Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Our icon style

2014-11-15 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Alex, 2014-11-15 16:31 GMT+01:00 Alexander Wilms f.alexander.wi...@gmail.com: Hi Mirek, I and Jay agreed that the icons look mu ch clearer without the candy-ish fill, especially the T and the omega. Currently, the icons bold, italic and underlined in master use the Gnome 2.20 style, with

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Our icon style

2014-11-15 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Jay, 2014-11-15 20:52 GMT+01:00 Jay Philips ypha...@gmail.com: Hi Mirek and Alex, On 11/15/2014 07:31 PM, Alexander Wilms wrote: Hi Mirek, I and Jay agreed that the icons look much clearer without the candy-ish fill, especially the T and the omega. Currently, the icons bold,

[libreoffice-design] Social networks

2014-11-14 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, We have a few social network accounts that represent our team -- on Twitter, Google Plus, and Diaspora. They haven't been very active in general -- would someone here be willing to run them? If not (if nobody replies within two weeks), I'll get rid of them and leave design-related

[libreoffice-design] Our icon style

2014-11-14 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, I just took a look at the changes at text.svg and I'm not thrilled about the changes. The Tango style that was once there is now partially gone -- the whole set is inconsistent, with some flat elements and some elements with gradients, many icons taking up 24x24 instead of the prescribed

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2014-10-15

2014-10-26 Thread Mirek M.
2014-10-22 17:09 GMT+02:00 K-J LibreOffice k...@libreoffice.org: IMHO we should not leave it completely: Bugzilla is mainly used for UX but not for VI-marketing stuff (badges, logos, flyers etc.). We should discuss and announce on ml. We should cancel the Forum and the Wiki but not the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2014-10-15

2014-10-17 Thread Mirek M.
Perhaps we might want to reevaluate our use of Redmine altogether? Forums are nice because they allow attachments, but it seems that no firm decision has been reached with regards to letting go of the mailing list, and it's clearly still being used (as evidenced by this thread, which is on the ML

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Color Picker

2014-10-01 Thread Mirek M.
Hi, I agree there are some problems, at least judging from the screenshots. If you could report some bug reports, that'd be awesome! :) BTW, the tentative design is here: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/586 . 2014-09-30 19:06 GMT+02:00 Hillar Liiv liivhil...@gmail.com: Hello! I

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improved Sifr icons / SVG sources

2014-09-25 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Kendy, Sorry for being unresponsive lately -- I really didn't have time. It's a plan to move the Sifr icons (which, right now, are all over the place -- GitHub doesn't contain all the icons, apparently) to the same icon sheets that Tango uses. I'll get on that as soon as I have time, or as

Re: [libreoffice-design] IMPORTANT: Changing our workflow

2014-09-05 Thread Mirek M.
Hi JBF, 2014-09-04 14:24 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Faure jbfa...@libreoffice.org: Le 04/09/2014 10:56, Mirek M. a écrit : [...] We don't want to forward things to the mailing list, though, because we want the conversations to happen in one place and don't want people to reply on the list

Re: [libreoffice-design] IMPORTANT: Changing our workflow

2014-09-04 Thread Mirek M.
Hi, 2014-09-04 9:53 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Faure jbfa...@libreoffice.org: Hi, Le 28/07/2014 23:11, Mirek M. a écrit : Hi guys, On our last IRC chat [1], we've decided to try out a different way of working for a month, until the next chat. One of the major changes we've decided

[libreoffice-design] IMPORTANT: Changing our workflow

2014-07-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, On our last IRC chat [1], we've decided to try out a different way of working for a month, until the next chat. One of the major changes we've decided on is to abandon this mailing list (as a trial) and move our conversations to Redmine. Redmine is easier to look through than our mailing

Fwd: [libreoffice-design] Our decision-making workflow

2014-07-27 Thread Mirek M.
to keep the number of places to track to a minimum. 2014-07-09 13:43 GMT+02:00 K-J LibreOffice k...@libreoffice.org: Hi Mirek, Am 09.07.2014 00:42, schrieb Mirek M.: 2014-07-08 8:21 GMT+02:00 K-J LibreOffice k...@libreoffice.org: Am 08.07.2014 01:25, schrieb Mirek M.: I hate Bugzilla and I'd

