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Hi everyone,
I added a new whiteboard:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Using_More_Popups
I guess we can discuss it on Saturday, but fortunately it's pretty
straightforward, so there's not a lot to be designed.
Cheers
Alex
H,
Now there there are master builds for Debian-derived systems, too:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/Linux-Fedora17-x86_64@4-gcc-4.7-dbgutil/master/current/
Might be interesting to see the results of some whiteboards :)
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On Ubuntu 12.04 based systems you'll need to install libjpeg62* via apt
and libpng15 from this site:
https://launchpad.net/~linaro-maintainers/+archive/overlay/+build/2941997
I still get some errors on startup, but it works
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Hi everyone,
from Friday on I'll probably have internet access again, so maybe we
could have an IRC meeting on Saturday.
Things that we might discuss
- - whether the improved color handling could be done for 3.7 and
whether to add Tango colors /
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Accidentally didn't send this to the ML
Hi Mirek,
I'd agree to use the lightest Tango blue, maybe with Tango Sky Blue 2
as border.
Should I ask on the dev mailing list whether it would be ok to append
the colors and gradient?
I guess the Vibrant
Hi Cedric,
I imagined something like that:
http://ubuntuone.com/2rHFMsY8bPzmYgTRO0pTkU
If one opens a file via CMIS, these two buttons would be shown and
allow checking a file in and cancelling the check-out. When creating a
new document or opening from a normal filesystem they would be
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Hi Mirek,
thanks for your feedback.
I worked on most of the issues and will continue doing so.
lc-outline icons, lc_incrementlevel, and lc_decrementlevel shouldn't
use navigation icons
What do you mean by 'navigation icons'?
- lc_autosum seems
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Hi everyone,
I committed some new icons, maybe you want to give some feedback.
I'd prefer to use white icons for the shapes of the drawing toolbar,
but these would be hard to recognize when using a bright theme or
windows. So what color should we
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Hi Cedric,
is it possible to show or hide single icons of a toolbar based on the
circumstances? Maybe these two operations could be added next to the
save button?
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Alex
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Hi Mirek, Sveinn,
unfortunately I don't have the IRC log, hopefully Astron still has it.
Anyway, I created the icon in Inkscape and I also watched that tutorial
some time back.
I knew that the Android guidelines recommended a tilted icon, but
Sounds great :) Do you know whether there's an equivalent for KDE, Mac
OS and Windows?
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Awesome news! First font embedding by Lubos and now this :)
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I uploaded my proposal, but I still have one question:
Should the whiteboard only cover downloading Fonts that are already being used
in a document or also searching for new fonts when creating a document?
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Hi everyone,
as discussed during the IRC I started working on the icon for the
remote control: http://ubuntuone.com/3MB2vxkuzrbgdnCwy0hyXx
I'll use the Impress icon to find out how that looks like
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Hi,
here are three different versions. I hope one of them is useful:
http://ubuntuone.com/1mJnKsiNeq5YKiNHBEDcSC
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Astron, I just saw your Mail on Nabble since it somehow didn't appear
in Thunderbird. Additionally I accidentally only replied to Charles
and omitted the ml.
Improved version: http://ubuntuone.com/3i7zMNEBJ5V7K4l5WbB6B7
Applied that design to an A4
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Posted one link twice, that's the correct one for the page deisgn:
http://ubuntuone.com/5W1PAdQLGENZpb0UBmKdCe
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Hi Sveinn,
sorry for the delay. Petr Mladek implemented a tango_testing icon theme
that's only enabled for dev builds:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/tango_testing
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I guess you should mail the developers mailing list, since the design
team doesn't deal with the underlying technology that much.
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Hi,
there are several things we did and plan to do.
First, the Windows-specific theme for LibreOffice (look of the toolbars
etc.) has been changed to make it fit better into a Metro environment.
The icon theme used on Mac OS has been changed to
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Hi Manas,
I think there's nothing preventing us from using pd artwork. Public
domain would also allow us to adapt icons.