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Revisiting our project workflow

2014-07-23 Thread Mirek M.
I agree that a forum is probably more fitting for design discussions (especially if it allows attachments), provides more privacy (your e-mail address isn't pubilc), and I have to admit I would've been more comfortable with a forum when I first joined the mailing list. That said, we shouldn't

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Revisiting our project workflow

2014-07-08 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Stuart, Pedro, 2014-07-08 14:18 GMT+02:00 V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu: Mirek, *, Regards para 1): why would there need to be a developer already in agreement to start the process? It would be nice if one, or more, were already on board, but much of the argument for

Re: [libreoffice-design] Our decision-making workflow

2014-07-08 Thread Mirek M.
2014-07-08 8:21 GMT+02:00 K-J LibreOffice k...@libreoffice.org: Hi Mirek, Am 08.07.2014 01:25, schrieb Mirek M.: Hi guys, One of the things we badly need is a good decision-making workflow. We've discussed this on the last IRC chat [1] and that lead to my rough draft: 1) A problem

Re: [libreoffice-design] Finding a Purpose

2014-07-08 Thread Mirek M.
, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello Mirek, On 3 juillet 2014 00:43:19 CEST, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Recently, we've been talking about our workflow and, as part of that, we came to the conclusion that we need to define

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Revisiting our project workflow

2014-07-08 Thread Mirek M.
for this purpose -- Glitter Gallery [2]. I'm not sure if it's in a usable state, though. So... GitHub for now? [1] https://github.com/gnome-design-team/ [2] https://github.com/glittergallery/GlitterGallery On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stuart, Pedro, 2014

[libreoffice-design] Our decision-making workflow

2014-07-07 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, One of the things we badly need is a good decision-making workflow. We've discussed this on the last IRC chat [1] and that lead to my rough draft: 1) A problem is presented, either on the ux-advise mailing list or on the design list. Feedback and possible solutions are collected on the

[libreoffice-design] Revisiting our project workflow

2014-07-07 Thread Mirek M.
Another topic we've touched on at the last IRC chat [1] is our project workflow. We've decided that it'd be better if each project had a lead designer, who would take it up to the tentative design phase in cooperation with the dev who would later work on the project's implementation. The process

[libreoffice-design] Finding a Purpose

2014-07-02 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone, Recently, we've been talking about our workflow and, as part of that, we came to the conclusion that we need to define a clear direction. The best way to do that, IMHO, is defining a clear purpose for LibreOffice and its components and continually striving to fulfill that purpose as

[libreoffice-design] Team organization

2014-06-19 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, Sorry for my lack of involvement lately, I've been very busy. I've been thinking about our team lately and I'd really like to rethink the way we work. I feel like we don't have the basics down, and that's a gigantic issue that also reflects on our work. Part of the problem is that the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Team organization

2014-06-19 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Sophie, 2014-06-19 15:15 GMT+02:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com: Hi Mirek, Le 19/06/2014 14:48, Mirek M. a écrit : Hi guys, Sorry for my lack of involvement lately, I've been very busy. I've been thinking about our team lately and I'd really like to rethink the way we work. I

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Light Blue for Non-printing characters

2014-06-16 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, To those pushing for a certain color -- could you please suggest that ONE color on this list before tomorrow? As iterated above, it shouldn't be gray or in the LibO color palette for best possible contrast. I'll ask our Google+ community to test the few suggested colors and pick out the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Light Blue for Non-printing characters

2014-06-04 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, So, here's the situation: This feature was coded as part of the UX Hackfest that took place after FOSDEM. The dev behind it hard-coded it, thinking that if he had time, he would tweak it so that the color would change based on what background it's on. He didn't have time, so the color

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat this Sunday

2014-05-22 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, IRC chats are now monthly, taking place on the last Sunday of every month, and this Sunday (May 25) happens to be the last Sunday in May. After two months of silence, we are finally having another chat, so be sure to come. 12:00 UTC as usual -- more information at

[libreoffice-design] Re: IRC chats

2014-04-25 Thread Mirek M.
organize this Sunday's chat. [1] Something like http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg06457.html will suffice. 2014-04-12 14:13 GMT+02:00 Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com: Hi guys, I'm sorry that I haven't been active lately -- I'm generally short on time now. Since I'm generally short

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2014-03-13 Thread Mirek M.
We're having an IRC chat this Sunday at 12:00 UTC. More info at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings . Everyone's welcome, even passive watchers. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-design] Document examples

2014-03-13 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone, If you've ever used LibreOffice to produce something that looks good, it'd be great if you could submit it so that we could use it in screenshots. And if you haven't, it'd be awesome if you could make something now. :) Post your submissions anywhere -- you're welcome to use the TDF

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat -- no time

2014-03-08 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, I'm really, really sorry that I have to skip the IRC meeting again -- I'm absolutely swamped. I hope you can chat without me. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting

Re: [libreoffice-design] Tasks for UX testing?

2014-03-04 Thread Mirek M.
Just a small note: It'd be great if you could test LibreOffice with its new icons (https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/8192/). 2014-03-03 8:11 GMT+01:00 Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com: [I don't think I'm subscribed to design@, so please Reply-All] Hi, We've been invited to

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat -- canceled

2014-02-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, Unfortunately, it seems like neither me nor Astron can make it to the chat this week, so, given the general low attendance, let's cancel it this week. You're welcome to chime in with topics for next week, though. :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org

Re: [libreoffice-design] getting larger set of colors that the standard that comes with LO

2014-02-27 Thread Mirek M.
I definitely agree. However, the problem is that we don't have a developer to work on this. We've been trying to get custom colors for ages. If you know a dev that would be interested, let me know. :) 2014-02-27 20:00 GMT+01:00 Paul D. Mirowsky p_mirow...@bentaxna.com: Hello There was a

[libreoffice-design] IRC Chat 2014-02-23

2014-02-22 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, As every week, we'll have an IRC chat tomorrow. More info at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings. Everyone's welcome. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

[libreoffice-design] IRC Chat 02-09-2014

2014-02-08 Thread Mirek M.
We'll have an IRC chat this Sunday at 12:00 UTC. More info at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings . Topics to discuss: - Options - Icons Feel free to add topics... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: The Sidebar Problem

2014-02-07 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, I feel like the conversation has shifted to styles vs. direct formatting, which really isn't the crux of the sidebar problem. (BTW, the Properties pane of the sidebar is very likely to feature styles in the future.) Here are the relevant parts of Microsoft's task pane blog post [1] that

[libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-01-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, Ever since we've adopted the sidebar, we've had issues with duplicate panels [1]. Worse yet, the sidebar brings yet another UI element to look through for commands. This might not sound like a big problem, but this makes our already hard to use UI even harder to use, and is bound to get

Re: [libreoffice-design] The Sidebar Problem

2014-01-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Alex, 2014-01-28 Alexander Wilms f.alexander.wi...@gmail.com Hi Mirek, agree that the duplication of functionality is rather confusing.Did you mean that the individual panes would appear as a pop-up like e.g. the Insert table button already does? The cell appearance btton would then

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: The purpose of Impress

2014-01-22 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Marc, 2014/1/19 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com Hi Mirek, Le 2014-01-19 08:45, Mirek M. a écrit : Hi guys, In order to be able to effectively design and shape the future of LibreOffice modules, it is imperative that we define what these modules are for. Knowing the purpose of each

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: The purpose of Impress

2014-01-22 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Owen, 2014/1/22 Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com mirek2 wrote My rough draft: The purpose of Impress is to make it simple and quick to craft a slide show to perfectly complement a speech. Please comment on this. Hi Mirek, I always think of the ancient Greek and Roman forum and the

[libreoffice-design] The purpose of Impress

2014-01-19 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, In order to be able to effectively design and shape the future of LibreOffice modules, it is imperative that we define what these modules are for. Knowing the purpose of each module will help us focus on doing one thing well and avoid counterproductive feature creep. Since, out of all