We're currently importing Tango icons from the Gnome project, since
these are more up-to date and integrate better with current
Hi Mariano,
that definitely looks interesting. I have no idea whether it would be
feasible to rewrite the main windows, since AFAIK some custom stuff is
used for icon-theming, translating the UI etc. Maybe you could ask on
the developer mailing list how big this task would be.
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Hi,
I can't find the email with the phone number and the code anymore :/.
It would be great if someone could mail them to me
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I think currently noone on the design list is able to change the UI
code himself, so we would either need to find a dev willing to
implement some of the changes or wait until we can do it. There is an
ongoing effort to make the GUI description files
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Hi everyone,
Caolán posted to the dev ML
(http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/widget-layout-progress-td4002543.html)
that he's progressing on the task of converting the old GUI
description files to 'ui' Glade files.
Michael suggested that if the
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Added some more icons:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Image18065.png
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Strange, the icons are all aligned to the pixel grid where possible, so
they should be sharp.
What might be relevant is that this isn't an actual screenshot. I took
a screenshot and used it in Inkscape. There I hid the old icons with
rectangles colored like the background and then exported the
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Hi everyone,
since Chu posted the proposal for a minimal navigator, I took a stab
at the very outdated looking icons:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/ff/Image18065.png
Additionally, I created new icons for spellcheck, auto-spellcheck,
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Thanks for your feedback, Sveinn
The icons you found to be rather dark are part of the stock Gnome icon
set and I'd personally like to keep them for consistency's sake. Also
the icons regarding formatting are black, so that the other ones don't
stand
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Hi Michel,
thanks for the link. I vaguely remebered that there had been done some
work, but I couldn't recall the details.
I'll try to merge the ideas in both proposals
Alex
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Hi again,
I've got one question:
How did you re-add the 'Picture from scan' menu entry? I can't find it
in the customize dialog.
@all:
One thing I'd personally like to see being added is the 'Title Page...'
item that's currently part of the
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I think one issue that hasn't been tackled for a long time are the
menu entries, which can at times be a bit confusing or are at least
not very intuitive to use. I started adapting Writer's Insert menu to
the way I use it. I grouped the
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Yes, I know. That's how I did it, too. Thanks anyways
Alex
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Hi,
It looks pretty good, but I never really used it (because of the
'intimidating' UI). Would you show only headings by default and omit
tables ect.?
Some new icons might make it a bit more attractive, too.
Alex
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Hi,
that sounds great, I'lll take a look at it tomorrow.
Do we have a figure of how many new fonts could be included? Will old
ones be removed?
Kind Regards
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Hi everyone,
Björn just opened this bug about the very outdated looking gallery
art: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53248
I assume we could be done with fixing this rather quickly and I think
we should create artwork that either
Hi Klaus-Jürgen,
I agree that we should get rid of the galleries we have right now. But
I imagine that stuff people might use are the bullet points and maybe
rulers. We already have dialogs dedicated to each, so if that's all we
want to ship we could drop the gallery for good. Or do
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Hi Charles, Mirek
Regarding flickr etc. integration: I see two problems with this:
1) How likely is it that a user finds a picture in flickr if the
alternative is simply googling and having the whole web as a resource?
2) Licensing: Would we simply
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One aspect we should keep in mind would be the about:config
functionality that was proposed for this GSoC
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Hi,
yes, we're working on an improved way to manage colors, gradients etc.
What do you think regarding the other options? I also discovered an
issue when using a gradient in a pie chart - the edge becomes very
jagged, do you know to whom we could
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Hi,
I was wondering what would be worth mentioning?
- - Plan to license artwork under CC-BY-SA if possible
- - Work on icons for the template picker
- - Mirek's work on global options
- - The typography meeting in London
Anything else?
Alex
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Hi Astron,
Should I attend this week's call and then every other week? Mirek will
be absent for a few weeks
Alex
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Hi everyone,
I played a bit with diagrams and I think it would be an improvement if
we disabled rounded edges by default, change the chart colors to be
more uniform and maybe enable perspective rendering.