Re: [libreoffice-design] The purpose of Impress

2014-01-19 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Regina, 2014/1/19 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Mirek, Mirek M. schrieb: Hi guys, In order to be able to effectively design and shape the future of LibreOffice modules, it is imperative that we define what these modules are for. Knowing the purpose of each module

Re: [libreoffice-design] The purpose of Impress

2014-01-19 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Regina, 2014/1/19 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Mirek, Mirek M. schrieb: Hi Regina, 2014/1/19 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Mirek, Mirek M. schrieb: Hi guys, In order to be able to effectively design and shape the future of LibreOffice modules

Re: [libreoffice-design] The purpose of Impress

2014-01-19 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Charles, 2014/1/19 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org Hello Regina, Le Sun, 19 Jan 2014 17:43:45 +0100, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de a écrit : Hi Mirek, Mirek M. schrieb: Hi Regina, 2014/1/19 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi

Re: [libreoffice-design] The purpose of Impress

2014-01-19 Thread Mirek M.
2014/1/19 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Mirek, Mirek M. schrieb: Hi Regina, 2014/1/19 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Mirek, Mirek M. schrieb: Hi Regina, 2014/1/19 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Mirek, Mirek M. schrieb: Hi guys

[libreoffice-design] IRC Chat 2014-01-19

2014-01-17 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, After a two-week break, we're having our IRC chat again. Details at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings . If you'd like to see a topic discussed, be sure to mention it in a reply. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-design] Proposition for default theme

2014-01-13 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Mateuz, Our philosophy is that, for the most part, native is best. If you think that theme looks ugly, change your desktop theme. :) Of course, desktop theme integration isn't perfect, and there's still ways to go there. In comparison, though, Mozilla theming is much more primitive, only

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat 2014-12-05

2014-01-01 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, Unfortunately, I can't make it to the chat this weekend, but I hope you'll do it without me anyway. The chat is on Sunday at 12 UTC on the #libreoffice-design channel at freenode; more info at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings. If you can't make it to the chat but

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat 2013-12-29

2013-12-27 Thread Mirek M.
As every week, we'll have an IRC chat this weekend at 12:00 UTC on the #libreoffice-design channel on freenode. More info at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings . Everyone's welcome. If you can't make it, but would like to see a topic discussed, send it in a reply. -- To

[libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center Niggles

2013-12-27 Thread Mirek M.
label. As for the border around module icons, would it be possible to a) use a different aspect ratio for presentations, b) use a dotted outline instead of a full one, to differentiate previews and non-previews? 2013/12/13 Jan Holesovsky ke...@collabora.com Hi Mirek, all, Mirek M. píše v St

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center Niggles

2013-12-27 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Cor, Pedro, 2013/12/24 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl Pedro wrote (14-12-13 10:12) Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote - Thumbnails I considerably increased their size, and improved their drawing algorithm to antialias the pictures. Also for the files that have no thumbnail, I made it look

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center Niggles

2013-12-27 Thread Mirek M.
2013/12/27 Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com Hi Cor, Pedro, 2013/12/24 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl Pedro wrote (14-12-13 10:12) Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote - Thumbnails I considerably increased their size, and improved their drawing algorithm to antialias the pictures. Also for the files

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center Niggles

2013-12-27 Thread Mirek M.
this one), though, I wouldn't mind it if the previews were limited to 180x180 instead of the current 256x256. 2013/12/27 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos fitosch...@gmail.com On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: * At smaller sizes, the thumbnails are much harder to make out

[libreoffice-design] IRC Chat 2013-12-22

2013-12-21 Thread Mirek M.
As usual, we're having a chat this Sunday at 12:00 UTC. More info at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings . Everyone's welcome. If you can't make it, but would like to see a topic discussed, send it in a reply. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-design] New libreoffice icons

2013-12-20 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Piotr, Could you upload your designs somewhere? This mailing list doesn't allow attachments. Thanks. 2013/12/20 Piotr Podwysocki piotr.podwyso...@softnet.com.pl Hello. I made some new, initial icons for the LibreOffice product and I want to know what do you think about them. Will you be

[libreoffice-design] Non-native theming

2013-12-15 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, I'd love to have some guidelines on non-native theming -- please take a look at my proposal at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Mirek2#Non-native_Theming and tell me what you think. I'd like to have a final decision next week at the IRC chat [1], so please reply to this thread