Here's an example: http://ubuntuone.com/0EAkIYmqoUWv4iNXkShZBb
Sadly, the lines on the
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Hi everyone,
I'll be on vacation for the next one or two weeks. I hope this doesn't
matter too much,
Cheers
Alex
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Hi,
Mirek, did you already start a whiteboard? I could find anything yet.
Alex
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Hi everyone,
Jan (Kendy) suggested that we should try to find some developers who
are willing to work closely with the designteam in order to get
whiteboards turned into code faster than it's currently the case.
We plan to post something on our G+
Hi everyone,
would anyone object against Cedric including this as new default (empty)
template:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Avantgarde.ott
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Hi everyone,
Thanks Bjoern for uploading the files :)
I tried to fix BrightBlue, to me it seems OK now. We still have some
masterpages supplied by the community (cc0) and Mirek wanted to let the
design list vote on them first, if there's still enough time to
integrate them at all:
Hi Cedric, *
since this week's feature freeze I wanted to ask you whether you had
enough time to implement loading styles from a document.
If that's the case, I would want to ask everyone if they would be OK
with the styles used in this document:
I think I could attend on sunday
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Hi Mirek,
here's the SVG
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/04/Templatefolder.svg
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Here's the summary:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/minutes-of-ESC-call-td3987332.html
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Hi,
actually, the save icon in the top toolbar should be enough, don't you
think? It's greyed out if there's nothing to save and makes the
indicator superfluous.
Here's the mock-up for the tabs:
http://ubuntuone.com/17sc4d1D91HWnZUaQdqMSF
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Hi Jan,
thanks for your efforts :)
Do you think you could make the tabs look like normal gtk+ tabs and let
them adapt to the theme?
Additionally, I'm wondering whether you could remove the indicator in
the status bar that shows whether a document has been changed since the
last time it was
Hi Michel,
That looks really good.
Do you think you could get in contact with a developer?
Alex
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Hi,
I quickly converted it in Inkscape, hope that's enough:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_external_logo.eps
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Hi Mirek,
the design looks very native, that's nice. But why do you display the
online templates folder not the same as the favorites folder or vice
versa?
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Hi everyone,
I updated the whiteboard:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Impress_remote#Tentative_Design
If everyone is fine with that I'd commment out the Proposals etc.
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Hi,
updated another whiteboard.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/File_Manager#Tentative_Design
Can I comment out the proposals?
Alex
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Hi Andrew,
I'm Alex, not Mirek :)
1) During the last IRC meeting we decided that I'd do the tentative
design for both whiteboards, which combines the proposals and will
later be used during the development. I think Mirek is working on the
template picker.
2) Good
3)Currently 'Selection
I updated the design accordingly
Alex
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Hi Mirek,
these suggestions sound reasonable. I integrated them, if anybody has
another opinion, please mention it.
These things might be useful somehow in the future -- that's
why we even keep an archive of finished whiteboards.
We could still access the proposals after removing the !--
Hi everyone,
we now have a Google+ page which is probably going to be used to
announce some of our designs or ask for user input. Facebook basically
says 'piss off if you don't have an account' and Twitter might make it
harder to follow a conversation between several people. I didn't find a
Thanks for giving a heads up. Nice to see so much progress :)
Since feature freeze is in roughly 3 weeks, some of the upcoming
improvements (document themes, templates dialog) won't make it into
3.6, right?
If we get a quick response from Jakub, will we be able to replace some
old icons?
If we get a quick response from Jakub, will we be able to replace some
old icons?
Before the feature freeze, I mean
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Hi all,
I added two designs to the wiki page
Regards
Alex
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Nice to have some input from such a big user group.
I agree, themes/styles/color, font schemes are really useful. I think
the way MS Office displays these is very convenient, but we currently
lack the option to style tables.
An odf file contains a style.xml file, could that be used to store
I'd prefer to meet earlier on saturday
Alex
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Hi again,
Here's a mockup I made in Glade using the default Gnome icons:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Screenshot_from_2012-05-02_13-23-36.png
IMHO, thats a huge improvement over the current situation, since the
GUI would look more modern on all platforms and especially well
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