[libreoffice-design] IRC Chat 2013-12-15

2013-12-14 Thread Mirek M.
Just like every week, we're having a chat this Sunday at 12:00 UTC -- more info at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings . Everyone's welcome. Topics to cover: * Guidelines Feel free to add your own in a reply to this message. If there's nothing else to talk about: * Writer, Calc,

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-13 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Michel, 2013/12/13 Michel Renon michel.re...@free.fr Hi, Le 06/12/2013 19:39, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello Michel, [...] Indeed. I find you quite shy in fact, and I'm serious. To me it does not look like you were ignored, rather that no one knows about it. Which is a problem

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-11 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Michel, Sorry for taking so long to respond -- I had a really busy week. 2013/12/6 Michel Renon michel.re...@free.fr Hi Mirek, Le 27/10/2013 02:04, Mirek M. a écrit : Hi Michel, This is a meritocracy -- if you're not happy with something, you're welcome to swoop in and change

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-12-11 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Rofolfo, 2013/12/6 Rodolfo rodolf...@gmail.com Hi, Michel. I just want to say that I'd be glad to help on implementation of the Color picker once its design is done. Wonderful. Given that the GSoC project didn't come through and that there's still uncertainty as to whether themes will

[libreoffice-design] Minimum Window Size

2013-12-11 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, I'd like to have some guidelines on window size in our HIG. From a quick search, I can see Windows guidelines have this to say on the topic [1]: Set a minimum window size if there is a size below which the content is no longer usable. For resizable controls, set minimum resizable element

[libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center Niggles

2013-12-04 Thread Mirek M.
2013/12/4 Jan Holesovsky ke...@collabora.com Hi Mirek, Mirek M. píše v Čt 28. 11. 2013 v 22:01 +0100: Please wait with the text until after this week's IRC chat, where we should finally reach consensus on all the controversial topics -- including button labels and the welcome text

[libreoffice-design] Start Center Color Coding

2013-12-04 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, We agreed on the IRC chat [1] that it'd be best if we kept thumbnails, but used some form of color coding or possibly badging to differentiate them by file type. If you have an idea of what that could look like, please propose it at

Re: [libreoffice-design] Controversial topics for the start center

2013-11-27 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Michel, 2013/11/26 mfrai...@free.fr Why I get impression that this Start Center is one step ahead and two steps back? True In my opinion: + there should be Open and Templates icons. Without them, options are invisible (dead zone for eyes) + there should be Location address bar. +

[libreoffice-design] Start Center Niggles

2013-11-27 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, The Start Center is a hot topic right now, I thought I'd chime in with my few cents. Kendy, sorry for asking you to do more work, I know you're busy. If you decide to just keep the center as is for now, that's fine. Also, sorry if I made it seem like Astron's mockup was a final draft: we

[libreoffice-design] IRC Chat

2013-11-27 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, Though it wasn't the intent, it feels like I've become the de facto moderator of IRC chats. Given that I can't always attend, I'd really like it if the chat didn't depend on me. So: * If you're at the chat, please don't wait for me to come to start a discussion. * As for topics to

[libreoffice-design] IRC Chat 2013-12-01

2013-11-27 Thread Mirek M.
Topics for the chat: * Controversial problems in the Start Center [1] If there's nothing else to talk about: * Categorize Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw, and Math Options. (We should really get going on these.) [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Start_Center [2]

[libreoffice-design] Report UX Bugs!

2013-11-27 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, The upcoming UX Hackfest [1] will be a unique opportunity to get UX bugs fixed, so please report all the UX bugs you can find. The guidelines for how to do that are on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design . Please give feedback on those (in this thread) -- they're a first version.

Re: [libreoffice-design] Adding Mittaphap / Droid Sans / Khmer OS Fonts to LibreOffice for Lao, Thai, and Khmer Support

2013-11-27 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Robert, We discussed fonts not too long ago [1]. We decided against Droid Sans, as it doesn't offer an Italic variant. I don't think we could offer Khmer, as the MPL, which LibreOffice is licensed under, is more permissive than the LGPL. I'm not sure, though. As for Mittaphap, I haven't heard

Re: [libreoffice-design] Start Center Niggles

2013-11-27 Thread Mirek M.
2013/11/27 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos f...@libreoffice.org On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: * The Create label should be clearly set apart from clickable buttons. I suggest making it uppercase and bold. I disagree with this one. I hate SCREAMING in UIs

[libreoffice-design] Our First UX Hackfest

2013-11-20 Thread Mirek M.
I'm happy to announce that we'll be having our first UX Hackfest right after FOSDEM, thanks to the generous support of our friends at Betacowork: http://www.betacowork.com/ -- give them a shout out if you can! Read more at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2014, with more

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-11-09 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me either. Even after adding extras/source/glade, Glade tells me that it can't find the LibreOffice catalog, then starts loading StartCenter.ui, but crashes at 7%. :( BTW, for those trying to find this folder in Program Files, I don't think you'll be

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-30 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, It'd be great if we could discuss this on the IRC chat this Sunday at 12:00 UTC and reach a final destination -- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings. If not, please comment here on specific parts of the proposals and reasons why they are desirable/undesirable. Note that

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2013-10-26 Thread Mirek M.
We're having an IRC chat today at 12:00 UTC. More information at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings Everyone's welcome. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-26 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Michel, This is a meritocracy -- if you're not happy with something, you're welcome to swoop in and change it. :) (Of course, the community also has to accept those changes.) If you'd like to do user studies, please be my guest. Right now, designs are based on heuristics [1], guidelines [2],

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-24 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Kendy, Sorry for the late reply. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote: Hi Mirek, Mirek M. píše v Ne 13. 10. 2013 v 18:05 +0200: Oh, when I noticed Kendy's mail I thought about something more like that: https://wiki.** documentfoundation.org/File

Re: [libreoffice-design] Default Writer Template

2013-10-19 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Ahmad, Sorry for the late reply. So, my comments: I'd still like Headings to be Sans and the text Serif, or vice versa. I'm not alone in this idea -- using a different font for headings and for body text is a common practice. There are websites dedicated to font pairings, and the use of these

Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-13 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: Hi Mirek, Kendy, Am 11.10.2013 18:54, schrieb Mirek M.: I imagine we could just go with something simple likehttps://github.com/gnome-**design-team/gnome-mockups/raw/** master/documents

[libreoffice-design] IRC Chat

2013-10-12 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, As every week, there will be a chat today at 16:00 UTC. Read more at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings . Everyone's welcome, even just to listen in. If nobody shows up, we'll have a chat tomorrow at 13:00 UTC. (I'll add a post to this thread if that happens.) Also, if

[libreoffice-design] Re: UX bug process

2013-10-12 Thread Mirek M.
It's official then: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I'd really like to get the process passed as official, put it on our wiki page, and encourage people to report UX bugs. Since none of you replied

[libreoffice-design] Re: IRC Chat

2013-10-12 Thread Mirek M.
I had a chat today with medieval, log at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings/2013-10-12. No meeting tomorrow unless some of you would really like to talk. On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, As every week, there will be a chat today at 16

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improved Smiley Face

2013-10-08 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Ahmad, It's definitely better! The eyes seem a bit too stretched out for me, though -- could you go for a middle ground between the old and the new eyes? On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Ahmad Hussein Al-Harthi aalhar...@kacst.edu.sa wrote: Hi, I've pushed today a new Smiley face shape,

Re: [libreoffice-design] Design team needs more people!?

2013-10-06 Thread Mirek M.
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Dear Ahmad, Indeed, the design team is not very big, and we're always interested in getting new contributors. If Mirek and the team here feel like it I can ask the infra to open a blog for you.

Re: [libreoffice-design] Default Writer Template

2013-10-03 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Samuel, On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@gmail.comwrote: I like it that you use a sans-serif font now. Are there any other options but Liberation Sans? I guess the choice is very limited because we need to support many languages. My personal preferences are

Re: [libreoffice-design] HIG

2013-09-29 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Adolfo, On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos f...@libreoffice.org wrote: Mirek wrote: Could we please use elementary's HIG [1], which has the GNOME HIG as back-up, as our go-to HIG from now on? In your opinion, what are the main benefits that this change may bring

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2013-09-28 Thread Mirek M.
As every week, there will be a chat today at 16:00 UTC on the #libreoffice-design channel on freenode. See https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings for more info. Everyone's welcome. :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat timing

2013-09-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, I've heard from a few people here that Saturday isn't ideal for them. If you'd like to attend an IRC chat in the future, even if you're not a contributor, please fill in the times that you'd be avalable in this doodle poll: http://www.doodle.com/my7k6ymvhx83fqw7 (Make sure your time zone

[libreoffice-design] Re: UX bug process

2013-09-28 Thread Mirek M.
as official. (It will, of course, still be modifiable afterwards, but not as easily.) On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I'd like there to be a clear step-by-step guide on how to report UX bugs. Unfortunately, I don't really know how to report these bugs

[libreoffice-design] HIG

2013-09-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, We've been using the GNOME HIG to guide our decisions where following each platform's own HIG is impossible. However, the GNOME 2 HIG is somewhat outdated now and the GNOME 3 HIG is unfinished. Could we please use elementary's HIG [1], which has the GNOME HIG as back-up, as our go-to HIG

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2013-09-19 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone, Yet again, I won't be able to attend the IRC chat this week. Would you be up for moving it to Sunday? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more:

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2013-09-13 Thread Mirek M.
There will be an IRC chat this Saturday at 16:00 UTC on the #libreoffice-design channel on freenode [1]. Topics for discussion may include: * Options * GSoC projects * Icons Feel free to propose your own topics. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings -- To unsubscribe e-mail

[libreoffice-design] Re: IRC chat

2013-09-13 Thread Mirek M.
This is embarassing, but it appears that I can't attend tomorrow after all. I'll be on the chat on Sunday at 16:00 UTC, so feel free to come then. :) On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: There will be an IRC chat this Saturday at 16:00 UTC on the #libreoffice

Re: [libreoffice-design] Default LO Style

2013-09-13 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Ahmad, Because the ESC call minutes mentioned a new template, I went ahead and searched by inbox for any e-mails about it, and here it turns out that I read this one, but forgot to reply. So, sorry for the late reply: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Ahmad Hussein Al-Harthi

[libreoffice-design] UX bug process

2013-09-11 Thread Mirek M.
Hi guys, I'd like there to be a clear step-by-step guide on how to report UX bugs. Unfortunately, I don't really know how to report these bugs myself, so I'd like to work with all of you to devise a clear process. Fabiana Simoes lays out the ground rules in her How to not report your UX bug GUADEC

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2013-09-05 Thread Mirek M.
Sorry guys, but it looks like I won't be able to host the chat [1] this week. Is anyone here up to the task? Also, if you plan on attending, please say so in a reply so that people can judge whether having a meeting makes sense at all. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings --

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2013-08-30 Thread Mirek M.
As every week, there will be an IRC chat today at 16:00 UTC. More info at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings. Everyone's welcome. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-design] Sectional Navigation suggestion

2013-08-27 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Jonathon, On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Jonathon Waterman peedyswo...@gmail.comwrote: To whom it may concern: Please forgive me if this is the incorrect place to do this, but I could not locate anything in the Libreoffice website where a suggestion could be submitted. Tom, in the

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2013-08-22 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone, I won't be able to attend this week's IRC chat. Will anyone else be there? (If nobody responds, I'll consider it cancelled.) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

Re: [libreoffice-design] Musings on designers and FOSS projects

2013-08-17 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Charles, On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello, This is just some thoughts of mine, I hope they will prove helpful: http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2013/08/04/designers/ Could you point out which designers we

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2013-08-16 Thread Mirek M.
As every week, there will be an IRC chat tomorrow at 16:00 UTC. More details at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings. Hope to see you there. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-design] Icon export

2013-08-10 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Oskar, Since you have programming skills and a drive to make icons better, I was wondering if you might be able to create a script for batch exporting our Tango testing icons. The icons are currently designed inside SVGs by icon type: there's an SVG for shape icons [1] and there'll be more like

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